I understand Kaizoku Fansubs does high Quality work ripped from the Official DVDs, my question is, From episode 207 on Toei Produced them in HD for HD Tvs, and now it seems the Widescreen HD versions of the Episodes Will NOT be appearing at DVD (at least it appears so at this point)
does anyone know what Kaizoku Plans to do for these Episodes? will they continue DVD only or will they use the Much Superior HD Widescreen Episodes? have they mentioned this on their Forums?
Thank you.
A Question regarding Kaizoku's Future Releases of 207+
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Why don't you post it at their forums and ask them directly?
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They'll be using the DVDs as that gives them an excuse to keep on removing the text from their OPs and EDs.
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They'll be using the DVDs as that gives them an excuse to keep on removing the text from their OPs and EDs.
which text are you exactly talking about?
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The text in the intro that lists Eiichiro Oda's name and the ending credits which list the cast names. I've already got a test version of Ending 13, and it looks ugly now that the text has been removed.
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I really have no idea what you are talking about. perhaps you would like to post a pic or two to show me
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Really? Cause on the DVDs the text is still there. Unless you mean the opening/ending DVDs or special features on some. But regularly the DVDs have the credits on the video.
My best guess is wait and see, go back and redo some old episodes to see what avex mode or Toei does. Or use the tv rips and rerelease when dvds with widescreen come out (replace the audio though to get rid of the annoying ding from weather reports). Or release the DVD quality and make another release when the HD come to disc.
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@EvilGamerX:
Really? Cause on the DVDs the text is still there. Unless you mean the opening/ending DVDs or special features on some. But regularly the DVDs have the credits on the video.
My best guess is wait and see, go back and redo some old episodes to see what avex mode or Toei does. Or use the tv rips and rerelease when dvds with widescreen come out (replace the audio though to get rid of the annoying ding from weather reports). Or release the DVD quality and make another release when the HD come to disc.
There is usually an option in DVDs to have the OPS/EDs with or without text.
The reason KF does DVD rips is for the better quality over TV rips.
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yeah, I heard that there are people who think Kaizoku Removes the Text to claim that "They Created One Piece" which I know is a boldfaced lie
if you go to their website they Mention Oda in updates and such. but it doesnt matter even if they leave it in, because his name is in Kanji and unless they go through and translate Every name in the credits (which will make the screen VERY cluttered) the English Speaking Fanbase (who FanSUBS are aimed at) wouldnt be able to read them anyway! Plus, I just watched the Op Themes for EVERY fansub I have, and Nobody Except Bleach Society Translates the Credits, and they didnt Start Fansubbing Bleach till ep 35. so are all of the Fansub Groups trying to claim they made the anime Because they don't have it say in english "Kubo Tite, Original Manga, weekly Shounen Jump" or "eichiro Oda, Original Manga, Weeklky Shounen Jump" in english? Because the Fanbase whom the Fansubs are aimed at couldnt Read the names in Kanji Anyway
Plus, it's not like they Never had a release with Oda's name in it. because the first I think 50 episodes from Kaizoku have the Credits intact, and in order to get that Far in the story (to the point where they remove the credits) you HAVE to watch these version episodes with the Names intact OR read the manga, which has Oda's name on it. so No matter what, you KNOW who makes One Piece -
which text are you exactly talking about?
Original Opening 4 with text:
Textless Opening 4(w/ KF subs)
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I think they just do this in order to show off their SSA effects instead of the normal karaoke.
And Ending 13 is already done.
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There isn't really option to turn off the text on the DVDs. How do I know? I OWN SOME. I also own a DVD with textless openings and endings. That is what is usually ripped and put in with the episodes. Many months ago there was a DVD that contained Openings 1-5 and Endings 1-15. NOT FROM THE EPISODE DVDs. The DVDs with the episodes have the text. I'm looking at my DVD right now. Yea, show me how the text can be turned off.
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Homestly, I don't have the DVDs, and I don't know if their is a way to turn the text off. I was just making a generalization about most DVDs.
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I know I have ONE dvd of Yu Yu Hakusho that FUNimation released and you have a textless op/ed as special features but thats the only DVD I got like that.
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FUNi usually does that on their own for their releases (except for DB/Z). FUNimation and Toei/Avex mode…. different distributors.
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They'll be using the DVDs as that gives them an excuse to keep on removing the text from their OPs and EDs.
Note to unknownfile look up for me the release dates on the dvds before you speak on behalf for a group you don't even work for.
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How did people get a torrent of the test of Ending 13?
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The opening looks way better without all the text covering it.
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yeah, It's Much less cluttered and the Karaoke looks better.
but anyway, Does anyone know if they Plan to use the HD Eps or not yet? -
does anyone even have HDTV raws of 207 and up?
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I know I used to… But I had to make room on my computer. I might have burned them. But I can check.
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http://www.mininova.org/tor/159922 - This is a Torrent of The WHOLE series in HQ raw format (up to Episode 242) and Episodes 207-242 are all HD on it. I thought there were no Seeders at first But i let it sit for a while and Now I have quite a few.
I'll let it download (im only Dling epi 207-242) and I'll keep seeding them after its done
243 244 245 246 247 248 249
I can't find all the 250's at moment, but everything 261 up is abvilible in high quality HD 1280x720) so all that needs to be found is 250 - 260 -
An unfortuntely widespread misconception is that DVD standard widescreen resolution can be called HDTV. HDTV is 1280x720, those raws are 704x396, which makes them even lower quality than normal full screen.
Fullscreen resolution is 640x480 pixels which is 307,200. 704x396 is 278,784. This means that there are fewer total pixels in every widescreen resolution episode, and even fewer in the portion of animation which both widescreen and fullscreen share. For any given screen area, the fullscreen raw will have more detail. The only problem is the cropped animation. :/
I was looking for raws in true HDTV resolution, since they seem to be all but non-existent. :/
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I see, well, we have about 14 Episodes till you guys get to 207, if We can find the True HD Raws before then or Toei Announces Widescreen DVDs will you be using them?
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You could always go back to some of the earlier eps for HQ releases for like a month and just see what plays out. I'm sure if they get enough questions, we are bound to see an answer sooner or later.
Anyone check avex mode's list for HD DVDs or Blu-rays (depends which side they are taking).
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Sure, i would have no objections at all to using HDTV raws :)
I just have never seen them ;/
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They will still have fun storm warnings on the video and those tone alerts (unless you use audio from the DVDs). =/
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well, 261 + is availible in True HD, I know im Dling 267 right now.
Im thinking if those are availible, it's POSSIBLE the Rest is too. if it is that means finding it is the problem.
I just hope Toei Releases the HD eps on DVD -
I don't know of any group or person who has archived older HDTV episodes of One Piece :(
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im gonna download all of the HQ Raws that are availible (261 - 267) and Keep looking for more before that
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I like how the screencaps on the back of the DVDs are widesceen >_>
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I don't know of any group or person who has archived older HDTV episodes of One Piece :(
Anyways, I have the raws for 207-218 in HD, mainly because I have no use for the DVDs after the new episodes.
Behold my amazing lurking powers! Or not… Dunno how UNKNOWNFILE would feel about it though, and I don't feel like putting words in his mouth.
I don't think avex mode has released anything in HD, except maybe something for Major, but I doubt it's an HD release (couldn't read it) http://avexmode.jp/animation/major/dvd.html
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http://avexmode.jp/animation/onepiece/special.html
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Casusby: Thanks for the tip. ^_^ I left UNKNOWNFILE a message, and I hope he'll agree to share his raws with us.
EGX: That only says 16:9 :( I think it's going to be standard DVD widescreen resolution.
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One can always have false hope to make things seem positive… >_>
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well, 261 + is availible in True HD, I know im Dling 267 right now.
Im thinking if those are availible, it's POSSIBLE the Rest is too. if it is that means finding it is the problem.
I just hope Toei Releases the HD eps on DVDI was the one who uploaded those raws. :ninja:
Sad to say though, the guy (in winny) where I got the HQ raws has only ep 261+ in real hdtv. :sad:OP261-266 HQ-HDTV
Torrent: http://datorrents.com/download.asp?id=10836&name=One%20Piece%20Ep%20261-266%20HDTV%20%281280x720%20resolution%29.torrentOP266 HQ-HDTV DDL : http://rorikon.org/One%20Piece%20266%20%5bD-CX%201280x720%20WMV9%2024fps%5d.avi
OP267 HQ-HDTV DDL : http://rorikon.org/One%20Piece%20267%20%5bD-CX%201280x720%20WMV9%2024fps%5d.avi
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Aye, no one seems to have them before 161.
UNKNOWNFILE's raws were unfortunately also the widescreen resolution and not HDTV :( I guess the search continues. -
So…the DVD versions are gonna be of a higher quality than any of the raws until 261 is what you're saying? And you'll use whatever has the highest quality?
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I remember dythim saying before that, yes the image quality will be better on the DVD rips, but there's still the problem of Resolution. the Widescreen Eps were made with Viually more in the frame, and to make the Fullscreen eps they Chopped the sides off the Widescreen eps and blew up the image. meaning theres gonna be a little picture missing
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Do they play reruns in HD? (Do they even have reruns?) That's where I would say to get them. But I'm thinking Toei should release episodes in Blu-Ray format for widescreen. Higher quality.
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They do air re-runs, but not in the same time slot. I don't know if the encoder who captures the HDTV raws is willing or able to do those even. I am… hoping that Toei is waiting to see which format they want to release in, HDDVD or Bluray, and that this silly tactic is only to make sure there is demand when they do release them. :/
Just wish they'd hurry the hell up...
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It will be sad if they do. Because like betamax, Blu-Ray is higher quality. (1080p on release as contrast to HD-DVD's 720p.) But at first, Blu-Ray will be more expensive… It's really quite saddening. I'm hoping the PS3 will provide the nessisary competition though.
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PS3… is probably the console I've heard the worst things about. :/ Horribly hacked "support" for PS2 games, severe under performance, and of course costing more than the other two next-gen consoles combined. Things don't look good >_> but who knows.
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PS3… is probably the console I've heard the worst things about. :/ Horribly hacked "support" for PS2 games, severe under performance, and of course costing more than the other two next-gen consoles combined. Things don't look good >_> but who knows.
Well even I have heard a lot of bad things about Sony and being a fanboy of Sony (specifically of PS and PS2) I and others too are a little disappointed in them because of the new controller but lets see what happens when the console actually comes out.
:blink:the is really going off the topic don't you think:blink:
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Well, this is just my preference, but I'd rather see the stuff that gets cut off from either side of the screen, then have a slightly higher resolution. So I guess I'd rather widescreen raws than DVD rips.
Of course if they're released in widescreen later I suppose you could always just do a second version.
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Sad how there are so many people who can't tell a HD video from their arse, don't you agree dythim?
And just because it is blu-ray or HD-DVD doesn't mean they will release the mofo at a higher resolution. I don't think pixels matter that much for One Piece because it is drawn pretty simply after all and you won't lose much if any detail. Just turn on an anti-aliasing filter or something and blow the image up if you reall want to watch it on your 30" apple cinema thingamajig that costs $$$$$.
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It does look awkward on the DVDs, you can tell that the image has parts missing. It just feels… off x_x.
silver, yeah in theory they don't have to release at a higher res on blu-ray/hd-dvd, but I think they would. It's already animated at that res, so they'd have to go through the trouble of shrinking it to dvd resolutions. And yeah, for One Piece, and I think anime and possibly digital video in general, the pixels lost to resizing don't matter a whole lot. It's just something I have to tell people who think that widescreen is higher quality.
Right now I'm toying with the idea of doing dual releases of fullscreen and
widescreen episodes. This unfortunately means twice as much work for timers and encoders, but it might be the way to keep the most people happy. Our DVD rips will beat the pants off any TV raws, and that really is the highest quality option available to us. But, I believe that there is a large group of people who would be put out by the missing animation, so that's more or less how I arrived at this option. If we go through with that plan, then in the event that Toei does release HD resolution dvds, we can go back and re-release those eps as single versions, and it will all be a bad memory. Nothing is set in stone, but that's my thinking. -
Right now I'm toying with the idea of doing dual releases of fullscreen and widescreen episodes. This unfortunately means twice as much work for timers and encoders, but it might be the way to keep the most people happy. Our DVD rips will beat the pants off any TV raws, and that really is the highest quality option available to us. But, I believe that there is a large group of people who would be put out by the missing animation, so that's more or less how I arrived at this option. If we go through with that plan, then in the event that Toei does release HD resolution dvds, we can go back and re-release those eps as single versions, and it will all be a bad memory. Nothing is set in stone, but that's my thinking.
I like everything you said there. Make it so!
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You could also set up a poll or a forum topic on the K-F website comparing pics of the FS v WS versions, thus allowing for the users to see if they like one or the other type more. If there's a huge split between people, then releasing FS and WS might be your option, but if majority(80%+) tend to like one side then maybe just stick to that. Just an idea…
Personally I'd just stick with the DVD's you have due to the much cleaner source, then by the time the BD/HD-DVD's come out, release V2s. This allows for everyone to have an insentive to dl those.
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Right now I'm toying with the idea of doing dual releases of fullscreen and
widescreen episodes. This unfortunately means twice as much work for timers and encoders, but it might be the way to keep the most people happy. Our DVD rips will beat the pants off any TV raws, and that really is the highest quality option available to us. But, I believe that there is a large group of people who would be put out by the missing animation, so that's more or less how I arrived at this option. If we go through with that plan, then in the event that Toei does release HD resolution dvds, we can go back and re-release those eps as single versions, and it will all be a bad memory. Nothing is set in stone, but that's my thinking.To be honest, if you would do that because you aim to please everyone instead of it being a quality matter then I would suggest you rather chose doing the one which you prefer instead of having to bother with doing twice the work.
I think I´ve expressed my thoughts quite often enough why I prefer fullscreen over widescreen and that I´m really hoping to get your releases in fullscreen. HOWEVER even if you would release the episodes in widescreen only I would still be picking them up and enjoying them. Of course a little bit of disappointment would be left there but that will have to be my personal problem and not something you guys should bother about. You can´t always please everyone and even if it means that I won´t get that what I´m hoping to see I suggest you just chose one of them. A true fan sticks with whatever you give us. ;)