@AD-HD:
Yes it is.
And uh.. When you are in Whitebeards level, you are one of the greatest pirates.
Go read Phenom post.
and where is it stated that they are the 4 strongest. HUH stop makin s**t up.
@AD-HD:
Yes it is.
And uh.. When you are in Whitebeards level, you are one of the greatest pirates.
Go read Phenom post.
and where is it stated that they are the 4 strongest. HUH stop makin s**t up.
Cause he did NOT find One Piece yet!!!! The fact still remains that he was able to RIVAL Gold Roger and that is why he has his title.
One Piece didn't exist before Roger created it. If Roger was able to amass the world's greatest treasure and Whitebeard didn't, then it's clear who's stronger. There's no debating this.
What?:wassat: Shanks was a RIVAL to the World's Greatest with BOTH arms why would Hawkeye's get the title when he already had it?
Prove to me he had the title before Shanks lost his arm.
Wrong…..
Okay, so he did comment on it. Big deal.
The Emperors are NOT stated to be the World's Strongest Pirates, Only Whitebeard has that title. Also the Shichibukai are a power that are equal with your precious Emperors, so I don't know where you are getting this stronger than the Shichibukai crap from.
Garp said they rule above all other pirates almost like Emperors. Mihawk's not "Fran the daisy picker", he's a pirate. He's not an exception.
Yeah, because sickness makes you have bigass scars on your body…
It's not fact till it's proven, but it's pretty obvious Roger was stronger, even in physical strength.
You have NO FACTS to back you up! that all speculation.
In your fanboy imagination. Nowhere does Whitebeard diss him, all he does is question if Shanks is there for peaceful reasons.
Phenom posted the qoute, you just got pwned.
Uh, yeah, so if Whitebeard is the world's strongest pirate, they are, too.
NO Whitebeard is the only one with the Strongest Man Tilte Fanboy.
Man pwning you dont count anymore.
Besides, Garp says they rule above all others almost like emperors. That means they're above ANY other pirates, INCLUDING Mihawk.
No fanboy your wrong and all you do is make s**t up.
Garp said that only the Marnies and the 7 Gods of the Sea can fight against them.
Spoon feed!
That mean the 7 gods can equal them, and the Marines can equal them,
any other group that fight them will fall.
Shichibukai are a power that are equal with your precious Emperors, so I don't know where you are getting this stronger than the Shichibukai crap from.
Where that is stated. Show me.
It is only stated that Shichibukais and Marine HQ are equals. Nothing more.
One Piece didn't exist before Roger created it. If Roger was able to amass the world's greatest treasure and Whitebeard didn't, then it's clear who's stronger. There's no debating this.
We don't even know if one piece is treasure, roger is famous because he is the only one to reach raftel.
Garp said they rule above all other pirates almost like Emperors. Mihawk's not "Fran the daisy picker", he's a pirate. He's not an exception.
Mihawk is as much a pirate as zoro is just being where he needed to be so he could achieve greatest swordsman. He is most certainly just abusing shichibukai for his own needs.
Mihawk is a world power now anyway so he isn't a just a pirate.
EDIT. AD-HD if the shichibukai=WG and the WG=yonkou what does that mean? If the yonkou were stronger than the WG, the WG would have been crushed by now.
You have NO FACTS to back you up! that all speculation.
Oh, so Imagined that Whitebeard said that the scars Roger gave him were throbbing?
Phenom posted the qoute, you just got pwned.
No, I didn't. You're stupid, kid. Whitebeard didn't insult Shanks, he was questioning if he had peaceful intentions or not.
NO Whitebeard is the only one with the Strongest Man Tilte Fanboy.
Man pwning you dont count anymore.
I'm not a fanboy, you are. Garp said they're above all other pirates and are on the same level. You're saying they're not. That's YOUR speculation. Whitebeard is the strongest of them, but they're otherwise relatively the same strength.
No fanboy your wrong and all you do is make s**t up.
Garp said that only the Marnies and the 7 Gods of the Sea can fight against them.
Spoon feed!
That mean the 7 gods can equal them, and the Marines can equal them,
any other group that fight them will fall.
You just owned yourself. Marines AND the 7 gods can fight against them. Together. Plural. And it was clearly stated they're ABOVE ALL OTHER PIRATES. Mihawk is a bloody pirate, so you fail.
@Fire Fist:
One Piece didn't exist before Roger created it. If Roger was able to amass the world's greatest treasure and Whitebeard didn't, then it's clear who's stronger. There's no debating this.
Who cares about Treasure in a Damn fight!:wassat: Whitebeard has the title because he was able to Rival Roger in battle.
Prove to me he had the title before Shanks lost his arm.
本来左ききであるシャンクスはかつて、右の腰に長剣を携えていた。 ミホークとライバルだった過去からみて も、その剣の実力は世界でもトップクラスだ ったのだろう
"At first, the left-handed Shanks had simply carried his sword on the right side. When he was a rival of Mihawk, he was regarded as having some of the world's top-class skills"
Shanks was regarded as having some of the World's top class skills because of his rivalry with Hawkeye's. That sounds like to me Hawkeye's has had the title for a while now, or both of them were dueling for it.
Garp said they rule above all other pirates almost like Emperors. Mihawk's not "Fran the daisy picker", he's a pirate. He's not an exception.
Hawkeye's is apart of a power that can Withstand the damn Emperors, of course they do NOT rule over the Shichibukai.
Once again… a "Fire Fist" Ace vs WHITEBEARD thread...
but one thing for WHITEBEARD... you call others fanboys but I have the opinion you are the biggest one here...
Your only real argument is that Oda stated that he is the "world strongest man" but...
Oda stated too that Shanks and the other two Yonkous are on the same level...
Mihawk has the title of world strongest swordman... maybe he is or Shanks is stronger but before we start to flame each other I will say it once again...
Shut up and wait what will happen nad don't start to fight each other cause you have different point of views... only Oda knows the truth...
EDIT...
For the Mihawk thing... I THINK he is on Younkou-level but the reason is, that he is "only" a Shichibukai has no crew...
I don't understand some dudes here.
It is clearly stated that Yonkous are "Four Strongest Pirates" and still… still they are arguing against it.
Who cares about Treasure in a Damn fight!:wassat: Whitebeard has the title because he was able to Rival Roger in battle.
No, the treasure is part of it. Being rivals includes rivals of fame, power, importance. Roger had the slight edge over Whitebeard and amassed everything. For chrissakes, these are the first words said in the entire series. There's no debating Roger was stronger than Whitebeard.
[Wealth, fame, and power. There was once a man in this world who had all of these.]
Bam. First words of One Piece.
Shanks was regarded as having some of the World's top class skills because of his rivalry with Hawkeye's. That sounds like to me Hawkeye's has had the title for a while now, or both of them were dueling for it.
The latter. The statement you quoted doesn't prove that Mihawk had the title. It's more apparent that neither had the title, but Shanks losing his arm made him forfeit the title to Mihawk, because Mihawk would never bother to challenge Shanks, even if he was stronger or not.
Hawkeye's is apart of a power that can Withstand the damn Emperors, of course they do NOT rule over the Shichibukai.
He's part of a power that'a allied with another power and has the support of the entire world. But that doesn't change the fact that he's a pirate, and the Emperors were stated to be on the level of Whitebeard and above all other pirates. As part of the organization, he's able to withstand against the Yonkou. As an individual, the emperors are above the Shichibukai.
Whitebeard is the only one with the Strongest Man Tilte
You have to take in mind that your source is Buggy.
Buggy the clown.
I like to add this:
http://www.onepiecehq.com/manga-viewer/index.php?twg_album=Volume+45%2FChapter+432&twg_show=One_Piece-432-07.jpg
There. Garp said it very clearly.
"One of the four most powerful pirates alongside the Whitebeard."
Oh, so Imagined that Whitebeard said that the scars Roger gave him were throbbing?
who said i was talking about his scar?????
I was talking about his sickness.
No, I didn't. You're stupid, kid. Whitebeard didn't insult Shanks, he was questioning if he had peaceful intentions or not.
Phenom posted the qoute, your ignoreing Oda now!
I'm not a fanboy, you are. Garp said they're above all other pirates and are on the same level. You're saying they're not. That's YOUR speculation. Whitebeard is the strongest of them, but they're otherwise relatively the same strength.
Whitebeard is the strongest yonkou…..... he set the bar for the yonkou.
You just owned yourself. Marines AND the 7 gods can fight against them. Together. Plural. And it was clearly stated they're ABOVE ALL OTHER PIRATES. Mihawk is a bloody pirate, so you fail.
NO Fanboy stop makin s**t up.
Grap said and not together.
Once again… a "Fire Fist" Ace vs WHITEBEARD thread...
but one thing for WHITEBEARD... you call others fanboys but I have the opinion you are the biggest one here...
Your only real argument is that Oda stated that he is the "world strongest man" but…
**Whitebeard set the BAR FOR THE YONKOU.
and your saying what oda states is wrong LOL your sad.
**
If the emporers are above the shichibukai why does garp say only the WG and the shichibukai may withstand their power!
And don't say he means combined because 1st of all he doesn't say that and 2nd there would be only two world powers since if they were combined they wouldn't be separate powers
Whitebeard:
I like to add this:
http://www.onepiecehq.com/manga-view…ece-432-07.jpg
There. Garp said it very clearly.
"One of the four most powerful pirates alongside the Whitebeard."
Try to read sometimes.
who said i was talking about his scar?????
I was talking about his sickness.
So I imagined he's hooked up to a crapload of IV tubes and that a nurse commented on his health?
Phenom posted the qoute, your ignoreing Oda now!
Ah, no, I'm not. Whitebeard was not "Dissing" Shanks, for the 3rd time. He was doubting Shanks had peaceful intentions.
Whitebeard is the strongest yonkou…..... he set the bar for the yonkou.
That's what I said… so, if he's the world's strongest man, the other Yonkou are also the world's strongest.
NO Fanboy stop makin s**t up.
Grap said and not together.
Now I get to spoon feed YOU (Which you haven't done to me at all):
Smoker: That's what I'm thinking about.
And also… the one man in this country... that I despise...
You know I hate the "Seven Armed Seas", don't you?
Sergeant: Y... you mean Sir Crocodile?
Tashigi: But speaking logically,
He's an ally of the Marines and the government.
Smoker: He was once an extremely clever pirate...
Not the type to take orders from any government.
TASHIGI... ALWAYS REMEMBER THIS...!!
NO MATTER HOW FAR A "PIRATE" GOES... HE IS STILL A "PIRATE"!!!
Bam. Smoker says that they take orders from the Government, Tashigi says they're allies with the marines. And what Garp said was that the Marines and the Shichibukai TOGETHER stand against the Yonkou. If two powers created a stalemate, why would they need a third? Therefore, it's bloody obvious that the Shichibukai were created so that there IS a stalemate between the Emperors and the WG.
If the emporers are above the shichibukai why does garp say only the WG and the shichibukai may withstand their power!
And don't say he means combined because 1st of all he doesn't say that and 2nd there would be only two world powers since if they were combined they wouldn't be separate powers
Oneinchpuch you save me the trouble of spoon feeding them catz.
FFA no only Whitebeard has the title of strongest man in the world STOP MAKIN UP STUFF!
SPOON FEED! Whitebeard diss shanks by calling him a bastard.
**Whitebeard set the BAR FOR THE YONKOU.
and your saying what oda states is wrong LOL your sad.
**
I never said that he isn't the strongest but Shanks maybe is even maybe not we don't know… do you understand!!!
Ok Yonkou are the strongest and if Shanks is a real swordsman then Zoro will face him and will beat him... Luffy will get mad and kill Zoro for this...
For real
If Shanks is stronger than Mihwak and he really is a swordsman then Zoro have to face him to be the strongest... or I get something wrong
Oneinchpuch you save me the trouble of spoon feeding them catz.
FFA no only Whitebeard has the title of strongest man in the world STOP MAKIN UP STUFF!
You're stupid.
I didn't say they were EXACTLY AS STRONG as Whitebeard. I said they are ABOUT AS STRONG. Learn to read.
Bam. Smoker says that they take orders from the Government, Tashigi says they're allies with the marines. And what Garp said was that the Marines and the Shichibukai TOGETHER stand against the Yonkou. If two powers created a stalemate, why would they need a third? Therefore, it's bloody obvious that the Shichibukai were created so that there IS a stalemate between the Emperors and the WG.
The 3rd power is there to stop constant war and if garp meant shichibukai+WG combined then there are no 3 powers, it would be the 2 world powers.
The 3rd power is there to stop constant war and if garp meant shichibukai+WG combined then there are no 3 powers, it would be the 2 world powers.
They're seperate entities/organizations. Tashigi SAID THEY WERE ALLIES. You can't argue with that. They both work for the WG, they're allied with each other, but they have seperate personal agendas. The Shichibukai were founded to help the Marines create a stalemate against the Yonkou. Period.
@Fire Fist:
You're stupid.
I didn't say they were EXACTLY AS STRONG as Whitebeard. I said they are ABOUT AS STRONG. Learn to read.
Im saying Whitebeard is the strongest Yonkou, and that there is a gap in power between Shanks and him, you should read more.
It was stated that the MARINES and the 7 gods are 2 conflicting groups of equal power.
go to the 3 great powers thread with this and stop trying to change the subject.
Im saying Whitebeard is the strongest Yonkou, and that there is a gap in power between Shanks and him, you should read more.
There is no frickin gap. Nowhere in the bloody manga does it say that. ANYWHERE. NO GAP. Whitebeard has a slight edge that makes him the strongest of the four, but otherwise, they are all the world's STRONGEST PIRATES.
@Fire Fist:
They're seperate entities/organizations. Tashigi SAID THEY WERE ALLIES. You can't argue with that. They both work for the WG, they're allied with each other, but they have seperate personal agendas. The Shichibukai were founded to help the Marines create a stalemate against the Yonkou. Period.
Right they are allies and their purpose is to stop a constant war which they are doing. If they weren't equal to the other 2 powers they wouldn't be able to do this.
It's like me saying "Tommy is terrible!! only jimmy and butch can withstand his might" Where does it say combined or at the same time?
Right they are allies and their purpose is to stop a constant war which they are doing. If they weren't equal to the other 2 powers they wouldn't be able to do this.
It's like me saying "Tommy is terrible!! only jimmy and butch can withstand his might" Where does it say combined or at the same time?
Other 2 powers? Uh, there's only 3, not 4. What you're saying makes no sense.
Tashigi said the Marines and the Shichibukai are allies. Therefore, they work together to stop the Yonkou.
@Fire Fist:
No, the treasure is part of it. Being rivals includes rivals of fame, power, importance. Roger had the slight edge over Whitebeard and amassed everything. For chrissakes, these are the first words said in the entire series. There's no debating Roger was stronger than Whitebeard.
[Wealth, fame, and power. There was once a man in this world who had all of these.]
Bam. First words of One Piece.
And?….... So....Of Course Roger was stated to be the stongest man but he still had a Rival in Whitebeard.
The latter. The statement you quoted doesn't prove that Mihawk had the title. It's more apparent that neither had the title, but Shanks losing his arm made him forfeit the title to Mihawk, because Mihawk would never bother to challenge Shanks, even if he was stronger or not.
Yet it is STATED that they are Equals that is the END RESULT…..You saying Shanks is Stronger, is crap.
He's part of a power that'a allied with another power and has the support of the entire world. But that doesn't change the fact that he's a pirate, and the Emperors were stated to be on the level of Whitebeard and above all other pirates. As part of the organization, he's able to withstand against the Yonkou. As an individual, the emperors are above the Shichibukai.
Wrong! If the Shichibukai and Marines were one their would be ONLY TWO powers. The Shichibukai and the Marines are "TWO conflicting Groups," Their are THREE WORLD powers. Emperors, Shichibukai and the Marines. Do you not understand the Concepts of BALANCE and the number THREE? The Emperors Do NOT Rule over the Shichibukai because that is a power that is EQUAL to the Emperors. The Emperors are NOT above the Shichibukai, you are talking out of your @#$%& the more and more you post.
@Fire Fist:
Other 2 powers? Uh, there's only 3, not 4. What you're saying makes no sense.
Tashigi said the Marines and the Shichibukai are allies. Therefore, they work together to stop the Yonkou.
By other 2 powers I meant WG and Yonkou since the WG=yonkou, if they aren't on par with these two then they wouldn't make a difference.
Being an ally doesn't mean they fight together an ally in war can also mean they will not attack you, they give you supplies to fight and offer you to use their country for easier attacking if they are closer to your enemy.
So as I've said before the shichibukai are there to stop a constant war
If all three powers are equal, why the fuck they need Shichibukais?
When they would survive with Marine HQ.
No. It goes like this:
Marine HQ+Shichibukais=Yonkous.
And?….... So....Of Course Roger was stated to be the stongest man but he still had a Rival in Whitebeard.
You said they were equal, now you're finally admitting Roger was stronger. Contradicting yourself? Indeed you are.
So, therefore, Whitebeard only had the title following Roger's death.
Yet it is STATED that they are Equals that is the END RESULT…..You saying Shanks is Stronger, is crap.
Not at all. People don't learn how to use their other arm to fight overnight. It takes time. During that time, the title went to Mihawk, and Shanks hasn't made an attempt to take it or debunk it.
Wrong! If the Shichibukai and Marines were one their would be ONLY TWO powers. The Shichibukai and the Marines are "TWO conflicting Groups," Their are THREE WORLD powers. Emperors, Shichibukai and the Marines. Do you not understand the Concepts of BALANCE and the number THREE? The Emperors Do NOT Rule over the Shichibukai because that is a power that is EQUAL to the Emperors. The Emperors are NOT above the Shichibukai, you are talking out of your @#$%& the more and more you post.
No, I'm not. And I noticed you stopped using your "Chatting garbage" line because I called you out on it. So now you switch it up.
Tashigi clearly says they're allies and Smoker says they take orders from the WG. It's like I said, they're conflicting in ideals, not in purpose.
Try again.
Apparently YOU don't understand the concept of 3 groups.
If one group moves against the other and they're equal in strength, it's stalemate. Nothing happens.
If one weaker group moves against the larger group, the better group wins, they dominate.
If 2 groups of equal power move against the stronger group, then there's a stalemate.
@Fire Fist:
There is no frickin gap. Nowhere in the bloody manga does it say that. ANYWHERE. NO GAP. Whitebeard has a slight edge that makes him the strongest of the four, but otherwise, they are all the world's STRONGEST PIRATES.
Like I said be4 Shanks had his ki in full effect and Whitebeard was not impressed what so ever.
It does not say the yonkou are the strongest pirates stop making up stuff.
where in the manga does it say that the yonkou are the strongest world power??? it says it no where.
the only thing that is bloody bleeding is your nose b/c you geting your a** kicked in this bloody debate.
where in the manga does it say that the yonkou are the strongest world power??? it says it no where.
Garp said that they are "Four Most Powerful Pirates".
You fail.
Like I said be4 Shanks had his ki in full effect and Whitebeard was not impressed what so ever.
Do you think that Shanks would be impressed if Whitebeard would do that?
Nope.
Like I said be4 Shanks had his ki in full effect and Whitebeard was not impressed what so ever.
You're dumb, because that contradicts your belief that Shanks is a swordsman ONLY. Whitebeard NEVER EVER said that he was unimpressed with Shanks Ki. He asked if a man using his Ki to "intimidate" his crew was really there for peaceful reasons.
It does not say the yonkou are the strongest pirates stop making up stuff.
Garp: Among the countless masses of pirates in the world,
he is one of the four greatest, along with the infamous Whitebeard, that dwell in the latter half of the Grand Line.
These pirates, who rule above all others almost as an emperor does,
are called the Four Emperors, or Yonko!!!
It is only Marine Headquarters and the Seven Armed Seas that can withstand their might!!
These "Three Great Powers" form a precarious balance that keeps the world from destruction, lest it fall.
WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG. At least have the decency to admit that you're wrong.
where in the manga does it say that the yonkou are the strongest world power??? it says it no where.
Mihawk says that the Shichibukai and Marines are equal. Read Garp's quote above. He says only the Marine HQ AND the Shichibukai can withstand their might.
the only thing that is bloody bleeding is your nose b/c you geting your a** kicked in this debate.
You're stupid. And by doing those smilies, you ensure no one will take you seriously.
If tha's that then Shanks is the gretest swordsman…
If tha's that then Shanks is the gretest swordsman…
It is not clear that is Shanks a swordsman or not.
I say that he isn't.
If tha's that then Shanks is the gretest swordsman…
Mihawk holds the title, but prior to that, they were rivals, roughly equal in power. If Mihawk earned the title following Shanks' arm loss, then he keeps it by denying Shanks a chance to either debunk it (Meaning they're still equals) or claim it (Meaning he is indeed superior).
Shanks didn't learn how to fight with his right arm overnight. It probably took years, and during that time, Mihawk clearly established himself as the world's greatest swordsman. It's even possible that his sword is superior to Shanks' sword, that being the sole reason he holds the title and Shanks doesn't.
Some of that is speculation, but some isn't.
Regardless, the Yonkou are the strongest pirates in the world. End of story.
@Fire Fist:
You said they were equal, now you're finally admitting Roger was stronger. Contradicting yourself? Indeed you are.
So, therefore, Whitebeard only had the title following Roger's death.
Wrong, I said they were EQUAL as far as STRENGTH was concerned…..Hell, it was stated that Whitebeard TIED the pirate King in battle.
Not at all. People don't learn how to use their other arm to fight overnight. It takes time. During that time, the title went to Mihawk, and Shanks hasn't made an attempt to take it or debunk it.
Your eye's are brown because your full of @#$%&*!!!!! Oda has stated that Shanks and Hawkeye's are EQUALS!!!!!! even when Shanks had both arms. You saying Shanks is Stronger is stupid, because Oda says they are equal!!!!
No, I'm not. And I noticed you stopped using your "Chatting garbage" line because I called you out on it. So now you switch it up.
Your Chatting Crap! and all of your points are Bullocks!!!…..Feel Better.
Tashigi clearly says they're allies and Smoker says they take orders from the WG. It's like I said, they're conflicting in ideals, not in purpose.Try again. Apparently YOU don't understand the concept of 3 groups.If one group moves against the other and they're equal in strength, it's stalemate. Nothing happens.If one weaker group moves against the larger group, the better group wins, they dominate.
If 2 groups of equal power move against the stronger group, then there's a stalemate.
Such a load of Crap Their are THREE WORLD POWERS IN THE WORLD OF ONE PIECE!!!!! And their is a Balance that needs to be preserved or do you not understand that that mans all the powers are equal?
Your eye's are brown because your full of @#$%&*!!!!! Oda has stated that Shanks and Hawkeye's are EQUALS!!!!!!
When he have ever stated that!?
Fucking never. he has said that they were rivals. Nothing else.
You're dumb, because that contradicts your belief that Shanks is a swordsman ONLY. Whitebeard NEVER EVER said that he was unimpressed with Shanks Ki. He asked if a man using his Ki to "intimidate" his crew was really there for peaceful reasons.
NO you keep ingoreing ODA! go look at the quote.
PWNED
Garp: Among the countless masses of pirates in the world,
he is one of the four greatest, along with the infamous Whitebeard, that dwell in the latter half of the Grand Line.
These pirates, who rule above all others almost as an emperor does,
are called the Four Emperors, or Yonko!!!
It is only Marine Headquarters and the Seven Armed Seas that can withstand their might!!
These "Three Great Powers" form a precarious balance that keeps the world from destruction, lest it fall.WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG. At least have the decency to admit that you're wrong.
and where does it say that the yonkou are the strongest pirates, or that the yonkou are the strongest world power?????
PWNED
Mihawk says that the Shichibukai and Marines are equal. Read Garp's quote above. He says only the Marine HQ AND the Shichibukai can withstand their might.
That mean only the 7 gods can fight them and only the marines can fight them. Did Garp say together/team up to fight the yonkou NO!
PWNED
FFA you got pwned 3 times in one post.
and where does it say that the yonkou are the strongest pirates, or that the yonkou are the strongest world power?????
PWNED
Idiot. Are you seriously asking that?
Garp: Among the countless masses of pirates in the world,
he is one of the four greatest, along with the infamous Whitebeard, that dwell in the latter half of the Grand Line.
These pirates, who rule above all others almost as an emperor does,
He is one of he four greatest.
@AD-HD:
When he have ever stated that!?
Fucking never. he has said that they were rivals. Nothing else.
Do you know what RIVALS mean?????? Are you that dense? Rival means Equal,: of the same measure;. Do you need me to draw a damn diagram? Rival means equal and you being a Shankls fanboy saying he is stronger than Hawkeye's is FECES!!!
Wrong, I said they were EQUAL as far as STRENGTH was concerned…..Hell, it was stated that Whitebeard TIED the pirate King in battle.
Obviously you didn't catch the definition of strength. He tied him in COMBAT, and not ALL THE TIME. Roger is stronger.
Your eye's are brown because your full of @#$%&*!!!!! Oda has stated that Shanks and Hawkeye's are EQUALS!!!!!! even when Shanks had both arms. You saying Shanks is Stronger is stupid, because Oda says they are equal!!!!
All you can say is that my theory's crap, but you can't back it up. It was NEVER stated they are equals. It was stated they were rivals. Period. No further explanation given.
Your Chatting Crap! and all of your points are Bullocks!!!…..Feel Better.
No, cause that was half-assed. Try again.
Such a load of Crap Their are THREE WORLD POWERS IN THE WORLD OF ONE PIECE!!!!! And their is a Balance that needs to be preserved or do you not understand that that mans all the powers are equal?
No, Mihawk said the Marines and Shichibukai are equal. Tashigi SAYS that the Marines and Shichibukai are ALLIES. Allies aid each other during war. If the Marines and the Yonkou were equal, there would be no reason for the Shichibukai.
@AD-HD:
Idiot. Are you seriously asking that?
He is one of he four greatest.
Does it say the 4 strongest pirates in the world NO!
Idiot??????? you the one saying Arlong is on Jinbei's level.
PWNED!
Someone should close this topic… 5 pages ago I wanted to go back on topic to discuss a serious point I wanted everyone to discuss, yet I was ignored when I was on topic and everyone else continued off topicness.
Sad isn't it when the AP members can't just get back on topic. Its proves everyone arguing is really immature and ignores one plea to get back on topic... Really... Create a seperate topic to discuss Shanks being a swordman and all that crap.
And those half on topic are calling each other stupid, dumb and idiots and just arguing over unproven thoeires. Its a fan theory, most of us will be proven wrong. Everyone is being a big baby over everyone else dissing their own theory. Get a grips everyone. Let it go, this isn't a soap, its a forum.
don't really want to get into this arguement but when you guys say
Yonkou = Marines = Schichibukai OR
Yonkou = Marines + Schichibukai
it makes it sound like that the Yonkou are allies with one another. I know you guys don't think thats true but it really sounds like thats what you are saying. My opinion is that if the Yonkou did band together it would be the second equation. Heck even maybe just 2 combined together would form the second equation, considering how freaked out the WG was about Shanks and Whitebeard meeting.
Personally I dont think the Schichibukai = Yonkou just because it seems that the Yonkou pretty much have an army basically to themselves. HOWEVER I do believe Mihawk = Shanks. I could explain my reasons but its pretty much everywhere in this thread already stated by you guys.
well anyways argue away…
Does it say the 4 strongest pirates in the world NO!
You know, it means almost same thing. You are stupid.
Idiot??????? you the one saying Arlong is on Jinbei's level.
I haven't never said that. I said that Arlong was almost as strong as him eight years ago.
NO you keep ingoreing ODA! go look at the quote.
PWNEDNOT owned. Look again:
Shanks: And here I have brought you your curative elixir. I have no intention to fight.
I wish to have a discussion with you.Whitebeard: And THOSE are the words of a man who boards my ship with his "ambition" in full effect?
You damned bastard…
Gurararara...!!!He wasn't dissing him, he was pissed off. Shanks knocked out most of his crew and then tried to say he was being peaceful. It didn't look that way to Whitebeard.
and where does it say that the yonkou are the strongest pirates, or that the yonkou are the strongest world power?????
PWNEDNot owned. Are you dense or can you just not read? Garp says right there in the quote they are the WORLD'S GREATEST PIRATES.
That mean only the 7 gods can fight them and only the marines can fight them. Did Garp say together/team up to fight the yonkou NO!
PWNEDNot owned here, either. Tashigi said they're allies. They work for the same boss. You're dumb.
FFA you got pwned 3 times in one post.
No, you failed to own anyone. Try again.
Obviously you didn't catch the definition of strength. He tied him in COMBAT, and not ALL THE TIME. Roger is stronger.
What is that you don't understand about the wordss MATCH and RIVAL????? Whitebeard was an equal for Roger….... period.
All you can say is that my theory's crap, but you can't back it up. It was NEVER stated they are equals. It was stated they were rivals. Period. No further explanation given.
Rivals means ONE THAT EQUALS ANOTHER ESPECIALLY IN DESIRED QUALITIES: MATCH, PEER You need to read more.
No, Mihawk said the Marines and Shichibukai are equal. Tashigi SAYS that the Marines and Shichibukai are ALLIES. Allies aid each other during war. If the Marines and the Yonkou were equal, there would be no reason for the Shichibukai.
Your posts are really starting to smake my computer smell, because they are obviously coming from your @#$%. Do you understand that the Marines and Shichibukai are Conflicting groups of equal popwer!!!! Hell, we saw in the meeting how The Shichibukai did NOT show up and Doflamingo playing with Government officials like they were trash and about to attack SenGoku.They are NOT allies nor have they been shown to be working together. Their are THREE powers and they are All EQUAL.
NOT owned. Look again:
Thanks for helping me out You just PWNED yourself.
Shanks: And here I have brought you your curative elixir. I have no intention to fight.
I wish to have a discussion with you.Whitebeard: And THOSE are the words of a man who boards my ship with his "ambition" in full effect?
You damned bastard…
Gurararara...!!!
He wasn't dissing him, he was pissed off. Shanks knocked out most of his crew and then tried to say he was being peaceful. It didn't look that way to Whitebeard.
SPOON FEED!
He called Shanks a bastard, plus he was not impressed with shanks Ki what so ever( he laugh at him) that the gap in power. just like if I called you a fanboy , Im dissing ya.
PWNED
Not owned. Are you dense or can you just not read? Garp says right there in the quote they are the WORLD'S GREATEST PIRATES.
So the 7 gods of the sea are so great the WG had to LEGALIZED them b/c they were so great at being a pirate.
and you still did not show me where it is stated that they are the strongest pirates in the world, or you did not show me where it is stated that the yonkou are the strongest world power.
Pwned
Not owned here, either. Tashigi said they're allies. They work for the same boss. You're dumb.
Oda said that the marines and the 7 gods are **2 CONFLICTING GROUPS OF EQUAL POWER. PWNED
do you know what CONFLICTING MEANS?**
What is that you don't understand about the wordss MATCH and RIVAL????? Whitebeard was an equal for Roger….... period.
Again, if Roger was completely equal to his rival Whitebeard, why is Roger Pirate King and created One Piece and Whitebeard NOT the one who created One Piece and is Pirate King?
Rivals means ONE THAT EQUALS ANOTHER ESPECIALLY IN DESIRED QUALITIES: MATCH, PEER You need to read more.
From Webster:
ri·val (rī'vəl) Pronunciation Key
n.
One who attempts to equal or surpass another, or who pursues the same object as another; a competitor.
One that equals or almost equals another in a particular respect.
Obsolete A companion or an associate in a particular duty.
Failed.
Your posts are really starting to smake my computer smell, because they are obviously coming from your @#$%. Do you understand that the Marines and Shichibukai are Conflicting groups of equal popwer!!!! Hell, we saw in the meeting how The Shichibukai did NOT show up and Doflamingo playing with Government officials like they were trash and about to attack SenGoku.They are NOT allies nor have they been shown to be working together. Their are THREE powers and they are All EQUAL.
Tashigi: "Vivi"…?!
Princess Nefertari Vivi...?!! Why would she be with them?!!
Smoker: That's what I'm thinking about.
And also... the one man in this country... that I despise...
You know I hate the "Seven Armed Seas", don't you?
Sergeant: Y... you mean Sir Crocodile?
Tashigi: But speaking logically,
He's an ally of the Marines and the government.
ABSOLUTELY AND COMPLETELY FAILED.
You admitted you were wrong before, so that puts you above WHITEBEARD, but you're still stubborn as a twenty year old mule. And I would know, my dad's friend manages a mule/jack farm.