Still, if Robin is the only one that can read those, why isn't every single pirate , yonkous, marines hunting down Robin as we speak? Even her bounty looks like candy money compared to what she can reveal.
Chapter 818: In The Whale
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- Why Kaidou not simply beats the shit out of Buggy to get informations… Or Buggy knows jackshit. Kaidou for sure wouldn#t go after Shanks or Rayleigh easily.
- How Kaidou learned about This Wano stuff after all. Not even the WG seems to know it… Who told him? The Shogun or even Shanks back at the meeting before the war?
- How is Ohara tied to this all? Or even more the story about Olivia and her husband? Have they been on Roger's ship as well?
- Why do you need 4 of them… Actually with 2 it should be possible as well to find Raftel with looking at the map
- How are Rayleigh and Co reacting to the fact that their former crewmate has been killed by Kaidou and the Shogun? Do they don't give a fuck?
- Was the guy in the cover story with Crocus really Oden? If yes… How is it possible in such a short timeline for him sailing from Wano to Crocus and back and still being killed?
- Where is Scopper Gaban?
- Why all the years before no one of the big shots as Kaidou has been after Robin?
- With Oden being a former nakama… do you think we will get someone from Wano as well? What Oden's role have been. Was he swordsman? If yes, I think it is clear to say he wasn't Rayleigh level.
have much more but that's it for now… But goddman... AWESOME chapter
Zou arc is absolutely without a doubt the best arc since the TS
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Damn, there are so many ways how Luffy can screw up the Mission "Copying BM's poneglyph":
-he can simply steal it and crushing Sanji's wedding
-he can smuggle it by swallowing the whole Stone
-he could abuse the copy paper by drawing his awful stuff on itI wonder how Oda thought of this "Mission".
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@uniaka:
Still, if Robin is the only one that can read those, why isn't every single pirate , yonkous, marines hunting down Robin as we speak? Even her bounty looks like candy money compared to what she can reveal.
what having robin is good for when 2 of those 4 red poneglyph are in the hands of 2 yonkous and the other 2 are missing?
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Oh my gawd.
This chapter is amazing. So much revealed.I had a theory long ago that Blackbeard would kidnap Robin to lead him to Raftel and Luffy will have a show down with him to get her back.
Kaido and Big Mam both have a poenglyph. That puts them on a collision course at some point too. No wonder cthey are building up their forces, they must be getting ready to get hold of the poenglyph. Though I don't get why they're not trying to grab Robin.
If she's such an important piece of this puzzle, that makes her very dangerous and her bounty should go even higher.
Best chapter is ages, we finally learn so much information. I'm soo excited
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Damn, there are so many ways how Luffy can screw up the Mission "Copying BM's poneglyph":
-he can simply steal it and crushing Sanji's wedding
-he can smuggle it by swallowing the whole Stone
-he could abuse the copy paper by drawing his awful stuff on itI wonder how Oda thought of this "Mission".
I now want all of these things to happen. Badly.
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You know, in Oda's early sketches there was a small fishman as ship carpenter. Maybe Oda played further with that idea and made a small Stone-mason: Momo. Don't get me wrong, I don't want that brat to join, it would kill Sanji and Brook.
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I now want all of these things to happen. Badly.
One of that stuff HAS to happen
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@uniaka:
Still, if Robin is the only one that can read those, why isn't every single pirate , yonkous, marines hunting down Robin as we speak? Even her bounty looks like candy money compared to what she can reveal.
I don't see a problem there. It's probably secret info only few are aware of.
Anyway as for the reveal of 4 Poneglyphs… Now I'm really curious what's on the Raftel, to have it's location carved into indestructable Poneglyphs. What is One Piece?
Btw is the 4th Poneglyph really neccesary? Will it turn into a hunt for 4th one? I mean if it's like in the picture then there is no need for 4th, just figure out which one of 3 are opposite points and travel from one to another until reaching Raftel. Technically this way there is 33% chance to find Raftel just by getting locations read from 2 Poneglyphs.
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Dunno if was posted… But User Zeta42 from OL spotted Burgess
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When Luffy swallows that poneglyph, he'll look like a giant dice, BM and Vinsmoke Sr. see him and wonder why is he not called "Squarepants Luffy" but Strawhat Luffy.
Sanji then asks:"Luffy, have you eaten sth weird recently?" and Luffy (with his unable-to-lie-face):"No."
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after reading all posts in this thread i have but one question: why the fuck is the atrocious english of the translation spilling over into peoples posts today? maybe im just extra sensitive after developing a migraine from reading that bullshit?
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- Why Kaidou not simply beats the shit out of Buggy to get informations… Or Buggy knows jackshit. Kaidou for sure wouldn#t go after Shanks or Rayleigh easily.
- How Kaidou learned about This Wano stuff after all. Not even the WG seems to know it… Who told him? The Shogun or even Shanks back at the meeting before the war?
- How is Ohara tied to this all? Or even more the story about Olivia and her husband? Have they been on Roger's ship as well?
- Why do you need 4 of them… Actually with 2 it should be possible as well to find Raftel with looking at the map
- How are Rayleigh and Co reacting to the fact that their former crewmate has been killed by Kaidou and the Shogun? Do they don't give a fuck?
- Was the guy in the cover story with Crocus really Oden? If yes… How is it possible in such a short timeline for him sailing from Wano to Crocus and back and still being killed?
- Where is Scopper Gaban?
- Why all the years before no one of the big shots as Kaidou has been after Robin?
- With Oden being a former nakama… do you think we will get someone from Wano as well? What Oden's role have been. Was he swordsman? If yes, I think it is clear to say he wasn't Rayleigh level.
have much more but that's it for now… But goddman... AWESOME chapter
Zou arc is absolutely without a doubt the best arc since the TS
1)bagy was probably left somewhere when the grown ups reached raftel..otherwise shanks would have already got the onepiece,he was on the oro jackson as well.
2)Intel is power,and big mom seemed big on that..probably the same goes for kaidou
3)no,no they don't,what even made you think that? ò_ò
4)actually you need at least 3,2 are useless as long as you are not extremely lucky and the x is "perfect",you can't change route in the grand line,so you can't move perpendicular to the route between two silands if you don't have a third island in that direction or in the opposite one (if its magnetism is strong enough to still be felt wherever raftel is supposed to be.
5)they have gone their separate ways ..also,what would rayleight do..go against a tonkou and his entire organization alone?
6)well we still have to understand who that guy is before making questions about the feasibility of the cover story
7)probably at wano..i actually though that he and oden are the same person,but i might have misinterpreted the horrible translation..i'll wait for a better one.
8)getting robin should be the last step really,you still need at least 3 of those things ..it's not like the mugiwara now can go to raftel after robin translated one.Also,robin covered her tracks,it's not like she was on plain sight..even as the baroque works director of staff she was known as miss all sunday,and she scolded crocodile when she used her real name once.
9)if oden is a nakama of roger i'm convinced he is scopper gaban..really no reason to introduce another member of roger's crew when the guy hinted a long time ago still hasn't been in the manga.
Also ,if they are the same person..could it be that he is still somehow alive?it would be strange for oda to introduce the guy as already a corpse -
Why should Oden call himself Scopper Gaban?
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Actually it would be funny if Raftel was at the Center of Long Ring Long Land. An isle that only appears (due to Aqua Laguna) every 25 yrs.
Read it here first!Imagine that, with 20 years since Roger's execution + 2 years of timeskip.
Are we expecting another timeskip to occur later for ~3 years? -
- Why Kaidou not simply beats the shit out of Buggy to get informations… Or Buggy knows jackshit. Kaidou for sure wouldn#t go after Shanks or Rayleigh easily.
- How Kaidou learned about This Wano stuff after all. Not even the WG seems to know it… Who told him? The Shogun or even Shanks back at the meeting before the war?
- How is Ohara tied to this all? Or even more the story about Olivia and her husband? Have they been on Roger's ship as well?
- Why do you need 4 of them… Actually with 2 it should be possible as well to find Raftel with looking at the map
- How are Rayleigh and Co reacting to the fact that their former crewmate has been killed by Kaidou and the Shogun? Do they don't give a fuck?
- Was the guy in the cover story with Crocus really Oden? If yes… How is it possible in such a short timeline for him sailing from Wano to Crocus and back and still being killed?
- Where is Scopper Gaban?
- Why all the years before no one of the big shots as Kaidou has been after Robin?
- With Oden being a former nakama… do you think we will get someone from Wano as well? What Oden's role have been. Was he swordsman? If yes, I think it is clear to say he wasn't Rayleigh level.
have much more but that's it for now… But goddman... AWESOME chapter
Zou arc is absolutely without a doubt the best arc since the TS
Robins parents knew how to read them the same way that Robin did they would not have had to go on a journey looking for them if they been on Roger's ship and Roger would not have had to depend on the voice of all things too know what was said on them since her parents could read them and Oden seems to have know about the void history since they were made on Wano and that information was passed down from generation to generation he did not pass it down to his son Momo since he was not old enough yet (maybe they only tell the person that is going to be the next ruler of wano about it)
He most likely knew about it before he joined Rogers crew if he did or could have just been a ally of Roger's crew.
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HOLY SHIT
why doesnt THIS chapter get a shonen jump OP coverchapter going down in history!
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Why should Oden call himself Scopper Gaban?
maybe he is a foreigner to wano and he needed a more "wano sounding" name as the emperor?
it's like if the king of England is Called Mario Segali..he would change it probably in something more appealing for the english crowd
of course those are just theories..i would just found strange,if the translation is correct and oden was abord roger's ship,that we get another crewmember of the king of piirates before we get scopper..but it's oda's story and he can do whatever he wants,even making him show on on raftel at the end of the story while we already knew all the other members
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this chapter really shows Oda's writing abilities in so many ways. He answered so many questions yet raised another load of questions.
1- Now BigMom's visit is all that releavent.
2- He got luffy out of the way to leave the shogun for zoro.
3- Kaidou also went to KHA alliance hideout so he is not in Wano.
4- How is Kaidou interested in finding Raftel yet he is so eager to kill himself ( Very intruiging character).
5- Where does that leaves Law knowing all this information, will he seize the throne or bow before it (pursue one piece or bow to luffy)I think the team that will go with big mom won't be just luffy. But i keep thinking on who will go with him.
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Now it makes even more sense why the Oharans were wiped out. Imagine them falling into the hands of the Yonkou, whpd use that information to revive the ancient weapons, and fi d One Piece.
Akainu was right to do as he did that day.
I've not been this excited by a chapter reveal in ages. So now everything that happens next will tie into the search for Raftel…...
3 of the 4 Emperors are making a move, but what remains to be seen, what is Shanks up too? He clearly must have the other Poenglyph- it makes sense for him to do so........
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Imagine that, with 20 years since Roger's execution + 2 years of timeskip.
Are we expecting another timeskip to occur later for ~3 years?Roger's execution was 22 yrs ago, wasn't it? +2yrs of TS and one year for traveling AROUND THE WHOLE WORLD pretty much makes 25 yrs.
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Oden was executed by shogun AND Kaido ? It means they might be vassals of Kaido.
In case you misunderstood, Kaido is the shogun.
@Kishido:Dunno if was posted… But User Zeta42 from OL spotted Burgess
That is not Burguess. That's Mr.Store.
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If Kaido is a Shogun from Wano, wouldn't that mean that he's a swordsman?
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I would like the thrill of finding out pieces of information while reading the thing itself, not because the OP contained info on it. It's not like I scrolled through the chapter thread. I kind of needed to look at the first post to get the link. Is that really so hard to understand?
If you had just wanted the chapter link you could have just clicked it when you came in and read the chapter or you could have waited for the chapter to be out on the website you read them on which is what i do before i come in you have been here since 2010 you should know better by now
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Wow, what a chapter. Need some time to process it and a better translation.
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If Kaido is a Shogun from Wano, wouldn't that mean that he's a swordsman?
Seems more like he allied with the Shogan's so that Wano would be under his control in return he helps the Shogan's take over the island and gets them to send forces to help him out in wars since they're allies.
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LOL, I find it funny how just LAST week, people we're saying that Robin's obsession with finding and reading the poneglyph's was her own things and then BAAAAAAM! This week we find out that she's the key to finding Raftel. It's like Oda spy's on this board.
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Don't know if this was posted, but Jinbe's Poneglyph isn't red, so i guess it's just one of the "usual" Poneglyphs
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If Kaido is a Shogun from Wano, wouldn't that mean that he's a swordsman?
not everyone in wano is a swordsman
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LOL, I find it funny how just LAST week, people we're saying that Robin's obsession with finding and reading the poneglyph's was her own things and then BAAAAAAM! This week we find out that she's the key to finding Raftel. It's like Oda spy's on this board.
She was always the key that was the point in reading them Roger's right hand said that was how they found out where it was since Roger could hear the voice of all things and the problem was that before this chapter she was not telling them what was on them.
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So is Kaidou the shogun or is he just working for kaidou?
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Think the crew will also need an 800 year map in case locations have been updated in the last 800 years or the locations were based off an inaccurate map?
Or does this mean Nami's dream of mapping the world will also play a key component in finding Raftel?
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@uniaka:
So is Kaidou the shogun or is he just working for kaidou?
we have to wait a better translation..i understood that kaidou IS the shogun..but really the translation is so bad that we better get a betetr one before anything
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@sanji''s_dad:
She was always the key that was the point in reading them Roger's right hand said that was how they found out where it was since Roger could hear the voice of all things and the problem was that before this chapter she was not telling them what was on them.
True, I don't disagree. I'm just going by many of the members past perceptions about the situation.
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@uniaka:
So is Kaidou the shogun or is he just working for kaidou?
Considering the shogun's name was not given then probably the later.
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Every week Zou just proves to be most the plot swerving transition arc ever.
@Captain:LOL, I find it funny how just LAST week, people we're saying that Robin's obsession with finding and reading the poneglyph's was her own things and then BAAAAAAM! This week we find out that she's the key to finding Raftel. It's like Oda spy's on this board.
You know I always believed this was the case.
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I just realized that Law knew all along what that poneglyph was and didn't said nothing.
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- Why Kaidou not simply beats the shit out of Buggy to get informations… Or Buggy knows jackshit. Kaidou for sure wouldn#t go after Shanks or Rayleigh easily.
Well since Burgess is also looking for OP, He knows fuck all.
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I might be missing something, but currently sounds like if Kaido were interested in Robin, it would have been hypocritical to execute Oden.
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@uniaka:
So is Kaidou the shogun or is he just working for kaidou?
The shogun wanted to take over Wano so they allied with Kaido that way they get Kaido's protection as well and Kaido gets a island full of great fighters to add to his allied forces plus they might have known that Momo's dad knew about the void century but he would not talk so they killed him and are now after Momo since they think he was told about it being his son.
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Dunno if was posted… But User Zeta42 from OL spotted Burgess
Damn that's a nice catch.
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Well, it's not like the translation is great but you can easily get the gist of it. Make a few grammatical corrections and it's better than MS and MP combined.
Sucks that Oden is dead. I can never get enough of Roger flashbacks.
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So many questions in my head, but I just threw boiling water in my right hand and am not willing to type long messages with just the left. WHY AT A TIME LIKE THIS???
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Damn that's a nice catch.
Yeah, too bad it wasn't in the actual chapter.
This is the second Mr. Store photoshop if I'm not mistaken.
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I wonder if they will SP!it up into 2 groups, Luffy gets Sanji, the others locate Big Moms Poneglyph it now gives more of a reason for the otherSHs to go as well and not stay put
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will luffy go alone to big mom, or does he need somebody with more tact and brains. robin could do negotiations to set sanji free by offering to disipher the poneglyps big mom has.
i am wondering if momo lied about not knowing hoe to translate poneglyps. a lot of peopleare after him thinking he does
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Well, it's not like the translation is great but you can easily get the gist of it. Make a few grammatical corrections and it's better than MS and MP combined.
Sucks that Oden is dead. I can never get enough of Roger flashbacks.
16 characters of completely agreed.
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I wonder if they will SP!it up into 2 groups, Luffy gets Sanji, the others locate Big Moms Poneglyph it now gives more of a reason for the otherSHs to go as well and not stay put
You mean like how they split on Dressrosa. I'm so hyped at seeing them use same strategy every arc.
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I might be missing something, but currently sounds like if Kaido were interested in Robin, it would have been hypocritical to execute Oden.
But I'll try to figure this stuff out once we have a better translationOden refused to talk and they might have thought that Momo was told since he was his son when he was not told since maybe they only pass the information onto the next leader of wano which Momo was not old enough to be yet so this is most likely one of the reasons Kaido wants Momo.
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Yeah, too bad it wasn't in the actual chapter.
This is the second Mr. Store photoshop if I'm not mistaken.
Wow …now i feel stupid.
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Wow …now i feel stupid.
I might have fallen for it if I didn't look at a cover story for a minute to see if there's Burgess somewhere, like behind the rock or in the window.
Plus, that Mr. Store pic was used before to show us how "Burgess hid on a revolutionary ship in Dressrosa".