Don't really hate Noitora or anything, but he's definitely not interesting. Kubo tried way too hard to make him overly sleazy.
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Yeah, that grin and his face don't do much for me.
Not to mention all he's done is fly in and one-shot half dead characters. Pretty bad.
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That and ask Ulquiorra "Didja rape her yet? Huh? Huh?"
So I'll have to agree with you GOhn, his personality is really forced.
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His personality never really seemed overt or forced to me. I'm fairly positive there are people that could be considered as "sick" as him in reality, and to me, Noitora's a manifestation of everything people look down upon in today's society. Someone most people just hate to hate, and characters like him are an extremely nice change of pace from the "love to hate" bunch that usually seem to make you root for the bad guys.
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Yeah, exactly. We're supposed to hate him. He's forcefully sleazy, has a stupid "Can you tell that I'm sick and twisted?" grin, etc. Soon, he'll start licking his sword and talking about drinking blood.
OOOOOOOOOO CREEEEEEPY SMILING GUY -GHOST NOISES-
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But you see, you don't seem to hate him because "OMG, he's gonna rape innocent children!" You seem to hate him because you feel his personality is too forced. Two completely different reasons that both lead to his being hated, yet the latter reason seems to be a complete discredit to the author's work.
I'm not trying to make you like him or anything, I'm simply trying to understand why people feel his character is so shallow.
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Because we've seen characters like him before.
Personally don't care if he has sex with dead dogs or stuffs hot coals in his panties. Villains can be villains without the author needing to make them fall into the advanced stages of antisocial personality disorder.
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I must admit that I don't read very much manga, so I haven't really seen a character like him before. That could be the reason I like him so much, because for me, he's unique in how incredibly depraved he acts.
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All I can say about Gin is that he looks like a cracked up humanoid rat.
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I would've appreciated someone else from the Espada to show up rather than Noitora, but alright. I'll read the chapter first and then pass down my judgement. I saw some spoiler pics where Ichigo is carrying Oriboobs and now that he finally has her, they sould get the fuck out of Hueco Mundo already. No need to start a new struggle with Noitora. IMO. By the way, do Ichigo & co have any idea just how they're going to get out of there or did I miss something somewhere?
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So has anyone died recently?
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I doubt it.
but yea, series is still moving as slow as Magic Johnson's AIDS.
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I'm glad we got some comedy in this chapter,I don't think that Ichigo would Noitora after he just fought Grimmjow,I think that the Vizards or Kenpachi wound fight him
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Good chapter! I was fully expecting someone, namely Ulquiorra, to come and finish off grimmjaw. Unfortunately, I didn't expect espada number 1 to come instead, which is really bad for ichigo. I'm surprised ichigo even has the energy to stand (darn shonens), let alone fight or run from #1. I would've expected the top espada to be defeated by one of the other soul reapers, and then aizen left for ichigo down the line. Makes more sense to spread it out that way.
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Seeing as how Noitora's always going on about how he has to prove himself as the strongest Espada, that implies to me that he isn't actually numero uno. I'd assume his rank is either fifth or seventh, which would still make him a tough fight for Ichigo, especially in Ichigo's current state.
I predict the return of Ulquiorra in the near future, though how exactly that might allow for Ichigo's escape, I'm not sure…
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Alas, I'll miss you, Grimmjow…
By the way, does anyone know of any scanlators other than Ju-Ni? Their love for loanwords is irritating, and I get enough of that "nakama" bullshit from OP scanlations. I don't need another manga making me hate that word even more than I already do...
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Alas, I'll miss you, Grimmjow…
By the way, does anyone know of any scanlators other than Ju-Ni? Their love for loanwords is irritating, and I get enough of that "nakama" bullshit from OP scanlations. I don't need another manga making me hate that word even more than I already do...
Nope, pretty much everyone has stolen that from K-F.
Thing is, people like maximum 7 and BS manga(fastest new releases) type out Nell's lisp. Which imo is 100x more irritating to read.
"Thith ith tho retarded ithigo."
If these juni people don't do that, I'd like a link to their releases.
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Noitora is one of the most boring Espada imo, I sort of want Halibel to fight.
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Nope, pretty much everyone has stolen that from K-F.
God dammit to the pus rivers of Hell… Fucking hate that word!
Thing is, people like maximum 7 and BS manga(fastest new releases) type out Nell's lisp. Which imo is 100x more irritating to read.
"Thith ith tho retarded ithigo."
If these juni people don't do that, I'd like a link to their releases.
No, they do it too, and I kinda understand why.
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Seeing as how Noitora's always going on about how he has to prove himself as the strongest Espada, that implies to me that he isn't actually numero uno. I'd assume his rank is either fifth or seventh, which would still make him a tough fight for Ichigo, especially in Ichigo's current state.
I predict the return of Ulquiorra in the near future, though how exactly that might allow for Ichigo's escape, I'm not sure…
It's obvious Ulquiorra is the strongest Espada!
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Stark and Halibel are the lazy Espada, the only Espade who aren't always blabbing shit or being emo, or either picking on wounded people. So, they're my favorites.
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Aizen is a boring character in my opinion.
The Typical antagonist who is calm, cool, collective and looking for more power.
Aizen maybe able to kick some serious @#$ though (No doubt about that).
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Guys, let me tell you EXACTLY what's gonna happen:
Noi, as specialized in beating half-dead people as he is, wtfpwn a half-dead strawberry;
Strawberry won't get another power-up and wtfpwn Noi, cuz that's just too stupid, even for Tite;
Nobody will come and save him cuz that's too complicated plot-wise for Tite;
DragonBoob wishes, I mean heals GJ back to life;
GJ wtfpwn Noi, makes cool pose, tries to say cool line like "nobody touch me strawberry, I mean, my prey";
GJ title changes from "Espada NO. 6" to "Renji NO.2";
Emo boy returns, Tite must be proud of himself for making things interesting and fast-paced!
Rukia, Chad are still dead, except they are not dead.
There, I just summarized the August part of Bleach for you, enjoy.
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God dammit to the pus rivers of Hell… Fucking hate that word!
No, they do it too, and I kinda understand why.
I do too, but I really wish, like with characters who talk in an old dialect of Japanese, they would just make a note of it and keep the words spelled normally.
It's almost as stupid as when that one OP subbing group tried to give Kaku sayings old people would say.(Like calling zoro "whippersnapper" and other corny shit.)
I'm ok with nakama, except when, like most other japanese words, nerds use it in english conversations.
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Wait, so now there are translators using the n word for other series too?
Goddamn you KF, what have you done?
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It's obvious Ulquiorra is the strongest Espada!
Not really… Ulquiorra's only the cuatro Espada, so that leaves three people stronger than him that we have yet to see actually do much of anything.
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I bet the strongest epsada is probably that old man. I just have a hunch.
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The old guy has to be number one, I mean, he's old.
I really like Grimmjow, but I really wish he had something besides a giant white rainbow laser as his final attack. :/
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I bet the strongest epsada is probably that old man. I just have a hunch.
I think so too, especially since the Espada have this "evil Gotei 13" thing going on, and he has a crown. He's a scarred-up old man, just like Yamamoto-Genryusai.
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Yeah, that's pretty much my reasoning too Shmeckie. Not to mention that Old men in anime/manga are usually retardedly powerful and just plain awesome.
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Him and the big mohawk guy are the only ones as of yet unnamed, which kind of implies to me that they're one and two.
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My espada list imo
1 - Old Man
2- Spike Head
3- Stark
4- Ulquiorra
5- Noitora
6- Grimmjow
7- Halibel
8- Polo-grantz
9- Araniero
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I agree with the first two, but I think Halibel might be ranked third. Being the only woman in the Espada, it seems like she might hold a position of higher power, just because that seems, I dunno… Just kind of the standard thing to do.
Stark and Noitora can be interchangable in either fifth or seventh place, but I'm leaning more towards Stark being fifth...
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I agree, mostly because Noitora being stronger than Grimmjow would be retarded.
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Good idea, anyway Stark and Halibel are my favorite Espada, Noitora being 7th would make sense, just a somewhat tough battle for Ichigo. He's gonna either have to run for it or get aid by hopefully my favorite character in Bleach, Chad.
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It just seems to me that the lower ranked the Espada, the more… brash they are. Yammy ran around and got his arm hacked off, Aaroniero already got himself killed, Szayel's insane, Grimmjow's a sadistic spaz... It makes sense that a crazy like Noitora would fit right in with that bunch.
In the top five, however, we already have Ulquiorra, who's extremely reserved (to say the least), probably Stark, as he just sleeps and doesn't really disrupt anything, and more than likely the other three, since we don't know anything about them and they haven't done anything insane as of yet.
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I really hope the Old Man will be #1, but I'm not holding my breath yet. He'll most likely be pretty high up there, which makes me happy.
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then he turns out to be one of those annoying geezers who is like # 7.
but yea, I think he and mah black brother are #1 and 2.
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Dudes, noitora is obviously in the top 3. You can't boast that much about being the strongest and only be belows 5. Give me a break. Plus he hasn't taken flack from anybody yet. When he spoke with #4, he seemed to back down to notoria (though in defiance). Plus, he took chad out in an instant. When Chad hit him full force, notoria didn't even flinch, and you think he's weaker than grimmjow and ulq/#4? I know there isn't much logic around the forum, but jeez :P.
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Dudes, noitora is obviously in the top 3. You can't boast that much about being the strongest and only be belows 5.
Sure you can. Grimmjow did it several times.
I remember Halibel talked down to him, and he got really pissy and defensive. Things like that and how he always babbles about "proving himself" are the reasons a lot of us think he might not be among the top.
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I'm putting my money on him being #5
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Dudes, noitora is obviously in the top 3. You can't boast that much about being the strongest and only be belows 5. Give me a break. Plus he hasn't taken flack from anybody yet. When he spoke with #4, he seemed to back down to notoria (though in defiance). Plus, he took chad out in an instant. When Chad hit him full force, notoria didn't even flinch, and you think he's weaker than grimmjow and ulq/#4? I know there isn't much logic around the forum, but jeez :P.
As much as I hate to say it, yeah… he took out Chad. Practically everyone takes out Chad. That doesn't really account for much at the moment...
Noitora also seems like the kind of guy that'll say whatever the hell he wants to whoever the hell he feels like. I'm not sure we can use his interactions with other Espada to judge his rank, either.
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I just didn't like how chad got all those crazy power-ups, and still ended up being in the same position he was when they got back from soul society. Unable to do shit and getting his arm fucked up.
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When all this is over, there needs to be a few chapters dedicated to Chad training
Rocky styleand actually becoming somewhat useful.I wouldn't even mind if he got written out of the storyline for awhile, as long as it meant he would actually DO something the next time he fought.
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Yeah, his new power was pretty cool, and I was really looking forward to him fighting an Espada (or at least another Privaron).
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Chad gets F'ed up so easy because he always ends up facing the strongest opponents dude. When he got defeated in soul society (the only other cannon arc) it was because he faced one of the strongest captains in soul society. Hell, he was probably stronger than Byakuya Kuchki (spelling?), deffinately been a captain longer. So you cant really go calling him all that weak when he gets pitted against people so strong. For chad to do no damage just means Notoria is extremely powerful. Plus, if you take his word for anything (the writters wouldnt make him lie 100% of the time), he did say that nobody can harm his body, so he must be one of the most powerful. It just makes more sense.
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That is made of pure awesomeness. Noitora = adorable. (damn it all, Orihime's ass just screams "OPPURTUNITY" in that stupid outfit. gaaaaah, make it stop)
And I never called Chad weak. However, it is a simple fact that Chad almost always gets his ass owned, even though it usually is by people in positions of high power. Ishida took down a captain, Ichigo took down two captains and an Espada, Rukia actually managed to KILL an Espada… Chad's just not nearly as powerful as the other fighters in the group.