Shanks uses a sword, does that automatically makes Mihawk stronger?

Ronaldinho

Why the hell are you guys still arguing about that. Just wait and see what happens and then you can try to dizz someone. Everyone of you is hardheaded like hell. Why are you even trying to convince people who are not going to give up their opinion anyway. Keep your opinion for yourself. Jeez. At the beginning everyone was just arguing based on educated guesses. Now, every word you type is filled with anger.

Don't you guys have anything else to do other than sitting in front of the computer, ruining you eyes and taking insults from random people you don't even know? Do something for your community or help poor people. You are wasting precious time in your life.

FireFistAce 0

@WHITEBEARD:

Thanks for helping me out You just PWNED yourself.

SPOON FEED!

He called Shanks a bastard, plus he was not impressed with shanks Ki what so ever( he laugh at him) that the gap in power. just like if I called you a fanboy , Im dissing ya.
PWNED

I didn't own myself, you're just stupid. He called him a bastard in the same way he called Roger an asshole. He was PISSED OFF. You are most stubborn person I've ever met. Would you be pissed off if someone came on your ship and knocked out most of your crew? I would.

YOU just got owned.

So the 7 gods of the sea are so great the WG had to LEGALIZED them b/c they were so great at being a pirate.
and you still did not show me where it is stated that they are the strongest pirates in the world, or you did not show me where it is stated that the yonkou are the strongest world power.
Pwned

GARP SAID IT. YOU SAID IT. You said they were on the level of Whitebeard, Whitebeard is the world's strongest. There's no one stronger. There is no damn power gap, only in your fanboy imagination.

YOU just got owned AGAIN.

Oda said that the marines and the 7 gods are **2 CONFLICTING GROUPS OF EQUAL POWER. PWNED

do you know what CONFLICTING MEANS?**

Tashigi: "Vivi"…?!
Princess Nefertari Vivi...?!! Why would she be with them?!!

Smoker: That's what I'm thinking about.
And also... the one man in this country... that I despise...
You know I hate the "Seven Armed Seas", don't you?

Sergeant: Y... you mean Sir Crocodile?

Tashigi: But speaking logically,
He's an ally of the Marines and the government.

I can quote this all day until it enters your fat head.

Phenomenol

Again, if Roger was completely equal to his rival Whitebeard, why is Roger Pirate King and created One Piece and Whitebeard NOT the one who created One Piece and is Pirate King?

Cause he created ONE PIECE!!!!! In a fight Whitebeard can Match Roger it is stated and the Author says it End….Of...Story.

From Webster:

ri·val (rī'vəl) Pronunciation Key
n.
One who attempts to equal or surpass another, or who pursues the same object as another; a competitor.
One that equals or almost equals another in a particular respect.
Obsolete A companion or an associate in a particular duty.

Failed.

Why don't you Add the rest of the words to it moron? Rival means Match, EQUAL, Peer. Go look it up on the internet or an encyclopedia. You just failed!!!! Hawkeye's and Shanks are EQUAL!!!!!

Tashigi: "Vivi"…?!
Princess Nefertari Vivi...?!! Why would she be with them?!!

Smoker: That's what I'm thinking about.
And also... the one man in this country... that I despise...
You know I hate the "Seven Armed Seas", don't you?

Sergeant: Y... you mean Sir Crocodile?

Tashigi: But speaking logically,
He's an ally of the Marines and the government.

ABSOLUTELY AND COMPLETELY FAILED.

You admitted you were wrong before, so that puts you above WHITEBEARD, but you're still stubborn as a twenty year old mule. And I would know, my dad's friend manages a mule/jack farm.

You continue to Chatt more garbage with your ignorance!! My quotes are more reliable than yours…...

Mihawk: "Marine Headquarters" and "Seven Armed Seas"… two conflicting groups of equal power
holding a "round table" is a meaningless thing.

Old Men: Do not act rashly, determine the situation.
More important is the "Seven Armed Seas". We must find a replacement for Crocodile.
Do not treat that empty hole lightly.
If the "Three Great Powers" were to collapse, the very world would unravel at the seams.

It is only Marine Headquarters and the Seven Armed Seas that can withstand their might!!
These "Three Great Powers" form a precarious balance that keeps the world from destruction, lest it fall.

You need more brain cells!!!! They are ALL equal!!!! All three powers are Equal!!!

ONEinchPUNCH

I'd take Mihawks word over tashigi or smoker since Mihawk is a world power so he knows what he is up against. He was in the holy land and when he spoke those words did you notice no-one said anything back to him.

WHITEBEARD

I didn't own myself, you're just stupid. He called him a bastard in the same way he called Roger an asshole. He was PISSED OFF. You are most stubborn person I've ever met. Would you be pissed off if someone came on your ship and knocked out most of your crew? I would.

Whitebeard was laughing at shanks. Whitebeard was not pissed off.
He called shanks a bastard for saying, "im not here to fight" but he KI was truned on full blast and Whitebeard was not impressed. there your gap in power between shanks and Whitebeard.

GARP SAID IT. YOU SAID IT. You said they were on the level of Whitebeard, Whitebeard is the world's strongest. There's no one stronger. There is no damn power gap, only in your fanboy imagination.

I have Facts you have What???????

Tashigi: "Vivi"…?!
Princess Nefertari Vivi...?!! Why would she be with them?!!

Smoker: That's what I'm thinking about.
And also... the one man in this country... that I despise...
You know I hate the "Seven Armed Seas", don't you?

Sergeant: Y... you mean Sir Crocodile?

Tashigi: But speaking logically,
He's an ally of the Marines and the government.

I can quote this all day until it enters your fat head.

Well Oda said the marines are "2 conflicting groups of equal power."

You still did not show me where it is stated that the yonkou are the worlds strongest power.

Pwning you is not fun anymore.

FireFistAce 0

@Phenomenol:

Cause he created ONE PIECE!!!!! In a fight Whitebeard can Match Roger it is stated and the Author says it End….Of...Story.

So why didn't Whitebeard create One Piece? Roger's stronger, you fail.

Why don't you Add the rest of the words to it moron? Rival means Match, EQUAL, Peer. Go look it up on the internet or an encyclopedia. You just failed!!!! Hawkeye's and Shanks are EQUAL!!!!!

No, you idiot, I just quoted webster's dictionary and you still want to argue? Give it up. A Rival is someone who competes with another for the same thing. They can be equal or ALMOST EQUAL. You're only quoting the definition that suits you because you hate to lose.

You continue to Chatt more garbage with your ignorance!! My quotes are more reliable than yours…...

You need more brain cells!!!! They are ALL equal!!!! All three powers are Equal!!!

No, you need more brain cells. None of those quotes state the Yonkou are equal to the Shichibukai or the Marines. NONE. It states the Shichibukai and Marines are equals in one, it states they're all world powers in the other. The balance is clearly in favor of the Yonkou, you're just too stubborn to admit it.

And I keep bloody telling you, Mihawk meant they were conflicting in ideals, not in purpose. And you CANNOT prove to me otherwise.

And WHITEBEARD, I'm ignoring you because you're owning yourself. You can't admit that you're wrong. At least Phenomenol did, if only once. You're out of the league, go home.

Angel emfrbl

FFA do you mind if I pull a shotgun out on your ego? Let it go… Your making this topic boring. You haven't said anything new really in 10 pages. Small twinks on the same theories... Thats about it. Let it go, keep it cool.

Phenomenol

So why didn't Whitebeard create One Piece? Roger's stronger, you fail.

Just cause Roger Created One Piece makes him STRONGER than Whitebeard in Combat?:wassat:

No, you idiot, I just quoted webster's dictionary and you still want to argue? Give it up. A Rival is someone who competes with another for the same thing. They can be equal or ALMOST EQUAL. You're only quoting the definition that suits you because you hate to lose.

You just said the same damn thing I said….... Rival: ONE THAT EQUALS ANOTHER, ESPECIALLY IN DESIRED QUALITIES: MATCH, PEER.

That is from the the Encyclopedia on the internet!!!! Shanks and Hawkeye's are Equals wheather your Fanboyism likes it or not.

No, you need more brain cells. None of those quotes state the Yonkou are equal to the Shichibukai or the Marines. NONE. It states the Shichibukai and Marines are equals in one, it states they're all world powers in the other. The balance is clearly in favor of the Yonkou, you're just too stubborn to admit it.

And I keep bloody telling you, Mihawk meant they were conflicting in ideals, not in purpose. And you CANNOT prove to me otherwise.

Are you a moron??? "These "Three Great Powers" form a precarious balance that keeps the world from destruction, lest it fall. " Do you know what the hell balance means? That is the key word and that makes them equal. It never states that the Shichibukai and Marines are equal as one it states that their are THREE GREAT POWERS Not one Great power NOT two Great powers THREE And NOONE has the advantage in their powers you Fool. You need to stop holding your piss and just wet yourself because you FAIL big time.

WHITEBEARD

@Fire Fist:

And WHITEBEARD, I'm ignoring you because you're owning yourself. You can't admit that you're wrong. At least Phenomenol did, if only once. You're out of the league, go home.

You cant prove me wrong…...................

MY FACTS vs Your fanboyism = you giving up.

Men lie…......Fanboys lie.........**Oda/Manga dont.

**

FireFistAce 0

@Phenomenol:

Just cause Roger Created One Piece makes him STRONGER than Whitebeard in Combat?:wassat:

Not in combat, but he is stronger. Re-read the definition of Strength.

You just said the same damn thing I said….... Rival: ONE THAT EQUALS ANOTHER, ESPECIALLY IN DESIRED QUALITIES: MATCH, PEER.

That is from the the Encyclopedia on the internet!!!! Shanks and Hawkeye's are Equals wheather your Fanboyism likes it or not.

Yeah, because bonsai kittens are real.

Fact is, I have a webster's dictionary sitting next to me and it says equal or ALMOST equal. ALMOST. You convienently ignore that word for whatever reason.

Are you a moron??? "These "Three Great Powers" form a precarious balance that keeps the world from destruction, lest it fall. " Do you know what the hell balance means? That is the key word and that makes them equal. It never states that the Shichibukai and Marines are equal as one it states that their are THREE GREAT POWERS Not one Great power NOT two Great powers THREE And NOONE has the advantage in their powers you Fool. You need to stop holding your piss and just wet yourself because you FAIL big time.

I don't fail, you fail. The balance is simple. Shichibukai + Marines = All 4 Yonkou combined.

Sogeking D. Usopp

Okay, time to end the conversation. I do agree with FFA partially, though the topic is way off course.

The question is in this topic, not Shank's primary fighting style, or what makes anyone better, worse, or different than anyone else. The question posted was; is Mihawk the stronger swordsman. To that, it should be agreed 100% that yes, Mihawk is the strongest swordsman in the world. (Its his TITLE).

As far as One Piece and the rest of the Odaverse, we're not sure if One Piece even EXISTS. "Sure, you can have it, go find it." I honestly believe that One Piece doesn't exist, its rather the achievement of a dream. The reason Roger is credited for One Piece is because he was publicly executed.

Mihawk is the best swordsman, period. Shanks probably uses a variety of fighting techniques outside his sword. This is evidenced by his gameplay in One Piece Grand Battle series of games (Grand Battle 3, Rush, and Adventure). As far as who's stronger, Mihawk is; but he's also slower and has less variety in his techniques than Shanks.

Shichbukai are on different levels on their OWN, Crocodile with 81 MB, Doflamingo with 340 MB, its obvious who's stronger due to their reputation. Also in the Odaverse, he defies modern Fight-Anime's by avoiding the subject of "Power" as a source for how strong characters are. Character's traits are what determine the outcome of most battles.

According to the Marines, their main opposition is within the Yonkou, as they are the strongest pirate FORCES in the world. The Yonkou are probably very powerful themselves, and it remains to be seen what level they are truely on. My guess is that the Yonkou leaders are roughly as strong as a Shichibukai privateer; their only real advantage comes from their crews.

Currently, the Yonkou have an advantage, due to a Shichibukai position being lost. Imagine losing a single brick in a wall? Even a tiny hole can be inspiration for the pirate forces to assemble and break through the hole.

Ronaldinho

Le Lawliet

Mihawk is the best swordsman, period. Shanks probably uses a variety of fighting techniques outside his sword. This is evidenced by his gameplay in One Piece Grand Battle series of games (Grand Battle 3, Rush, and Adventure). As far as who's stronger, Mihawk is; but he's also slower and has less variety in his techniques than Shanks.

Now here, I'm not sure that Games are the best evidence to use. I'm not quite certain as to how much involvement Oda has in them.

Angel emfrbl

Hmmm… Shanks has a move in the Gand Battle Rush game that knocks you flying that doesn't use any phsyical contact... Sound familar? This was released long time before recent chapters.

Phenomenol

Not in combat, but he is stronger. Re-read the definition of Strength.Yeah, because bonsai kittens are real.Fact is, I have a webster's dictionary sitting next to me and it says equal or ALMOST equal. ALMOST. You convienently ignore that word for whatever reason.

I am talking about Whitebeard and Roger in Combat and they are equal in that department.

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/Rival

Rival means Equals and peer! Shanks and Hawkeye's are Equals! Your Fanboyism STINKS…....

I don't fail, you fail. The balance is simple. Shichibukai + Marines = All 4 Yonkou combined.

You ignored the ""These "Three Great Powers"…... It does NOT say Shichibukai plus Marines= 4 Emperors, it states "Three Great Powers!!!!"

YOU FAILED…........ GO BRUSH YOUR TEETH!!!!!

Phenomenol will now depart!!!!

DesertSpada

How long will this go on?

Angel emfrbl

I'm seriously feel like counting the no. times FFA said he pwned someone… And someone else argue back to prove he didn't. ¬_¬'

The biggest note to think abiut with Mihawk being a shichibukai is he is still a pirate. Who knows what suprises, like Shanks, he hides.

Le Lawliet

@Angel:

Hmmm… Shanks has a move in the Gand Battle Rush game that knocks you flying that doesn't use any phsyical contact... Sound familar? This was released long time before recent chapters.

I'm not quite sure if that's the same thing as his "ambition" though. If you're talking about when he sheathes his sword, It's not that similar.

FireFistAce 0

@Phenomenol:

I am talking about Whitebeard and Roger in Combat and they are equal in that department.

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/Rival

Rival means Equals and peer! Shanks and Hawkeye's are Equals! Your Fanboyism STINKS…....

Again, you ignore the word ALMOST because it suits you. There's more than one definition for rival. Give it up.

You ignored the ""These "Three Great Powers"…... It does NOT say Shichibukai plus Marines= 4 Emperors, it states "Three Great Powers!!!!"

YOU FAILED…........ GO BRUSH YOUR TEETH!!!!!

Phenomenol will now depart!!!!

I did not fail. They're "Three Great Powers". Okay. Obviously, that means they're stronger than any other powers, including Dragon's revolutionaries. But that statement has absolutely no bearing on their strength in relation to one another.

And good for you, finally giving up. Whitebeard failed and you gave up. I'd toast to my victory, but I wasn't fighting against you guys. I was wondering when you'd see the light.

WHITEBEARD

You know FFa there is a thread that talks about the 3 great powers your off topic!

ONEinchPUNCH

@Fire Fist:

Again, you ignore the word ALMOST because it suits you. There's more than one definition for rival. Give it up.

I did not fail. They're "Three Great Powers". Okay. Obviously, that means they're stronger than any other powers, including Dragon's revolutionaries. But that statement has absolutely no bearing on their strength in relation to one another.

And good for you, finally giving up. Whitebeard failed and you gave up. I'd toast to my victory, but I wasn't fighting against you guys. I was wondering when you'd see the light.

Oh no-ones given up, you just repeat the same thing over and over so there is no need to reply. All the answers are on the previous pages

Angel emfrbl

Okay I'm gonna say it:

Spam Bot FFA - SHUT THE HELL UP ALREADY YOU ARE BORING!!!!

Sorry. I just had to say that… I don't care on the consequences... Someone just have to say it.

Luckily, I kept my manners in place not to swear... FFA everyone wants to go back up topic now, shut up.

Everyone if he continues - ignore him!!!!

WHITEBEARD

So yea back on topic like I said be4 I think Hawkeye is stronger then Shanks b/c it is stated that he is the world strongest swordsman. all facts (NOT SPECULATION/opinions) point to Shanks being a swordsman, and nothing else at the moment.

FireFistAce 0

@WHITEBEARD:

So yea back on topic like I said be4 I think Hawkeye is stronger then Shanks b/c it is stated that he is the world strongest swordsman. all facts (NOT SPECULATION/opinions) point to Shanks being a swordsman, and nothing else at the moment.

Fair enough, but we don't know the full extent of his abilities. We've seen him do one move. And like I said, it's entirely possible Mihawk claimed the title while Shanks was learning to use his other arm.

GoAnderson

Fire Fist, I'm going to ask nicely: Please stop.

WHITEBEARD… This is your final warning. Stop being an asswipe, or you will be banned. End of story.

Oh, and the thread's going to be locked. Almost forgot...

Edit: As a sidenote, I have piss-poor timing. o.oV Either way, I believe it merits locking. Feel free to start over.