I think Asura officially moved Zoro beyond the little knife - he'd probably get his ass handed to him by the big blade, but seeing as how there isn't a middle ground choice I'm saying he'd deserve the big blade now
How far has Zoro come?
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Being a Shichibukai means you are allowed to live despite the fact that you are a pirate. As such you have some obligations.
Mihawk is a dog of the government like it or not, he is given assignments he must complete if he doesn't want the other 6 shichibukai coming after his ass (although that would be a hot sidestory/arc)I feel Zoro has began mastering 2 of his swords, now I have no proof to back it up, but the difference in styles suggests to me Zoro may be using techniques each of the Katanas were meant for. So he still has one sword to master.
Once he masters all 3 he'll have reached 50 percent. Like Mihawk said "surpass this sword" to surpass this sword is easy, to surpass the swordsman is hard. once Zoro learns to use each of his Katanas to it's fullest he'll need to learn how to be an incredible swordsman, despite all his achievements it would be premature for him to already be strong enough to face Mihawk.Also please stop this "Before Shanks lost his arm" bullshit. Oda stated clearly Shanks has not lost any of his fighting abilities by losing his good arm, so stop making crap up. Shanks is a good enough swordsman to rival Mihawk, but is also an elite pirate which to me suggests Zoro will never be = to Shanks. Only Luffy can achieve Shankslike ability.
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Being a Shichibukai means you are allowed to live despite the fact that you are a pirate. As such you have some obligations.
Mihawk is a dog of the government like it or not, he is given assignments he must complete if he doesn't want the other 6 shichibukai coming after his ass (although that would be a hot sidestory/arc)I feel Zoro has began mastering 2 of his swords, now I have no proof to back it up, but the difference in styles suggests to me Zoro may be using techniques each of the Katanas were meant for. So he still has one sword to master.
Once he masters all 3 he'll have reached 50 percent. Like Mihawk said "surpass this sword" to surpass this sword is easy, to surpass the swordsman is hard. once Zoro learns to use each of his Katanas to it's fullest he'll need to learn how to be an incredible swordsman, despite all his achievements it would be premature for him to already be strong enough to face Mihawk.Also please stop this "Before Shanks lost his arm" bullshit. Oda stated clearly Shanks has not lost any of his fighting abilities by losing his good arm, so stop making crap up. Shanks is a good enough swordsman to rival Mihawk, but is also an elite pirate which to me suggests Zoro will never be = to Shanks. Only Luffy can achieve Shankslike ability.
zoro is going to be the strongest swordsman and shanks is a swordsman,end of story
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@yokaiforte:
In any case, though, The black blade is a better made blade than a mere knife. Also, I doubt that Mihawk can pull off cutting ships with a mere knife.
That's following the logic that a 31 inch iron and steel sword can't cut a solid stalk about 15 feet around.
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That's following the logic that a 31 inch iron and steel sword can't cut a solid stalk about 15 feet around.
While that's true, I still believe that the black blade is of a much finer make than the knife.
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Also please stop this "Before Shanks lost his arm" bullshit. Oda stated clearly Shanks has not lost any of his fighting abilities by losing his good arm, so stop making crap up.
The question i raised wasn't wether his ability withered but whether or not it improved with the loss of his arm, kinda like a human beings senses.
Shanks is a good enough swordsman to rival Mihawk, but is also an elite pirate which to me suggests Zoro will never be = to Shanks. Only Luffy can achieve Shankslike ability.
I too feel that Shanks is a notch above Mihawk though i know Oda has stated otherwise, i think Zoro will find it harder to defeat Shanks than he will do Mihawk but that's just gut feelings talking and a lot of hope.
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The reason I say what I say isn't because of Mihawk as a singular being, is weaker than Shanks, quite the contrary.
However Mihawk is dependant on the WG, they can betray him/dump him/arrest him at any time (not to say they're evil, he's a pirate).Shanks depends on his crew, who can mutiny him… But looking at how he treats his crew with all the drinking, partying, women, protection from Shichibukai, drinking, avoiding battles unless you're a high officer, drinking. I'd say they're pretty comfortable with their captain and would die for him considering he'd die for them and never asks them to protect them if they aren't one of his top 5 (including Rockstar).
So Yes I do believe Shanks is > Mihawk because of that Shanks + crew = AoKoji + Marines > Mihawk + allies (who so far.. only Shanks is seen to be his ally).
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You forgot the drinking Refii.
And I dunno If Rockstar is top5 in Shanks crew.
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the shichibuiki are dogs of the world government, as part of the deal that makes them shichibuiki they have to do certain jobs when requested.
No.. they just go cream pirates and do whatever they feel like.
Mihawk got rid of Kreig on his own. What you are saying has absolutely no backup.
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No.. they just go cream pirates and do whatever they feel like.
Mihawk got rid of Kreig on his own. What you are saying has absolutely no backup.
despite loosely quoting the manga hmmm :o\
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No.. they just go cream pirates and do whatever they feel like.
Mihawk got rid of Kreig on his own. What you are saying has absolutely no backup.
Do you remember the Buster Call??? If Mihawk were to say no, he'd be wiped out by thee WG.
And as for Krieg: His bounty was 17,000,000 compared to a 3,000,000 average in East Blue, plus the 50 warships and being able to bench 3 tons effortlessely. Yeah, he's not much of a threat.
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As long as their final battle takes place on a Big fucking staircase I'll be happy
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zoro … currently, he can cut thinks from about 10meters distance, and can attack with x pound cannon flying sword,
but he still can not cut thinks more than 100meters distance as mihawk did to don kriek ship.
so, zoro still need more improvements
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@Masta:
Do you remember the Buster Call??? If Mihawk were to say no, he'd be wiped out by thee WG.
And as for Krieg: His bounty was 17,000,000 compared to a 3,000,000 average in East Blue, plus the 50 warships and being able to bench 3 tons effortlessely. Yeah, he's not much of a threat.
Why couldn't Mihawk just destory those ships too? Trying to kill one man with 10 warships would be a mess. Come to think of it, using 10 warships to kill a man that can destroy a ship is ineffective anyway, you don't use a weapon of mass destruction to kill one person. You'd send assassins or troops for that.
It seems that people are underestimating the strength of the shichibukai now that they're not in the spotlight.
The idea with these shichibukai is that the marines can kill them, but it would take immense force and resources. It's extremely difficult.
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@Rai:
My opinion is that every arc will be for every dream, or maybe two dreams per arc. Anyway, Zoro's will be the first if that's the case. [Hearing the crew saying "Man.. Zoro's already done.. I wanna achieve my dream too.." will be somwhat funny.]
Luffy's, Zoro's, Nami's, Chopper and Ussop's dreams are never ending. Luffy and Zoro have to defend their titles from newcomers (Pirate King & World's Greatest Swordsman), Nami has to travel the Grand Line at least 4 more times (I believe this is correct) to draw a map of the whole world (as well as visit West Blue, North Blue, South Blue), Chopper will always want to see what new disease he can cure and Ussop has to continue overcoming challenges to stay a brave man of the sea.
The only dreams that seem to have any conclusions are Sanji's, Robin's, and Franky's (seems inevitable that he will join at this point). Even still, Robin can still gather more information about other civilizations on the Grand Line (after finding the Rio Poneglyph), and Franky can always work to improve ships. After they find All Blue, Sanji can learn new cooking techniques from different areas of the world.
The point of the adventure has changed from just being out their individual dreams and helping each other attain their dreams. The adventure now focuses on both attaining their dreams, as well as, sailing together for the sake of comraderie. I think Nami said it while on the Maxim to Enel that she did not want to go with him because she wants to sail with the Mugiwaras just one more time (paraphrase).
In my opinion, I believe the story will end once One Piece is found (at least the written story). Oda will probably disperse the crew to their respective villages or places, and then he will reunite them for a new adventure because they realize that they can't be without each other. The rest will be left up to the reader's imagination. At least that's what I think, but there's no way to tell right now.
I'll reassess this in 10 years or so when this story is over (if I'm alive by then).
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Why couldn't Mihawk just destory those ships too? Trying to kill one man with 10 warships would be a mess. Come to think of it, using 10 warships to kill a man that can destroy a ship is ineffective anyway, you don't use a weapon of mass destruction to kill one person. You'd send assassins or troops for that.
It seems that people are underestimating the strength of the shichibukai now that they're not in the spotlight.
The idea with these shichibukai is that the marines can kill them, but it would take immense force and resources. It's extremely difficult.
I agree that Mihawk could take out the 10 warships by himself. I'm betting that the 3 Admirals, maybe Sengoku, Shanks, Whitebeard, and all of the Shichibukai could probably do that. That doesn't include other powerhouses such as Enel, Ace and others who could probably do the same. If the BC was so effective against Whitebeard for instance, then why haven't they used it yet against him?
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If the Admirals were so strong, how come they haven't ambushed Whitebeard? Okay.
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We don't know anything about Whitebeard to make that assumption. For all we know, he could have eaten a Devil Fruit that Nullifies other Devil fruits (A concept I've been waiting for in One Piece forever). Plus, Whitebeard probably has a deal with them, not to mention a crew of super-human men like Ace.
We really don't know much about any of the other admirals, except that Sukazuki is a little TOO thorough in his methods, and Sengoku has a pet goat. Maybe the goat is Sengoku and the dude is the translator. XD I've also noticed Kuzan and Sengoku look a lot alike, perhaps father-son. On top of that, Sengoku is also unconcerned with what's happening in the blues ("Crane, who's this guy?"). He also must have some amazing devil fruit for a guy like Doflamingo to respect him, being that Doflamingo (supposedly) ate the Geki Geki no Mi.
I think that The World Government holds something valuable to the pirates that they want back. I'm not going as far as saying it's One Piece. And Oda's not stupid and won't make it some kind of ultimate weapon (Such as Posiedon or Pluton; if they had it, why the hell would Spandam want Nico Robin). I think they have some kind of generator that creates the current flow of the Grand Line to control Pirate/citizen access. Magnetic fields don't fluctuate as much as the Grand Line makes them. The real question is why Nami doesn't use a sextant and the stars to navigate. The Log Pose is too much a limited gimmick. When Compasses didn't work, there was a zillion other ways for pirates and seamen to navigate. After all, they didn't use the Log Pose to find Drum, did they? It was found purely by chance. They were LOST after Nami fell ill and ran into Wapol, then continued drifting for about a week until they ran into Drum. Once Nami was well, THEN they used the ETERNAL pose to go to Alabasta.
I really wish that episode of the anime with Luffy, Chopper and Zoro finding a Poneglyph wasn't filler. Oda's killing us with the suspense…