Red-Flag Sellers: Where NOT to Buy OP Merch

Arei

Toyslogic is official, and I have bought an official POP from them that is stickerless.

It seems that they never get the stickers >_> It's really irresponsible to sell them without the stickers. I thought when I bought Mihawk it was just a one-time fluke ordeal they didn't get in their stickers but it sounds like they constantly don't have stickers.

The POPs sold that have or are SUPPOSED to have the Funimation stickers aren't any different from the japanese ones. They are sent directly over from the manufactuer in Japan and instead of the Toei sticker, which shows they are licensed for distribution in Japan or other parts of Asia, they are meant to be stuck with the Funimation sticker that shows they are liscensed for sale in North America.

No idea why they are irresponsible about the stickers, because RightStuf, whomever they get their POPs from, have sold POPs with the Funimation sticker on them. But the POPs Toyslogic sell are indeed official, and they let me check over Mihawk before I bought him (got him at a con, not online).

go_jx

toyslogic told me that their items comes directly from china…. thats why they do not have the stickers..

oh well... thats a dodgy seller..

sephirona

That does sound dodgy, but also keep in mind that basically every official figurine these days is manufactured in China. heheh

Edit:

Outcome of my Paypal case.

! Hello –-
! We have concluded our investigation into your case and have decided in your
favor.
! We were able to recover $4.50 USD and this amount has been credited to you.
Please allow five business days for this adjustment to be posted.
! If you are due any additional funds, we will make our best effort to
recover the balance from the seller.
! If the seller's account has insufficient funds to complete the refund owed
to you, please be assured that we will take appropriate action against the
seller's account, which may include limitation of the seller's account
privileges.

And if she doesn't have enough, I'm just going to file a chargeback. =w= Thank you, PayPal.

Jejune

Excellent to hear, I hope everyone else gets their money back from her too.

No Maam

@ninth:

Don't buy from eBay seller gorgor216,
Looks like all his merchandise is bootleg, insanely cheap prices.
I also sent him a message asking about the authenticity of his One Piece Jingi-Nai Time (no Justice Time) figures since I'm desperately looking for them and this was the reply I got:

I'm not completely sure what he means in the second half of the message, but not original = bootleg

He means it's basicly 100 % the same even if it is a bootleg .

I dealt with chinese companies before so I can sorta make out their quasi english by now .

sephirona

"Sep 7, 2010 Credit to Credit Card Completed -$4.50 USD"
Got my money back. Hope those of you who were able to open PayPal cases get yours back too. :/ And same for those of you who are still owed money by her.

icel

So was that a chargeback, or did she actually have money in her paypal account? still a noob to this

Liann

@sephirona:

And if she doesn't have enough, I'm just going to file a chargeback. =w= Thank you, PayPal.

I just got the same message back on my claim too.

sephirona

I checked my credit card account and it says I received 4.50 in a refund, so I guess she did have money in her PayPal. I don't know how much total, though. :|

@Liann:

I just got the same message back on my claim too.

Good to hear! Hope as many of us can get our money back as possible.

iomi

hello everyone,
i registered to this forum just for this thread~ it helped me in my buying process XD and it actually made me be careful to whom i should pay for TnT''

so i just wanted to mention this website i ordered from before, http://www.imageanime.com/ i pre-ordered a canaan fig last year and received it when it got released, the figure does look authentic ( box + paint job) and they offer one piece prices for expensive prices ( though it might be worth it if most of them are out of the market) but i'm not sure if i should get P.O.P figures from them, they seem reliable but a first experience might not be everything. they have been established since 1992 and they do have their own store.

anyway what do you think? did anyone try them out before?

Xajen

@iomi:

hello everyone,
i registered to this forum just for this thread~ it helped me in my buying process XD and it actually made me be careful to whom i should pay for TnT''

so i just wanted to mention this website i ordered from before, http://www.imageanime.com/ i pre-ordered a canaan fig last year and received it when it got released, the figure does look authentic ( box + paint job) and they offer one piece prices for expensive prices ( though it might be worth it if most of them are out of the market) but i'm not sure if i should get P.O.P figures from them, they seem reliable but a first experience might not be everything. they have been established since 1992 and they do have their own store.

anyway what do you think? did anyone try them out before?

They don't really have anything good that's out of print, and their outrageous prices immediately makes them a useless site since we can visit any other with the same items for significantly less plus they're trusted.

sephirona

@iomi:

hello everyone,
i registered to this forum just for this thread~ it helped me in my buying process XD and it actually made me be careful to whom i should pay for TnT''

so i just wanted to mention this website i ordered from before, http://www.imageanime.com/ i pre-ordered a canaan fig last year and received it when it got released, the figure does look authentic ( box + paint job) and they offer one piece prices for expensive prices ( though it might be worth it if most of them are out of the market) but i'm not sure if i should get P.O.P figures from them, they seem reliable but a first experience might not be everything. they have been established since 1992 and they do have their own store.

anyway what do you think? did anyone try them out before?

They're a legit store, based here in New York City on 46th street or something. I've visited them plenty of times. When I was less smart about buying online I bought my (legit) Rob Lucci POP from them, but like Xajen said, their stuff tends to be very overpriced so I'd only use them as a last resort.

iomi

they ARE over priced, i know, but i'm currently looking for Nico robin figure but i can't seem to find her on any other site i jump to and when i found her on ebay, it worries me who to trust (and some have the same prices as imageanime like 110 USD+) , especially if the seller is from hong kong =w=''

there is another site i found http://www.etoys-shop.com/ that also got its own ebay store and it's pretty popular ( it resides in hong kong as well) their prices are reasonable but how can i know they'd be selling authentic figures?
i know i'm a noob ;_;'' , my strong edition collection is almost completed ><" ( i got most of them from HLJ)

xthorn

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xthorn

I was going to nominate seller dendenkwok for the trustworthy ebay seller list due to a good experience with legit products that I had from him, but on further inspection of his store it looks like he sells bootlegs too. It's kind of easy to tell if you're an experienced buyer because for the bootlegs he uses little low-res pictures instead of the high quality stock pics he uses for real stuff, and he omits the "original product made by [company]" line in his bootleg listings too (though he says "in original box", which is shady and seems intentionally misleading.) So whatever list you guys end up putting him on is fine with me, just thought I'd mention it.

No Maam

I guess you guys only want to avoid paying as much for a bootleg as for an original .

Because I'm prety fine with botlegs as long as they work . That's how I got most of my PSX library .

And then there's the fact I use emulators and stuff from romnation .

sephirona

@No:

I guess you guys only want to avoid paying as much for a bootleg as for an original .

Because I'm prety fine with botlegs as long as they work . That's how I got most of my PSX library .

And then there's the fact I use emulators and stuff from romnation .

While I don't necessarily support using roms and other ripped files, this isn't exactly the same thing. Bootlegged figures are generally of far lower quality than normal figures. They look worse, don't last as long, and may even be dangerous because they weren't made with the safety regulations set for official figures. That is, they might use cheaper or more toxic types of plastics. Even though bootlegged figures are usually much less expensive, I still wouldn't get them anyway.

Nia

@sephirona:

While I don't necessarily support using roms and other ripped files, this isn't exactly the same thing. Bootlegged figures are generally of far lower quality than normal figures. They look worse, don't last as long, and may even be dangerous because they weren't made with the safety regulations set for official figures. That is, they might use cheaper or more toxic types of plastics. Even though bootlegged figures are usually much less expensive, I still wouldn't get them anyway.

Seconded.
All the bootlegs I've seen up until now were horrbile, I wouldn't spend a penny for those. Ever seen all those Luffy bootlegs, like the child POP, the Ichiban Kuji Strong World/Gear Second? Scary shit, I tell you.
Plus, I want to support my fandom and therefore only want to buy legit figures.

Cyber-Robin

Ok. So I'm pissed off with AmiAmi atm.

Got seller didn't pay full postage card through the letter box today. Later told it was also for customs. While customs I can understand. AmiAmi not paying full price for their shipping is ridiculous

Another £13.23 paid out for Gigant Battle.

Very Angry letter sent to AmiAmi XD

enel16

If I live in Aus can I buy from ebay.de?

snooky

Enel, that depends on if the seller is willing to ship worldwide and accepts paypal.
Most people are scared about expensive shipping, paypal fees and other problems.

Kitsune Inferno

http://www.ioffer.com/i/one-piece-animation-dvd-season-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-11-157995735

Can anyone confirm if this is fake? I'm 97% sure One Piece has not been released in this format. The box arts are definitely fake too

Duomaxwe

@xthorn:

I was going to nominate seller dendenkwok for the trustworthy ebay seller list due to a good experience with legit products that I had from him, but on further inspection of his store it looks like he sells bootlegs too. It's kind of easy to tell if you're an experienced buyer because for the bootlegs he uses little low-res pictures instead of the high quality stock pics he uses for real stuff, and he omits the "original product made by [company]" line in his bootleg listings too (though he says "in original box", which is shady and seems intentionally misleading.) So whatever list you guys end up putting him on is fine with me, just thought I'd mention it.

I was looking at him on ebay and decided to check here to see if he'd been mentioned, so I'm glad to see you say that.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Bandai-One-Piece-Figuarts-Whitebeard-Edward-Newgate-New-/130428495185?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5e24e551

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Banpresto-One-Piece-Bartholomew-Kuma-Boa-Hancock-Figure-/130432922000?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5e687190

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Banpresto-One-Piece-DX-Crocodile-Figure-Seven-Warlords-/130424568615?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5de8fb27

So these items for example, are you saying safe or not safe? Whitebeard seems cheaper than I'd expect.

Duomaxwe

Getting input on this much slower than I would've expected.

ReDDragon

looks save to me allthough i never used that store. 2 of 3 arent even released yet and you (almost) never see sellers that have bootlegs up for preorder.

And Whitebeard is Figuarts Zero, they are cheap to begin with. He is 2900 yen on Amiami.

Duomaxwe

Yeah I realised that afterwords, I thought it was one of the more expensive Whitebeards you normally see.

I ended up ordering a Boa Hancock, though I've never bought this type of merchandise before it'll be new to me either way, when it finally arrives.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270635934595&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Though what about this?

This one does seem too cheap.

xthorn

@Duomaxwe:

I was looking at him on ebay and decided to check here to see if he'd been mentioned, so I'm glad to see you say that.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Bandai-One-Piece-Figuarts-Whitebeard-Edward-Newgate-New-/130428495185?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5e24e551

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Banpresto-One-Piece-Bartholomew-Kuma-Boa-Hancock-Figure-/130432922000?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5e687190

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Banpresto-One-Piece-DX-Crocodile-Figure-Seven-Warlords-/130424568615?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5de8fb27

So these items for example, are you saying safe or not safe? Whitebeard seems cheaper than I'd expect.

They all look safe to me. Figuarts Whitebeard has the "This is original product from Bandai" line on it, which all his legit stuff seems to have. As others have said, the other two items you link to aren't even out yet (they're just preorder listings) but he seems to sell only authentic copies of newer stuff so I don't think you'll have any worries about preordering something and then getting a fake as soon as it comes out.

He does charge a sizable markup (it cost me $59 to get Jimbei/Dofla DX shipped to the U.S.) but if you have no other options and want something recently released I think this seller is a viable option.

For the record, his bootleg listings look like this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Banpresto-One-Piece-DX-Grandline-Men-3-Mihawk-Figure-/130424665760?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e5dea76a0

Really low-res stock art, way too cheap, been out on the market for months, and the line about it being from the original manufacturer is absent. So I think I'd call dendenkwok trustworthy as long as you know how to tell his bootleg listings apart from the real thing.

BTW, those GLMs you linked to are 100% fake. Listing is nothing but weasel words skirting around the fact of their not being original.

go_jx

is toy28hk from ebay safe?

Please remove Inx_station from red flag seller.

communication have been great with him so far and items received are original.
seems like an A class ebay seller to me.

more info:
http://www.apforums.net/showpost.php?p=1889499&postcount=5093

Elisabeth Heart

Maybe I should post this here :o

Ace super DX's bootleg spotted on eBay (hisoka1026).

!

Nia

@Eli:

Maybe I should post this here :o

Ace super DX's bootleg spotted on eBay (hisoka1026).

! http://lh5.ggpht.com/_EV9MZWAQgKc/TKIrXcdhS8I/AAAAAAAAAjc/6SmX1gC167U/410477352_o.jpg

It has a base … now isn't that nice.

Xajen

@Nia:

It has a base … now isn't that nice.

I hate how they didn't include a base… They go to town on detail but skip out on the base. They could have put peg inserts in the boots and provide a base so we at least have a choice of how to display it.

I'm nervous about letting it stand without some sort of prevention from falling. I'm going to try to get a display case now with almost perfect measurement matches to the figure so he can't fall.

Dragonxpiece

so many bootlegs wow, im scared as hell to buy merchandise these days, specially WTF, and now POP. since im not as pro buying one piece.. quite scared of not spotting really good bootlegs hahha

Cabanaman

I've bought 2 POP's from Anime King on ebay and they were both at a good price with good cheap shipping inside the US.

http://stores.ebay.com/VISIT-Anime-King-DOT-Net

Dragonxpiece

and well hre is another RED FLAG

http://cgi.ebay.com/ONE-PIECE-STRONG-WORLD-BANPRESTO-8-PCS-FIGURE-VOLUME-1_W0QQitemZ130384072220QQcategoryZ73576QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3907.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSI%252BSIC%26itu%3DUCI%252BRTU%252BUA%252BFICS%252BMRU-11232%252BIA%252BUFI%252BDDSIC%26otn%3D8%26pmod%3D280434722563%252B280556873000%252B320578633683%26po%3DLWI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D5307473098890666283

he says they are banpresto , yea friking right LOL

Duomaxwe

Ugh I believe Banpresto did create those small toys.

Nia

@Duomaxwe:

Ugh I believe Banpresto did create those small toys.

The real ones, yes. But if Banpresto had any saying in the making of those cheap, awful looking copies …

sephirona

Woah. They're not allowed to do that. Most bootleg sellers are very quiet about not writing Banpresto on their listings, but that guy is blatantly trying to trick people. How does he have 3k feedback? .-.

enel16

http://www.etoys-shop.com/ - are they legit?

dragonfruit

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Xajen

@dragonfruit:

I personally have dealt with Toyslogic numerous times, and have had no problems with them what so ever. Toyslogic is legit! I can vouch for them.

Are they at least on time with everyone else on pre-orders?

icel

! We have concluded our investigation into your case and have decided in your
favor.
! You have indicated that a partial refund of 0 would be satisfactory.
! If the seller's account has insufficient funds to complete the refund owed
to you, please be assured that we will take appropriate action against the
seller's account, which may include limitation of the seller's account
privileges.

Wait, what? ._. I don't remember indicating anywhere that I'd like no money back? I don't think they even asked that? D:
And it looks so much different than the email Sephirona got, ughh.

sephirona

@icel:

! We have concluded our investigation into your case and have decided in your
favor.
! You have indicated that a partial refund of 0 would be satisfactory.
! If the seller's account has insufficient funds to complete the refund owed
to you, please be assured that we will take appropriate action against the
seller's account, which may include limitation of the seller's account
privileges.

Wait, what? ._. I don't remember indicating anywhere that I'd like no money back? I don't think they even asked that? D:
And it looks so much different than the email Sephirona got, ughh.

Ugh…dammit. x_x I'm not sure what that means but it could mean that she no longer has funds in her account? I'd call your credit card company right away and just file a chargeback, that's the last course of action I was planning on doing anyway. I'm pretty sure it's been 30 days since you paid, cause there might have been a policy of not beginning chargeback procedures till 30 days passed IF she didn't provide a receiving date. Which is stupid beyond belief since no seller ever provides an exact receiving date anyways. -.- I basically told PayPal I had email evidence to prove I never got my stuff, and I wrote about how she had kept pushing back the mailing date with fake excuses.

I'm sorry ;-; Just explain everything to the representative who picks up, including that several other people have had the same problem >_>

Jejune

Wtf, when is a refund of 0 ever satisfactory?

sephirona

I vaguely remember some part of the claim filing form asking you to verify how much you want back and I remember typing in something about wanting a full refund of 4.50, but…I don't get why it wouldn't be obvious to PayPal. I don't understand how they'd think we only want part of our stolen money back. -.-

I'll go check my claim report and see later. :|

icel

Shit… >_< I usually check things really thoroughly before submitting them, I must have done it while I was half-asleep or something..

And I have a debit card, not a credit card. (Have a huge thing against those) Which pretty much means I'm screwed. ._. Ugh. Fuck you, Paypal.

DonquixoteDoflamingo

cant trust toyslogic, they had some toothpaste on my lucci pop, they dont have the the toei stickers and when i asked them they said they would ship their sticker yet its been over two months when i asked them again and they said there working on it,
just dont feel safe spending $ you work so hard on for a figure that doesnt seem official, bad service overall
just my 2 cents

on the otherhand ami ami and hobbylink have great reps, had a great time buying from them, missing the money though :(

Xajen

@DonquixoteDoflamingo:

cant trust toyslogic, they had some toothpaste on my lucci pop, they dont have the the toei stickers and when i asked them they said they would ship their sticker yet its been over two months when i asked them again and they said there working on it,
just dont feel safe spending $ you work so hard on for a figure that doesnt seem official, bad service overall
just my 2 cents

on the otherhand ami ami and hobbylink have great reps, had a great time buying from them, missing the money though :(

Really? It had toothpaste on it? That's disgusting.

go_jx

@DonquixoteDoflamingo:

they dont have the the toei stickers and when i asked them they said they would ship their sticker yet its been over two months when i asked them again and they said there working on it,
just dont feel safe spending $ you work so hard on for a figure that doesnt seem official, bad service overall
just my 2 cents

on the otherhand ami ami and hobbylink have great reps, had a great time buying from them, missing the money though :(

agree!
I've yet to receive my sticker for POP nami SW v1. Its been so long…:sad:

klet

@icel:

And I have a debit card, not a credit card. (Have a huge thing against those) Which pretty much means I'm screwed. ._. Ugh. Fuck you, Paypal.

Even if it is a debit card, to use it with pp, it'd have to have a cc logo, right? You can still do a charge back with those. I did one years ago when someone sent me the wrong dvd off half.com.

Nia

Just a little heads-up for people intending to preorder something from kakalolo12/toy_cardseller/dragonball_seller2008 (same shop) on eBay.

I preordered, among three other figures, a HSCF Luffy and a MBH Luffy, both set to be released in September. Because I was wary, I contacted eBay and told them that the release date was outside of the buyer's protection. They answered me it was fine because I told them about it and that I could contact them any time if problems come up.
And guess what, I haven't seen a single figure. Plus, the seller did not bother to answer my mails.
So, yesterday, I contacted eBay again and told them about it. Within one hour they answered me, saying they cancelled all my preorders and will send me my money back in the next two, three days.

My sister still wants to wait for her MBH Zoro, so that one is still an open preorder I have with them. We'll see …

I never had this sort of problem with figures that were NOT preorder items. Once, the shop made me wait two weeks before even sending something out (and bluntly lied, saying that they sent it out one week earlier), but that's just ridiculous.