@Verilance:
obviously we have someone else who hasn't been reading the chapters that have happened after the war if he thinks the navy has unlimited resources
sure that is why the had to send reinforcements from south blue to west blue.
cuz they just have so many ships available on stand by
yep exactly, nice how people quote some parts repeatedly to make a point and yet ignore whole pages of stuff showing this stuff off.
@Super:
Since when are the marine seeking out confrontations with Yonkous ?
Level6 prisoners escaping has been erased from the record by the WG.
Besides the marines can take it out on AL anytime they want while Hancock is gone with her 18year old "lover". A week after she's gone, a month, a year. Whenever they're ready
If Hancock betrays them, Amazon Lily will be attacked.
That is stated as a fact in the manga
Deny it all you want. It still won't make a difference.
see i think this is what most are arguing. not whether Amazon Lily can survive or not, just basically stating that because they can take it out whenever if Hancock is gone and due to resources being used elsewheres that they may wait a week or a month or whatever time. There is no bases for your guy's assumptino that it will be attacked asap.
as for the red, they did thsi war for a reason. not to just kill whitebeard, but to end the priate age. they will be goin gafter and trying to end this. sure they erased the prisoner from newspapers, but doesn't mean they aren't going to try and capture kill them. they just don't want the public to know about it. you can bet sure as hell they are out searching for them big time right now
@Shift:
The difference is, Jimbei has already been marked as a traitor. Whether the WG goes after FI, or leaves it to marauders, it's current position is set. Hancock, as far as we currently know, is presumably still on the WG's good side, her actions seemingly misread or unseen. If she joins Luffy now and gets found out, AL is forfeit. In short, FI = currently in danger, AL = NOT currently in danger.
This also means that if Hancock stays in AL, or at least avoids being found in cahoots with Luffy, all will be well. In Jimbei's case, it's already known he was on Luffy's side in the war; them joining forces more permanently wouldn't be much more of a surprise for the WG. Point is, no matter what Jimbei does, if he stays in FI, no way they'll let the island be. Again, in short, Hancock at AL = A-OK, Jimbei at FI = Noooo…
What does this have to do with Jimbei's chances? Sure Hanockc has an "Official" duty as we know. But the argument is about how her just leaving her people is cruel and unstrawhat like manner. And then how is jimbei just leaving fishman island to its fate by going with strawhats any different. Just cause he isn't "Officially" their leader? he is still leaving his people to their fate when he could stay around and protect them
@Airflow:
I don't even remember this but if anything it proves my point, they have influence all over the globe and can call up dozens of ships whenever they feel the need.
no, complete oppostie of what this shows. it shows they didn't have the manpower in south blue so needed to take soem from north blue. and guess what? this weakens north blue doing that. now sure the survivors of this war are heading back to their posts now, but still that is showing their is chaos and they dont' have unlimited resources.
@Airflow:
First of all show me where it says this as I really don't remember it.
Second it's not about being overstretched, it's about having presence. 30 warships looks better than 20 and all that.
Third the fact that they have these reinforcements agains proves they have bundles of resources. Or do reinforcements not count in your zany world?
Fourth it would take 2 ships at most to take AL. Stop overstating their strength.
well kind of already adressed this, but just take the 2 ships part. how do you know this? i think deicide said it that look how much the "Franky Family" managaed to do and i sure as hell can gurantee that they would get owned by amazon lily alone, not even counting kuja pirates.
oh and besides you guys always say the sisters got owned by luffy, but are all these arguments based on Hancock being gone? cause hell from what we have seen it seems Hancock would take out a Vice Admiral or at least momongo in no time at all. but besides how about lets bring up mr. 3 vs. magellan. comparing what luffy did to sisters is totally baseless for any other character, even if you ignore Luffy is MAIN CHARACTER. but still we have mr. 3 suprise against magellan, croc seemingly still amazing in war and he was beat how long ago. Ace is able to hold off aokiji easy, but is overpowered by aikanu. don't compare fighters please, its annoying
@KiShiDo:
No but Hinscher and some others think that the WG hasn't the time to take over a "big" and "strong" island ala AL. nyon's words were pointless and Boa has nothing to fear and can simply hope nothing will happen and if yes someday Luffy and Co will sail the hell back
i don't think they are arguing that they don't have the time, they are just arguing that we don't know when they would have the time.
it could be now, could be in an hour, could be a week, could be a month, ect.
what did magellan say during the prison break? whitebeard could show up anytime so they can't spare sending help. the WG could have easily stopped the prison break, but they had bigger pressing matters to deal with. That is all they are saying. Sure there is no war right now going on, but regardless of how close you think amazon lily is its still a week's sail which takes resources to send there. They ahve to ask is it worth it right now to do that, or is there something else we shoudl do first.
That is all they are saying. You guys have to leave the possibility of the attack not being instant open.
also quit trying to rank vice admirals, admirals and so on. guess who would proabbly be a vice admiral if not the warden? magellan. There are only 3 admirals. So anyone not those 3 are ranked vice admiral or lower, besides sengoku. they can range from magellan strength to somethign much much weaker. and how about smoker? luffy can't beat him and he isn't a vice admiral.
and of course luffy was tired and worn out in war. just cause he got hormones doesn' tmake him perfect. don't you recall iva mentioning how he was surprised that luffy did so much after all he did in impel down and so on. and they are supposed to last a day right? how come he fainted twice in less than half a day? its just an adrenaline rush, his body was still beat to shit and tired. a guy up all night that takes some caffiene versus a guy who had a good nights sleep may feel the same at one point, but the guy who got sleep will perform better. just cause your body thinks its ok, doesn't mean it is