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The 3 Great Powers Of The World
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Well based on what I've seem the Shcihi Bukai that appeared so far didn't have crews (Bellamy's Pirates means anything)
And his flag was Doflamingo's flag - one more evindece that they indeed leave their crews
Get it ? Or should I make a draw ?
And by the way why did you start a topic asking who people think was the strongest of the 3 powers if you don't even consider any other posibility besides the one on your head
People do have the right to their opinions
And I haven't seem you say much that proves anything, YOU FAIL MISERABLY
I won't even dignify you with answers no more
Answering to Phenomenol I'm aware Jinbei means Whale Shark but like I said it's questionable if he's indeed one or if it's just Oda play us
About Shanks well it's yet to see if he did indeed lost quality by losing the arm (Mihawk just said he didn't what to fight an one arm man)
Doflamingo like you said "Who knows what Doflamingo can control"
But I won't say much about this because it's clear that we don't have enough information on the Shichi Bukai
P.S. - I've said all I had to say so no more long explaining post
Then what about Donflamingos pirate busisness on his island then and theres no concrete evidence that they have to leave their pirate crews
Isnt having a crime organization the same as having a pirate crew?
And about the thread you act like i cant voice my own opinion.and Pants Eater dont get your panties in a twist.And about the Mr shanks thing that was and inside joke calling octogon out on how he thinks that shanks is not a swordsman. If you know what been going on then you would have never said I contradicted myself. In fact go read the Mihawk Gerater then Shanks thread. now back to the topic
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It is stated that Whitebeard is the world's strongest man, and that the other Yonkou are equal to him…but maybe in terms of crew size and power, thus meaning none of the other Yonkou are actually his equal in terms of pure physical power.
Also, even if he is the world's strongest man, that doesn't mean much when facing certain Devil Fruit Powers. It could be speaking of just physical power. And it is stated he's the closest to One Piece, so the other three Yonkou are likely almost as close to it...whatever that actually ends up meaning.
However, does that mean that the world's strongest pirate crews can't still be the equal of the Navy Marines' most powerful members/soldiers?
I still say there's a balance between the three, simply because otherwise the Navy Marines would be completely useless. Why bother having an institution to try and preserve order in the Blues and first half of Grand Line if the World Government knows it's a pointless battle, since four supposedly unstoppable pirate crews are so close to achieving the creation of a new era and any attempt on the part of the Navy Marines would accomplish nothing?
I'm guessing they're equal and Luffy, and the other Ds, are rogue elements who are constantly disrupting this balance.
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@AD-HD:
My last words on this topic and why I think Yonkous are strongest group:
Whitebeard is world strongest man, and he is one of the Yonkous.
Garp says that all others Yonkous are EQUAL to Whitebeard.
I´m done.Oh yeah, WHITEBEARD, I won´t answer your messages anymore.
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How is Whitebeard the Worlds strongest man when there are three people equal to him? Shouldn't the title be "strongest men in the world?" I think that Garp meant that they were at the "level" of Whitebeard, which doesn't mean they could beat him–but they're close. It's kind of like an "Olympic level" athlete--are they all equal?
Now, I just think the three sides are equal. After all, shichibukai Mihawk is equal to either Whitebeard or Shanks right? Really, I think that these three powers are all in the same "league."
However, in this "league" there still could be varying strengths. Croc was weaker then everyone in this group it seems, meanwhile Whitebeard in the strongest. It don't think we should be ranking one "group" against each other, but rather,since they don't work together, each individual–which we can't do yet. So...
Whitebeard vs. Mihawk=tie
Whitebeard vs. Shanks=undecided
Shanks vs. Mihawk=tie
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I think that these three powers are all in the same "league."
I think the same way. If one of the power would be stonger than the other, the balance would collapse. So they are equal to each other.
The Four Emperors = The Shichibukai = The Marine HQ
It doesn't matter, if WB is stronger than the other 3 yongou or someone of the shichibukai, as long as, the groups are equal. Though WB is the strongest man, doesnt mean the yongou are the strongest. And he alone can't win against the remaining powers.
so far..
PS: After reading my post, u should know..my english is realy bad, but try to live with that
//bh
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Yeah, no one alive can currently match the Whitebeard. All the Yonkou are on his level. This also means that the general level of the schichbukai is lower than the Yonkou. Because I'm sure that not all of the schichbukai are on the same level.
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I still say the only edge the Yonkou have on the Shichibukai is that they have very large crews. While the Shichibukai still have criminal ties, just imagine putting Baroque Works against the Whitebeard Pirates…
As for the power of the stronger Shichibukai themselves, let's compare. Whitebeard is considered the strongest man alive...perhaps only physically. The Shichibukai have, amongst their ranks, the strongest swordsman alive and also someone who can apparently control others.
So the Shichibukai may be very strong, but not have as many powerful followers?
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Yeah, you basically said that the general level of the Shichibukai are lower than the Four Emperors. (Don't act like you just had a revelation) Which is speculation.
You know that I never that the the Schichbukai are lower than the Yonkou. I said that their general/average level is lower than the Yonkou, which is not speculation. Why? Because not every Schichbukai is on the level of Whitebeard.
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This is like the super-argument thread, or something.
…I wish I had something more witty to say, that's all I could come up with.
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Oh, those.
I remember one involving Goku versus Superman…I wasn't sure if I was amused or horrified.
Er, back on topic...I've already given my opinion on how exactly the three groups balance out. Mostly I'm still here to see if anyone actually starts discussing that civilly again. Heh.
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I agree with Octagon as well. It was a difficult decision, but the whole "making sense" bit convinced me.
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Alright guys…as it was kindly requested, I'm reopening this thread after deleting over 30 posts which contained a lot of insults being thrown around as well as off-topic stuff. Listen, Phenomenol, WHITEBEARD, Pants-eater, Octogon, and everyone else who participated in slinging mud...don't do it. Discuss the story, you don't need to resort to saying "you're full of crap, you're dumb, he's smarter than you, you're spewing garbage, you suck," etc.. If you have nothing contructive to say, don't say anything at all. If you're new, please read our board rules.
So start over, this time with a little more maturity please. -
Like i said before never knew my first thread would be controversial.
Looks like i made a name for myself with my first thread.NOW COSMICDEBRIS WHATS MY BOUNTY? LOL
The legendary :getlost:
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…right then.
Um, what does everyone think of the comment on Whitebeard being the strongest man alive? If that's just pure physical power, with others like Mihawk holding other 'strongest' titles, isn't it very possible that some Shichibukai have special abilities that could work against Whitebeard regardless of his insane personal strength?
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…right then.
Um, what does everyone think of the comment on Whitebeard being the strongest man alive? If that's just pure physical power, with others like Mihawk holding other 'strongest' titles, isn't it very possible that some Shichibukai have special abilities that could work against Whitebeard regardless of his insane personal strength?
Or its just something he earned by being on equal footing with gold roger. You know like being next in line to the title of being the greatest pirate. And it says he's the closest to one piece.
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I think he's strongest in both senses. Odds are he's strong, but if a logia could beat him then Croc would have killed him already. There's something more to Whitebeard.
@Octogon:
Yeah, no one alive can currently match the Whitebeard. All the Yonkou are on his level. This also means that the general level of the schichbukai is lower than the Yonkou. Because I'm sure that not all of the schichbukai are on the same level.
While I agree that not everyone is on the same level, don't forget that Mihawk is on par with Shanks and Whitebeard.
Of course, you said "general level," but who knows either way. I think their general level is close, save for Croc.
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@Final:
Or its just something he earned by being on equal footing with gold roger. You know like being next in line to the title of being the greatest pirate. And it says he's the closest to one piece.
We can't validate the accuracy of that statement until someone else says it. BUGGY said it, and Buggy is biased against Shanks.
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@Fire Fist:
We can't validate the accuracy of that statement until someone else says it. BUGGY said it, and Buggy is biased against Shanks.
Buggy was on Gold rogers crew, so are you telling me Buggy doesnt know what he's talking about?
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No, I'm saying his opinion is biased.
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What has that have to do with whitebeard?
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Shanks is in opposition to Whitebeard in the sense that they're both persuing One Piece. Since Buggy and Shanks don't exactly get along, Buggy's opinion of who is closest to One Piece is biased.
So, until someone else says it, we don't know if he's really the "Closest to One Piece".