Well, it was pretty clear from the get-go… :<
! At least it wasn't Kirigiri.
Dangan Ronpa (Translated VN via SA) [Spoilers through DRV3]
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okay here are my two possibilties
! the obvious one is Sakura killed herself and was assisted by one of the students … Possibly Asahina :(
! But I am also leaning heavier on Alter Ego perhaps having done it in the name of some logical idea it had been fed, that being Sakura was a threat as a mole? Like, the old 'robot does stupid thing it thinks is logical and doesn't know why it was bad]edit: actually the latter is dumb cuz I have no idea how it could possibly work so I guess the former
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! Im pretty sure she knew she was going to die, I don't think the Ashita no Joe reference is just for the sake of a reference.
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! there is blood on the last picture, interesting
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! I just totally and absolutely cannot bring myself to speculate that Asahina could be the culprit here.
! It would be horribly fitting with the idea of 'absolute despair,' but damn you i just like her character too much :(
! I do wonder about Sakura's peaceful expression at the time of her death. Could it be possible that she allowed someone to kill (perhaps poison) her as part of some sort of "deal" that is currently unrevealed?
! Because for some reason I don't see her smiling so gently if the death caught her by surprise, and you'd sure as hell have to get the drop on her if you planned to take her out unwillingly because she's built like a gorilla -
! Well the blood on the mouth says its poison, but there are also the two missing bottles that were probably used as a weapon.
! Monobear file never says what was the cause of death.
! I think we have multiple people who all tried to kill Sakura , but only one was able to do it.
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! I think the killer was the first person to enter in the room, when said killer heard someone coming, he/she felt the need to hide him/herself inside the locker. Sakura enters in the room, the killer waits till she sits down at the sofa and is left alone if she wasn't already. The desk with the bottles is placed next to the locker which is right behind the sofa. The killer steps out of the locker, grabs one of the bottles and hit sakura on the head.
! I can't see syo doing this, so I guess the killer was Togami, Fukawa or unexpectedly enough Asahina -
! I think the killer was the first person to enter in the room, when said killer heard someone coming, he/she felt the need to hide him/herself inside the locker. Sakura enters in the room, the killer waits till she sits down at the sofa and is left alone if she wasn't already. The desk with the bottles is placed next to the locker which is right behind the sofa. The killer steps out of the locker, grabs one of the bottles and hit sakura on the head.
! I can't see syo doing this, so I guess the killer was Togami, Fukawa or unexpectedly enough Asahina! Remember there are two bottles missing, so that could mean two things:
! A single person used the two bottles.
Two people each used a bottle.(That would explain why only one broken bottle was found)
! And there is still the poison issue. -
! Well the blood on the mouth says its poison, but there are also the two missing bottles that were probably used as a weapon.
! Monobear file never says what was the cause of death.
! I think we have multiple people who all tried to kill Sakura , but only one was able to do it.! yeah, I think somebody tried to kill poison her too, probably with the candy but I don't like where that possibility would lead us.
The wrapping of the candy was kinda far from the place where she vomited blood though.–- Update From New Post Merge ---
! Remember there are two bottles missing, so that could mean two things:
! A single person used the two bottles.
Two people each used a bottle.(That would explain why only one broken bottle was found)
! And there is still the poison issue.! I think the second bottle issue is related to the locked room mistery, three people trying to kill her are way too many and it doesn't seem logical to use more than one bottle and the monobear file says "There are signs of a blow to the victim's head**. It appears the head was struck hard. There are no other visible external wounds on the body.****"**
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! Well its Sakura so I don't think just a single bottle to the head would kill her. And the file doesn't mention that it was one blow, so it migh be two for all we know(well im just grasping straws with this one). I still think it was poison that killed her, we had too many murders due to blows to head, time to change it a bit.
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! Hagakure is so suspicious that he is totally not the culprit.
! And with that protein bottle(that is where the poison comes I bet) I guess it was put there after they entered the room, hmmm my question is why?
! I guess the murder weapon wasn't poison after all and someone put that there to make the others think it was poison.
! My best guess is Togami now just because of that. -
! 'm guessing that the protein bottle could have been Aoi's, and she had dropped it inside the room from the shock of seeing Sakura's body. I think there was also the possibility that the bottle was laid on top of the chair which was blocking the window, as other people in the SA forums had stated.
Other than that, Dangan Ronpa 2 is out!!! Hooray! Orenronen seems to like it so far, so an LP of the sequel seems to be very probable at this point. He still has a long way to go for this current LP though…
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! Yep my guess that there were two strikes to head was right.
! So my theory is that Syo/Fukawa attacked Sakura first after meeting her and thinking that she killed her ran away(most likely Fukawa in this case), meanwhile Hagakure who arrived earlier and decided to hid inside the locker for some reason(probably to suprise attack Sakura) saw the whole thing, but when he was about to leave Sakura was still alive so he attacked with another bottle, hid the figure and chess piece(but as this update showed not all the shards) and wrote a fake dying message and left after stealing some candy because he is Hagakure.
! But Sakura was still alive and died later by poisoning for some reason. I don't know yet how or who(please not Aoi).On a similar note I think I found out who the 16th student is.
While rereading the first update I found this:In addition, there was a "Super High-school Level wrestler", a "Super High-school Level heir", a "Super High-school Level swimmer", a "Super High-school Level fanboy"…
"Super High-school Level hacker", "Super High-school Level gambler", "Super High-school Level hall monitor", "Super High-school Level fortune teller", and so on.
As you see Naegi mentions a SHSL fanboy in middle of the ones that we know, so I will bet that is the 16th student(or maybe Kirigiri). -
One of the several possible translations for Otaku is a fanboy, so it's most likely just Ultra Goon there. :(
Please, game, let Aoi be the murderer. I want to DESPAIR. :)
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! Obviously hagakure didn't kill her. That means the killer is either togami or fukawa
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! My theory is that the three of them all took a shot at Oogami, but only one of them finished her off. Hagakure thinks he killed her, but he's mistaken. Fukawa doesn't know if Syo did it or not, so she's just freaking out. And then Togami thinks he was unsuccessful, but it will turn out that his poisoning or something did it after all.
! Just my hastily-thought-out prediction. -
Look what I got in the mail recently! :wub:
It contains 127 solid pages of… stuff. I'm not brave enough to flip through the spoiler-filled pages yet, maybe in one or two more chapters of the LP, but I can accept requests to scan some stuff for later. Don't tell me to scan the entire thing, though. Maybe less than 1/5 of it.
Pages 4-9 contain game promo illustrations,
Pages 10-78 are all character concept art/info,
Pages 79-112 contains special illustrative screenshots from the game, such as murder cutscenes,
Pages 113-120 contains the interview portion, which I can't for the life of me translate because of kanji,
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Wow thats really nice, yes 30 pages of screeshots showing our characters dead, how nice.:sad:
I'm not brave enough to flip through the spoiler-filled pages yet
So I guess you can only read to page 9.
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So I guess you can only read to page 9.
Yeah, pretty much. I'm too scared to stumble into character-related spoilers because that's basically what the enjoyment of the entire game stems from for me, so the Character profile/concept art is off limits. For now, anyway.
Anywho, when I get the time to, I'll post some high-res scans. It is recommended to be caught up with the updates before you click and view the pictures. I'll do my best to translate some of the side notes near the sketches and captions under the pictures, but yeah, reading kanji characters is totally not my forte. If it were only Hira and Kata characters, I would be ok. I think that Orenronen has mentioned that he would cover some things in the fan book by translating them, so it might be safe to just wait for that. I'll ask him sometime if I could borrow his future translations and Photoshop them into the high-res scans.
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! So Fukawa isn't the culprit either, what killed sakura was the poison, the culprit must be either toogami or asahina, probably toogami.
or maybe sakura killed herself, would anyone be executed if that was what happened? -
! I have this feeling in my gut that says Togami didn't do it, so if Fukawa and Hagakure didn't do it, then suicide seems like the only option.
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! Im torn between Asahina and suicide.
! But still if it was suicide I would think that Sakura wouldn't try to hide it unless she wanted to kill everyone. Unless someone changed something in murder scene like with that protein bottle(I have no ideia why anyone would want to do that). -
! Its not Aoi just because we still didn't have the whole comic gameplay thing.
! Yeah im going with suicide now. Or maybe its actually Fukawa since it was revelead that she and Syo don't share the same memories(huh I was pretty sure that Syo at least knew Fukawa's memories) and she could have done something. Or maybe its Togami because he is a dick.
! I don't have a clue. -
Asahina what are you doing girl?
! Yep it was suicide. Asahina is also really suicidal I guess.
! I love Togami's "ohhhhh shit" face. -
! But why did sakura lock the door? and and Why was Asahina making them vote for the wrong person which would get even her dead?
Nobody gains nothing from that and I don't think Sakura would want Asahina to die.
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! But why did sakura lock the door? and and Why was Asahina making them vote for the wrong person which would get even her dead?
Nobody gains nothing from that and I don't think Sakura would want Asahina to die.! Sakura invited three people to see her killing herself, but when that didn't work she blocked the door so that when people would see her body and the poison bottle on the floor and the fact the door could only be blocked from the inside they would see it was suicide.
But thanks to Asahina messing with crime scene Sakura's plan didn't work.
! Asahina probably has given up(I was always saying that she would go crazy and kill someone) by seeing her best friend dead and the fact that it was suicide of all things.
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! Sakura invited three people to see her killing herself, but when that didn't work she blocked the door so that when people would see her body and the poison bottle on the floor and the fact the door could only be blocked from the inside they would see it was suicide.
But thanks to Asahina messing with crime scene Sakura's plan didn't work.
! Asahina probably has given up(I was always saying that she would go crazy and kill someone) by seeing her best friend dead and the fact that it was suicide of all things.
I think this finally broke her.! That doesn't sit right with me, how would she know it was suicide unless sakura had told her about it. And if Sakura told her about it she giving up and broking doesn't make sense to me
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Hmm, alright… so let me get this straight.
! Before meeting up with Togami, Fukawa and Hagakure, Sakura has visited the Chemistry Lab to grab the poison from cabinet C. Then, she (accidentally?) spilt the yellow powder, some had landed on her feet. Fukawa hid inside the locker. Sakura then met up with Hagakure at the murder scene. A couple of smashed bottles later, Sakura might have still been alive.
! This next part is still uncertain, and I don't have any clear evidence to help my theory, but it looks like Sakura sat down after she has been hit by both bottles and then drank the poison to finish herself off, confident that there was enough evidence to prove that either Fukawa or Hagakure attacked and killed her by hitting her on the head.
! This next part is tricky too; we know that Aoi was somehow involved with the protein cabinets because of her shoe traces, but she did not need to go to the poison cabinet. All she had to do was switch the contents of a poison bottle with one of the protein bottles in the protein cabinet. Because the poisonous bottle was left by the door (shard of door window was caught inside when Naegi broke in), for some reason Sakura finished drinking her poison by the door. Maybe she was conversing with Aoi before locking the door? Then Aoi had an easier time to switch the poison bottle and the protein bottle without Naegi and Mystery Girl noticing. I still can't figure out the motive behind all of this, nor why Aoi wants to put the blame on herself. -
! That doesn't sit right with me, how would she know it was suicide unless sakura had told her about it. And if Sakura told her about it she giving up and broking doesn't make sense to me
! My guess Asahina knew it was suicide because when they entered the room, while Naegi and Kirigiri busy were checking the body she must have seen the poison bottle on the floor then she did the whole switch thing so that it would appear she was the culprit.
Hmm, alright… so let me get this straight.
! This next part is still uncertain, and I don't have any clear evidence to help my theory, but it looks like Sakura sat down after she has been hit by both bottles and then drank the poison to finish herself off, confident that there was enough evidence to prove that either Fukawa or Hagakure attacked and killed her by hitting her on the head.
! Sakura didn't want to get anyone else guilty, her being attacked wasn't something she planned. She wanted everyone to know that she killed herself, that is why she invited three people to see that. When that didn't work she just blocked the door from the inside.
! And the poison bottle probably just fell from her hand and rolled near the door when she died. -
! My guess Asahina knew it was suicide because when they entered the room, while Naegi and Kirigiri busy were checking the body she must have seen the poison bottle on the floor then she did the whole switch thing so that it would appear she was the culprit.
! just because there were an empty bottle of poison doesn't mean suicide is the only logical option a person can think of, not when there are clear indications that other people has been involved and not when you perfectly know the victim has asked three people to meet with her there. Besides, Asahina mentioned she had met with Sakura after the conversation at the infirmary, I'm certain she knew something about Sakura's resolve
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This update was great; one moment I was feeling utterly sympathetic and sad, the next I was laughing hysterically. Ohhhhh Monobear.
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Delicious Togami and Asahina tag team character development
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Monobear, you magnificient bastard.
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I don't get Monobear's logic for this…
wouldn't he prefer Asahina at everyone's throats?
But wow... Asahina's the most brutal person out of the entire group.
Oh yeah, something I've been wondering about for a long time.
Hagakure is a Super Level psychic right? So I'm starting to believe that something stupid he said in the past may come true, and I don't mean one of his predictions... just some random thing he blurted out...or did
! Like maybe Fukawa is the next murderer.
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Well at the beginning of chapter 4 he said that there weren't going to be more murders, and with what happened with Sakura its still true.
So next chapter someone is going to be punished by Monobear for breaking some rule but we will still have a trial because Monobear is a dick. In terms of the rules that isn't really a murder.
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Speaking of being a dick:
Monobear is still a dick: the update
:sad:! I guess chapter 5 is where the 16th student will appear. Everyone is tired of this shit I don't think they will murder anyone now, unless a outsider appears.
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! best execution so far
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Well at the beginning of chapter 4 he said that there weren't going to be more murders, and with what happened with Sakura its still true.
So next chapter someone is going to be punished by Monobear for breaking some rule but we will still have a trial because Monobear is a dick. In terms of the rules that isn't really a murder.
Well nuts, then that leaves for a HUGE range of what Hagakure could possible predict.
Maybe he's the one who left the note, "We must not leave this place" and the pictures scattered around.
He would be the only one dumb enough not to include specifics.
But that's not plausible because his hand writing was said to be very distinct… hm...
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Hagakure is the character im waiting to be evil for some reason, or to be very important to what happened at the school before Monobear came.
I don't know I like the guy but right now he is just kinda there (same with Fukawa/Syo). This update also made me believe that Asahina is going to be one of the people alive at the end.
Its kinda funny how she and Hagakure became two of my favorite characters when they were very bland for me at first.
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I'm quite sure Hagakure is gonna become awesome soon or he wouldn't be alive right now.
Where are you guys getting this awesome fan art from?
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I get most from tumblr because I assumed poeple would hide the spoiler fanart, but nope you will get spoiled on a major plot point (yeah I was spoiled already but not in the way that ruins everything because that was the only thing that I was spoiled but it still sucks, well I knew this was going to happen so its my fault) so if you want to be 100% spoiler free don't search anything on this game, there is lot of fanart of this particular spoiler out there.
But besides that, you sometimes find good stuff there, its amazing how a LP on a forum really made a japanese-only game have this following, there are many people on tumblr that draw fanart and talk about this game.
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! SHSL Despair is a title I would give the mastermind not the 16th student…....unless the mastermind is actually SHSL Hope, now that would be a mindfuck.
! Oh and about what Sakura did, my best guess is that since she would go meet Monobear sometimes she had a key that opened all the locked doors and she gave it to Kirigiri, I don't think Naegi is stupid enough to leave his door unlocked. -
…rofl I just realized when I added my sig just now that it's part of IceBorg's avatar
We both had the same idea
fuuuuck
it's a funny image...
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also
! Mukuro Ikusaba is a hilarious name
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Holy frig, another update so soon!?
! And the 16th student(?) dies!?! Their arms and hands look feminine and the boots are small, too. Unless it's another Chihiro, the person who dies is definitely a female. It's hard to tell with that baggy white coat that's laid on top of the body, though…
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! My theory is that the victim this time is the 16th student…....yep I know im right.
! On a serious note, maybe that is not the 16th student and is another person with the mask. The game is trying to trick us, its Kirigiri or something(I hope not)
! And in that classroom its ketchup of course, its not pink
