People, what Kizaru used is not Shigan or Soru, those are only "SIX FORMS" techniques.
Chapter 508 "Isle of Carnage" Discussion
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the fact that he's moving at the speed of light it seems, or using "Light" blasts would make rokushinki obsolete.
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My pet theory is he has a few Pacifista upgrades of his own. Maybe not a full cyborg a la Kuma, but definitely something. Would explain how he has the authority to command the Kuma-corps, given he's one of them.
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i hope that urouge growing massive is like his GEAR 1 or something
that would be cool
there could be like:
HUGE UROUGE
SPEEDY UROUGE
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They are facing one Kuma now, they will have bad time getting him down, and when they will, 10 new Kumas will appear…
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maybe the kumas were sent by grap
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I dont know if I am not thinking clearly, or just being an idiot, but what exactly does "Light is Weight" mean? I am totally confused.
Kizaru was asking Hawkins if he could withstand his kick, which was coming at him at the speed of light, but what does the weight part mean?
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What is with the dumbassery today.
There are currently three known Pacifistas on the island.
Kuma stated back in TB that he wasn't unique and that he was a prototype.
Kizaru uses light as a DF power. Light = weight = force was a theory that some geeks on here went through a while ago.
The Pacifistas are the special troops that Kizaru brought with him. They're neither commanded by Kuma or Garp (the latter at this present moment in time).
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Well Kizaru did say "speed is weight", looks simillar to Blackbeard's words "darkness is gravity". Would be nice if we could find that page where Blackbeard say's it in raw, becouse 重さ seems to have a second meening as "gravity", but I dunno really.
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Kizaru uses light as a DF power. Light = weight = force was a theory that some geeks on here went through a while ago.
Yeah I already knew the first sentence, but wtf does that shit got to do with anything? Light is usually discussed only using wavelengths and/or frequencies, gravity has such a minuscule effect on light.
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@They:
Yeah I already knew the first sentence, but wtf does that shit got to do with anything? Light is usually discussed only using wavelengths and/or frequencies, gravity has such a minuscule effect on light.
If darkness is gravity and Blackbeard controls black holes or something like that, maybe the one with light fruit controls white holes? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_hole
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hmm
ive just had an idea
i think that those 2 little things coming out of hawkin's arms are the 2 people that he redirected the damage from kizaru's attacks to
coz one of the little voodoo things is smoking just like the guy that got hit by kizaru's finger lazer thingWE MIGHT JUST HAVE A GENIUS ON OUR HANDS FOLKS!
Seriously, good eye kidWow, that's an excellent observation. Good job!
I really hope you guys were being sarcastic.
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Are you saying that i'm not a genius??
lolNot if your claim to fame was noticing the voodoo dolls represented Basil's victims.
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Yes ,twas sarcasm. I just felt like ending the post on a good note. Apoo will shut all these bitches down next chapter.
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My money is on Drake doing the most damage next time round. Though my opinion is also probably biased since he seems to based on Sir Francis Drake, my favourite pirate(although he was more of a privateer, like the Ouka Shichibukai).
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Obviously Urouge is gonna kick some ass next chapter especially after ta beating he just just took from Kuma Clone and because his muscles just grew like by 3 times
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hmm-was looking at that-and Hawkins seems rather small compared to him then-I man,I know the guys tall and all-and well,I just though that Hawkins-Kuma-Urouge proportions were a tad off there.
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@They:
I dont know if I am not thinking clearly, or just being an idiot, but what exactly does "Light is Weight" mean? I am totally confused.
Kizaru was asking Hawkins if he could withstand his kick, which was coming at him at the speed of light, but what does the weight part mean?
When you approach the speed of light; your mass approaches infinity. Weight is mass times gravity. So when he kicks something with the 'speed of light" he essentially kicks them with infinite mass (weight).
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@They:
Yeah I already knew the first sentence, but wtf does that shit got to do with anything? Light is usually discussed only using wavelengths and/or frequencies, gravity has such a minuscule effect on light.
speed is the one of the most significant attribute of light. he can kick at the speed of light, it takes unlimited energy to move any mass at the speed of light. Power = work/time taken, with his speed, his kick can supposedly destroy anything that's less hard than bone… or destroy his own leg.
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What is with the dumbassery today.
There are currently three known Pacifistas on the island.
Kuma stated back in TB that he wasn't unique and that he was a prototype.
Kizaru uses light as a DF power. Light = weight = force was a theory that some geeks on here went through a while ago.
The Pacifistas are the special troops that Kizaru brought with him. They're neither commanded by Kuma or Garp (the latter at this present moment in time).
With Sentomaru looking like Kintaro, and being named after a steamship, I'm expecting him to be in charge of the Pacifistas.
But other than that, I think you are spot on.
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@They:
I dont know if I am not thinking clearly, or just being an idiot, but what exactly does "Light is Weight" mean? I am totally confused.
Kizaru was asking Hawkins if he could withstand his kick, which was coming at him at the speed of light, but what does the weight part mean?
When you double the weight of something it will only double the force of an impact. If you double the speed of something the force of an impact will quadruple.
At least that is what I think my teacher told me when discussing car crashes in driver's ed. Basically Kizaru is saying the destructive force of a kick at the speed of light is incredibly high. So high no amount of conceviable muscle(Urouge/Gear 3rd/Garp's fists) could compare.
In WB, Shanks, Rayleigh, etc. cases they could still hit harder because they have made up spiritual shounen energy behind their attacks.
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Obviously Urouge is gonna kick some ass next chapter especially after ta beating he just just took from Kuma Clone and because his muscles just grew like by 3 times
I think he is fooder. 3.3
I mean this isn't Marvel, the Hulk isn't the strongest here, I say Kizaru is to fast for him ;V
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@TonytonyDon:
I think he is fooder. 3.3
I mean this isn't Marvel, the Hulk isn't the strongest here, I say Kizaru is to fast for him ;V
Except he's not gonna fight Kizaru, he'll just tear apart the Kuma-bot and run like fuck while Kizaru "talks" to Drake some.
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could this arc be someting like the survivel game in skypia. but now in stead of 3 ours there are 3 days?
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Ryu-well,the PREFERABLE situation.
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Except he's not gonna fight Kizaru, he'll just tear apart the Kuma-bot and run like fuck while Kizaru "talks" to Drake some.
Well… Kizaru has been quite unpredictable so far, so we can't be sure of anything. Sure, currently Kizaru is engaged with Hawkins, but he doesn't seem to care who he takes care off until he can get in contact with Sentoumaru.
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wow….the troops being kuma clones.....downright obvious....the kizaru's nephew thing.....not that obvious.
it was an ok chapter, i guess.
But the gear 2 thing at the start of the fight....that just makes it a copy of like dragonball z -
Why does everyone always complain about Luffy's Gear moves? They are the natural evolution of his powers. I mean, it's a power up that actually makes SENSE!
And Luffy was going "Zenkai" from the beginning because he knew that his opponent was really strong.
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I wonder what Luffy can do if he used a Gear 4?
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Awesome thats what gear 4 would be
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KIZARU's powers are totally awesome! When Oda revealed that black beard had "darkness" fruitI had a feeling that we would run into his opposite someday. Someone with a "light" fruit. There are so many possibilities for attacks when you're made of light. You can be so bright that you can force everyone to close their eyes as you attack them from every direction. Light = Speed = Mass = Power. I would say he's probably invincible… or close to it. Only black beard would be a stalemate against him. The only other obvious fruit that hasn't comeout is some sort of "air" or "wind" fruit where the guy is made up of wind.
Don't really understand people that hat DF users. DFs are a huge part of OnePiece. Plus it's logical that most of the strongest pirates/marines in the world would have some sort of special power that gives them an edge over normal people or other weaker DF users. That's what makes Luffy so great because he hasn't really eaten a special fruit (probably considered a weak fruit; mostly known for defensive measures not as a fruit with strong attack potential). It really shows Luffy is someone special… with or without the fruit.. he would have been great. He always finds a way to get stronger.
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How come your text is so large?
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Awesome thats what gear 4 would be
Not if its something completely random.
Really the only practical&plausible ability left for a Rubberman would be to vulcanize his body giving him his own version of Tekkai. But he wouldn't be able to stretch and vulcanization is supposed to be permanent so it would be interesting to see if Oda does anything with that.
Making his entire body big is another ability but that would still be Gear 3.
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In Lehman's terms, Luffy will make himself much more dense. I had thought of this for awhile, but I did not like the idea of him using a gear solely for defensive purposes.
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@They:
In Lehman's terms, Luffy will make himself much more dense. I had thought of this for awhile, but I did not like the idea of him using a gear solely for defensive purposes.
As if Luffy wasn't dense enough already.
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So what kind of DF user is Kizaru ? Logia or paramecia ? He doesn't seem to turn into light !? Light needs a source, it can't just stand there in the middle of nowhere !?
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So what kind of DF user is Kizaru ? Logia or paramecia ? He doesn't seem to turn into light !? Light needs a source, it can't just stand there in the middle of nowhere !?
He seems to be Paramecia. When he's first introduced (formally), a dude shoots him in the back of the head and the bullet wound is shown smoking, so he can be physically hit.
I don't think we're seeing the whole picture, though. I think he actually ate the Chi Chi no Mi (Energy Energy Fruit), which allows him to convert himself into energy, and therefore enable him to kick things at the speed of light ( E = MC^2) and shoot Chi blasts.
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KIZARU's powers are totally awesome! When Oda revealed that black beard had "darkness" fruitI had a feeling that we would run into his opposite someday. Someone with a "light" fruit. There are so many possibilities for attacks when you're made of light. You can be so bright that you can force everyone to close their eyes as you attack them from every direction. Light = Speed = Mass = Power. I would say he's probably invincible… or close to it. Only black beard would be a stalemate against him. The only other obvious fruit that hasn't comeout is some sort of "air" or "wind" fruit where the guy is made up of wind.
Don't really understand people that hat DF users. DFs are a huge part of OnePiece. Plus it's logical that most of the strongest pirates/marines in the world would have some sort of special power that gives them an edge over normal people or other weaker DF users. That's what makes Luffy so great because he hasn't really eaten a special fruit (probably considered a weak fruit; mostly known for defensive measures not as a fruit with strong attack potential). It really shows Luffy is someone special… with or without the fruit.. he would have been great. He always finds a way to get stronger.
If Kizaru has truly a light-logia I don't uderstand how Aokiji is stronger. :getlost:
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If Kizaru has truly a light-logia I don't uderstand how Aokiji is stronger. :getlost:
Kizaru >>> Aokiji
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maybe luffy will really go "all out" and is for the rest of the 3 days so exhausted that the rest of the crew will take on kizaru.
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wow….the troops being kuma clones.....downright obvious....the kizaru's nephew thing.....not that obvious.
it was an ok chapter, i guess.
But the gear 2 thing at the start of the fight....that just makes it a copy of like dragonball zyeah i also like it more when luffy first starts fighting without his full strength…
how often i enjoyed this during a filler,where a weak chara goes against luffy but luffy completely "forgot" about his fighting skills and so a fucking weak guy could get luffy into trouble...love fillers and any1 who thinks luffy shouldn`t fight with his full strength against villains....:getlost:(thats sarcasms!!) -
Guy from Melnibone-what ?
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Kizaru needs a little hype to get Aokiji out of people's head ;-)
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Yes ,twas sarcasm. I just felt like ending the post on a good note. Apoo will shut all these bitches down next chapter.
Apoo's dead already ;o) :P
Though on a serious note, he should be. he had a chance to leave the island and declined it.
If Kizaru has truly a light-logia I don't uderstand how Aokiji is stronger. :getlost:
Because no matter, he needs to hit his enemies and at that point he can be frozen.
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@Fire Fist:
He seems to be Paramecia. When he's first introduced (formally), a dude shoots him in the back of the head and the bullet wound is shown smoking, so he can be physically hit.
I don't think we're seeing the whole picture, though. I think he actually ate the Chi Chi no Mi (Energy Energy Fruit), which allows him to convert himself into energy, and therefore enable him to kick things at the speed of light ( E = MC^2) and shoot Chi blasts.
his foot turned to light
hes probably a logia
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Because no matter, he needs to hit his enemies
No?
@sabret00the:and at that point he can be frozen.
You can't freeze that guy anyway :p
edit: 3, 2, 1, go Aokiji vs. Kizaru! \o/
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@Fire Fist:
He seems to be Paramecia. When he's first introduced (formally), a dude shoots him in the back of the head and the bullet wound is shown smoking, so he can be physically hit
loguetown, smoker and ace.
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Blue Pheasant = Ice
Yellow Monkey - Light/Energy
Red Dog - Lava is my guessIs there a thread about this?
Kizaru was hopping from grove to grove in every panel.
I guess he was either moving with the speed of light or can actually split himself.Red Dog i think is probably stronger than the other 2.
PS : Have you noticed how tall the Admirals are? Hawkings was like a kid.
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White Peasant = Powerful logia fruit.
Yellow Monkey = Powerful paramecia fruit.
Red Dog = Powerful zoan Fruit.Theory works, if Kizaru has Paramecia fruit. Uh, i btw… why mr ice ice is not animal named? If that is animal, what animal, never heard "Peasant"...
Well if Red Dog has logia... then i guess Earth Earth no mi...