World of Warcraft

Cymelion

So how many ex/current wow fans are excited for this next expansion?

I'll consolidate some of the known information here in this post in around 2 hours when I get home and can look up all the sites.
I am looking forward to the new Garrison as a solution for Player Housing

Also the changes to Raiding might actually get me to join a decent guild and get back into proper raiding and not LFR.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/

Raids

The Blackrock Foundry will be the second raid available at release. It is the center of the Iron Horde and has 10 bosses in three wings, with a non linear layout.

The feel of looking down in BRD or UBRS and seeing more of the area was nice.

You will still be able to raid with similar flexibility in boss order as Flex has now.

The new Normal will be as difficult as Flex is today.

The new Heroic will be as difficult as Normal is today.

The new Mythic will be as difficult was Heroic is today.

All levels of difficulty except for Mythic will be cross realm on release.

Each raid difficulty has its own lockout. They will be loot based lockouts, allowing you to kill the same boss multiple times per week and only get loot once a week.

There is no more dynamic difficulty switching in raids. Now you have Mythic trash and Mythic trash loot.

Raid Finder will be the only kind of raid you queue for now. Normal (current Flex) will require you to zone in.

Loot will scale based on the number of players, giving you a higher chance for another piece of loot the more players you have. This ensures there are no optimal breakpoints that would limit raid size to get more loot.

Right now boss abilities still have some breakpoints. Going from 14 to 15 adds a third target for a certain mechanic in SoO right now, but in the future it would have a scaling random chance to have a third target so that there isn't that breakpoint.

Quests

Quest chains that are important and have important lore and story will be indicated with an icon.

There will be more optional content and less quest hubs that have to be unlocked by another chain first.

The dynamic events from Timeless Isle will appear in the world when you are leveling and Level 100. Right now they are mostly soloable rare spawns, but the WoD events will be more complex and not soloable.

Treasures will be hidden down paths that quests don't send you down and found frequently. They also will have a small amount of story to go with them.

Quests will have a chance to give you rare or epic rewards.

The quest UI has been updated to combine the map and quest log and help guide the quest experience better.

The map will show you where you left off on the important storyline quests.

The world will be more dynamic and less predictable.

Level 100 Content

There will be few or no daily quests at level 100!

There will be more max level content than ever before.

People really liked the Patch 5.1 daily quest story line, as well as the Timeless Isle reward system. These will be combined to create big zones with long progressive story lines that are more free form.

There will be some environmental gameplay, similar to Troves. It gives you an opportunity to use your class skills that are normally not used to earn rewards.

Garrisons

When you build your Garrison, you will get a few starting buildings.

The Town Hall is your main point of interaction and is automatically placed.

All profession buildings are in the Small Buildings category. They will allow you to use an engineer follower to run missions to get engineering recipes and items.

The pet stable will have a trainer you can fight.

Large buildings are something you would expect to see in a WC3 base. Each building has a bonus. For example, the barracks will let you have more followers.

Buildings start out small and are upgraded over time.

Some upgrades can be purchased, but some are blueprints that you find in the world. They can be faction rewards, quest rewards, random world drops, or found in other ways.

Specializations allow you to customize a max level building. They can be changed once each day and may have a cost. You pick from one of three specializations.

Some buildings will allow you to assign followers to them. If you find a miner follower, he can work while you are offline collecting ore.

Managing your followers will be an important part of garrisons.

Fill plots to upgrade your tier. Plots come in multiple sizes.

Followers can be sent on Quests, Scenarios, Dungeons, or Raids. Raids may take party of a week and many followers.

You put the followers into a party and send them on missions. You get a bonus if you match traits on your followers to the missions.

When you send your follower somewhere in your Garrison, you will see the follower there.

Systems

World of Warcraft is a game you play with friends. WoD will remove barriers that stop you from playing with friends and encourage you to make new friends.

Random matchmaking is going to feel like a last resort.

Raid Finder is there to let you see the content and story, almost like a Tourist mode.

Group Finder will work cross realm and work for many different types of groups. Finishing Shadowmorune, RBGs, Raids and more!

Stacking the Deck will give you bonus Valor for queuing with friends or queuing again with the same random matchmade group. (~10% bonus Valor)

Leveling

Leveling doesn't feel as exciting as it used to, so WoD will try to address that.

From level 91 to 100 you will get upgrades to your core spells. Some will be slight class changes, some will be passive bonuses, similar to old spell ranks. Some of the boosts will definitely be easy to feel.

See the slides for examples of leveling rewards!

Itemization

Getting new items should be exciting. Right now it feels like you have to do a lot of work when you get a new item.

Hit and Expertise don't feel like a bonus, so they are now gone!

Dodge and Parry, gone!

Reforging, gone!

Enchanting is still around, but fewer items can be enchanted. There will be more enchant choices for those items.

The number of items with gem sockets will be gone. Only one gem slot per item. Gems are more powerful. Sockets are a bonus that don't count towards item level budget. No more socket bonuses or meta gems.

The stats on armor will now change based on your spec. Plate drops and it will have whatever stats your class needs, no more Intellect plate! No more PvP Priest Healing set and PvP Priest DPS set, just a Priest set.

Jewelery, cloak, trinkets, and weapons will be more role focused and might keep stats.

Armor will become a good tanking stat again, Spirit will be good for healers.

Tertiary stats are bonus stats that can appear on gear that don't count towards the item level budget. Lifesteal, avoidance, sturdiness, movement speed (stacks with other bonuses), cleave, and more.

Item squish is in! All of the big jumps from old expansions and raid tiers will be flattened.

Your relative power won't change, just the numbers. The speed at which you kill things won't change. You can still solo old content.

Q&A

Connected realms will make it possible to find a Mythic group on realms that are currently low population.

The transition to 20 player Mythic raiding will be difficult, but it will be good for tuning and the game as a whole.

Scaling raids to 30 is a possibility, but isn't planned right now.

Scaling player level is being worked on still. When the team comes up with a good way to scale and reward old content there will be more to talk about.

Followers do content that is unique to Garrisons, not anything that players can do.

Cyborg009

another expansion…already?

Galaxy 9000

I stopped playing before Siege of Orgimmar released, but I'll probably give this a try.

Best thing I've seen so far is the updated character models. The old ones definitely didn't age well.

Not really a fan of the instant 90 (even though it's 1 time only). End game really doesn't need more players that don't know how to play.

Cymelion

@Galaxy:

Not really a fan of the instant 90 (even though it's 1 time only). End game really doesn't need more players that don't know how to play.

Actually I think this is one of their best ideas - Dinging to 90 means they still have to level to 100 but it also means people who have not played since BC or WOLK don't have to do multiple expansions worth of leveling just to play with everyone else. It also could help to bring a lot of newer players into the game having a newly minted main at 90 and learning how to play from there isn't as daunting as it used to be.
Talents being streamlined and abilities not as overwhelming as previously done.

tarrin4ever

As a child raised on the old games, this holds so much appeal for me. Dat lore.

CosmicDebris

I just got back from Blizzcon, and I can say it definitely got me stoked for the xpac, even though I haven't really had fun in WoW in well over 2 years. I played Mists of Pandaria (which I was also excited for after Blizzcon 2011, mind you) but found that it didn't hold my interest, stayed subbed but rarely have played and eventually canceled my sub.

I can't express exactly how much the new character models and new revamped SOUND library means to me, as well as a lot of the loot/inventory changes. This is stuff that needed to be done long ago. It's got to the point where the Vanilla models don't even look like they belong in the same game as the more recent ones, or the world they're walking in, for that matter.

As for the expansion story itself, it's kind of wonky as time travel ideas get, but I like that they're trying to get back to the feeling of the classic Warcraft…they've kind of drifted from that since Cataclysm. I demo'd a hunter for WoD and I have to say that between the new model, animations, and new gun sounds (know how awful the old sound was?), it was pretty darn hawt.

Cymelion

I have been thinking the Garrison seems to be very Casual gamer-esk.

And not in a bad way - I think it is an awesome alternative to daily quests to keep you coming back. Since it has a lot of base/npc management aspect, that said I also suspect people will be parking their characters in their garrison a whole lot more than anywhere else sort of like Sunsong Ranch.

zachri

[/insert mass fangasms here, there, and everywhere]

tarrin4ever

Geeky fan nitpick in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1

Sooo, that guy in the back left here is Blackhand?

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What happened to his awesome hat?

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Jabra

@Galaxy:

Not really a fan of the instant 90 (even though it's 1 time only). End game really doesn't need more players that don't know how to play.

You will be able to buy more 90's if you want. The reason for that, apparently, is that people would simply buy several expansions for more "free" 90's anyway. So yeah…whatever.

I skipped the last 2 expansions for various reasons and the above definitely turns me off as well.

Edit:

You can technically buy as many level 90s as you want if you buy another copy of the game, get the level 90, and then transfer the character to your main account each time. The team has talked about putting a level 90 purchase option in the store, but it hasn't been decided yet."

Okay, seems they only "consider" it, but knowing Blizzard.

Galaxy 9000

Wow, that's awful. I really hope they don't add a purchase option/don't allow that (even though that'd be pretty expensive to repeat).

Really though, this is the only problem that I see with the new expansion content so far. The elimination of reforging is a huge plus (always was a pain in the ass anyways). The removal of dodge and parry is going to be weird to get used to as well, but it's not that big of a loss. Been anticipating the item squish as well (1 million HP is outrageous).

Glad they're going to try to address leveling and questing to make it more fun, but I'm pretty sure they said they were doing this with the more streamlined Cataclysm.. and that wasn't too fun after the first time around.

CosmicDebris

@tarrin4ever:

Geeky fan nitpick in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1

Sooo, that guy in the back left here is Blackhand?

! http://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/blizzard-announces-new-world-of-warcraft-expansion-warlords-of-draenor.jpg

What happened to his awesome hat?

! http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/wowpedia.org/b/b6/Warcraft1-black-hand-leader.jpg

He only wears it for parties.

Cymelion

@Jabra:

You will be able to buy more 90's if you want. The reason for that, apparently, is that people would simply buy several expansions for more "free" 90's anyway. So yeah…whatever.

I skipped the last 2 expansions for various reasons and the above definitely turns me off as well.

Edit:

Okay, seems they only "consider" it, but knowing Blizzard.

Think of it like the Death Knights kinda - A good catch up mechanic for people wanting to join in the game with others/friends and not have to level from scratch.

I know there are many ways to improve it - but leveling up 100 levels to play end game content is just insane.

Jabra

@Cymelion:

Think of it like the Death Knights kinda - A good catch up mechanic for people wanting to join in the game with others/friends and not have to level from scratch.

I know there are many ways to improve it - but leveling up 100 levels to play end game content is just insane.

I think of it as another step towards "pay to win".
I get the idea that people want to play together and that getting old players back into the endgame is a logical priority, but in the end it will be used to conveniently play the "flavor of the month" class for some extra cash. Mind that I have no issue with the one-time boost to 90, even if it's pushing it, but the possibility of more paid 90's is nothing but another attempt to milk some extra dollars.
I agree that leveling to 100 from scratch is insane, especially if you played the content 2-3 times already, but there are better ways to deal with that. Recruit a friend, increasing the rested bonus, or maybe the option to start any class at 55. Hell, if they make the 90's a free option I wouldn't even have that much of a problem with it, but the moment it becomes a paid service? No thanks.

I really hope they reconsider that option, because if that goes through it won't be long till you can buy some raid gear for the current content. Because yeah, people want to play together with their friends and gearing up takes too long.

CosmicDebris

They will not allow you to purchase a level 90. It's just not like Blizzard to do that. They already have offered Scrolls of Resurrection for some time which allows a person to send a friend who hasn't' logged in for a while a scroll and bump them up to level 80.

Cymelion

@Jabra:

I think of it as another step towards "pay to win".
I get the idea that people want to play together and that getting old players back into the endgame is a logic priority, but in the end it will be used to conveniently play the "flavor of the month" class for some extra cash. Mind that I have no issue with the one-time boost to 90, even if it's pushing it, but the possibility of more paid 90's is nothing but another attempt to milk some extra dollars.
I agree that leveling to 100 from scratch is insane, especially if you played the content 2-3 times already, but there are better ways to deal with that. Recruit a friend, increasing the rested bonus, or maybe the option to start any class at 55. Hell, if they make the 90's a free option I wouldn't even have that much of a problem with it, but the moment it becomes a paid service? No thanks.

I really hope they reconsider that option, because if that goes through it won't be long till you can buy some raid gear for the current content. Because yeah, people want to play together with their friends and gearing up takes too long.

Well I know the Asian WOW market they are looking at consumables being for sale like XP Potions and the like - but then again the Asian market WOW is almost completely different. You pay for time not the Month and they have some other key differences - so the whole paid 90's might become a thing but it might be limited.

However if I was to suggest a way to level up alts - It would be an Heirloom item that basically collects XP from a max level toon - so when you quest/raid/pvp you store XP in the heirloom and then you can post it to an alt and the alt then drains the XP from the Heirloom leveling you up.

I agree paying for max level is a bit irritating for a subscription based game - I even hate the whole paid customization thing - paid name change and realm change is good though stops people just being idiots and jumping ship.

Aohige_AP

I'm gonna come back with this expansion.

Might as well do some panda before then…

tarrin4ever

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tarrin4ever

@Aohige_AP:

I'm gonna come back with this expansion.

Might as well do some panda before then…

Want a scroll of resurrection?

CosmicDebris

I have scrolls available too. ^_^

zachri

Anyone who wants to come back to WoW but needs a new account or someone who wants to come to WoW - send me your emails so I can use the recruit a friend thing.
Need me some awesome stuffles.
ALSO
Khadgar Horde, Steamwheedle Cartel Alliance, bazing.

Capt Haggis

Wow didn't notice this thread.

I'm excited as always. I'm as casual as they come, so WoD has that vote. Haven't raided since MC, Timeless isle was the first time I ever got full epics.

Garrisons are unexpected since they always been so anti player housing. I'm looking forward to it. Most likely I put mine in the frostfire zone.

100 talents are looking good. I know quite a few hunters are interested in the petless hunter talent, though I never play anything but beastmaster myself.

1-90 thing, I might try it to tryout a new spec, rather just skip 60-70 9 times though.

In other wow news I'm leveling my first blood elf ever. My conclusion so far. Ghostlands is the worst zone I have ever been in. I hate it with a passion! I knew BC questing was a grindy mess, but this is worst then I imagined.

GetsugaZoro

@Capt:

Wow didn't notice this thread.

I'm excited as always. I'm as casual as they come, so WoD has that vote. Haven't raided since MC, Timeless isle was the first time I ever got full epics.

Garrisons are unexpected since they always been so anti player housing. I'm looking forward to it. Most likely I put mine in the frostfire zone.

100 talents are looking good. I know quite a few hunters are interested in the petless hunter talent, though I never play anything but beastmaster myself.

1-90 thing, I might try it to tryout a new spec, rather just skip 60-70 9 times though.

In other wow news I'm leveling my first blood elf ever. My conclusion so far. Ghostlands is the worst zone I have ever been in. I hate it with a passion! I knew BC questing was a grindy mess, but this is worst then I imagined.

Not really, the wanted to implement it but they never were really able to do it, I don't see Garrisons as player housing even, I see it kinda like Suikoden in wow, you recruit characters, you build buildings, send dudes in missons, etc.

About Belf starting zone you probabyl saying this because of the updated zones, back in the day people would atually take thier orcs/Tauren/undead because it was better to level and pretty good compared to the rest.

CosmicDebris

Hm, if the petless hunter talent is actually just as effective at raid damage as without it, that would be incredibly appealing to me. Because the one thing that has stopped me from playing a hunter (and warlocks as well, and stopped playing my DK once they removed Blood DPS) is that I'm not a fan of relying on pets for damage. That and how much cooler the new weapons are going to sound. :)

Personally I always liked Ghostlands. I think Getsuga is right that the problem now for you is that they've revamped all the older zones but haven't touched the BC starting areas.

Capt Haggis

Maybe. I didn't have so much trouble with dranaei monk. And I'm seem to recall enjoying westfall and the loch more, but I never played much horde, perhaps the barrens were that bad.

Worst part was this one area. The mobs were only one level over me, but were strong. I seemed to do half damage and my spells kept missing. They did massive damage to my voidwalker and if I faced two I would have to resummon him while getting punched in my face. On the other hand when the same character got attacked by three or four casters all two or three levels above me I had no problem despite my imp getting killed off.

Oh almost forgot. Thoughts about no flying till 6.1? It sounds a bit annoying, but I guess it no real problem. Not like we have to 5 daily hubs to run around this time.

CosmicDebris

People have blown that out of proportion. They casually said "we'd consider pushing it back as far as 6.1" but it was just an offhand comment, not an official statement. Considering how strongly people reacted to it, I highly doubt they'll do that.

PS - I never liked the Draenei starting zone, lol.

Capt Haggis

Maybe not confirmed, but mmo champion posted a bunch of tweets from ghostcrawler that say it more they being thought about. They could change their minds, but looks pretty solid right now.

CosmicDebris

There have been a lot of "solid" things that have changed.

But even if true, 6.1 could come fairly quick. They've always limited flying in expansions. You had to get to max level in BC through MoP to fly. So for some slower levelers, 6.1 could come way faster.

Jabra

@CosmicDebris:

They will not allow you to purchase a level 90. It's just not like Blizzard to do that.

Update on the matter

Warlords of Draenor Survey
A survey was emailed to a small group of players that had a few interesting questions about Warlords of Draenor. (via Rivenwolf)
[* The survey asked about pricing Warlords of Draenor at $39 or $49 with the boost of a character to level 90.

It also asked about pricing Warlords of Draenor at $39 without boost of a character to level 90.
Another question asked what a fair price for the level 90 boost would be.
Keep in mind that as it was described at Blizzcon, you might be able to purchase a copy of Warlords of Draenor and WoW, then get the free level 90 and transfer that character to your main WoW account, which would allow the purchase of level 90 characters in a roundabout way.
The Blizzcon Q&A mentioned that the team has talked about putting a level 90 purchase option in the store.
Players were also asked if they had purchased the Annual Pass for Diablo 3 and if they would purchase an annual pass now for Diablo 3.](http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/3666-Warlords-of-Draenor-Level-90-Boost-Survey-Blue-Tweets-10-Death-Knight-Heroic-ToT)

Galaxy 9000

The release date was finally announced last week as November 13, 2014. Even though I hate the Level 90 character boost.. I'm giving the expansion a try because this game has been in my life for 9 years now, off and on (and a few friends of mine want to start playing, so I thought, why not?)

The expansion is up on the Public Test Realm for anybody interested. I'm not a fan of ruining the surprise, so I only got on to see the new character models… and they're beautiful. Hoping this expansion won't let me down!

Skogstroll

Ouaaaa. That soon?

I haven't really been playing regulary since the start of Cata and before I went to Japan this spring I was just pvping. Then I didn't come back… maybe I'll give Warlords a try, the story sounds promising... should get back before the end events start =d

Galaxy 9000

The expansion comes out in a week. Anybody gonna be playing at launch?

I've been leveling up several alts, and they've severely squished the XP needed to level up once again. 89 to 90 used to be ~6 million XP, and now it's cut down to ~600k xp.

Last chance to get the Iron Invasion achievement is coming up as well, as it'll be removed after the expansion content opens.

GetsugaZoro

@Galaxy:

The expansion comes out in a week. Anybody gonna be playing at launch?

I've been leveling up several alts, and they've severely squished the XP needed to level up once again. 89 to 90 used to be ~6 million XP, and now it's cut down to ~600k xp.

Last chance to get the Iron Invasion achievement is coming up as well, as it'll be removed after the expansion content opens.

I am, currently unsubed, my sub ended two weeks ago so I'm waiting for the xpac to resub, played a lot on the beta already so I'm very familiar with everything.

Capt Haggis

Ready and waiting. The only question is who to level once haggis (my hunter main hits a 100) my monk, mage or DK. Leaning towards my mage so I can see the horde side.

Cymelion

Wow what a difference a year makes.

I have been still subscribed for a about 5 months now but not playing since I had a major falling out with the person I played WOW with and realized they were the only reason I was staying in the game.

Now that I lost that friendship I have noticed more and more about the game I've never been happy with - I'm tired of yet another expansion all about the Horde, the constant introduction of micro-transactions and the destruction of classes.
But what mostly killed it was the Achievements - I used to want to chase achievements but they introduced so many and then they make them Legacy/Feats of Strength making them impossible to someone who doesn't have the time they used to, to obtain.

Wow is pretty much dead to me and it feels sad but then again I have other games I am looking forward to. Those excited for the game I salute you but after the 10 years of Wow I have been playing I think its time I ended it all.

Galaxy 9000

Hotfixes for November 5th: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/16561637/603-hotfixes-november-5-11-5-2014

@Cymelion:

the constant introduction of micro-transactions and the destruction of classes.
But what mostly killed it was the Achievements - I used to want to chase achievements but they introduced so many and then they make them Legacy/Feats of Strength making them impossible to someone who doesn't have the time they used to, to obtain.
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I can understand the Level 90 boost, but what's wrong with the cosmetic micro transactions? They give no benefit to anybody that doesn't buy them (and arguably, the 90 boost really isn't that big of a benefit, as the class still has to be learned in order to be effective).

About achievements, I can kind of see what you mean. Not being able to get certain achievements or titles due to the content being removed or updated has always been a huge bummer… but then again, it's not like the achievements are that game breaking anyways. At least the points aren't counted for those achievements that have been phased out, and they're purely there just for show.

Cymelion

@Galaxy:

Hotfixes for November 5th: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/16561637/603-hotfixes-november-5-11-5-2014

I can understand the Level 90 boost, but what's wrong with the cosmetic micro transactions? They give no benefit to anybody that doesn't buy them (and arguably, the 90 boost really isn't that big of a benefit, as the class still has to be learned in order to be effective).

About achievements, I can kind of see what you mean. Not being able to get certain achievements or titles due to the content being removed or updated has always been a huge bummer… but then again, it's not like the achievements are that game breaking anyways. At least the points aren't counted for those achievements that have been phased out, and they're purely there just for show.

I think it's more that I pay a subscription and the cosmetic items are locked away.

Now that said I still bought some of them back when I was really into wow and didn't have an issue with them then but now I am just less tollerant of their existance I guess it kind of rubs me the wrong way having cosmetic items and still requiring a subscription.

Capt Haggis

Personally I'm glad they still have a subs. I tried to get back into SW:TOR last year and everything was so locked behind micro transactions that I got fed up and uninstalled within a hour. I rather play an annual fee then feel like I have to pay to enjoy something claiming to be free.

But then I have no real interest in the stuff in the shop.

jonnyboy0079

I've played the beta, this expansion is going to be something else, I love how much of the exploration and narrative is such a callback to Vanilla WoW.

Cymelion

@jonnyboy0079:

I've played the beta, this expansion is going to be something else, I love how much of the exploration and narrative is such a callback to Vanilla WoW.

I had access to the Beta but just couldn't find the spark to get back into the game even though I had free access - which was annoying because I remember being so pissed that I wouldn't get beta for the other expansions back when I actually cared about the game.

jonnyboy0079

@Cymelion:

I had access to the Beta but just couldn't find the spark to get back into the game even though I had free access - which was annoying because I remember being so pissed that I wouldn't get beta for the other expansions back when I actually cared about the game.

Yeah things get very frustrating aftera while, I hate that the devs didn't deliver on their promise on delivering fresh content so the game doesn't go stale 1 year+ duration on patch 5.4 :T If it was for my friends and family I'd be packin up and leaving.

zachri

My University day off is a Thursday.
WoD releases Thursday.
Only in for an hour on Friday.
I know what I'm gonna be spending Thursday and most of Friday doing.
Motivation to get this component of an assignment finished faster, but it's glitching on me.
OH CRUEL FATE, PUTTING A DEADLINE SO VERY DARN CLOSE AFTER THE RELEASE OF WoD.

I don't even know which of my characters to play for WoD…
Here's a list of em:

[hide]Lumierre, Gnome Monk, Windwalker (BEST SAVAGE MOG EVER AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA)
Valori, Orc Warrior, Arms (just noticed Armory hasn't updated - she's got a new purple themed mog now based around the Judgement Tier Recolour chestpiece)
Bauscheusse, Pandaren Priest, Disc (first 90, healer. Still working on mog.)
Omlette, Orc Hunter, BM (my oldest WoW character I got her to 90 recently <3 so happeh)
Byanca, Human Mage, Frost (more of an RP character though)

Also lvling a Nelf DK and an Orc Warlock, as well as a Goblin Shaman.[/hide]

jonnyboy0079

OMG my friend just sent me this! This is by my job, rushing to check it out right meow!

CosmicDebris

I resubbed…trying to decide what to level for my main this time. I made the wrong decision last time and regretted it.

I am very pleased with the inventory changes. Honestly, my bags and bank had gotten so out of control with my reagents, collected outfits, toys, heirlooms it was depressing to even try working with it. Huge relief!

@Capt:

Personally I'm glad they still have a subs. I tried to get back into SW:TOR last year and everything was so locked behind micro transactions that I got fed up and uninstalled within a hour. I rather play an annual fee then feel like I have to pay to enjoy something claiming to be free.

But then I have no real interest in the stuff in the shop.

You can still sub to SW:TOR you know….I still am, even though I haven't played in a while, no interest in trying the free version.

Skogstroll

I resubbed a while ago to check out the end event and I was so dissapointed. It was a puny chain quest that took no time at all to complete, it's as though they didn't even care about it! =/

Maybe they did get a lot of shit from the end event to Wrath (something I don't understand, turning into scourage was brilliant) but the one to Cata was ok, I liked the idea with the twilight hammer. I don't remember the one to MoP (is that a bad thing? The one to TBC gave me a fake pala set and was fun, I remember it too) and even though I did the chain quest to WoD I can't remember it anymore. Hm.

And then there's the content. There isn't much to do… which, I guess, has always been the case before an expansion but still. Before I used to hang in a raid guild (well, I still am although I'm just a social and not on the roster) and we'd try new bosses or heroic versions of them before the expansion. Now I can't do that, the LFR doesn't... give the same kick.

I did a weak attempt at getting the legendary cloak but after a few raids I realized I wouldn't get everything I need for it before the expansion is out which is a bit pooey. I guess I should've tried to get it earlier but oh well.

The only thing I've succeeded in doing now when I'm back is PVPing, something I can never get enough of. It's nice. I've been shadow for quite a while now but I'm trying out disc to get a change of pace and to my surprise I'm invincible. Not even the OP rogues can kill me, it's hilarous. I haven't even bothered to check what my stat priorities are, I'm just going with the flow and surviving.

... that being said, I don't log on every day. Maybe 2-3 times a week, tops. I'll prolly buy the expansion tomorrow and level a bank alt to 90 or something, we'll see, but I'm not too enthusiastic.

In fact, even though a lot of my friends seem to be coming back for the expansion, it's a bit depressing. I miss the old days.

CosmicDebris

There's really more to do now than there ever has been in WoW…especially pre-expansion. Unless the only thing you care to do is get the newest gear.

Skogstroll

When thinking about it, I guess you're right. It just hasn't felt as though there's been much to do, but I haven't been intrested in doing what has been offered so it hasn't felt like it =d Oh well, just half an hour left and then we'll see some new things!

Galaxy 9000

This is my first time playing an expansion at launch time… and oh boy is it quite the experience. So many server crashes, disconnects, and overall lag in the zones.

Other than that though, I'm loving the visuals of Draenor. The changes in questing are also pretty awesome, and I'm looking forward to getting the garrison unlocked so I can check out all the features there.

Seems the expansion is the easiest yet though in terms of leveling. People are already level 94 on the server I play on.

jonnyboy0079

The beginning zone is quite epic, I love the cinematic pans for the Warlords, kinda Borderlands-y jajajaja

CosmicDebris

@Galaxy:

This is my first time playing an expansion at launch time… and oh boy is it quite the experience. So many server crashes, disconnects, and overall lag in the zones.

They're a lot more mild than the issues in the past. Back when Burning Crusade launched, nobody could even get through the portal because everyone crashed every server. :)