@Cap'n:
I've heard some hilariously awful things about this movie.
SEE: My new avatar.
Emo Peter Parker was hilarious in a poison suction cup kinda way.
Spiderman 3
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The fight scenes were good. And that's about it.
The character relationships were fucked up, Venom was a skinny, little, punk, MJ was a fucking idiot, the scrap between Peter and Harry in the house was terrible, Spider-Man jumping on screen with the American Flag billowing gracefully behind him…
In short, I agree with Greg's review as usual.
Hi, Greg.
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The word 'emo' should have never been invented…
I liked the previous movies so I can't wait to see this one in a theater.
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I thought the American flag bit was so deliciously cheesy it was awesome.
Then again, I'm not American.
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loved the ending with Harry. man all he had to do was wip out that sword and cut the freakin web that venom used too strain spidey with. he didn't have to get himself insted.
then again this is a marvel movie, so there has to be a least one stupid death in it…
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I heard Toby McGuire spends the entire movie either crying, looking like he's about to, or looking like he just finished.
the bigot who thinks being an asshole is actually worth shit
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@Cap'n:
I heard Toby McGuire spends the entire movie either crying, looking like he's about to, or looking like he just finished.
The guy can't act for shit, but then again, who goes for Toby McGuire?
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Tobey isn't a bad actor, unless acting includes your face. He's a hard guy to look at and he always looks confused. Case in point, his talk with Harry about Mary Jane.
The only real action scenes I would consider great were the first encounter with Sandman and the fight in Harry's house.
The claws were a horrible edition, he definitely was not as big as he should have been which makes no sense since he was CG the majority of the time, I don't know it seems like they are able to take small villains like the Sand Man and Doc Octavious and make them totally awesome, but big time villains like Venom and the Green Goblin get totally screwed up….
Venom always had "claws" and Ock isn't small time. Up until Gwen died he was the only one worth considering as an arch enemy.
Oh, and looking back on it, I guess the American flag was kinda funny.
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@Private:
The guy can't act for shit, but then again, who goes for Toby McGuire?
You obviously don't watch movies.
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The guy can act for shit, but then again, who DOESN'T go for Tobey Maguire?
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I just don't find the guy to be that great of an actor. For a person who doesn't watch a shitload of movies, he's otherwise known as "that Spiderman guy", similar to Orlando Bloom's "oh, look, it's Pegasus".
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warning, I talk about the movie in detail for those who have not seen yet.@Yoska:
The word 'emo' should have never been invented….
Yo!
Anywho, to those who are crying Venom died; Oh come on, Did you see a body. You just know he's gonna be back for another movie. They always do this. Besides, how could they bring up such a cool charicter as venom, and not keep him around.
I liked the movie. I liked the charicters build up. I wanted something good to happen with Pete and Mary Jane. I was sad to see Peter screw it up. But that just added to the whole symbiant, thing, where he turns into a jerk.
And ya, whoever said it amplifies his geekiness. That was perfect. I got a laugh out of how lame he was. The girls on the street were just cringing.
Ok, and please explain to me why Mary Jane deserved to be slapped? I really think it was the other way around. Peter was being a total jerk there. i thought that was pretty obvios.
Anyways. I thought they really crammed a lot into this little movie, but they did write it in very well. The end was kind of cheezy, but, eh, it apealed to me. Even if it is different from the comics.
I found a few things hard to swallow. like the coincedence of eddy and spidey being at the same church at the same time.
The scientists saying "oh it's just a bird" in the sandman bit
Harry could have jumped in at the end and pushed venom out of the way, instead of going infront of his glider. (just like his dad too, how ironic)
but, hey, this is a comic book story, silly stuff like that is suposed to happen.
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Anywho, to those who are crying Venom died; Oh come on, Did you see a body. You just know he's gonna be back for another movie. They always do this. Besides, how could they bring up such a cool charicter as venom, and not keep him around.
YES! I SAW A BODY!!! I SAW EDDIE BROCKS SKELETON BURNING UP IN THE FLAMES. HE'S DEAD. D.E.A.D. DEAD!
Now Harry Osbourne on the other hand…
Also, the fact that they made Venom come from a meteor that LANDED 20 FRICKIN' FEET FROM PETER PARKER and PETER DIDN'T STOP TO GO LOOK AT IT was kinda weird.
The movie was rushed and you can tell the CEO's just wanted a movie for this summer, so they threw together Spiderman 3.
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That's one area the film messed up, minor details on Venom. Not that I'd really care for any more of him, but there was hardly an explanation for the symbiote, how it could neutralize the spider-sense, how it made Brock strong, or that it could change shape. Same way, Brock was shown to be somewhat sound mentally and simply an asshole, so it didn't make much sense for him to be any more of a villain than Harry. The character of Eddie Brock is a pretty strong Catholic, which is why he went to the church. Didn't really need to be said, but could have been.
Oh, and "it's probably just a bird." Yeah, a little wtf, but I could look past it.
EDIT: I dunno why you all take such a liking to the word "emo" when he was ironically far less caring than ever.
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I'll copy and paste what I wrote on another forum…
Considering I'm a comic purist, I though this movie was TRASH. I'm sorry, but you could make THREE movies based on Venom alone. He only gets maybe half an hour at the end of the movie? WTF. He also dies, so now there's no chance for him to come back. The only way I'm thinking they will revive venom is if they somehow are able to make the symbiote from the professor's classroom return to someones body. But still, Eddie Brock is dead. For fuck sakes, the Venom storyline started over 15 years ago in the comics, and Eddie Brock is still alive! In fact, rumours say that he will make a return in June or July. Pathetic movie representation of Venom.
Sandman was completely un-neccesary. I know that he was put there to anger Spiderman because "the true killer" of Uncle Ben was still out there. This made him want the black suit, want the power yadda yadda yadda. USELESS. They couldn't have used the whole "Mary Jane loves Harry" plot to make him angry? I mean, Spidey DID go and kick Harry's ass without any mercy. He must have been pretty angry. Why bother adding another villian? Why bother change the most important plot element of Spiderman? They could have used more time on Venom this way.
Now that I think about it, the movie would have been much better if:
- No Sandman
- They ended it when Peter and Eddie are in the church.
Think about it. The symbiote takes over Eddie's body, he's Venom, and he jumps toward the screen with that scary scream. BAM. Credits roll. NOW, we can expect an entire movie about Venom, not just 30 minutes. I mean, does one of the MOST IMPORTANT enemies in Spiderman history really deserve that much screen time? Like I said, he's still alive in the comic, and he was introduced more than 10 years ago.
Really dissapointing. 300>Spiderman 3.
Believe is song ripped from a dance craze that involves women in as little clothing as possible and crazy sex. The only thing happy-go-lucky about it is my cock.
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He only gets maybe half an hour at the end of the movie? WTF.
Actually, he gets less than 20 minutes of screen time since we see Peter Parker tearing off the symbiote costume with about 18 minutes left in the movie.
But still, Eddie Brock is dead. For fuck sakes, the Venom storyline started over 15 years ago in the comics, and Eddie Brock is still alive! In fact, rumours say that he will make a return in June or July. Pathetic movie representation of Venom.
Yeah, that movie fucked up big time there.
Now that I think about it, the movie would have been much better if:
- No Sandman
- They ended it when Peter and Eddie are in the church.
DEFINITELY. That would be awesome, but it would have been a short movie, seeing as without Sandman there was no real villain through out the film but still, Venom needed at LEAST one full movie to be a villain, but NO, they had to kill him off within FIFTEEN FRIGGIN MINUTES.
Think about it. The symbiote takes over Eddie's body, he's Venom, and he jumps toward the screen with that scary scream. BAM. Credits roll. NOW, we can expect an entire movie about Venom, not just 30 minutes. I mean, does one of the MOST IMPORTANT enemies in Spiderman history really deserve that much screen time? Like I said, he's still alive in the comic, and he was introduced more than 10 years ago.
Really dissapointing. 300>Spiderman 3.
Remember, Venom got LESS THAN 30 minutes, MUCH LESS THAN 30 minutes. Way to fail Sony…
But hey, the CG Venom was astounding, even for the much lack of screen time.
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really? I didn't see a skeleton in the flames. but I could have just not seen it. All I saw was a pile of grey, something, on the floor after the explosion.
Now that I think about it, the movie would have been much better if:
- No Sandman
- They ended it when Peter and Eddie are in the church.
I can actually agree with this. it could have worked with no sandman, and wouldn't feel so squished together. Though, I still liked that resolution in the end with spidey and sandman. and the whole villain team up, was classic comic book. :)
And ya, a venom cliff hanger would have been cool. They did it with PotC. Why not spidey.
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I heard Raimi hates the Venom character, so I have no idea why he'd try to bring him back for another movie.
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I was just thinking a while ago. When Harry got his memory back, it was like they tried to make a mini movie about Harry getting his revenge and then stopped.
Once again, I was disappoiinted that Sandman got a sappy story. Once again, the ending for Sandman was pretty stupid. He tells Spiderman that he accidently shot his Uncle because he was scared and he wanted to help his daughter. This causes Spiderman to forgive him for killing his Uncle, kidnapping his girlfriend, nearly killing him, destroying a building under construction, and helping Venom kill many policemen.
Then Spiderman just lets him drift away. That was pretty stupid. The guy killed your Uncle, almost got Mary Jane killed, and caused millions of dollars worth of damage and you let him just drift away.
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I'll copy and paste what I wrote on another forum…
Considering I'm a comic purist, I though this movie was TRASH.
Nice.
I'm sorry, but you could make THREE movies based on Venom alone.
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But still, Eddie Brock is dead. For fuck sakes, the Venom storyline started over 15 years ago in the comics, and Eddie Brock is still alive! In fact, rumours say that he will make a return in June or July. Pathetic movie representation of Venom.
Sandman and Harry were vets. The first was one of the very first supervillains, the other one of Peter's oldest friends, with a real villain destiny, not just a made up character from Sin Eater.
Venom came from 1988. He was planned at least a year before that. For convenience, let's call him 20. He was overexposed from popular demand by the early 90s, and basically retconned into some lame contradictory Punisher type anti-hero in 1993. That's fourteen years of garbage. He thrived in the whole of the 90s, where comics, you know, sunk. If anything the film did him justice, unless the DVD includes a scene of him killing a cop and then rambling about protecting innocents and eating brains.
Make the movie better? Here would be my steps.
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Make Harry a villain or hero. If you want to go in between, maybe use the fact that he's mentally insane or make him central to Spider-man. Because you know, not a whole lot of what he did could be explained away by a few words from a butler. He was kind of a terrorist.
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Get someone else to play Venom. Grace for Brock is fine, but that CG was garbage. No, it's not my opinion. Venom, as much as I hate him, is a wicked visual. You think if they thought they did the face properly they would have had him without his mask so much? Hollywood seems to HATE having anyone nearly jacked getting a role.
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NO TEAM-UPS. So, okay, some guy that looks like Spider-Man flies at you. You punch him in the stomach and start walking away? And then just take him up on some kind of terrorist offer? What was the point of making Sandman conflicted if he'd pull a Freeze/Poison Ivy with some mutant jerk that attacked him in an alley? He couldn't even be put down, really. Sandman should have just talked to Peter, maybe after an exhausting battle with Venom or something. Resolve is fine, but not after the crazy shit he did in the last act.
and the big one:
4. No Peter Parker using powers in a big crowd. Come on.
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Harry went from being a jerk, to being a good guy, to being a jerk again, to being a good guy, to dying…hmm...
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Fuck dude spoiler that. Thanks a lot >>
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I just went to see the movie this afternoon, and I can say it was quite good. Sandman stole the scene, as well as Bruce Campbell's cameo as the maitre d. Venom… I already knew that Raimi hates him, so I was not surprised that he got a small role.
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Did anyone mentions Sand Man's horrible escape from that machine? Picture this, he falls into a big metal fucking cradle of marble/machine/alien technology. If he didn't buy the "PARTICLE PLANT AHEAD, FUCKING LOOK OUT" sign, then he surely would buy that this was strange.
Right?
WRONG.
Instead, the fucker just stands there as a gargantuin machine whirs all around him. After a few minutes of going "Should I run?", he jogs straight into the spinning blades and gets knocks back, where he stays.
This was the SAME guy, who just MOMENTS before jumped a barbed fence without getting any of his clothes cuaght or anything.
@Cap'n:
I heard Raimi hates the Venom character, so I have no idea why he'd try to bring him back for another movie.
Some of you are missing this. There probably won't be a Spiderman 3 because Tobey won't be playing Spiderman, even after being offered 20 million dollars. Not to say in my best interest, but he really makes up the movie.
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I think you mean spiderman 4.
_ Originally Posted by mr.allsunday
Nice job jumping on the bandwagon there Aethos, I can only wish I was as cool as you_
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Yeah, right, sorry.
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I thought the whole movie was pretty bitchin. (you comic nerds can go straight to hell)
For an 'emo', Peter was kicking alot of ass. XD I'd totally hit that
Stan Lee got a speaking part! :O
definentally worth my $3
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Once again, I was disappoiinted that Sandman got a sappy story. Once again, the ending for Sandman was pretty stupid. He tells Spiderman that he accidently shot his Uncle because he was scared and he wanted to help his daughter. This causes Spiderman to forgive him for killing his Uncle, kidnapping his girlfriend, nearly killing him, destroying a building under construction, and helping Venom kill many policemen.
Then Spiderman just lets him drift away. That was pretty stupid. The guy killed your Uncle, almost got Mary Jane killed, and caused millions of dollars worth of damage and you let him just drift away.
this is funny because this is exactly why I DID like it. XD
not a whole lot of what he(harry) did could be explained away by a few words from a butler.
ya, I forgot about that part. he's been so mad for so long, that a few words will make it better in a few min. (but then again, this is comic stuff)
This was the SAME guy, who just MOMENTS before jumped a barbed fence without getting any of his clothes cuaght or anything.
i try to think of it as, leaving out the details as to not bore us. :)
Where was Stan Lee. I didn't know who to look for. (nor did I remember to look)
and…i thought I heard today, that they are going to do 3 more spidey movies. (forget if it was here, or on the news or what)
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I went to go get another packet of M&M's and when I came back I had missed the "emo" parker scene. Shucks, I might go see the movie again to see that…
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Oh man, I have soooo many consolidated theaters gift certificates, I can see about…maybe....8 movies? I really wanna see Spider-Man 3
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Oh man, I have soooo many consolidated theaters gift certificates, I can see about…maybe....8 movies? I really wanna see Spider-Man 3
Then see it man. It was sick nasty.
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I know, but I can't seem to find time to go to the theaters. I can just watch it on the internet(illegally).
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This was the SAME guy, who just MOMENTS before jumped a barbed fence without getting any of his clothes cuaght or anything.
Hey, maybe running from dogs, jumping fences, and falling into sand pits takes it out of you a little
Wasn't there more than one Venom, other than Brock? And what's Carnage's story?
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The old villain Scorpion is currently Venom.
Venom, the symbiote, was separated from Brock once and came to bust him out of prison. While leaving it produced an offspring as a spore. Like an asexual egg laying. It got onto his crazy ass cellmate Kletus and he became a crazier Venom, so to speak. It followed the trend of being extra strong and managed to terrorize both Venom and Spidey for a number of years, and a new hero called the Sentry destroyed him once and for all a few years ago.
I thought the whole movie was pretty bitchin. (you comic nerds can go straight to hell)
Hey, I saw it from a movie goer's perspective. I couldn't care less what they changed, because that's half the point of making over a story in another medium. I like a fresh take on something I grew up with.
And it's worth anyone's $3. But I paid $9.50 and I felt I got whatever they felt they could get away with. Not that it was godawful, but with all the buzz they definitely knew they could make half the effort and twice the money. My simple impression is just that they buckled under the pressure to top the second.
Stan Lee got a speaking part! :O
I'd buy the DVD for that. Marvel's best film would likely be something Stan Lee related.
Originally Posted by Battle Franky
Bad move, bub!
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Okay, Carnage's story
Old official story:Eddie is sent to prison with another thug named Cletus Kasady. The Symbiote comes back to Eddie, and Eddie(now Venom) busts out of jail, but is injured by the metal poles. Cletus notices the blood and touches it, then the Symbiote takes over his body, and he becomes Carnage.
Ultimate Spider-man version: Part of Peter's blood is tested in the lab, then slowly regenerates into Carnage. To survive, it sucks the life out of people, like Venom.
Okay, Next!
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I think you mean spiderman 4.
I think it should be Spider-man 3, because Spider-man 2 was more like Peter Parker the movie.
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They've already started production on Spider-man 4, and a fifth and sixth movie are planned. Probably without any original cast and/or crew.
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That is just plain scary….
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I don't mind Dunst leaving the cast, she doesn't make a very good (or hot) Mary Jane. As for Tobey, I think he's a decent Spiderman, but maybe there is someone out there better for the role.
My guess is Spiderman 4 will probably still suck either way tho.
Brawl FC: 3823 8204 8139
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WHY IS STAN LEE DOING THIS TO US!! kinda like 4kids, the most evilest evil dudes in the whole universe
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WHY IS STAN LEE DOING THIS TO US!! kinda like 4kids, the most evilest evil dudes in the whole universe
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…..that doesn't answer my question...
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Question: WHY IS STAN LEE DOING THIS TO US!
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People's use and definitions of the word emo are gettig out of control. You know something's wrong with everyone when we refer to stoic characters as emo, a major oxymoron.
Emo Spidey. Blah. Peter strutting down the street, mocking Harry by calling him Goblin Jr., cracking jokes, showing off for the public while getting the key to the city, and saying "They love me…" Yeah, real emo right there.
One thing I couldn't understand is why the meteorite didn't break up in the Earth's atmosphere. And honestly, Spidey, what were you thinking when you decided to kiss Gwen on stage when you knew MJ was watching?
The only action scene I didn't like was Peter's fight with Harry near the building at night. The CGI was pretty obvious there. The rest were pretty good.
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Speaking of which, Why is Parker using Spidey skills in public, WITHOUT a mask?
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I thought they did extremely with Peter's big head. It seemed like he kissed Gwen to be a big shot way more than because she was freaking hotter than any girl that will ever be in your science class.
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I waited 'til after credits. Nothing. At least not in the Japanese version.
I thought you said you get movies months after us? :wassat:
Nah there was nothing at the end(i wish there was)
But i swear i laugh so hard when Parker wore the emo hair
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They've already started production on Spider-man 4, and a fifth and sixth movie are planned. Probably without any original cast and/or crew.
not listening! la la la la la
and greg normally does get movies later, but for some reason, they decided to release spidey 3 everywhere else first.
