! Possible names, http://jinjojess.tumblr.com/post/149467906123/kibougamine-student-council-names
! Not that it matters.. They should be all from the 77 (the despairs) and 76th (Ruruka's year) classes.
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We didn't actualy see a few of them die, the secretary and the short haired girl seemed to die by the glasses boy.
Red haired lancer probably got killed by the secretary.
No idea on who killed the fat guy and the blonde guy.
No idea on who triggered the odango girl and the glasses guy to start killing.
The class president is supposed to be alive, Dangan Ronpa 0 spoilers.
Dangan Ronpa (Translated VN via SA) [Spoilers through DRV3]
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I wonder what their talents are.
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Seems like shit got real.
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Eh, as much as I like the brutality of it all I still feel a little detached when it was finally shown.
Like, normal people I can understand breaking under the despair and fear of the threats.
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I never liked the Junko twist in the first game anyway.
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Just gets to show you what Junko is capable of, she's an expert in the mindfucking department.
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! You just needed one crazy to make everything fall to pieces, here you had 3/4 very unhinged (secretary, odango, muscle and glasses) whose actions propagate as wildfire. Junko just fired her whole arsenal on them, from both games, in a minute. The purpose wasn't a show or a natural selection, but a slaughter.
! Just the need to survive would be enough for most to kill.–- Update From New Post Merge ---
Oh, dangan ronpa 0 has some of the missing deaths:
! one guy kills another guy with a chair to the head, while a girl with a meat cleaver kills him, and then some other dude with a tire iron stalks her.
! Fattie and Blondie are sure to be the two guys, the girl could be the secretary before getting the chainsaw, and the guy who stalked her was most likely glasses.
! The cleaver girl could have been either the secretary, the short haired one or the odango one. Assuming that tire iron didn't kill the later two, just stalked.
Tire iron guy could have been the glasses guy, or the president.
! All this assuming that the couple just escaped and got to their suicide corner quietly, and the lancer got the lance and didn't change it until he got the shovel.
! Next episode is supposed to take place during the time of dangan ronpa 0, so we migth get that info. -
! She's a walking plot device. Ah found out what I hated about her. I loved her role in the first game and to some extend the second.
But the more we see of her the more I'm starting to see the world's most despair inducing period more like a string of poor coincidences rather than a great master scheme.
So she's more of a smart opportunist than you know, actually that superior in terms of intelligence.
Putting into account the whole arsenal and how one person going mad leads to everyone going batshit because psychology(except it doesn't really work that way), her planning have so many things that could have gone wrong. -
! Well it's more like Junko's smart, but blinds herself for better or worse by operating on the principle of despair. I don't think she can really predict the extent of the damage she'll do, otherwise that would be as boring for her as anything else. All she's doing is getting as many people as possible involved and escalating as the chances present themselves.
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And this is why…
! Monaka is the smartest in that department. She realized how futile was to spread despair because hope will always win. Trying to convince her to become Junko's successor backfired spectacularly on Nagito.
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! It's not about being smart or winning or any of that. It's just about despair being an escape from boredom, which is something I thought was super clear after the Izuru episode. Junko don't give no fucks about winning or losing, she just wants to entertain herself. Monaka wasn't able to operate at that level of insane because she's just obviously not that bored with existence.
! Personally, I found other things in the episode more interesting than the murder game. Like, the fact that even the one kill Izuru made wasn't exactly murder as much as self-defense and the guy landing on his chainsaw, something which to a degree proves this guy is not as much insane killer as Junko and Mukuro. So far at least.
! There's also the whole deal of how exactly it is that Junko aims to use Mitarai… my guess is that she'll manipulate his anime into brainwashing the 77th class into despair... but then that begs the question of how Mitarai comes out of this one unscathed. Also interesting to see Mikan as the first one Junko gets her claws on and that potentially affecting the imposter as well. Who, btw, is turning out to be an excellent character.
! Also really appreciated the bit of exposition at the end with the recruiter. Makes his actions with Kyoko considerably less suspect. -
I'm afraid…
! Kizakura is going to bite it saving Kirigiri from some impeding death. He's a great friend of her father, and in the personality test he answered positively when presented with the following question: "Would you go as far as to give your life for a loved one?"
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! If Kizakura were the mastermind, though, wouldn't that be true despair?
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! For real, though, he's lower on my suspect list. The theory that's been gaining increasing traction in the community and my mind is that Makoto is the mastermind. The last eps of despair and future have a couple points that make this a possibility: 1. Monoca saying that Makoto will cause one of his friends to die, and 2. Junko had access to brainwashing powers. The idea is something like Junko blasted Makoto with a brainwash during the raid on the Neo World Program. Another thing of note is that Makoto's death in the intro is shooting himself in the head, which could hint at how this might need to end.
! Chisa's my second place suspect still, since our attention has been diverted a lot, and it could be some slight of hand. Mitarai comes in third due to Junko influence. Kazakura is fourth since no way are Munakata, Sakakura and sweets girl who probably has a name going to be the traitor. That wouldn't be a plot twist since we already know they're dicks. In fact, they're the most likely to survive because of that. I guess there are outsider possibilities like Byakuya or Kyoko, who were also in the Neo World Program, but they lack the setup and reasoning for making it Makoto, Byakuya wouldn't be satisfying since he isn't really involved with the game as we know, and Kyoko has death flags.
! Needless to say that I'm interested, once again, in how this will all end. Both anime so far have had their flaws, big and small, but as always, Dangan Ronpa has me hooked, impatient for what happens next. -
! If Kizakura were the mastermind, though, wouldn't that be true despair?
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! For real, though, he's lower on my suspect list. The theory that's been gaining increasing traction in the community and my mind is that Makoto is the mastermind. The last eps of despair and future have a couple points that make this a possibility: 1. Monoca saying that Makoto will cause one of his friends to die, and 2. Junko had access to brainwashing powers. The idea is something like Junko blasted Makoto with a brainwash during the raid on the Neo World Program. Another thing of note is that Makoto's death in the intro is shooting himself in the head, which could hint at how this might need to end.
! Chisa's my second place suspect still, since our attention has been diverted a lot, and it could be some slight of hand. Mitarai comes in third due to Junko influence. Kazakura is fourth since no way are Munakata, Sakakura and sweets girl who probably has a name going to be the traitor. That wouldn't be a plot twist since we already know they're dicks. In fact, they're the most likely to survive because of that. I guess there are outsider possibilities like Byakuya or Kyoko, who were also in the Neo World Program, but they lack the setup and reasoning for making it Makoto, Byakuya wouldn't be satisfying since he isn't really involved with the game as we know, and Kyoko has death flags.
! Needless to say that I'm interested, once again, in how this will all end. Both anime so far have had their flaws, big and small, but as always, Dangan Ronpa has me hooked, impatient for what happens next.Sorry to burst your bubble, but…
! The shock on Munakata's face upon learning from Tenga about the identity of the mastermind behind this makes totally impossible that this person is Makoto.
! Honestly, none of the current survivors strike me as the culprit. Mitarai comes a bit close because of his contact with Junko, but thats' it. I've long learned what a red herring is.
! So this leaves out the last person to suspect: Chisa Yukizome.
! Yeah, she's dead, I know. And… who else was presumed dead during the first chapter of Danganronpa, shortly after the first murder?
! Whenever one participant is murdered, the same music plays in the background. Fittingly, a different tune played when Aoi appeared "dead". But no music played when Yukizome was killed.
! And I honestly can't think of any other person that would shock Munakata this much, to the point of going batshit insane, injecting himself with Seiko's enhancing drug and turning into a crazy psychotic monster. Because this is what he has become.
! As for Monaka's warning, watch that not turning out to be another troll. Or maybe she was referring to someone from a different class other than 78th. Afterall, there have been several mutual killing games through the course of this story.
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! I actually think Chisa being the culprit is a big red herring if we are serious. Likely because
A) She looks painfully like Junko on occasions
B) The first episode of Despair side was her still being alive after the events of Future side which makes no sense. I don't think DRRR ever did go full Meta.
C) The first person dead = the culprit twist has been done before, I thought she was the culprit on the first episode just on that fact alone.
D) Munakata went back and plunge the sword into her, largely implying that she could have faked her death.
! That makes her suspicious yes but I like to think that's the whole point, she's not the culprit in my eyes. It's too obvious.
The other guy will the Ultimate Farmer. You know that afro dude with high pitched voice? The antidote could have actually worked based on what we saw. He might have that in his planning and purposely let himself get hit to die first. That and his dead body was never shown after everyone else left the room.
! Ganzo(Gonzo?) the horse head dude's face was also never shown. Now I'm not one for far fetched theories but I think it's a possibility that the person under the mask to be different from before he is killed and after he is killed. Then the mask would serve it's purpose. We never saw his face and the only one that did was Kyouko.
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! Ganzo(Gonzo?) the horse head dude's face was also never shown. Now I'm not one for far fetched theories but I think it's a possibility that the person under the mask to be different from before he is killed and after he is killed. Then the mask would serve it's purpose. We never saw his face and the only one that did was Kyouko.
! You mean The Great Gozu? The former SHSL Pro-Wrestler? He wears a Bull Mask not a Horse.
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! You mean The Great Gozu? The former SHSL Pro-Wrestler? He wears a Bull Mask not a Horse.
! Ah crap I'm sorry. Yeah I always mixed up Horse and Bull Masks because of the Chinese Mythology they are used in. That's the guy
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! Wrong. The first victim in DR was Sayaka, not the fake Junko aka Mukuro. So the first to die = the culprit hasn't been done before.
! And the circumstances in which the two murders happen are also different. Mukuro got killed by Monokuma (Junko) for breaking the rules. Meanwhile, Yukizome appeared hanging on the ceilling without warning. Is not the same thing. -
Am I the only one who dislike Naegi's new hair?
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! Oh yeah, forgot about old dude saying a name. Maybe he just said Junko Enoshima again, though, and that implicates Makoto. I think he would be the most interesting solution, because he's the most relevant to the narrative and the most despairiest. He'd have to reconcile his role as a hope dude with an internal despair planted inside. Plus it would be a semi-reasonable way for Junko to be the real villain again.
! Chisa would also be fun since it would parallel the first game, and it would mess with Munakata and Sakakura who definitely need to be put in their place.
! Mitarai being brainwashed by Junko would also fit the Junko angle mentioned earlier, but I think he's too obvious for that angle, and his character would kinda just be a shell if that were to happen.
! Kizakura I think would be twisty for the sake of a twist, and he's been made to look overtly sketchy. I guess his character's more of a blank slate than anyone else's and could be built upon, plus certainly has connections to the main cast through Kyoko, but I'm not sure I like this angle.
! It would be really weird if it were sweets girl, since otherwise she would have killed Seiko off quickly. I guess it would be an outside shot, but that's kind of weird. She also doesn't have a whole lot of relevance to the other characters.
! Munakata and Sakakura would be kinda boring as masterminds since we already hate them, so it doesn't mess with us too much to see them as villains. I do think that there's some decent material if they did turn out the be the villains, so, since Munakata is the most active and vocal opposition to despair, and Sakakura has done a lot of shit to set this all in motion, whether he knows it or not. Plus, we'd get to see the shit beaten out of whichever one is despair. Still, I don't think it would add much to the events as they are, like it does for them to be assholes in spite of this. They're more likely to be manipulated than manipulate I think. Chisa manipulating them would be justifiable since they've known each other like that, and Junko doing things from beyond the grave could easily play them against others with her skills. Kizakura would know them through as a scout and colleague, I guess. It's harder to buy sweets girl or Mitarai being able to do that (except through Junko brainwashing, which would make Mitarai more likely than sweets girl).
! Come to think about it, it's likely that whoever's orchestrating this really did try to stir up Munakata and Sakakura, since Chisa was 'killed' first, and their history has been given a lot of attention in both anime.
! Those are my basic thoughts on each possiblity. I haven't looked back at old dude's vocalization, but it doesn't seem anybody's picked anyone out from it. At this point, I couldn't possibly pick out a culprit for sure, and Kodaka is twisty, so I'll likely be surprised to a degree with the result no matter what. I guess that's why I'm trying to keep my mind limber on this and throw out as much as I can in the way of guesses. -
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! Oh yeah, forgot about old dude saying a name. Maybe he just said Junko Enoshima again, though, and that implicates Makoto. I think he would be the most interesting solution, because he's the most relevant to the narrative and the most despairiest. He'd have to reconcile his role as a hope dude with an internal despair planted inside. Plus it would be a semi-reasonable way for Junko to be the real villain again.
! Chisa would also be fun since it would parallel the first game, and it would mess with Munakata and Sakakura who definitely need to be put in their place.
! Mitarai being brainwashed by Junko would also fit the Junko angle mentioned earlier, but I think he's too obvious for that angle, and his character would kinda just be a shell if that were to happen.
! Kizakura I think would be twisty for the sake of a twist, and he's been made to look overtly sketchy. I guess his character's more of a blank slate than anyone else's and could be built upon, plus certainly has connections to the main cast through Kyoko, but I'm not sure I like this angle.
! It would be really weird if it were sweets girl, since otherwise she would have killed Seiko off quickly. I guess it would be an outside shot, but that's kind of weird. She also doesn't have a whole lot of relevance to the other characters.
! Munakata and Sakakura would be kinda boring as masterminds since we already hate them, so it doesn't mess with us too much to see them as villains. I do think that there's some decent material if they did turn out the be the villains, so, since Munakata is the most active and vocal opposition to despair, and Sakakura has done a lot of shit to set this all in motion, whether he knows it or not. Plus, we'd get to see the shit beaten out of whichever one is despair. Still, I don't think it would add much to the events as they are, like it does for them to be assholes in spite of this. They're more likely to be manipulated than manipulate I think. Chisa manipulating them would be justifiable since they've known each other like that, and Junko doing things from beyond the grave could easily play them against others with her skills. Kizakura would know them through as a scout and colleague, I guess. It's harder to buy sweets girl or Mitarai being able to do that (except through Junko brainwashing, which would make Mitarai more likely than sweets girl).
! Come to think about it, it's likely that whoever's orchestrating this really did try to stir up Munakata and Sakakura, since Chisa was 'killed' first, and their history has been given a lot of attention in both anime.
! Those are my basic thoughts on each possiblity. I haven't looked back at old dude's vocalization, but it doesn't seem anybody's picked anyone out from it. At this point, I couldn't possibly pick out a culprit for sure, and Kodaka is twisty, so I'll likely be surprised to a degree with the result no matter what. I guess that's why I'm trying to keep my mind limber on this and throw out as much as I can in the way of guesses.! I read somewhere in some tumblr someone trying to decipher what Tengen voiced, and a possibility that they came up with is something in japanese equivalent to multiple people being the attackers.
! As for who's orchestrating, I would find it interesting if it had been someone who already died who set the game in motion and it's the chaos of competing "hopes" and disarray that's kept people killing each other. Mostly since it's heavily implied that Munakata was the one awake in this last round since he got Seiko's medicine and had the sword that Izayoi didn't pick up in the library (though the ongoing theory is that Ruruka was the one to accidentally killed Izayoi by giving him candy and triggering the poison, and then hiding that by taking the knife from Seiko's body and covering Izayoi in make-up.)
! Main problem with this is the situation of various victims now being hoisted on the walls or roof. For Gozu we could assume it was Monaka who did it and then did the asahina troll, but then if Munakata killed Seiko, why did he hoist her body up? Maybe it's a condition? Though it's not something everyone would be able to do…
! The other thing that I keep wondering about is why is Hagakure even in this and if his character will have any point to him whatsoever. I would love the mindfucky-ness of him having been despaired long ago, but it just doesn't seem realistically possible in any way. -
It is shorter. Almost like Hajime.
true, I didn't notice it till now. I like the change though
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! I think that we are supposed to take Monaka's word for true, she didn't kill anyone in the game, except the therapist before it started. This poses some weird questions, whomever put the bands knew that she was a droid, she avoided asahina's contact so most likely she is made to only look real, not act, sound or feel real, she has turned right in some moments, but the band didn't trigger, as it didn't make the game over sound, and didn't flash the letters. Also being a robot, she didn't go to sleep and was in the same room as the great gozu when he was killed, then how did she not see the attacker? Or wait, did she said she knows in the last chapter and that was the "Google it, stupid" thing?
! Speaking of the bands, how are they being enforced? Is someone watching them and activate them on case by case basis? are they smart enough to know when the person breaks their action? They are in a virtual world and it's easier to implement the rules? (unlikely as Monaka/Gekohara link seems pretty real time, and how do you plug a robot to the matrix and keep the link?)
! Kizakura hasn't taken his left hand out of his pocket, is it his action? if so how did he see it before it activated? Is more likely that he's keeping it hidden from himself to test the damn things.
! Bandai was too easy to trigger. The reasoning probably was the same in-plot as in meta, to make sure that someone died in front of everybody because of the poison so they know to be scared of it.
! Hakagure is also there to mess up with us, he's not participating in the game as he doesn't have a band, but the count either includes him, or there is another hidden character.
! Checking the future fundation wikia page, there's a roll for each of the 14th branches, most fit with their respective talents and personalities, (or past, in chisa's case, as the lead of espionage and counterinteligence) except that Kirigiri seems to be in charge of the PR branch, thing that doesn't make sense at all, as she would be more suited to the security or inteligence branches. And that the great gozu was in charge of transport, comunication and public services for some reason.
! Finaly, there's the business about the 13th branch, the only things that we know about it is that Asahina is a member, and that is in charge of distribution of resources to the frontlines. While this is in line with Asahina's personality, she would fit in the 14th branch as well, and is the only survivor outside the 14th branch. It is suspicious that this person the only branch leader that is not in the game (or dead), and in case of the extermination of the rest of the chain of comand they and Tokoyami would be the leaders of the future fundation. -
! Did Monaca say that the only person she killed was the identity she assumed? If that's the case can we safety assume that someone else killed Gozu or that she never did anything to him? I forgot.
! Wrong. The first victim in DR was Sayaka, not the fake Junko aka Mukuro. So the first to die = the culprit hasn't been done before.
! And the circumstances in which the two murders happen are also different. Mukuro got killed by Monokuma (Junko) for breaking the rules. Meanwhile, Yukizome appeared hanging on the ceilling without warning. Is not the same thing.! That's a pretty roundabout way to put it. Sure, Mukuro wasn't a "victim" in that sense but it still doesn't change she was the first to die. However I still don't believe she is the culprit. It's not like she was hanged there without any purpose, it's the same thing with Mukuro actually. Monokuma had to make a point like with Mukuro. Just like you can pick out the differences, the similarities should not be ignored.
Just because one is killed with spears infront of everyone and the other is killed hidden from everyone else doesn't change the fact that both was first to die to the true culprit to make a point.
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! if you want to compare the first game to this anime, then the logical thing would be for Sayaka and Chisa comparisons… the one in this anime that got Junko'd (or mukuro'd, w.e.) is Bandai
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! But Banda got himself killed because of his own action. In Mukuro's case, Junko clearly wanted her to die.
Like even in Bandai's case, it was unplanned but Mukuro death was calculated.
If you are approaching from the culprit's viewpoint, Sayaka = Chisa doesn't make much sense either because in this case Monokuma is
the culprit whereas that was not the case for Sayaka's death.
Chisa=Mukuro/Junko means that they are both the first victim of Monokuma, not someone else.
! But if your point is that both Junko and Bandai got killed because of an "accident" hence their similarity and how Sayaka died first to a killer instead of getting impaled by Monokuma then I get your point. But in this case you have to take in mind that the killer IS Monokuma. -
Today's episode will be late again, be prepared
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May I ask why are we discussing the anime here in the Videogame section instead of where it should?
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They are the same plot and part of the same experience. Also wagomu did it.
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May I ask why are we discussing the anime here in the Videogame section instead of where it should?
Because it's a direct continuation of the game's story, discussion on the anime when it was upcoming took place here, and to contain spoilers for the series to a single place? Plus I wasn't sure how much traffic or discussion a separate thread would get.
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When will the American release for the unreleased third game: 2018? Any thoughts?
EDIT: Anyways, I still have the second game to play, but considering how quickly I went through the first one (2 days) (finished early in this morning), I doubt it will be much longer till I forced to wait for the next installment in the story.
EDIT 2: Is the second game really much better than the first, because personally I found it to be pretty great as a standalone game?
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When will the American release for the unreleased third game: 2018? Any thoughts?
Likely a year to a few months behind the Japanese release.
EDIT 2: Is the second game really much better than the first, because personally I found it to be pretty great as a standalone game?
Ehhhhh I'd say no mostly due to a certain reveal later in the game (the 1st was already straining suspension of disbelief as is) but that reveal does make what happens the fate of the characters more palatable.
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http://jkanime.net/danganronpa-3-the-end-of-kibougamine-gakuen-mirai-hen/8/ Spanish fansub, before funimation
! When they changed perspective to when the picture was taken I shed a tear. Creep on Hatman, creep on.
! Gekkohara berserk mode is awesome. I guess as an automated battle robot she's still in the count of participants, as it was 10 when the capter started (T_T)
! Asuming that the building explosion just didn't kill everybody, then the logical conclusion is that either they are in a secundary location (I didn't pay close atention to the debris) or are underground in the same building.
! Considering that we are down to assholes (munakata, sakakura, ruruka) the survivors of the first Dangan Ronpa (naegi, asahina, kirigiri) the robot who definitely wasn't the killer, the guy who was with junko on her junkiest and the unnacounted final participant.
! Also the translation was a bit wonky when Sakakura snaped out of the drug candy that he claimed that he was going to kill Kizakura (who was already dead by that point), and with the traps in the office, Kizakura claimed that Izayoi planted them, but I find it hard to belive, as he got there, scouted the room, and then went for Ruruka, and died, not enough time to plant such complex traps, but then again, it would be in character with the super talents of the series.
! They are leaving the future fundation without leaders, Munakata fell to despair or something close enough, Ruruka is not fit to lead as she didn't had the common sense to tell her boyfriend to "lets put on hold the leaving the building thing, until we can remove the brazalets, or I'll die, and you'll starve to death", Sakakura is just a thug, asuming that Anime Boy isn't the traitor he isn't fit to lead the fundation because he's spineless (or a remanant of despair), Kirigiri is suicidal (she tasted the saliva of a poisoned corpse!, yes it's in the blood but she didn't know that, and unless her forbidden action is "you can't leave a case unsolved" it wasn't a good idea). -
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! - Kizakura: forbidden to open his left hand.- Juzo: forbidden to use his fists to fight.
- Izayoi: forbidden to eat anything.
- Ruruka: forbidden to allow anyone to leave the building.
! Ok, Ruruka was an alpha bitch in this episode. But… I can't bring myself to hate her even after all she did, for two reasons.
! The first is that her forbidden code is one of the most unfair if not the most.
! The second is that the traitor is taking advantage of her insecurity issues. Yes, after this episode I can confirm, that each forbidden action is set to mess up with the issues of a person in particular. As the best example of that you have Juzo, who's the Ultimate Boxer, and his action forbids him of using what he does best. Ruruka on the other hand has been shown to have a hard time trusting anyone, so is no wonder she inavertedly killed Izayoi.
! Speaking about Juzo, going by that flashback with him lying on the ground injured and a last memory of Junko's slasher smile, I can tell he's going to redeem himself big in the end.
! Munakata on the other hand... his current appearance says it all.
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! Man this is really going to shit fast. Like you would think Ruruka would be smarter.
Juzo is the epitome of stupidity here.
"I'll finish this for Munakata" "Oh look its the exit I'm done with this shit"
At least in the despair arc his actions have some sense of justification to them but here he is a complete douche AND an idiot.
! The entire scene with Kirigiri calling out on Ruruka while was cool was not unexpected because I'm sure most people already knew she's the one who killed Izayoi. I hope this isn't going to be the only time her detective skills are put to good use.
! Kizakura, you the real mvp. You and the old dude probably should have stayed around longer to laugh at the brats.
! Naegi is really better suited for classroom debates than crying out he will not anyone die every single episode. -
! what if munakata's forbidden action is "stab a despair"? He stabbed Chisa to be certain that she hasn't anything to do with despair
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! what if munakata's forbidden action is "stab a despair"? He stabbed Chisa to be certain that she hasn't anything to do with despair
! Each forbidden action deals with a particular issue or forte of the user. Like I said, Ruruka's deals with her insecurity issues, which lead to she inadvertedly kill Izayoi and attempt murder anyone who would try to uncover the hidden exit, all to ensure her survival. Her lack of trust in people also dates back to her childhood days.
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That was the whole point of the old man taunting him. Saying how much he has sacrificed and for what, a forbidden action that would kill him if he accomplishes his goal would fit with the theme.
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! Facts that deal with the location they are in.
! Why is there a Monokuma-shaped door, in the HQ of the Future Foundation built by Munakata.
! The whole worldwide broadcast was a big lie, there are no cameras in the basement.
! The building collapsed, and yet they are just fine. There are also a number of inconsistences between the place they were before and where they woke up.
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! yeah, they obviously been moved. Kirigiri noticed that a dent in the wall from the first chapter wasn't there on the second, and the monokuma motifs spreaded too fast to be something else. And togami didn't react ultil the communication went through, so they couldn't have been out too long and been lied to, or the whole foundation and not just team 14th would be there.
There is also the same vault door from the first game as the final scene of the op. But whatever it is, its unlikely they went far away, as Hagakure has been on top of the building all this time, and we should have seen any vehicle leaving the tower. -
I have a question. I realize most people on this thread have played the first game, but I decided to put spoilers on this anyway.
! In the bad ending, where Kyoko dies instead of Makoto, why is Toko just seen as a picture in the group picture of Togami, Hiro, Makoto, Aoi, and their children? Did she die or something?
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! In the bad ending, where Kyoko dies instead of Makoto, why is Toko just seen as a picture in the group picture of Togami, Hiro, Makoto, Aoi, and their children? Did she die or something?
! She killed herself because Togami had a child with Aoi.
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That picture was extremely funny once it hits you.
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she tripped on her shoelaces and exploded
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I have a question. I realize most people on this thread have played the first game, but I decided to put spoilers on this anyway.
! In the bad ending, where Kyoko dies instead of Makoto, why is Toko just seen as a picture in the group picture of Togami, Hiro, Makoto, Aoi, and their children? Did she die or something?
Likely giving birth…..or the writers simply got lazy.
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God damnit! I should've never came to this thread. I ended up spoiling the major plot points of the second game in chain reaction of Internet searches that were rooted in this thread. Oh well. I'm gonna play it, because, shit, it's damn good.
! At least I'm prepared for Junko to be the main villain again. I guess that's a plus cause I didn't really want that.