I personally hate TimeSkips, like in Naruto, the dude learned Rasengan in like a week, and then boom a three year time skip and all he learned was a freakin' bigger Rasengan. I mean, you have this expectation and it never seems to match up. However, I am also thinking Oda is setting up one, but hopefully it will be a couple of months and not a long one…
Timeskip Predictions
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Will give life altering advice for a cup of frothy cappuccino
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I'd think there'd be a chapter where something like a year passes. Even letting alone the strawhats needing to be stronger, which oda has shown time and again for the last couple of years, it's also a case of how long it should take the strawhats to get back to Saobondy. I'd think it'll take about a year, and the very act of getting back has made them stronger. It just doesn't seem plausible that people like Ussop can get back quickly. Then of course there's the whole "luffys last adventure as a seventeen year old".
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I personally hate TimeSkips, like in Naruto, the dude learned Rasengan in like a week, and then boom a three year time skip and all he learned was a freakin' bigger Rasengan. I mean, you have this expectation and it never seems to match up. However, I am also thinking Oda is setting up one, but hopefully it will be a couple of months and not a long one…
Why is everyone invoking Naruto on timeskips?
Is the population of a One Piece forum really so unfamiliar with Dragonball?
1\. Ace (√), 2\. WB (√), 3\. BB (X), 4\. Perona (√) 5\. Boa (√) 6\. Jimbei (???), 7\. Sabo lives (√), 8\. Timeskip (√)
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@The:
No one said they would come back with enough strength to win Kizaru. But getting 5 times stronger after several months (so that Luffy alone can take out a Pacifista) would not be something I think Oda should do.
So you think they will win that fight if they train for one or two years? In HxH 1 minute fighting equal 1 hour training. Do you how many years have the Admirals been fighting top dog pirates?
So Oda should care more about opinions of ididots than making sense and professional analysis ?
Okay but what we are say is time is not going to help certain SH , lets say oda time skips for 2 years how is that going to help franky , nami , ussop and robin . They way how they fight they could get a power which make sense in really short spam of time. Take franky he found vegapunk house lets say he find some blue print for laser , he put them in he beat a PX how much time do need for that .
I'd think there'd be a chapter where something like a year passes. Even letting alone the strawhats needing to be stronger, which oda has shown time and again for the last couple of years, it's also a case of how long it should take the strawhats to get back to Saobondy. I'd think it'll take about a year, and the very act of getting back has made them stronger. It just doesn't seem plausible that people like Ussop can get back quickly. Then of course there's the whole "luffys last adventure as a seventeen year old".
Dark you really think it would take year for the SH to get back to SB when there whole trip so far has been 9 months.
It might take ussop a year to get back but how about people like robin , sanji , zoro .
Robin could get back there in quick if she gets help from dragon ,certain SH weapons matter more than time.TLG , FFVIIR and Shenmue 3 2015 the E3 of dreams .
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I think a couple of months 6-8 months is reasonable.
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@JERK:
Why is everyone invoking Naruto on timeskips?
Is the population of a One Piece forum really so unfamiliar with Dragonball?
Sorry, haven't read it… But for me another reason is Usopp, his dream is to become, well not a coward, and I for one like to see him develop into one instead of just being told that three years have passed and Usopp is not the coward he used to be... And if the time skip happens and he still remains the same, it will be disappointing and un-usopp like... So, to me nothing good can come from time skip in OP.
Will give life altering advice for a cup of frothy cappuccino
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@dirt:
please explain
To sum it up:
Until now Luffy beat his opponents based heavily on luck.
Crocodile: Serious weakness with water. Beating Luffy half dead two times. In the last fight he almost didn't use his Suna Suna power. Overconfident in his physical ability.
Enel: Oda said Luffy is lucky for being rubber.
Lucci: Instead of turning his head away, that asshole should have given our little Luffy several shigans to make sure he is dead after that Rokuougan.
Moria: if not for 100 shadows given to Luffy, he wouldn't be get punched like 100 times in the face (one punch was enough to send Oz flying, even gear third can't do that I believe). If they fight again we won't know the result.All those guys are strong. But the top dogs are far stronger. If Luffy surpasses those guys with one or two years training, that would be ridiculous, for those guy have decades of trainings, fightings, with numerous kills, experiences. Not to say they are pretty talented. Shanks for example. I believe him to be a natural genius. And if Luffy continues to beat those guy with lucks and sheer will powers, that would be extremely lame.
The New World level is still a mysterious quantity. We have not seen much in the war. How strong are those NW captains? Only Oda knows.
So my point is, even after one year or two of trainings, Luffy would probaly still be far from the level of top dogs like Admirals, Four Emperors. But being able to beat one or two or more Pacifistas alone after that is resonable.
And Oda should not care more about opinions of idiots than making sense. Let the retards whine as they want.
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No, no, I mean please explain the contradictions you've made in the same post.
@The:
Say that the 18 years old WB probaly needed only 2 years or so of trainings to become the strongest man.
@The:
one year training of some random rookies?
Seriously, that would be lame. All their efforts, talents and experiences become meaningless before the might of will powers, lucks and genius?And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.
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Dark you really think it would take year for the SH to get back to SB when there whole trip so far has been 9 months.
It might take ussop a year to get back but how about people like robin , sanji , zoro .
Robin could get back there in quick if she gets help from dragon ,certain SH weapons matter more than time.And you think there's going to be chapters filled with everyone just waiting for those who take longest to get back?
I don't see it, I'd think we'd be presented with them all at once.
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@dirt:
No, no, I mean please explain the contradictions you've made in the same post.
That was sarcasm. WB probaly needed much more time than that. Roger became PK when he was a middle aged man.
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That's not sarcasm.
That's you asking me to consider that perhaps Whitey became the strongest man in two years.
You wanna try continuing that thought?
And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.
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@dirt:
That's not sarcasm.
That's you asking me to consider that perhaps Whitey became the strongest man in two years.
You wanna try continuing that thought?
I don't see it that way.
That was sarcasm.
Say that it takes a genius to understand America has problems need tackling.
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Sorry, haven't read it… But for me another reason is Usopp, his dream is to become, well not a coward, and I for one like to see him develop into one instead of just being told that three years have passed and Usopp is not the coward he used to be... And if the time skip happens and he still remains the same, it will be disappointing and un-usopp like... So, to me nothing good can come from time skip in OP.
What makes you think Oda would be so lazy as to have major major character self actualization take place off camera?
And yet how would you be disappointed by the opposite? Why would dicking around on bug island make Usopp a brave warrior? Makes no sense.
1\. Ace (√), 2\. WB (√), 3\. BB (X), 4\. Perona (√) 5\. Boa (√) 6\. Jimbei (???), 7\. Sabo lives (√), 8\. Timeskip (√)
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As long as we get the crew in the next few weeks real time they can skip it however they wish. Although I'd prefer it to be a few weeks/months.
Can't see any reason for it to be a year or more.
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I dont know if there will be a time skip anymore. Technically, they are all getting stronger in some way while Luffy was trying to rescue Ace. Even luffy has improved, as he is starting to use Haki more often though still without realizing it. I am sure no time skip is going to be necessary and any improvements will be explained after they reunite. If a time skip occurs, it is going to be any unnecessary journey that Oda does not want to explain, such as going from Kuja Island to the Shaboady but knowing Oda he will probably just do some small filler arc like the fight with the Foxy Pirates to pass the time for the journey.
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And you think there's going to be chapters filled with everyone just waiting for those who take longest to get back?
I don't see it, I'd think we'd be presented with them all at once.
Well Oda could always let some of them get back and then they set out to look for the rest . Then there also the problem of what other world powers going to doing in that year , main one being BB.
TLG , FFVIIR and Shenmue 3 2015 the E3 of dreams .
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@The:
I don't see it that way.
That was sarcasm.
Say that it takes a genius to understand America has problems need tackling.
That was sarcasm.If you are still confused, i will edit my post, from "say that" to "don't tell me".
LOL.As long as we get the crew in the next few weeks real time they can skip it however they wish. Although I'd prefer it to be a few weeks/months.
Can't see any reason for it to be a year or more.
then read the thread.
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@The:
I don't see it that way.
That was sarcasm.
Say that it takes a genius to understand America has problems need tackling.
That was sarcasm.@The:
If you are still confused, i will edit my post, from "say that" to "don't tell me".
LOL.Neither are sarcasm or even ways to start a sarcastic statement.
You must be really smart.
That was sarcasm.
now get out
And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.
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Well Oda could always let some of them get back and then they set out to look for the rest .
No, they all have vivre cards for a reason.
Then there also the problem of what other world powers going to doing in that year , main one being BB.
Not really. WG fights revolutionaries & pirates, expands into the new world
Teach goes to the new world to become pirate king. A year isn't enough time to do that, he still has to deal with the Emperors. -
@The:
then read the thread.
Did. Biggest waste of time. Like I said. Couldn't care less if they skip it as long as we get the crew back soon. I'd prefer it to not be a LONG time skip since we pretty much already know how some of them are getting back.
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@dirt:
Neither are sarcasm or even ways to start sarcasm.
You must be really smart.
That was sarcasm.
now get out
No I won't.
"Say that" is a way to start sarcasm in my language.
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Well Oda could always let some of them get back and then they set out to look for the rest . Then there also the problem of what other world powers going to doing in that year , main one being BB.
BB would likely assert himself in the New World, and maybe become an Emperor.
If he's the final villain type Oda's setting him up to be he needs to be vaulted out of reach.
Also enjoying the irony of Sea getting his stuffing knocked in by a girl.
She has surpassed Boodle clearly! -
This is English. "Say that" in English is a way to convey that you are asking someone to consider something.
And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.
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@dirt:
This is English. "Say that" in English is a way to convey that you are asking someone to consider something.
So I am extremely stupid if sometimes I confuse between the two languages. Thank you. I will note that.
You must be really smart. No sarcasm. Why can't we be friends? -
@dirt:
This is English. "Say that" in English is a way to convey that you are asking someone to consider something.
Could you kindly drop the pestering? It doesn't take a grammatical genius to figure out that what he was saying, in its context, was sarcasm. Beforehand, I could tell that what he was saying was sarcasm so there really shouldn't be an issue here.
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@The:
You must be really smart. No sarcasm. Why can't we be friend?
Because there are two of you, and it would require a plural form to work.
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@Uncle:
Could you kindly drop the pestering? It doesn't take a grammatical genius to figure out that what he was saying, in its context, was sarcasm.
Apparently it does since I have to know his language as well, remember the fact that English is his second language, and take into account that he may mix the two together.
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@JERK:
Because there are two of you, and it would require a plural form to work.
I thought "friend" means a single soul in two/many bodies?
Just kidding.
There is no plural or singular suffixes in my language so it is a mistake that many people make. Like Japanese.
So let this thread become "To bash The Sea's Engrish or not to".
Engrish is sarcasm.
Thank you.
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Time skip sounds cool, a month/years, doesn't matter. A little change in the luffy's art or something would be great (taller?) because I think it's just about time anyhow. The series have been running for a lonnng time now so I think the art refresh would be great. And besides, it's been too long for the crew to have been separated with each other. Too many fans are crying in their beds already. AND, last but the most important piece, it's ODA-sensei who's pulling this off, so off-screen powerups or plot twists or what not, I'm sure he could take care of it beautifully.
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While I believe there will be a timeskip, there's no way it will be Dragonball or even Naruto lengthy.
Some of the characters will just become too old for them to be so jovial and goofy. I don't see Robin as a 30+ year old woman or Franky as a 40+ year old man. I know that appearance wise they'd probably be the same in how old they look, but still while it's not necessarily bad it also doesn't feel very Strawhat like to have a member entering middle age and a stern 30 year old woman who would feel even further from the crew's goofiness in her 4th decade.
Now I know Brooke is 80 but he doesn't really apply because he is insane and does not show his age. His age isn't really a problem.
While this is not a very solid reason to be against a multi-year timeskip, I do think that marketing and product placement and demographics, as well as more importantly character dynamics, are things oda takes into consideration.
Also, the crew has learned to grow extremely fast while being on the move and having to adapt to the circumstances. In fact it is the need to adapt to survive that makes them improve so quickly. I think that a year of seperation is more than enough, bordering on too much time to adapt to their situation and better themselves. Any more and the level of challenge offered by their destinations would peak and so would they.
Additionally, the Strawhats have a strong bond. Regardless of how much they need to improve, forcing them to be apart too long when they are obviously itching to get back together wouldn't be natural for the characters and the crew dynamic that we have witnessed. They may know that they need to improve, but that doesn't justify that they, as characters, won't seek each other out as soon as they are able to, as they are compelled to reunite as soon as possible due to their bond.
I would say that this timeskip will take as long as it takes for the strawhats to overcome their difficulties, make friends with the locals and/or get sufficient help so as to get their asses back to Shabaody.
I cannot for the life of me imagine this timeskip to last more than a year in One Piece time.
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On the eve of spoilerificaiton, you will wait until you remember it's break week.
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A time skip.
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Time skip sounds cool, a month/years, doesn't matter. A little change in the luffy's art or something would be great (taller?) because I think it's just about time anyhow.
A time skip.
I wanna see them grow older and taller. At least a year.No, this would undo me. A poor girl like me wouldn't be able to handle it.
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[/hide]And when this manga closes out, and Luffy's arm stretches back to deliver that last punch, I wanna feel the crunch of the dream coming true.
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While I believe there will be a timeskip, there's no way it will be Dragonball or even Naruto lengthy.
Dragonball had very different timeskip lengths throughout.
Some were just a year, others were seven years.Some of the characters will just become too old for them to be so jovial and goofy. I don't see Robin as a 30+ year old woman or Franky as a 40+ year old man. I know that appearance wise they'd probably be the same in how old they look, but still while it's not necessarily bad it also doesn't feel very Strawhat like to have a member entering middle age and a stern 30 year old woman who would feel even further from the crew's goofiness in her 4th decade.
28 isn't all that different from 32. And you must not know so many adults who hang out in "younger" fields.
If you're at college see any of your older teachers in creative fields.
Enthusiasm doesn't die with age unless actual jading events occur.While this is not a very solid reason to be against a multi-year timeskip, I do think that marketing and product placement and demographics, as well as more importantly character dynamics, are things oda takes into consideration.
All that would benefit marketing. Big news and events like this draw press and attention. I mean hell, Naruto's big timeskip was pretty clearly an attempt to shoot some life in the sick patient.
And timeskips sure as shit didn't slow down Dragonball.
Additionally, the Strawhats have a strong bond. Regardless of how much they need to improve, forcing them to be apart too long when they are obviously itching to get back together wouldn't be natural for the characters and the crew dynamic that we have witnessed. They may know that they need to improve, but that doesn't justify that they, as characters, won't seek each other out as soon as they are able to, as they are compelled to reunite as soon as possible due to their bond.
Don't you think that urge to improve would supercede the simple one to see eachother soon?
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@dirt:
No, this would undo me. A poor girl like me wouldn't be able to handle it.
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GASP! YOU'RE RIGHT!
CHOPPER WILL BE OF LEGAL AGE!
Robin wouldn't get arrested.
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I'll get my coat.
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Said it many times but yeah I think a timeskip is imminent, if I had to guess a length of time then I could see anything from 6 months to 2 years (just an arbitrary highest timespan that I'd see within reason). The reasons are pretty simple, first and foremost is that some of the Strawhats are scattered w/o a way back pretty much across the globe, so a timeskip could provide the reasonable time needed for them to regroup, secondly from an in story stand point it'd give enough time passing in for all hell to fully break loose as well as possibly give Oda leeway in the story to establish new villains who made their uprise off camera during the timeskip. I can also see this as Oda's qay of avoiding training arcs and it could be done as easily as giving a narration box stating during or after the timeskip that each Strawhat grew stronger over time during their journeys to regroup. Lastly (a shitty reason but it's worth throwing out there) I can totally see Oda doing a timeskip as a homage to Toriyama.
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Imagine Nami's + Robin's breast increasement in a one year-timeskip. ^u^
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I'm for Time Skip.
I'm honestly not a big fan of time skip, but I'll deal with it.
Like life, but without the skipping.I'd like to see a time skip, which is a good excuse, to explain why and how Luffy became stronger and wiser rather than him become Pirate King by one-night stands with random power-ups, luck, and/or complete bullshit.
I wouldn't even look at Gol D. Roger the way he should be. A "King".Also, that would set a bad example to the kids.
If Oda pulls it off like Toriyama did with Son Goku.
I will be extremely happy and proud to breathe at the same time a masterpiece was written.GASP! YOU'RE RIGHT!
CHOPPER WILL BE OF LEGAL AGE!
Robin wouldn't get arrested.
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I'll get my coat.
Jesus Christ… enough of your dirty reindeer games.
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I think this is a good opportunity for a big time skip - like some already said, the war created a new age which is fully visible in a couple of years, and it would be best if the story continued in a new somehow stable context.
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I think there will be a timeskip. But I don't see any point in making it longer than a month. A month allows for the story to progress, for chaos in the New World to spread, for the Strawhats to regroup, for Luffy to learn the basics of Haki, for other Strawhats to have some adventure of their own, gives Oda excuse to play a little with their character design, also gives him a reasonable enough period for them to have powered up a little.
A Month fulfils all conditions.
What would be the purpose of a longer timeskip? What will it benefit either the story or the characters or… anything really? Not to mention that if you make it a year or longer the whole "War" motive would lose its sharpness. The world as a whole would have probably forgotten that war and moved on to other concerns. Wouldn't that kinda defeat the purpose of the last two story arks? Yes, strawhats are not on yonkou level right now and that would mean that they will get crushed in a calm and established New World where every yonkou has their territory but the aftermath of the war gives them an opportunity to enter a more chaotic New World where they will have the chance to level up before fighting some of the more serious forces.
A month allows Oda to make any changes he needs to make and is what makes sense with regards to basic story progression.
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I think Oda said in one of the interviews Greg translated that he really admired those authors that could keep the story going without a time skip. At first I was all for a long time skip, but I've become more conservative and voted for the short monthly skip if there are any, enough to get the crew together at Fishman Island anyway.
The only bummer is that Luffy becomes Pirate King in a year or two, and it just makes the whole thing unbelievable in the context of the story when looked at macroscopically. But I'm ready to say who cares to that, I'll gladly overlook something like that if the adventures stay fun. But I do wish Oda comes up with something fun and believable.
To ysn:
The only thing that will bug me about monthly is what I wrote in my second paragraph. It's been brought up numerous times, the exhange between Sea and andy on pg. 3 of this thread, but that's the greatest flaw I see in a small time skip.
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i always thought this would eventually happen. I remember that the log poses take time to adjust to the next island, what if it takes a year or two for the log to adjust from fishman island to the next. while everyone is training, and powering up.
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I can't quite say what I THINK is going to happen, but I DO want a long (years) timeskip to happen. This allows a lot of changes that could be really fun to take place. On top of that, I want to see a timeskip actually handled well, which I know Oda would if he did it.
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@JERK:
What makes you think Oda would be so lazy as to have major major character self actualization take place off camera?
And yet how would you be disappointed by the opposite? Why would dicking around on bug island make Usopp a brave warrior? Makes no sense.
You are not following me, here is what I think. In One Piece Time, so much is happening so fast that if you think about it, its pretty unbelievable how much the SH have grown in the one year they have been adventuring together. It just feels like they are capable of keeping up with this pace. Imagine a two year time skip happens right now. You would expect everyone to grow at least the same amount if not twice, right?? If this happens you miss out on a lot, if it doesn't happen, it just seems out of pace. At least thats what I feel.
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This has been by far the most physically exhausting arc for Luffy, so it goes without saying that he will need the longest recovery time up to this point. [snip] I am basically suggesting the overall recovery time could end with a narrator's box saying "several weeks later" or something, which could allow it to either start back up on Luffy's birthday or have passed it. Weeks, maybe months. Anything more than a year would be too much though, I think.
Another reason I thought this could work well is because it would allow chaos to build at Fishman Island. We have a lot of foreshadow for things to be worse in Fishman Island than it would normally have been, and with Whitebeard's death, it should certainly happen. While that could happen almost immediately, I think "several weeks later" would allow for a much more believable problem to brew. Not to mention it would allow Oda to give some status updates from the Marines and New World pirate crews.
^^ Here's a snippet of mine from December; I suppose it summarizes my stance well enough. I figure there will be a shorter skip of several weeks ~ a few months, allowing for development throughout the world. A skip that enters the year+ range would take the crew too far out of the present story. Given how much Oda has accomplished in such a short period of time (since the start of the story), I don't see a need for the larger time skip. On the other hand, anything below "several weeks" would be moving the story along a little too fast.
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The kind of time-skip Oda likes is almost like a whole generation skip, which I don't see happening in OP. Goku grew up in DB but that manga never had strong connective themes weaving character and event together like in OP, and a skip works against those themes.
I can, however, see a time-skip up to a year happening, as Luffy is badly in need of a level up. When he first left his home town, he steamrolled all of his opponents, and continued to do so through Enies Lobby. He's only just meeting his limit now, so it would be a good time to train Conviction (Haki) and vulcanization, if he actually does somehow manage to eat Ace's Mera Mera Fruit.
It would be a good way for the non-Zoro crew to train up as well. Ivankov is going to Kamabaka, and Ivankov is a pretty darn good fighter, so he's in a perfect position to train Sanji. Franky, being in Vegapunk's hometown, can spend some time upgrading himself - Zoro can marry Perona (LOL) and battle some ancient civilizations or something.
Then, as an 18 year old, Luffy could set sail and recover his old crew, then descend into the Fishman Isle with Jimbei.
A year's time would also allow a "worst case scenario" where the 11 Supernovas have established themselves as powers in the New World, as opposed to a chaotic free-for-all that would naturally occur with them fighting one another right now. Perhaps, even, the next generation Shichibukai.
If we repeat the formula of the first arc, with passing Red Line = Reverse Mountain, it would be Luffy steamrolling everyone again and eventually, someone close to him like Shanks getting in a near death scenario. Except, instead of failing from being too weak like he did this time, he succeeds, and thus opens the way to the final battle with Blackbeard at Raftel.
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lol Haki
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What brenen said is pretty much what I was thinking. ElectricField, I agree that is would kinda suck to have Luffy PK right now (we've seen he's nowhere near the uber-gramps likes of Akainu etc.), but that doesn't really have to happen. We are talking about the logical continuation of the story right now. But we are only about halfway through the manga. Anything can happen in the future - a long stay in one island, a longer timeskip, whatever. Its up to Oda and he could make anything happen/work. Right now a shorter timeskip (few weeks at least-few months at most) is the most logical for me.
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Peoples are mistaking about what they would like and what will happen. No times skip. All of this is just a fucking buzz that only noobs can believe. Internet…
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@People:
Peoples are mistaking about what they would like and what will happen. No times skip. All of this is just a fucking buzz that only noobs can believe. Internet…
There's a lot of people with a lot of insight on this manga so instead of calling them noobs how about you make a legitimate argument or post in a more respectable manner. This isn't a naruto forum.
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Yes, I think there will be some type of timeskip. I really don't care if there is one or not because either way, Oda is going to ensure that it is done correctly.
The main reason why there would be a timeskip is because Oda had the crew seperated for a reason, some of them are not even in the Grand Line anymore and I don't see several chapters devoted to each member, detailing their journey back to Saboady Archipelago.
To me, the separation of the crew is the only legitimate reason to have a timeskip. I don't think the "dawn" of a new era has anything to do with it. Oda has plenty of time to detail the changes throughout the world as a result of the Marineford Arc.
Also, why do people think that Luffy is badly in need of a 'Power Up'? Not everyone in the New World is going to be Yonkou Level. One can argue that the Straw Hats weren't ready for the Grand Line but they got stronger as they progressed through it.
