-Not to get off subject but,
I just have to say this now, i read through this entire thread from start to finish at work, (im a network administrator in the marines i dont do shit lol)
The thing with Raleigh redirecting Kizaru's attack, its not the fact that he didn't have his pass through ability on, there's nothing hinting that he didn't have it on, (just because he was standing on Zoro's back dosnt imply this because if that was the case then to use this ability Logias wouldnt be able to even stand on the ground when trying to phase through attacks)
Also in the case of Crocodile, he trained his df so that it became muscle memory to just phase through any oncoming attacks, so why cant Kizaru do this as well? I mean he is an admiral and alot more experiance and stronger than Crocodile.
In my humble oppinion this is the first hint as to why logias arn't automatically labeled as the unbeatable gods of the OP world, like how they say WB is the strongest man in the world and he shows no hint of having a logia DF, and people like Aoi Kiji and Kizaru and even Smoker arnt put on higher Pedastools.
There have to be ways to hurt logias besides having their natural weakness, or sea stone just look at Smoker. The last time we saw him he had a new scar across the chest that was never there previously.
-sorry for the spelling im pretty tired its 1130 out here in japan and i have to go to damn work every fucking day except weekends.