Robin is a senseless idiot who couldn't see the potential of Big Emperor strategy.
Chapter 600: "The Island of Restarting" Discussion
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@Monkey:
Vegeta was my favorite DBZ character because he was flawed. All those goody goody like Gohan, Goku, are soo boring. I'll take characters like Vegeta, Krillin, and Mr. Satan all the time.
Lol, Kuririn. It's often hard to remember that he was actually the strongest normal human in history.
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I think one of the Warlord is a supernova, probably Kidd
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I think one of the Warlord is a supernova, probably Kidd
maybe for sure…
and buggy as well lolz
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@Mad:
Chopper was 15 when he first showed up, so he is 17 now.
Two human years aren`t equal to two reindeer years.
Means in two years for a human he actually could now be older then 17.
My guess would be around 19, but to prove that we would need to know how old he was when he met Dr. Hiriluk. -
Fake strawhats = Bon Clay Mr.2 aka Bon-chan's crew and they're hella mad cuz They heard from prisoners that Bon clay saved Luffy and they left him behind
Lmao, thats what ya'all should call A STONED comment lol
kiddin but who knows anyway, I hope that Only zorro and or Franky sends the fakes fly away with ashura and/or a very developped form of COUP-DE-VENT, either way, they'll be revealed n beaten by the two brothers caribo and/or pacifistas & sentoumaru
cheers ~
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@Don:
Two human years aren`t equal to two reindeer years.
Means in two years for a human he actually could now be older then 17.
My guess would be around 19, but to prove that we would need to know how old he was when he met Dr. Hiriluk.I think its a safe assumption that Chopper's age is measured in human years. If you want to apply reindeer years to everything regarding Chopper, then the 2 years he spent training would've been only like…a few months?
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Lol, Kuririn. It's often hard to remember that he was actually the strongest normal human in history.
Isnt that just a myth? Im sure Tien was stronger and if Yamcha didnt stop training he would still be stronger.
I know Kuririn got the power up from the elder in Namek but still…
If chopper age is calculated in human years, Lucci is in Leopard years, Juabura in Wolf years, etc.
Dont put much tough into it guys, hes 16/17 ignore the human/reindeer stuff.
Plus Sage why did you give the dood any hope, he didnt even get you were joking...
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According to One Piece wikia he was 15 when he debut and is 17 after timeskip in human years.
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I think its a safe assumption that Chopper's age is measured in human years. If you want to apply reindeer years to everything regarding Chopper, then the 2 years he spent training would've been only like…a few months?
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t rly matter. But when he will die sooner(because of being a reindeer), it
s likely that one human year is more about 2 reindeer years for him.
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According to One Piece wikia he was 15 when he debut and is 17 after timeskip in human years.
Who cares about what wiki says?
Who know if that is written by AGOG. -
Isnt that just a myth? Im sure Tien was stronger and if Yamcha didnt stop training he would still be stronger.
I know Kuririn got the power up from the elder in Namek but still…
Tenshinhan achieved enlightenment… or something. Anyway, the info could've been wrong, but I read something once about Toriyama not considering Tien a "normal human", whereas despite not having a nose, Kuririn was.... But yeah, if Yamucha had never slacked off, he would've surpassed Kuririn again (but that didn't happen, so...).
I think its a safe assumption that Chopper's age is measured in human years. If you want to apply reindeer years to everything regarding Chopper, then the 2 years he spent training would've been only like…a few months?
You did your math backwards, idiot. If it were in reindeer years, then the 2 years spent training would've been equivalent to a bit over 10 years.
According to One Piece wikia he was 15 when he debut and is 17 after timeskip in human years.
One Piece wiki is full of bullshit information and idiotic conjectures by the people that edit it. Greg may believe that Chopper was 15 specifically in human years, but he would at least back me up on the fact that the One Piece wiki having it on there does NOT make it reliable, at ALL.
Yeah, I'd really like Oda to clarify whether Chopper was previously 15 in human years or reindeer years. It's never felt relevant before.
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I want to see the reactions of everyone they know, like after Enies Lobby. Depending on how many of them believed that they were dead though, but still, it's 2 years.
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@DEE:
Fake strawhats = Bon Clay Mr.2 aka Bon-chan's crew and they're hella mad cuz They heard from prisoners that Bon clay saved Luffy and they left him behind
Lmao, thats what ya'all should call A STONED comment lol
kiddin but who knows anyway, I hope that Only zorro and or Franky sends the fakes fly away with ashura and/or a very developped form of COUP-DE-VENT, either way, they'll be revealed n beaten by the two brothers caribo and/or pacifistas & sentoumaru
cheers ~
Zoro using Ashura would be overkill for that level of foe. He's not Lina Inverse, just dropping a top teir attack on anyone that just happens to be annoying.
However, I could maybe see this if Oda decides to have comic relief and have Zoro and Sanji get a good look at their Fakes. Sanji laid out a beat down when he was face to face with an exact living replica of his crappy wanted poster. I would be fairly sure he'd flip out on his Fake here.
Also I'm fairly sure it was even mentioned in the show that Krillin is the strongest human.
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There is no such thing as Reindeer years people. Years is based on the earths rotation around the sun. All this Reindeer hoopla is all a relative scaling of age averages of reindeer's and humans. To say a dog is 7 so thats 49 in human years does not make that dog 49 years old. He is 7 years old. The 49 is to give people an idea of what period said animal is going through within their own personal life cycle. He is Still only 7 years old.
With that said chopper is 15 in Sun Years not Reindeer or "human" years. And so 2 Sun years later makes him 17. Whether his actual life span is that of human or reindeer is a moot point.
Sometimes the lack of raw intellect on the internet shocks me.
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thanks professor mingo.
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thanks professor mingo.
Have you seen my pipe? I thought i left it in my other night robe.
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I think you left it in the "stuff everyone already knows" lecture hall.
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I think you left it in the "stuff everyone already knows" lecture hall.
Ah Dark. You do not constitute "everyone" unless of course your perceived world lacks any existence but your own. Then yes. Every does already know this. Otherwise I feel compelled to at least apply some sound reason within this scattered mess of pointless debating.
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The topic was fairly pointless for the scope of this series.
But I didn't see anyone not understand the difference.
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There is no such thing as Reindeer years people. Years is based on the earths rotation around the sun. All this Reindeer hoopla is all a relative scaling of age averages of reindeer's and humans. To say a dog is 7 so thats 49 in human years does not make that dog 49 years old. He is 7 years old. The 49 is to give people an idea of what period said animal is going through within their own personal life cycle. He is Still only 7 years old.
With that said chopper is 15 in Sun Years not Reindeer or "human" years. And so 2 Sun years later makes him 17. Whether his actual life span is that of human or reindeer is a moot point.
Sometimes the lack of raw intellect on the internet shocks me.
What an intellectual individual.
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There is no such thing as Reindeer years people. Years is based on the earths rotation around the sun. All this Reindeer hoopla is all a relative scaling of age averages of reindeer's and humans. To say a dog is 7 so thats 49 in human years does not make that dog 49 years old. He is 7 years old. The 49 is to give people an idea of what period said animal is going through within their own personal life cycle. He is Still only 7 years old.
With that said chopper is 15 in Sun Years not Reindeer or "human" years. And so 2 Sun years later makes him 17. The lack of raw intellect on the internet shocks me sometimes.
It's not a raw lack of intelligence. We know that it's a scaling number based on the species maturation rate and life expectancy. It's just what it's labeled as. I believe we were just speculating if Chopper at the start of the manga is 15 years old if he was maturing at a human rate or reindeer, mentally and or physically how old would he be considered to be after the time skip and how that would effect his appearance in his other forms. Of course if he's been on the planet 17 years, he's technically 17.
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The debate may have been trying to determine the rate of growth physically and mentally of chopper but there was a lot of back and forth regarding the actual numerical amount of choppers age and weather it was counted in "reindeer years" or "human years" which i was clarifying as an irrelevant matter to argue towards.
Regarding his rate of mental maturity we can say that Oda has decided to retain most of Choppers original mentality because of the running gag of his naive ignorance. As for physical growth he has apprently gone through a growth spurt from the age of 15 - 17. If you do a quick google you can see that Reindeers in the wild have a life span of 10 years in the wild. His life span has already gone far past that of a natural Deer and the fact that his growth spurt has occurred during human puberty is enough to claim that Choppers growth leans towards more of a Human Life Cycle.
Also the fact that Oda writes Chopper to place a higher priority on his devil fruit given humanity over his Reindeer heritage is enough to say that Oda plans for chopper to lean towards a more Human like existance. (As least as close a Human-Reindeer can).
And yet this is still just a manga. And it is how Oda deems it which can and can not be at all relevant to the laws of our reality.
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However, I could maybe see this if Oda decides to have comic relief and have Zoro and Sanji get a good look at their Fakes. Sanji laid out a beat down when he was face to face with an exact living replica of his crappy wanted poster. I would be fairly sure he'd flip out on his Fake here.
Lol I really want to see what Sanji says about Zoro's fake, lol the Sanji fake isn't as way off as the zoro fake. I can see a fight between sanji and zoro each of them saying that the other's fake looks a lot like the real thing LOL
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MINGO: Oda has stated that Chopper was 15.
However, just as we label "dog years" as approximately 1/7 of a human year, if we take the maximum age of a reindeer as an analog, then it could be broken down to mean that "reindeer years" would be a similar quantity.
Therefore, despite Oda saying his age outright, it was not made clear that Oda did not mean "he is the maturity equivalent of a 15 year old human." I admit, as stated a few times before, that it is ALMOST DEFINITE that he ages in human years, and as Sea pointed out, this basically applies to all important animals in the entire series.
However, your post in which you explained the basis for the time frame known as years made you look like both an idiot AND a dick, so good job there.
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There is no such thing as Reindeer years people. Years is based on the earths rotation around the sun. All this Reindeer hoopla is all a relative scaling of age averages of reindeer's and humans. To say a dog is 7 so thats 49 in human years does not make that dog 49 years old. He is 7 years old. The 49 is to give people an idea of what period said animal is going through within their own personal life cycle. He is Still only 7 years old.
With that said chopper is 15 in Sun Years not Reindeer or "human" years. And so 2 Sun years later makes him 17. Whether his actual life span is that of human or reindeer is a moot point.
Sometimes the lack of raw intellect on the internet shocks me.
We are talking in the figurative way, we know a dog with 14 years and a human with 14 years have the same age, the lifespan is just diferent and the age is calculated just like a percentage if you would like to put it that way.
OFC everyone talking about this knows that and once again just like in the pandaman subject you are just embarassing yourself /clap.
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One of the two brothers probably is a logia.
As for Chopper you should not be talking about Reindeer years but life expectancy, and I believe his life will be as long as a human's since he has eaten the hito hito no mi.
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The new bounty for Sanji will have the Fake Sanji's face.
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@Sea:
The new bounty for Sanji will have the Fake Sanji's face.
I think that would be overdoing it >.<
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OFC everyone talking about this knows that and once again just like in the pandaman subject you are just embarassing yourself /clap.
That'd only be true if I actually felt embarrassed. In this case however a large crowd of sarcasm doesn't automatically equate embarrassment.
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@Sea:
The new bounty for Sanji will have the Fake Sanji's face.
All the Strawhats' new posters will feature the Fakehats pictures, except for Sanji.
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Well, Oda said Chopper was 15 in human years, so we can't be sure if by human years he meant solar years or the part of his live he would be in if he was a human (which he is)…
So while is appearance its that of a 15 years old in its human form it is unknown whether he lived 15 years or not (I'm unaware of reindeer's life span..). -
~Brain Battle Bonanza~
Hilarious how there is a heated discussion about Choppers age and growth…and I am surprised to find that people (Intellectually Challenged or Not) are not finding it even remotely stupid....
It's not so much the lack of Raw Intellect more than it is the lack of Wisdom and Common Sense.
If we are going to get into a discussion about the depths of Reindeer aging compared to that of humans…then we might as well start talking about where Chopper takes a piss, Nami and Robins periods, where Sanji stores and buys his cigarettes, and the proper mating procedures for a Fishman...etc...sigh
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@gotta<3OP:
Well, Oda said Chopper was 15 in human years, so we can't be sure if by human years he meant solar years or the part of his live he would be in if he was a human (which he is)…
So while is appearance its that of a 15 years old in its human form it is unknown whether he lived 15 years or not (I'm unaware of reindeer's life span..).the average is 10 years but they can live up to about 20.
I believe I mentioned how this is all a manga and that it's all decided by Oda despite how our own reality is. So yes I was pointing out how irrelevant it is to argue it at all. However i felt i should at least generously contribute rather then just negatively state how people spend their free time is utterly hopeless and pointless.
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I would like to have an in-depth discussion on the growth of Nami's breasts because I believe they most definitely grow in something else beside human years.
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@Monkey:
I would like to have an in-depth discussion on the growth of Nami's breasts because I believe they most grow in something else beside human DIMENSIONS.
Something like that.
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Doesn't Hurt To Try…Does it?
I believe I mentioned how this is all a manga and that it's all decided by Oda despite how our own reality is. So yes I was pointing out how irrelevant it is to argue it at all. However i felt i should at least generously contribute rather then just negatively state how people spend their free time is utterly hopeless and pointless.
Indeed. Sometimes it's hard to NOT post…even if it is the stupidest thing ever.
One thing I have noticed through lifes experiences is that throwing knowledge/facts/wisdom/truth/reality into utterly hopeless and pointless topics will most likely result in an uneducated, moronic, utterly foolish, hopeless and pointless half-truth-to-lie response that is staunchly presented as fact and reality.....which usually is great comedy for those who have a brain....and usually "flaming disrespect" to the rest who don't.
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Doesn't Hurt To Try…Does it?
Indeed. Sometimes it's hard to NOT post…even if it is the stupidest thing ever.
One thing I have noticed through lifes experiences is that throwing knowledge/facts/wisdom/truth/reality into utterly hopeless and pointless topics will most likely result in an uneducated, moronic, utterly foolish, hopeless and pointless half-truth-to-lie response that is staunchly presented as fact and reality.....which usually is great comedy for those who have a brain....and usually "flaming disrespect" to the rest who don't.
And yet here you are placing yourself within the cycle you are so negatively responding to.
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Downtime Entertainment
And yet here you are placing yourself within the cycle you are so negatively responding to.
usually is great comedy for those who have a brain….and usually "flaming disrespect" to the rest who don't.
^^ Oh and for those taking it as "flaming disrespect"…thank you! Thank you for making it even more comical!!!!
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That'd only be true if I actually felt embarrassed. In this case however a large crowd of sarcasm doesn't automatically equate embarrassment.
Its not sarcasm you actually said something calling people stupid, when everyone who was talking about the subject clealry knows the BS you said since its common sense, good for you if you dont feel embarassed.
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the average is 10 years but they can live up to about 20.
NO REINDEER HAS EVER LIVED PAST THE AGE OF SIXTEEN. I STATED THIS EARLIER IN THE TOPIC.
That's also why I became amused enough to start talking about Chopper's age anyway, because he broke the world record, presumably.
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NO REINDEER HAS EVER LIVED PAST THE AGE OF SIXTEEN. I STATED THIS EARLIER IN THE TOPIC.
That's also why I became amused enough to start talking about Chopper's age anyway, because he broke the world record, presumably.
So maybe Chopper will die at the end
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Its not sarcasm you actually said something calling people stupid, when everyone who was talking about the subject clealry knows the BS you said since its common sense, good for you if you dont feel embarassed.
And yet its funny how the greater bulk of your guys' debate was throwing around the argument of 15 representing "human years" and "reindeer years" - as well as the validity of the source of his numerical age - while never really touching on Choppers actual growth and how it falls into either life cycle. Let alone coming to a conclusive solution.
But this out lash has nothing to do with the actual argument but its all due to a key statement where I questioned the intellect of the community because of the lack of diction that shows a clear understanding of the concept of "human/Reindeer" years.
NO REINDEER HAS EVER LIVED PAST THE AGE OF SIXTEEN. I STATED THIS EARLIER IN THE TOPIC.
That's also why I became amused enough to start talking about Chopper's age anyway, because he broke the world record, presumably.
Then one of the pages I skimmed for the information through google has misleadnig information since they claimed up to 20 years. But the general average of 10 seems to be the consensus.
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Pointless topic continues.
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NO REINDEER HAS EVER LIVED PAST THE AGE OF SIXTEEN. I STATED THIS EARLIER IN THE TOPIC.
That's also why I became amused enough to start talking about Chopper's age anyway, because he broke the world record, presumably.
Has everyone forgotten that chopper ate the Hito Hito no Mi (human fruit). He probably has the same life expectancy as a human now, or at least half the human life expectancy (40 years maybe?)
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mingo where's that list of errors on greg's site
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Actually I believe Oda stated HUMAN YEARS, instead of simply years because he has something in mind…
Maybe chopper its going to die in the end of the manga from "old age" or something like that, and the people who are calling this discussion pointless, or even stupid will eat their own words!For me its as interesting as discussing whether Luffy will defeat Sentoumaru or not with the exception that this while minimum has some facts while Luffy defeating Sentoumaru its pure fan prediction...
Just because One Piece is a Shounen doesn't mean we can't discuss the biology of the world, actually its kind of interesting... I'd love to get my hands in that Encyclopedia like book that Nami was reading in Little Garden :D.
Edit: And the fruits don't alter life span, other wise Kaku would only live up to 20-25 years, and Jyabura would most likely be dead as soon as he ate the AnM...
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Do anyone forgot this is a freaking manga?
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Do anyone forgot this is a freaking manga?
Mentioned it twice. But they insist on carrying on.