Aw, don't you want to vote for yourself, Elisa?
One Piece Mafia: Part II
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Haha. Seems like everyone is doing it so… :)
Anyway, what do you think about that by the way ? Harvy quickly following, and then Shuhan (and me, if you wish), what do you read in that.
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I read that it is a pretty heroic thing to do, sacrificing yourself. Don't you want to die for the team?
And to answer your question more adequately, I think Harvy knows what he's doing. About Shuhan, I'm not sure if he's just following or if he means it.
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I still think getting the Mafia first would be the very best option. Also, more than dying for the team, if this setup gives me death wishes it would be so that I get the mafia with my own hands. Don't you think ?
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@Elisabeth:
I still think getting the Mafia first would be the very best option. Also, more than dying for the team, if this setup gives me death wishes it would be so that I get the mafia with my own hands. Don't you think ?
'Getting' the Mafia in what sense?
Yes, and wouldn't you be doing that for the team?
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(getting mafia, means killing mafia)
No, if I got the mafia with my own hands, it would be mostly for my own satisfaction.
On the other side, a lynch on mafia would be the result of teamplay.Who would you rather lynch ? For what reason ?
(are we alone ?)
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Ah, okay.
So, if you want to find the Mafia by teamplay, you mean scumhunting? How would you like to go about that?
I would rather lynch… you! Would that bother you?
(I think so... go GMT+1!)
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I just suggest we talk, like we do ;)
And, that doesn't really bother me, no.
If you were to rank from more mafish to more townish your list would look like : Elisa / Shuhan / Harvy ?–- Update From New Post Merge ---
Shuhan~
I saw you lurking. Could you come an talk ? I'd like to see your list too. -
[Elisa / Shuhan / Harvy] Is that how you perceive Mrs. Iceburg's suspects, Elisabeth? If we're on the subject, I'd like you to hypothesize how I would rank the three of you in terms of suspicion.
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Mh. Hard to do since you didn't talk as much. You did offer to lunch Shuhan first though, but I'm not sure why.
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Elisabeth, do you feel threatened?
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Nope .
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@Elisabeth:
Mh. Hard to do since you didn't talk as much. You did offer to lunch Shuhan first though, but I'm not sure why.
Also, why did you offer yourself as a sacrifice ?First off, since I did suggest lynching Shuhan, I wanted to see how you would have incorporated that information in your answer. Had you put Shuhan anywhere other than the top of the list, I would have assumed that you were taking other factors into account, and that would provide me with more insight. But you didn't give me a list. Suspicious.
Secondly, I realized what Mrs. Iceburg could be up to by voting herself. Concerned, I followed suit to create a kind of status-quo, and to gauge reactions. Truthfully, I have absolutely no intention of getting myself lynched.
Unvote
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If I had made said list… I still wouldn't have known were to put Shuhan. Surely you said you wanted him lynched, but he hadn't talk enough for me to gauge his level of suspiciousness so how could you. In the end, even though I tried to think from your point of view, I couldn't decide. Why Shuhan. If he was mafia, score. If he wasn't, who would he take revenge on then. Someone random ? 25% chance winning. You ? Too many possibilities.
Now, I don't know what to make of your post. Why don't you make the list ? Or did you just want me to make one for you ? :)
And now, Shuhan, really, participate, I'm truthfully tired of the lack of activity during these games, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. If you are doing this as a way to conceal your mafiaism, I just concider it as cheating. If you are town, you are ruining the game for the other participants.
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The point of having you make the list Elisabeth, is the same as having you answer any other question. Your answer provides me with perspective. By not answering/cooperating, I have nothing to work with. It's no different than being a lurker, save that you project the illusion of activity.
Shuhan is bad. Gar. He copied me who copied Mrs. Iceburg. That same Mrs. Iceburg took a risk with her gambit, as she drew attention to herself as well as opened herself up to being voted. Initiative. Elisabeth Heart is tricky. Speaks most often, but has yet to put down a vote, continues to renege. Manipulative.
Vote Lynch: Shuhan
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Mah~ I don't care anymore.
I'd vote Shuhan to get this over with, but that would be the hammer so…
My list. Harvy / Shuhan / Mrs Iceburg. -
This game is night-less, for Town's sake. Vote Count: With four alive it takes three to lynch. Shuhan [2]: Shuhan**,** Harvady Alumnus
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Boogie isn't answering my questions either. disheartened
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What happens to a Heart when it is disheartened? D:
@Harvady:Truthfully, I have absolutely no intention of getting myself lynched.
Why? What problem do you see in getting lynched?
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I don't have a problem with getting lynched. However, I will not actively choose or contribute towards that outcome.
The goal is to eliminate the mafia, by lynching or by shooting. I wouldn't mind having the decision to fire, but for me to vote myself means that I am knowingly throwing away the lynch. Ideally, I want to lynch one suspect of mine, and have a different suspect shot. Any resources spent on me are a waste. (From my perspective, anyway.)
Shuhan is still my number one. Elisabeth Heart is a close second.
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pure and total emptiness…
Okay. I'm bored now. A 4 players game with 3 players actually playing… Thing is, Shuhan is USUALLY active even when mafia. I think. But that's meta so I don't know if I should take it into account. I said to myself I wouldn't be fooled by mafia lurkers anymore again though... so I don't know. Rah this is annoying.
Harvy, if you want to lynch me instead, I'm fine with it.
Or... I'll just hammer Shuhan. sighs
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@Elisabeth:
Harvy, if you want to lynch me instead, I'm fine with it.
Well, do you agree with what I was talking about earlier. That it is one thing to be lynched, and another thing to push towards lynching yourself?
What comes as odd is that this foursome is supposed to end with all other players deciding on who to lynch. This situation is unique because the accused voted himself. Either you or Mrs. Iceburg could have hammered already.
Do you honestly think Shuhan is our guy? Regardless of whether or not you want to wagon, who is the mafia in your mind?
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50-50 ?
I believe it's either him or you. -
Guh I'm sorry guys, being this inactive was never my intention.
Between BB and my busy IRL, I'm gonna concede…. just vote me and we'll be done with this.
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Wow, that sucks.
What do we do, hammer him? I'm not too sure yet, I suspect Harvy just as much.
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How about this: we lynch Harvady, and if he's Town, he takes Shuhan with him.
All in favour?
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Why question it Iceburg? There is no room for error…what are you afraid of? I'm giving you me on a silver platter, why hesitate?
Do you have something to hide, or are you afraid that you've been found?
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What?
Room for error? Silver platter? I thought you just stepped out of the game :/ -
I almost forgot about the game going.
I'll just hammer, it's been going for long enough.Ah… but if Shuhan isn't around and isn't mafia, he won't be there to perform the revenge kill.
Beh...I'm okay with lynching Harvy too.
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Can I hear some reasons for all this suspicion on me? Or is this a foregone conclusion?
Mrs. Iceburg, I've been talking. How is it that two people are intent on voting me without addressing any of the things I've done and said? Also, you said you suspect me as much as you do Shuhan, even though he and I are opposites in regards to how we've been playing. How does that work? Where does Elisabeth Heart fit?
Elisabeth Heart, you said it's 50-50 between Shuhan and me. Why don't you suspect Mrs. Iceburg? You said you're fine with being lynched and you said you're fine with lynching me…you can't do both. Your indecisiveness is highly obstructing. You haven't taken any steps to accomplish either. Are you waiting for something?
Shuhan, you're sending signals in all directions. You can't 'concede' as town. It would mean that you're forfeiting for three players, not just yourself. I assume that means you're mafia. So why did you turn around and accuse Mrs. Iceburg? That entirely defeats the purpose of conceding.
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For me… I guess... instinct ?
Well... yeah. I'm sorry I'm so indecisive. I would very much like to kill/lynch you. But I just don't know what solution to pick to do so. Since I'm not completely sure it's you (the mafia), I'd rather play it safe and have both Shuhan and you killed.
I guess I can't really have both. I can't ask Shuhan to shoot you because it's his revenge, and same for lynching you and asking you to forgive my mistake (if it is indeed a mistake) and shoot Shuhan. -
I don't suspect Elisabeth as much because she seems confused about the setup, and she doesn't come off as careful or calculated. That makes me think she's Town.
So why do I suspect both Harvady and Shuhan equally? Primarily it's a matter of lack of trust.
Shuhan has said and done too little to be able to have a read on him, and he's been acting sheepish (like in voting for himself after Harvy and I did so).
Harvady, you've said a lot, yes, but that doesn't mean anything. You understand the setup very well and use this fact to make logical and senseful posts, but you could do so both as Mafia and as Town. So you're not at all cleared in my opinion. Plus, you seem like you really don't want to get lynched, which makes me think you're Mafia.Also, if you suspect Shuhan the most, then what is your problem with getting lynched? It'd just guarantee your chance of killing him.
Who would you want Shuhan to off in case he flips Town?Unvote
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Vote Count: With four alive it takes three to lynch. Shuhan [2]: Shuhan**,** Harvady Alumnus Not Voting [2]: Elisabeth Heart**, Mrs. Iceburg**
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@Mrs.:
Plus, you seem like you really don't want to get lynched, which makes me think you're Mafia.
As I said earlier:@Harvady:
I don't have a problem with getting lynched. However, I will not actively choose or contribute towards that outcome.
I wanted you to look at what I've said. You did that. You came to the conclusion that I'm mafia. Okay. If the three of you bind together, you can lynch me no problem.
Do you really need me on board for that? Aside from being kind of macabre, it doesn't make sense for me to lynch myself regardless of my alignment.
@Mrs.:
Who would you want Shuhan to off in case he flips Town?
Elisabeth Heart.
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If you really wanna think about it, Harvady was the first to unvote himself…he can hide behind all the words he's got, he's afraid of getting lynched.
lynch me and I'll take care of him if you don't want to lynch him, Im all for it.
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Thanks Shuhan. I'll seal the deal then.
Vote Lynch : Shuhan.
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No my plan fell apart!!
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Vote Count: With four alive it takes three to lynch. Shuhan [[COLOR=#ff0000]3]: Shuhan**,** Harvady Alumnus**, Elisabeth Heart** Not Voting: Mrs. Iceburg
Shuhan has been lynched. He was the Mafia Goon.
The Mafia has been eliminated. Game Over- Town Wins.
All Personal Messages:
! Elisabeth: Vengeful Townie with nothing to lose
Harvady: Vengeful Townie with nothing to lose
Iceburg: Vengeful Townie with nothing to lose
Shuhan: Goon
! That's just what the Shell said, I didn't say that. Still, the fates have spoken. You're the Mafia.
! Good luck, man.
Thus concludes Vengeful Townie Showdown. Congratulations to Mrs. Iceburg, Harvady Alumnus and Elisabeth Heart for their Town victory. Special thanks to all for playing. -
Poor wall.
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Sorry Bogart, I goofed…
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Yaaay. See y'all next time.
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Thanks Bogart.
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Actually, isn't the limit on the topic 10 000 posts? If so, shouldn't another topic be made?
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It's not a strict limit, but you have a point. I could make a new thread with the official queue list in it if everyone thinks it's okay.
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Previous thread was 1000 pages.
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I think that's because Robby pulled together all the threads in one go, though.
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All the threads got pulled into one at some halfway point of that thread, then we just kept on going untill 1000 pages.
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So then what do we do about it?
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We have ourselves a good old spamfest, that's what!
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Sounds like a good idea to me :3