or they got his codename instead ….... Hunter...... or something like that....
Future bounties
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well look I'm sorry to say but blueno was gone a LONG ass time ago. and even if he did wake p, he just wok up to a bomb in his face and then the building would fall in the hole. Trust me, CP9 is DEAD.
Exactly my point, Blueno was knocked out…about forty five minutes before the tower was blown up (the Buster Call countdown probably occured ten-fifteen minutes after he was defeated, and the countdown lasted a half an hour correct?); that's plenty of time for him to wake up, and rescue the rest of CP9 with his devil fruit powers. Fukorou and Kumadori were both defeated before the Buster Call was initiated. Kalifa was defeated ten or so minutes into the countdown, and then Jyabura and Kaku were defeated five-ten minutes before the Buster Call wrecked the tower. So if Blueno wakes up after half an hour, and he takes ten minutes to gather Fuko, Kuma, and Kali; that means he'd be able to grab Jyabura and Kaku almost immediately after they were defeated.
A little far fetched perhaps, but if we're to have Cipher Pol 9's Splendiferous Petting Zoo Adventure, it makes sense.
Back on topic: Yeah, if Sanji gets a bounty it'll definetly be under a false name. I'd prefer Pirate A over Hunter though.
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the far fetched is what you said….saving Kaku and Jyabura just after they were defeated..... but it's possible...... but highly unlikely....
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Hey, if Mr. 3 can be saved by a piece of incredible floaty wood, a door man can save some guys in a small window of time. :P
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There's no need to think about how they could have survived. After more than 400 chapters of One Piece you should have noticed how rare anyone dying is, especially if they have been named. In that regard Oda doesn't give a damn about realism or anything. No one was killed by the SH and those few pitiful explosions couldn't kill a named character, not after Pell.
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If Shura or Yama is still alive, I will eat a Straw Hat. Whole. There is NO WAY Shura is alive, at least. Enel had to RESTART HIS OWN HEART after taking a reject to the chest. Shura took one, too. He's done. He's dead. And despite two Skypeia flashbacks, he wasn't shown.
Villians Oda doesn't have a problem killing. Oda only has a problem killing good guys.
Pell survived probably because he did what any rational person would do… create a spin and hurl the bomb away. Notice how far away from Alabasta he was.
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well,i think they´ll get bounties
but they won´t be very low,nor too big
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my guess is that the mugiwaras[including Franky] will get…..
Luffy-250 mil,
Zoro- 225 mil
Sanji-200 mil
Robin-190 mil
Franky-150 mil
Chopper-125 mil
Sogeking-90 mil
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I'd now say the possible bounties are:
Luffy, 300 million
Franky, 100 million
Robin, 200 millionIf Sanji is taken into account, then another 100 million dollar man.
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At the moment I believe the bounties will be something like that
Luffy 300 Million - trippling his bounty should be about right
Zorro ~150 Million - just a bit more than Sanji
Sanji 120 Million - of course twice as much as Zoro had before
Robin 79 Million - same as before
Franky 50 Million - because he bit Spandam and gave him the rabies
Usopp 30 Million - just to ensure his bragging rights with Chopper -
Sanji's and Chopper's bounty might not be that high….... Chopper's might not get one....but his Monster Point form might get one......
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Zoro isn't going to be too far behind Luffy in bounty. You won't see Zoro with half Luffy's bounty, too big of a gap.
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Zoro hasn't done anything. Kaku was pretty strong….but uh, not really. Not enough to instantly bulk a bounty. Unless the gov't is really anal about getting at the Straw Hats, I don't see many bounties.
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the World Government probably will be anal….. since they are/about to press the panic button.........
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Zoro hasn't done anything. Kaku was pretty strong….but uh, not really. Not enough to instantly bulk a bounty. Unless the gov't is really anal about getting at the Straw Hats, I don't see many bounties.
**Croc = Schichbukai
Daz Bones = Bounty hnter.
Lucchi = #1 assasian
Kaku = #1 swordsman in CP9
Not to mention Luffy isn't the one that destroyed Eneis Lobby, it was the Swrawhats.**
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Yes, Croc was a Shicibukai, and Lucci was top assassin. Luffy's bounty can definitely go up from those. Zoro was reputed before Alabasta, and then he beat 100 bounty hunters in addition to a famous assassin. Kaku would have gone done quickly without his DF, and being #1 swordsman in a group full of people that didn't use swords in the first place…
Well, my point is that logically, his bounty wouldn't double from fighting someone not even on his level.
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Yes, Croc was a Shicibukai, and Lucci was top assassin. Luffy's bounty can definitely go up from those. Zoro was reputed before Alabasta, and then he beat 100 bounty hunters in addition to a famous assassin. Kaku would have gone done quickly without his DF, and being #1 swordsman in a group full of people that didn't use swords in the first place…
Zoro was basiccly a nobody on the GL before his first bounty. Look how much he has gone up just from defeating Daz Bones. And now he's defeated the second strongest CP9.
Well, my point is that logically, his bounty wouldn't double from fighting someone not even on his level.
**Kaku not on Zoro's level?
And the thing is, There is never going to be that much of a gap between Zoro's bounty and Luffy's. It makes no sense no matter how you look at it. The sole reason Luffy is going to have a higher bounty is because he is the captian.**
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Well, my point is that logically, his bounty wouldn't double from fighting someone not even on his level.
Zoro, Robin, Nami, and Franky will receive bonuses to thier bounties most likely due to the captain mob they were fighting off.
Sadly, Sanji was absent for that, so even despite the sea train adventure, just in that mob Zoro, Robin, Nami, and Franky were probably earning themselves quite a bonus on thier heads. Oda likes to "cheat" Sanji out of the big money methinks to keep him as the Straw Hats unexpected wild card.
I'd say between wrecking through Enies Lobby, defeating Kaku, and the captains at the end, Zoro's bounty will probably go up nicely.
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@Octogon:
Zoro was basiccly a nobody on the GL before his first bounty. Look how much he has gone up just from defeating Daz Bones. And now he's defeated the second strongest CP9.
**He was at least good enough to get offered a spot in BW, which collected people from around the world. His bounty was also from taking on 100 bounty hunters at once.
And the thing is how big the gap between Kaku and Lucci was. In comparision, it was only a decent accomplishment. Not exactly the #1 guy, a Shichibukai, or even a giant.**
**> Kaku not on Zoro's level?
And the thing is, There is never going to be that much of a gap between Zoro's bounty and Luffy's. It makes no sense no matter how you look at it. The sole reason Luffy is going to have a higher bounty is because he is the captian.**
The Marines don't have to know doriki to know how much more impressive Luffy's feat was. No one bothered to even say Kaku's name outside of some of CP9 and Iceberg. This would be like putting him at 20 million for beating Hachi and Cabaji and surviving against Mihawk. -
See, that's what made Calipha's fight unrealistic. She mastered her powers in a matter of about 30 min. Kaku vs. Zoro was more realistic because Kaku did not have a clue how to use his powers. Zoro even bluntly stated he was making up attacks mid fight. That's one of the main reasons Kaku lost. If you recall, his nintoryu was keeping up with Zoro until he decided to go giraffe mode. He couldn't control it and in the resulting series of events Zoro ended up winning because Kaku had no clue what he was doing.
Kaku was an extremely powerful fighter/swordsman. But when you get an ability you don't know how to use and try to use it anyway, you get fucked over. Every time.
Remember when Goku first went Golden Saru? Bebe Vegeta owned him because Goku didn't have a clue what he was doing. It's kind of the same thing.
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Can't say I agree with what you are saying, even if I don't understand your obscure DB reference, probably GT since it sounds like crap.
Kaku may not have had total control over his DF, but he still was a lot stronger fighting with it than without. I wonder if he hadn't used it whether Zoro would have even needed Ashura to beat the crap out of him, probably not.
And I also don't think Calipha had mastered her DF by the time she met up with Nami. She started to learn how to use it and thought up a few tricks, but those were probably only the 1x1 of her DF. -
she had experiment specimen #1 : Sanji…...
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Yeah, it was GT, but anyway…
Rankyaku Pasta machine isn't exactly the deadliest of deadly moves. All Kaku was doing was stupid moves that made no sense. The only really deadly one he did was the one that cut the entire tower in half, and I don't think he had control over it. The reason he was stronger in giraffe form was because like most large mammals, Giraffes have much larger muscle mass than humans. Add that to Rokushiki and you've got a damn buff giraffe-man.
If Kaku had been in control of his powers, he could've easily owned Zoro.
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@Fire Fist:
If Kaku had been in control of his powers, he could've easily owned Zoro.
I agree…. but would Zoro had allowed Kaku to own him?
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While I don't think you could be more wrong, two things:
1. Kaku was not forced, he chose to transform. Which would mean he obviously felt more powerful and more certain of victory fighting like that. And if not, if he chose to goof off with his powers and ended up losing, then he's an idiot of an assassin and not really worth much praise.
2. "If." If Zoro had ten more years to train, he probably could have beaten Mihawk on his first try. But "if" means he didn't, so it doesn't matter.
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He was at least good enough to get offered a spot in BW, which collected people from around the world.
And Kaku was in CP9, an elite seceret group. I don't know about you, but that's more impressive than being Mr.1 in BW.
His bounty was also from taking on 100 bounty hunters at once.
Yeah, so? It's not that added much to his bounty anyway. From the WG's point of view, any one who could defeat such high members of BW can easily defeat 100 bounty hunters.
And the thing is how big the gap between Kaku and Lucci was. In comparision, it was only a decent accomplishment. Not exactly the #1 guy, a Shichibukai, or even a giant.
**When you think about it, the differance between Croc and Daz is still much bigger. Croc was a logia. Usless you're talking about wet croc.
And how do you know the differance between Giraffe and Leopard?
Fact is, if they get bounties, Zoro's is going to more than double. It's makes no sense to keep him at a measley 120 million.**
The Marines don't have to know doriki to know how much more impressive Luffy's feat was. No one bothered to even say Kaku's name outside of some of CP9 and Iceberg. This would be like putting him at 20 million for beating Hachi and Cabaji and surviving against Mihawk.
**Don't underestimate the marines power to gather information. They found out Zoro killed 100 bounty hunters. They found out about Buggy's and Krieg's defeat, when not a single marine was in sight. And the WG actually know about Kaku. They'll find out enough.
And about the 20 million thing, I don't see why not…**
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Just as well as you do not see "why not" concerning this case. You could say that Kaku has a better reputation than Mr. 1, but in the end the strength difference is not that much. Not enough to double a bounty.
And how do I know the difference between a giraffe and a leopard…..hm....
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.........Uh, I thought it was really, really, really easy to tell. But I could write a paragraph or two about the gap between those two guys if you really cannot see it.
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Just as well as you do not see "why not" concerning this case. You could say that Kaku has a better reputation than Mr. 1, but in the end the strength difference is not that much. Not enough to double a bounty.
**I don't see your reasoning. Luffy went from nothing to 30 million to 100 million. Zoro went from nothing to 60 million.
It makes absolutley no sense from Zoro bounty to increase to less than 120 million. The whole point is that the SH grow in strengh extremley rapidly. Everyone's bounty is going to at least double.**
And how do I know the difference between a giraffe and a leopard…..hm....
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.........Uh, I thought it was really, really, really easy to tell. But I could write a paragraph or two about the gap between those two guys if you really cannot see it.
Leopard > Giraffe, but by how much?
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Well, of course it cannot be measured. But, given the fact that Lucci was much stronger in the first place and had a more fierce DF for a considerable amount of time, it can at least be said that Lucci was vastly superior to Kaku.
And my reasoning was that unless the government just goes by the Straw Hats growing to be a huge threat, Zoro may not get a bounty increase. Kaku was not all that notable.
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@Fire Fist:
See, that's what made Calipha's fight unrealistic. She mastered her powers in a matter of about 30 min. Kaku vs. Zoro was more realistic because Kaku did not have a clue how to use his powers. Zoro even bluntly stated he was making up attacks mid fight. That's one of the main reasons Kaku lost.
I don't like comparing manga together, but I don't have a better illustration atm. Some character aren't good figther (talking about strength, stamina, etc…) but good at thinking, at acknowledging.
For example in Naruto, Sakura quickly learned how to manage her Chakra in order to climb the tree. Naruto and Sasuke, who's far better figthers, didn't. That's something like this here. Kalifa just 'feels it', there is nothing more to say. Do you really think Nami had already navigated in such whirlpools before ? No. Did she did it perfectly ? Yes, she felt it.About the bounties, I didn't post so far since I wanted to wait the end of this arc. No doubt Luffy should have a skyrocketting bounty for such actions. Kukoro warned us. Luffy's bounty will be stable for some time, so I guess it should be at least 250 mill at least, if not more. It will all depend on how the WG "fear" them now. Others migth not have such increase, since as the Franky-Ka stated, a capitain bounty >>> his crew. For Sanji case, I hope for it he will have one, but I'll roll on the floor if he don't xD.
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Giraffes [and other towering animals] are rarely even targetted by predators, such as leopards. Too much risk in getting trampled. Of course, a leopard is far more powerful and vicious than a giraffe, but if you're going to discuss factual comparisons with the danger between animals, you have to include the fact that giraffes have excellent leverage and powerful legs that can easily trample other creatures smaller than said giraffe.
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Obviously Luffy's bounty will skyrocket due to both his defeating the infamous Rob Lucci and his beating about 5,000 marines on Enis Lobby alone.
Zoro's bounty will increase due to his defeat of Kaku and being able to defeat the apparently famed ship cutting captain T-Bone with one blow.
Sanji's bounty should be very impressive because his actions are directly responsibile for the fall of all the officialy recognized agents of the Cp organization.
Robin's may stay static or only have a minimal increase because she didn't really do anything. Franky, Nami and Chopper may actually escape getting bounties from this encounter since they were relatively insignificant in their actions. Although defeating a Cp9 agent is huge those agents are supposed to remain in the shadows.
Perhaps not Usopp but Soge King may end up with a bounty for both destroying the World Government flag and sniping the marines from an incredible distance.
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@Cyringohn:
Giraffes [and other towering animals] are rarely even targetted by predators, such as leopards. Too much risk in getting trampled. Of course, a leopard is far more powerful and vicious than a giraffe, but if you're going to discuss factual comparisons with the danger between animals, you have to include the fact that giraffes have excellent leverage and powerful legs that can easily trample other creatures smaller than said giraffe.
Going by the actual animals, yeah, but I doubt it holds true with DFs. They may have the natural advantages, but coming from a human base would change things.
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Luffy: Is gonna get a new high bounty beause he beat more that 5,000 marine solider and beat Rob Lucci.
Zorro: New bounty because kickt T-bone and Kaku
Sanji: Yes he too because what he did in the sea train
Ussop/Sogeking: He burn the WG flag and the marine saw he's talend in shooting so he will get a bounty. How much dunno.
Robin: Mabey she will have a raise because she is one of the strawhat now(for real)
Nami/Chopper: They are not gonna get one because they did not do so much so that WG could see them as a threat!
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I hope that Sanji never gets a bounty – not because I dislike him (that's not true : I think he's great!) -- but because the more "notorious" Sanji becomes, the harder it will be for him to sneak around in the shadows and work his tactical magic. Sanji won't get far if, at every turn and corner, people are pointing and yelling : "Eeek! There's that Beserk Cook from the wanted posters!!"
... And what's a little teasing from Zoro compared to the freedom that anonymity brings? (Of the two "Alphas", Sanji is by far the bigger teaser -- he won't be brought down that easily!).
I completly agree.
I'm looking forward to seeing the new bounties as a result of the latest events.
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They way I see it, Chopper may get one due to his rampaging monster form, if not here at this event, then sooner or later.
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Robin's may stay static or only have a minimal increase because she didn't really do anything. Franky, Nami and Chopper may actually escape getting bounties from this encounter since they were relatively insignificant in their actions. Although defeating a Cp9 agent is huge those agents are supposed to remain in the shadows.
Yes but before she met the SH, the bounty weren't on his head because of her knowledge, it was also helping coop. of the global population.
Now she do have strongs friends, she migth have a bounty increase.By the way, anyone suggested a "global bounty" for the whole crew ?
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is there a "global bounty" even?
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By the way, anyone suggested a "global bounty" for the whole crew ?
Way back in this thread I speculated about a chapter like "THE BILLION BERRY PIRATES" (as for the sum of all SHs bounties). What do you mean by "global bounty"?
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Luffy (300) + Zoro (200) + Sanji (100) + Robin (160) + Nami (80) + Chopper (50) = 840mil
yeah, something like that…..
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My guess:
Luffy: 200/250 mil at max
Zoro: 100 mil
Robin: 80 mil
Franky: 60 mil
Sanji: 60 milThat's it. Not too high, because that would put them way higher than they really are compared to the current strongest pirates.
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bounty isn't all about how physical strength though….....
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Hmm, there should be new bounties very soon. So I'll make my guess now, before it's too late.
Luffy: 300 mil
Zoro: 180 mil
Sogeking: 200 mil
Sanji: 120 mil
Nami: 65 mil
Chopper: 75 mil
Robin: 158 mil
Franky: 112 milI think, Luffy is now in the same league, where Doflamingo and Kuma were, when their bounties got frozen. The other bounties are just some weird feelings of me.
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Well, of course it cannot be measured. But, given the fact that Lucci was much stronger in the first place and had a more fierce DF for a considerable amount of time, it can at least be said that Lucci was vastly superior to Kaku.
And my reasoning was that unless the government just goes by the Straw Hats growing to be a huge threat, Zoro may not get a bounty increase. Kaku was not all that notable.
Kaku was not Zoro's only feat this arc.
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He also slept and cut T-Bone. Okay okay, he beat T-Bone, cut a train, and a piece of stone. Then he beat a few dozen marines. But T-Bone would be matched by Blueno, and those dozens would be matched with the hundred Luffy took out with Storm alone, nevermind the rest. Sogeking burned the flag, but under Luffy's command. He's the head in all of this, and anyone getting a bounty close to his would undermine that.
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He also slept and cut T-Bone. Okay okay, he beat T-Bone, cut a train, and a piece of stone. Then he beat a few dozen marines. But T-Bone would be matched by Blueno, and those dozens would be matched with the hundred Luffy took out with Storm alone, nevermind the rest. Sogeking burned the flag, but under Luffy's command. He's the head in all of this, and anyone getting a bounty close to his would undermine that.
**It doesn't matter if T-Bone and the few dozen were weaker than him. The 100 bounty hunters were also vastly weaker than him.
And Soge burned the flag under Luffy's command, so what? He still did it. Also, Luffy isn't the one that invaded Eneis Lobby, it was the StrawHats. All of them. Just like Luffy wasn't the one that took down BW.
No offense tpo anyone, but having Luffy's bounty be a lot above Zoro's is pretty retarted. Their strengh is pretty close (same IMO) and the only thing Luffy has over Zoro is the fact that he is the captian.**
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@Octogon:
**It doesn't matter if T-Bone and the few dozen were weaker than him. The 100 bounty hunters were also vastly weaker than him.
But….there were a hundred of them. Zoro hasn't been in any danger here, and he wasn't even hurt before fighting Kaku. Also, it was Zoro's first bounty, which would be a little easier to get.
And Soge burned the flag under Luffy's command, so what? He still did it. Also, Luffy isn't the one that invaded Eneis Lobby, it was the StrawHats. All of them. Just like Luffy wasn't the one that took down BW.
No offense tpo anyone, but having Luffy's bounty be a lot above Zoro's is pretty retarted. Their strengh is pretty close (same IMO) and the only thing Luffy has over Zoro is the fact that he is the captian.
I don't know about what's considered "retarded," but I think it would be silly if the reason the Marines gave for setting a new bounty for Zoro would be that he's close in strength, especially when he hasn't proven he has the strength to beat Lucci like Luffy just did. And if you're going to say a much higher bounty for captain wouldn't make sense, then would you say Paulie and Zambai also deserve bounties? It was a group effort, but being commander gives Luffy more responsibility for it.**
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Way back in this thread I speculated about a chapter like "THE BILLION BERRY PIRATES" (as for the sum of all SHs bounties). What do you mean by "global bounty"?
I mean no indivual bounties but a global for the whole crew. Since now, only strong opponent like the BB or other pirates crew.
The drawback (I just find it) is that you can't be paid with only one member. Plus there won't be "rank" anymore, and one will hate that :x.
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I don't like comparing manga together, but I don't have a better illustration atm. Some character aren't good figther (talking about strength, stamina, etc…) but good at thinking, at acknowledging.
For example in Naruto, Sakura quickly learned how to manage her Chakra in order to climb the tree. Naruto and Sasuke, who's far better figthers, didn't. That's something like this here. Kalifa just 'feels it', there is nothing more to say. Do you really think Nami had already navigated in such whirlpools before ? No. Did she did it perfectly ? Yes, she felt it.While the devils in the Devil Fruits "tell" their users about the general orientation of applying their powers, the special tricks and such are derived through training. Originally, I wouldn't have been surprised if Califa, who isn't as much of fighter as Kaku, would have been able to master her fruit more easily; however, Oda showed us in that fight that Califa was hecka dumb so it's outrageously unrealistic for her to have gotten so powerful so quickly.
I'm not saying Kaku's dumb; all the CP9 (except Califa) seem pretty sharp, but he had a less-complicated Devil Fruit and yet still managed to come across as pretty deadly. He also threw away his swords in favour of his fruit, which I admired a lot since Califa didn't even bother with her Rose Whip.
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here my though
luffy 200 mil
robin 150 mil
zoro 140 mil
sanji 130 mil
chopper 60 mil
usopp (sogeking) 60 mil
nami 60 millet see whos closer, just a few more weeks….they will have new bounties