When the game when it came out, I was young and foolish and made a night elf hunter. Since hindsight is 20/20, I wish I could choose another race. Its not something I'm going to cry at night over though.
World of Warcraft (+Burning Crusade)
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LC: He teams up to go to the auction house?
… what a sissy =P
Cosmic: haha =P Does the bloodelves even have males? arent they just females and "metrosexuals? (yeah just watched that southpark episode)
Kai: your fault was choosing the alliance =)
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I like my Night Elf Rogue, thank you. Don't understand why you hate Alliance so much. I have a Blood Elf Mage on Moonguard (the RP server) and it's okay, too, but I much prefer my Alliance characters.
And for the record, I solo everything. Only Horde have to team up for anything other than an instance, to raid pointless outposts, and to gank people. :-P
Plus, Night Elf Druid Tanks in Bear Form ftw.
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@Fire Fist:
I like my Night Elf Rogue, thank you. Don't understand why you hate Alliance so much. I have a Blood Elf Mage on Moonguard (the RP server) and it's okay, too, but I much prefer my Alliance characters.
And for the record, I solo everything. Only Horde have to team up for anything other than an instance, to raid pointless outposts, and to gank people. :-P
Plus, Night Elf Druid Tanks in Bear Form ftw.
wow look at that, you indirectly answered that yourself.
playing one faction makes you identify with that and then you (jokeingly) bash the other faction. (but it's mostly because a suprisingly large number of nightelves/rogues on alliance side were different kinds of -tards on my server)
I'm going to simply ignore that last bolded sentance and instead ask what's the ratio of alliance/horde on your server?
We had raids of alliance camp blackrock mountain and kill anything that would try to get to any instance there.
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@Fire Fist:
I like my Night Elf Rogue, thank you.
It's okay, lots of people lie to themselves.
@Fire Fist:
Only Horde have to team up for anything other than an instance, to raid pointless outposts, and to gank people. :-P
It's called World PVP. Get over it.
If you walk around solo and I've got two of my buddies with me, of course we're going to team up and destroy your existence.
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Kai: your fault was choosing the alliance =)
When we all got the game when it came out, the side we chose came down to a coin toss. I've played extensively on both sides, so I have no bias at all.
Also, you managed to screw up the spelling of a 3 letter name. Congrats.
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hahha damn sorry about that I'l try again: Kei.
better? =)
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THE PAIN INSIDE CAN NEVER BE HEALED
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@Cyringohn:
It's called World PVP. Get over it.
If you walk around solo and I've got two of my buddies with me, of course we're going to team up and destroy your existence.
Yeah, cause there's a point to doing that when it yields no honor. PvP is all fine and dandy, but when killing me does nothing but waste my time, it's just assholic more than anything.
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@Fire Fist:
Yeah, cause there's a point to doing that when it yields no honor. PvP is all fine and dandy, but when killing me does nothing but waste my time, it's just assholic more than anything.
What the fuck, who cares about honor? I play PVP to, you know, have Player vs. Player.
If you're a hostile creature and you're right next to me, I'ma kill you. I don't pay $15 a month to ignore every Alliance I come across while riding my mount.
Moreover, all I really have to say is: PVP server. You knew what you were getting into when you chose to play on one.
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You knew what you were getting into when you chose to play on one.
nope. and I really did not want to reroll when i had finally realized how crappy it was.
FFA: You are really naive if you think that Alliance doesn't do everything that the horde does.
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nope.
Yes, you did. By choosing to play on a PVP server, you agree to be satisfied with getting killed at any time.
If you didn't know, it's your own fault for not checking to see what type of realms have what type of rules.
All in all: it's your fault.
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Sure it's my fault, but the honour system wasn't implemented when i started playing and as I have already said previously in this thread I thought it would reduce asshole behaviour instead of promote it.
That is atleast what I gathered from their "advertisement" of it.
So no, I was not aware of how crappy it would be. No one was, although a bunch probably hoped it would be like it is today.
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How would playing on a PVP server reduce the amount of people that want to kill you? That makes no sense.
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Not reduce it compared to a normal realm but limit the kind of behaviour from assholes on the pvp realm.
When they first were talkjing about an honour system the dishonour was sounding like it would deter lvl 60s from camping lowbies in shimmering flats, stranglethorn vale, desolace etc etc.
I figured it could also deter against rogues that waited untill you engaged mobs untill they attacked by makeing you tagged to the mob or something.
the reason i rolled pvp was that i had friends from the beta that were rolling there. but I never really got past STV (and many alliance never even reached stv) so i never got to see how bad people really were.
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No, people who kill low levels, as well as camp them, do it because they want to do it.
No changes to the game's mechanics are going to change their desire to kill you. They do it for fun, not for any type of reward.
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So if they get ressurection sickness type debuff or worse so that they die to the people they were trying to camp they still wont stop?
when did you start playing gohn? had they already implemented the honour system when you started?
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I started a little bit before the new Honor system.
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the new system? have they changed it or are you talking about when you first started to get honour from kills?
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I started right before they change the honor system to a currency-esque point system, as opposed to being based on rank and HK.
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On my sever, Alliance outnumber Horde 3 to one and the Alliance are obsessed over gathering crews of level 70s to wipe out Crossroads and gank level 10-15's whereas horde there mostly doesn't really give a damn. I never understood the appeal of "woohoo let's kill guards that are 30 levels below us and players that can't even fight back". Also, you really learn to hate the other faction when doing dailies, when you get people practically jumping in front of you to get that stupid Nethermine Ravager or when the other faction ninjas your escort in skettis right in front of you while you wait one second for your friend to get there.
And I can't tell you how many times I've made a friendly gesture at alliance players or even helped them only to have /spit or /rude thrown at me.
So most of the time, it's no more ms. nice guy.WoW is a game that is MEANT for teaming up with other people as well as fighting with other people, if it wasn't, it wouldn't be an MMPORPG. I find that people who spend most of their time soloing are the people that you get into an instance at level 70 and they are complete tards that make you wonder if they bought their character off ebay because they never learned all etiquette of playing the game in groups.
PS - Night elf males are fugly
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PS - Night elf males are fugly
You have no right to say anything remotely close to this.
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PS - All elves have fugly eyebrows.
other then that I agree with everything you said Cosmic.
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I understand what you're saying Gohn, and you're right about it being my decision since I'm in a PvP server. The point being, though, that level 70s ganking low level people for the hell of that and raiding pointless outposts (Okay, something like Astranaar I can understand, but neutral crap like Marshal's Refuge, Various Argent Dawn Camps… cmon, now). I guess it can be fun once in a while, and if you're passing by someone about your level, that's one thing. (Not that I care, I'll just blind you and vanish and you'll be there scratching your butt). But it's like Cosmic is saying. What's the point in ganking people 30 levels lower than you? It gets old after a while when you're trying to do some quests peacefully and some jackass blows your party up repeatedly. If they do it once and go away, that's one thing, but camping people is just dumb.
That said, I'm gonna be saving like hell for my flying mount.
And Night Elf Males are supposed to be ugly. Better ugly ass-kicker elves than pretty boy power mad elves, yup.
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@Cyringohn:
You have no right to say anything remotely close to this.
You gonna tell me they aren't? They make trolls like hot hunks of manmeat.
What is up with all the elf eyebrows anyway? They look like they could pierce your throat with the right angle.
@Fire Fist:
And Night Elf Males are supposed to be ugly. Better ugly ass-kicker elves than pretty boy power mad elves, yup.
Aw, you're just jealous because you don't get to dance like Napoleon Dynamite.
I'm also a fan of Cameron Clarke.That said, I'm gonna be saving like hell for my flying mount.
Regular or epic?
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Have any of you ever been to the East Plaguelands at all? I'm too low of a level to go there, but I can't wait to get some PvP action!
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Yeah, I'm level 70 now, I leveled in the Eastern Plaguelands in the level 50s…don't care too much for that place, so I spent a minimal amount of time there. Keep in mind I'm not on a pvp server, mine is PVE, so if I want PVP action I either go to a battle ground or the world pvp objectives in Outland. I never did the towers in EP. I love Halaa for some reason. Bombing people is fun.
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So I'm assuming that it would be extremely stupid for low-level players to even think about going to the East Plaguelands since it is most likely populated by high-level players such as yourself, right CosmicDebris?
To think I wanted to go there soon even though I'm only at level 8…
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You gonna tell me they aren't? They make trolls like hot hunks of manmeat.
What is up with all the elf eyebrows anyway? They look like they could pierce your throat with the right angle.
They're Nori. (If you don't get this joke, watch more Anime)
Aw, you're just jealous because you don't get to dance like Napoleon Dynamite.
I'm also a fan of Cameron Clarke.The best is Draenai dancing, actually. Who would've thought that huge, Eastern Europe accented Aliens could dance?
Regular or epic?
Regular. I'm only 61, but I just got enough for my Epic Mount (Hard work; I didn't cave in and buy gold). After I get all blues and purples that I can use till 70, All my money is going into regular and epic flying mounts.
Then, Once I cap out Leatherworking and make everything I've wanted to make, I'm gonna redo my professions to Mining and Engineering, and hopefully with a little luck, build the epic engineering flying mount.
I wish I hadn't started so late… This guy in my old guild on the server has an Ahn Qiraj Battle Tank and likes to rub it in everyone's face.
And LC, Eastern Plaguelands is all right. I usually use it to grind Argent Dawn Rep, since most of the gear or monetary rewards are vastly inferior to outlands. Though, Strathholme is a fun instance to run.
That said, I can't wait for Karazahn when I hit 70. Playing Battle Chess? Awesome stuff.
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So I'm assuming that it would be extremely stupid for low-level players to even think about going to the East Plaguelands since it is most likely populated by high-level players such as yourself, right CosmicDebris?
To think I wanted to go there soon even though I'm only at level 8…
Um…yeah...forget about the higher level players, just the regular old creatures wandering around there will aggro at you from 20 yards away and kill you in one shot. Different zones are intended for different level players, so you'll want to move on to Silverpine next, and then Hillsbrad, and so on, if you wander into a level that is too high for you, it will just mean death.
@Fire Fist:
They're Nori. (If you don't get this joke, watch more Anime)
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Regular. I'm only 61, but I just got enough for my Epic Mount (Hard work; I didn't cave in and buy gold). After I get all blues and purples that I can use till 70, All my money is going into regular and epic flying mounts.
I would advise against buy blues and purples from the Auction House once you're in Outland. The quests and instances in outland, and PVP, will get you better stuff. I actually had enough gold to buy my flying mount right when I turned 70 just from farming and questing. The epic was not so easy. I started doing the Skettis and Ogril'a dailies as soon as I got my flying mount and it took me a couple of months to get the 5000 gold for the epic.
Then, Once I cap out Leatherworking and make everything I've wanted to make, I'm gonna redo my professions to Mining and Engineering, and hopefully with a little luck, build the epic engineering flying mount.
Sad thing about some of the professions, they end up costing you money to level because the high level mats are so expensive. If you're going to put that much work into it, you might as well keep it and see what patterns come out in the next expansion, or just start over as soon as possible.
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Thanks for the advice CosmicDebris! Damn, I really want to engage in PvP without having any damn monsters ruining it.
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@Fire Fist:
that level 70s ganking low level people for the hell of that and raiding pointless outposts (Okay, something like Astranaar I can understand, but neutral crap like Marshal's Refuge, Various Argent Dawn Camps… cmon, now).
PVP Server.
@Fire Fist:
I guess it can be fun once in a while, and if you're passing by someone about your level, that's one thing. (Not that I care, I'll just blind you and vanish and you'll be there scratching your butt). But it's like Cosmic is saying. What's the point in ganking people 30 levels lower than you? It gets old after a while when you're trying to do some quests peacefully and some jackass blows your party up repeatedly.
PVP Server.
@Fire Fist:
If they do it once and go away, that's one thing, but camping people is just dumb.
PVP Server.
@Fire Fist:
Better ugly ass-kicker elves than pretty boy power mad elves, yup.
Night Elves are actually pretty vile in the Warcraft story. They purposefully attacked the peaceful Zandalarian [the first Trolls] tribe and caused the Trolls to split into war-like factions, often halt beneficial war advancement to protect a few fucking trees, and go out of their way to have a very sexist system of society.
Night Elves are pretty much the opposite of "ass-kickers," seeing as how they hole up in forests like little pussies and think of themselves as superior little dick munchers.
They make trolls like hot hunks of manmeat.
Trolls aren't hot hunks of manmeat?
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Thanks for the advice CosmicDebris! Damn, I really want to engage in PvP without having any damn monsters ruining it.
You can start doing battlegrounds at level 10, I think (warson gulch). But it's probably best to wait until you're 17-19…a level 19 against a level 10 is probably not so fun, particularly since that bracket is full of twinks (meaning people who spend tons of money to get the best gear possible with enchants and just stay at that level and pvp)
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PVP is set up into brackets: 10-19, 20-29, etc.
You can PVP at those low levels, but each bracket is filled with twinks, which basically means that you'll need to get the same gear they do so you can play in that bracket without dying utterly.
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@Cyringohn:
Night Elves are actually pretty vile in the Warcraft story. They purposefully attacked the peaceful Zandalarian [the first Trolls] tribe and caused the Trolls to split into war-like factions, often halt beneficial war advancement to protect a few fucking trees, and go out of their way to have a very sexist system of society.
Night Elves are pretty much the opposite of "ass-kickers," seeing as how they hole up in forests like little pussies and think of themselves as superior little dick munchers.
Well, the Blood Elves aren't any better, considering how fickle they are with their alliances. All they really care about is fixing the Sunwell and becoming immortal again. They keep switching sides… at one point, they were working with the Night Elves and the Alliance, and now, for no apparent reason, they're Horde. Probably because of Arthas betraying them and yadda yadda, but they should've realized at that point that Arthas was (is) scourge and had nothing to do with Lordaeron anymore.
Plus, Illidain > Kael'thas, so Nyaaah.
Oh, and Cosmic, I've been grinding Hellfire Ramps and Blood Furnace like crazy and getting blues... outland quests, too. It seems the easiest way to make money is just to run instances, really... the money drops from the Fel Orcs make me at least 20-30 gold per run. It's nice. Can't imagine when I do Heroics.
Playing a Rogue is hardest because the only conceptual way to heal myself is to blind the target and then bandage myself while it's disoriented. Potions, too. But I always play the hardest jobs first. Next I'm doing Druid, that should be fun. I think I'll start a Tauren Druid on Moonguard, too.
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@Fire Fist:
Well, the Blood Elves aren't any better, considering how fickle they are with their alliances. All they really care about is fixing the Sunwell and becoming immortal again. They keep switching sides… at one point, they were working with the Night Elves and the Alliance, and now, for no apparent reason, they're Horde. Probably because of Arthas betraying them and yadda yadda, but they should've realized at that point that Arthas was (is) scourge and had nothing to do with Lordaeron anymore.
Um, actually they switched to the Horde because the Alliance are a bunch of bigots that refused to help them after they were slaughtered by the Scourge, and some dick faced Grand Marshall named Garithos jacked Kael'thas around until he didn't have any choice but to accept help from the Naga, which the Alliance took as treason. They had nothing against the Alliance…it was the Alliance that had a problem with them.
They aren't much better, no, but if there's one thing that bugs me about a lot of alliance players it's that they just assume that because the opposite faction has things like orcs and trolls in it, that their faction is somehow good and holy when in fact it is full of their own acts of atrocities.
Plus, Illidain > Kael'thas, so Nyaaah.
Yes, in terms of psychopathic qualities, power-madness, and betraying his own people, Illidan definitely wins.
Oh, and Cosmic, I've been grinding Hellfire Ramps and Blood Furnace like crazy and getting blues… outland quests, too. It seems the easiest way to make money is just to run instances, really... the money drops from the Fel Orcs make me at least 20-30 gold per run. It's nice. Can't imagine when I do Heroics.
Oh, hehe, heroics will cost you more money than you make because of the repair bill of wiping repeatedly with all purples. My repair bill for Heroic Arcatraz was close to 50 gold. But then you also have the daily dungeons and battlegrounds, which you can get gold from.
Playing a Rogue is hardest because the only conceptual way to heal myself is to blind the target and then bandage myself while it's disoriented. Potions, too. But I always play the hardest jobs first.
No…rogues are EASY. My main is a rogue. The only thing easier to play than a rogue is a hunter.
Want hard? try leveling a priest or paladin. And druids are hella complicated. Leveling warriors can be pretty mind-numbing too. At least a rogue can vanish in trouble. Warriors? You have to die like a man (or er, woman). -
Uh, anybody who thinks a Rogue is "hard" is… well, I won't get into that. Rogues are constantly pampered by Blizzard, and Stealth allows them to easily breeze through a lot of troublesome factors in World of Warcraft. I leveled a Rogue to 70, so I know just how fucking easy it was to OOPS EVASION, OOPS VANISH, OOPS SPRINT, OOPS CLOAK OF SHADOWS, OOPS BLIND, OOPS OOPS OOPS.
The best way to get gold is to just do Outland quests. Almost each one nets you 12 gold when you're Level 70.
But yeah, the Alliance "has a problem" with everybody, largely because they're extremely quick to point fingers and go OH GOD YOU'RE EVIL AND NOT HUMAN I MUST SLAY YOU NOW, despite the fact that the Horde pretty much just wants to be left alone and recover; each race was pretty much almost wiped out by one force or another, whether it be demons, Murlocs, etc.
Just look at Alterac Valley. The entire plot of that instance is that Vaandar Stormpike wants to excavate ancient Dwarven heritage and shit, and he's willing to fucking invade sacred Orc territory to do it. Balinda Stonehearth is about the biggest bitch biscuit I've ever seen. "LOL YOU UNCOUTH TRASH WILL BE ERASED FROM ALTERAC VALLEY, LOLOLOL"
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Um, actually they switched to the Horde because the Alliance are a bunch of bigots that refused to help them after they were slaughtered by the Scourge, and some dick faced Grand Marshall named Garithos jacked Kael'thas around until he didn't have any choice but to accept help from the Naga, which the Alliance took as treason. They had nothing against the Alliance…it was the Alliance that had a problem with them.
Yeah, I knew that Garithos was a real dick to them, but he was killed by Sylvanas' henchman. That still doesn't explain their hostility toward the Night Elves, considering at one point Stormrage and Kael'thas were allies.
They aren't much better, no, but if there's one thing that bugs me about a lot of alliance players it's that they just assume that because the opposite faction has things like orcs and trolls in it, that their faction is somehow good and holy when in fact it is full of their own acts of atrocities.
Yeah, I'm not saying the Alliance aren't bad, either. The Orcs really messed up the Night Elves but the Night Elves really messed up the Tauren; The Humans enslaved, tortured, and brutally slaughtered the Orcs. They all have their redeeming qualities and their evil ones; even the Forsaken are known to be noble at times.
Oh, hehe, heroics will cost you more money than you make because of the repair bill of wiping repeatedly with all purples. My repair bill for Heroic Arcatraz was close to 50 gold. But then you also have the daily dungeons and battlegrounds, which you can get gold from.
I figured as much… which is why I'm hoping that in a later patch or in WotLK, they'll let you repair your armor. Hell, I'd be okay with it if it was just that Leatherworkers could only repair leather, Tailors could only do Cloth armor, etc, etc, as long as we can repair armor in some capacity.
No…rogues are EASY. My main is a rogue. The only thing easier to play than a rogue is a hunter.
Want hard? try leveling a priest or paladin. And druids are hella complicated. Leveling warriors can be pretty mind-numbing too. At least a rogue can vanish in trouble. Warriors? You have to die like a man (or er, woman).I'm not talking hard in terms of mechanics. Rogues are pretty simple when it comes to that. I'm talking in terms of competing with other classes… Until I hit 66 and get Cloak of Shadows, I'm still cursing Fear to High Heaven... Mages just like to toy with us. We can't exactly vanish when we're spam feared and being zapped... not fun times, at all.
Have you done Karazahn yet? My friend seems pretty psyched, he just got his attunement finished for it. He said it's pretty ugly in there; the Curator one-shotted him.
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Thanks for the advice CosmicDebris! Damn, I really want to engage in PvP without having any damn monsters ruining it.
The towers in EPL was pretty deserted on my PVP server even when they were new. Every once in a while someone would cap a tower completly without resistance. sometime someone might have come to defend it and then the guy trying to cap just slip off and try another tower.
I cant really imagine that they are active nowadays unless they redesigned that.
OFC the reason it might have been deserted on my server was because the horde was vastly outnumbered and there was no point whatsoever.
The silithus "outdoor pvp" mechanics was pretty broken too.
And this was the time when the top dungeons was the Anh Quiraj and Naxxramas dungeons, so everyone was in those zones as well from time to time.
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@Fire Fist:
Yeah, I knew that Garithos was a real dick to them, but he was killed by Sylvanas' henchman. That still doesn't explain their hostility toward the Night Elves, considering at one point Stormrage and Kael'thas were allies.
I don't think they have any particular hostility towards them that they don't have for anyone else. Illidan and Kael'thas both just sort of went a little nutzo. That's why you have the Scryers in Shattrath. Kael'thas used to be a very compassionate leader that just wanted to help his people, but he ended up going crazy and getting help from the Burning Legion, and when some of the Blood Elves realized this, they broke away and swore allegiance to the Naaru.
I figured as much… which is why I'm hoping that in a later patch or in WotLK, they'll let you repair your armor. Hell, I'd be okay with it if it was just that Leatherworkers could only repair leather, Tailors could only do Cloth armor, etc, etc, as long as we can repair armor in some capacity.
Haha, we were talking about that the day…like why can't I at least repair an item I MADE myself? Why do I have to go to some plate merchant to fix my leather tunic?
I'm not talking hard in terms of mechanics. Rogues are pretty simple when it comes to that. I'm talking in terms of competing with other classes… Until I hit 66 and get Cloak of Shadows, I'm still cursing Fear to High Heaven... Mages just like to toy with us. We can't exactly vanish when we're spam feared and being zapped... not fun times, at all.
I don't know, I still can't agree. Rogues have a lot of escape routes that other classes don't have. Get isignia/medallian of the horde if you want another. At least you can use vanish to break out of snares and frost novas. And at least you're not wearing cloth. Rogues aren't meant to handle multple targets at once, they sneak up on the clothies and stunlock.
Have you done Karazahn yet? My friend seems pretty psyched, he just got his attunement finished for it. He said it's pretty ugly in there; the Curator one-shotted him.
Yeah, I've seen every boss except Netherspite. With a good group, it's a lot of fun. The key to beating most of the bosses in there, other than being organized and knowing what their attacks do, is a LOT of dps. If you don't have enough dps to burn down the astral flares that fly around on the Curator before more start coming out, you won't make it. Same thing with Illhoof and the demon chains that sacrifice a member of the group. And having a warlocks on that fight is a must. I think the boss I hate the most is Prince Malchezaar, just for the luck factor with the fire totems popping up in random spots. And the enfeeble debuff that knocks your health down to 1% so you have to run away before he does a big arcane blast is really annoying for melee.
I didn't really start playing Warcraft until right before BC came out, so I never got to try out those old world raids. Nobody wants to do them anymore.
Maybe I'll go over to EPL and start capping towers for the heck of it, lol
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@Fire Fist:
I'm talking in terms of competing with other classes… Until I hit 66 and get Cloak of Shadows, I'm still cursing Fear to High Heaven...
A Warlock shouldn't be out of stun lock long enough to Fear you, honestly.
Rogues >>>>>>> Warlocks. Cloak of Shadows just seals the deal, is all.
@Fire Fist:
Have you done Karazahn yet? My friend seems pretty psyched, he just got his attunement finished for it. He said it's pretty ugly in there; the Curator one-shotted him.
Karazhan is really simple. If you have S1 gear, you should be able to breeze through everything in there.
Our guild isn't even a raiding guild, yet we can down Nightbane whenever we want.
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Karazhan. is that the one in dead wind pass?
is that 2 instances or 1?
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Yes, that's the one. It's just one instance, a 10-man.
The problem happens when you have a bunch of people who have freshly turned level 70 in level 60'sh level greens wanting to do Karazhan. o_O The even worse problem is since they lowered the faction requirement for heroics to honored, you have people in greens trying to do them, and that is very very bad. I'm actually glad that they did that, because I'm still not even revered with some factions, but now you really want to check people up on the armory before you PUG to make sure you're not with some hunter wearing "+ to spellcasting" mail and crappy greens.
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ooh hunter in +spell casting? sweet then he can heal his pet more effectivly =) no need for a healer just let his pet maintank. =P =P =P
we had a lvl 60 raiding hunter that refused to wear mail. all his gear was leather. It didn't have any superior stats in any way but he used it all the same.
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ooh hunter in +spell casting? sweet then he can heal his pet more effectivly =) no need for a healer just let his pet maintank. =P =P =P
Actually, I was told recently that hunters can no longer wear mail that has +healing at all, because apparently there were hunters getting all that gear and actually having their pets tank bosses, so they put a stop to it.
we had a lvl 60 raiding hunter that refused to wear mail. all his gear was leather. It didn't have any superior stats in any way but he used it all the same.
That's kind of weird. I do know that sometimes hunters will take leather for the stats if they're superior to what they have, but just refusing to wear mail, shrug. Almost as bad as the level 70 Paladin that claimed he used all cloth for his healing set and called people n00bs for not "getting it". You know, they have Holy Paladin gear out there…
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Cloth paladins did occur (without people going WTF?) in the high end alliance guilds on my server before i quit. (i think. i heard about it at least.)
I think the hunter limitation was put in when i was still playing, or there was atleast rumors about it. But spell hunters never got that good that it was a problem iirc.
hmm can they wear leather with +healing? STEAL THE DRUID GEAR! =)
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Cloth paladins did occur (without people going WTF?) in the high end alliance guilds on my server before i quit. (i think. i heard about it at least.)
I've only heard this on the Alliance side, oddly enough. Maybe in earlier times they didn't make as much Holy Paladin gear, but I certainly don't see anyone having to resort to cloth now. The stats on gear have been evolving a lot too. Less +spirit, more +healing and magical effects stuff.
I think the hunter limitation was put in when i was still playing, or there was atleast rumors about it. But spell hunters never got that good that it was a problem iirc.
Yeah, well, Hunters should do what hunters designed for: be good ranged dps and CC, not be some kind of odd subpar tank+healer combo. Like the ridiculous rogue tank idea that exists in some small servers. Rogues r not 4 tank.
hmm can they wear leather with +healing? STEAL THE DRUID GEAR! =)
Hehe, probably not, it's probably the +healing stat that locks them out.
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PUGing Karazhan is a big no-no.
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Heh…I wouldn't want to try it, just finding 10 people with the right balance would be a big pain in the ass. And then hoping everyone knows all the fights so you don't have to explain every one. GAWD DAMN DON'T MOVE ON FLAME WREATH $#@$#@ I see people doing it in trade/general chat all the time though.