Chapter 599, "9 Pirates" Discussion

5_Of_Spades

Question, did Zoro literally say angel of fate? I thought his influences are more eastern than western, what's with the Asura and Phoenix and Earthly Desires and all.

Rubber Fist Luffy

@Darkestsith6:

If Sentomaru is supposed to be Vegapunk's bodyguard, I'd hope he doesn't go down directly right now. The supposed genius of the world should have a beastly bodyguard

When did they say that Sentomaru is his bodyguard?

dillypark

With the whole scar on Zoro's eye, Oda might be trying to make a comparison between the Strawhats and the Roger pirates.
Luffy and Roger are both captains, Zoro and Rayleigh are both first mates.

Just an interesting thought on his scar.

Unluck

@Rubber:

When did they say that Sentomaru is his bodyguard?

http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-511/page006.html

In the Oda box. I'm going by this translation. If there is some other trans that is different… :/

Rubber Fist Luffy

@dillypark:

With the whole scar on Zoro's eye, Oda might be trying to make a comparison between the Strawhats and the Roger pirates.
Luffy and Roger are both captains, Zoro and Rayleigh are both first mates.

Just an interesting thought on his scar.

Zoro didn't only get a scar, he lost his eye, and it wasn't the same eye either.

@Unluck:

http://read.mangashare.com/One-Piece/chapter-511/page006.html

In the Oda box. I'm going by this translation. If there is some other trans that is different… :/

Oh totally forgot about that, thanks.
I agree with you, he has to be strong, but not strong enough to defeat luffy again.

Now that you've brought this up, I wonder what he was doing in SA :blink:

Darkestsith6

So who else thinks Smoker has no shot against Luffy anymore? Luffy will just wreck him when he pounds him down with his haki giant jet storm. =D

WarshipArc

@5_Of_Spades:

Question, did Zoro literally say angel of fate? I thought his influences are more eastern than western, what's with the Asura and Phoenix and Earthly Desires and all.

Training under Mihawk could have infused him with a little western influence.

sirplayalot11

Did nobody read page 11?
Seriously?

! ****"****Ahh, Brook's thing. Yeah I knew because TD's(<what is="" that?)="" been="" all="" over="" the="" place.="" he's="" shining="" right="" now!!="" from="" dark,="" silent,="" fog="" filled="" sea.="" he="" climbed="" up="" to="" a="" bright="" stage="" of="" never="" ending="" cheers!<br="">Who knows…he may not...even come back...to the pirate life..."</what>

ElementNick

@sirplayalot11:

Did nobody read page 11?
Seriously?

! http://static3.mangastream.com/manga/5/40324560/op_11.png ****"****Ahh, Brook's thing. Yeah I knew because TD's(<what is="" that?)="" been="" all="" over="" the="" place.="" he's="" shining="" right="" now!!="" from="" dark,="" silent,="" fog="" filled="" sea.="" he="" climbed="" up="" to="" a="" bright="" stage="" of="" never="" ending="" cheers!<br="">Who knows…he may not...even come back...to the pirate life..."</what>

Yea we all did, but no one thinks he is going to walk away from the pirate life

Zarnikon

@Tep:

I don't think Luffy is quite at the level to take on an admiral. That's pretty silly.
….

Crocodile
Enel
Moria
Bluno
Lucci

So what can we say, Luffy is really fast with his gears second and also strong. He has defeated all the guys above and has fought vice admirals. And he was 17/18. I would rank him as a low Vice Admiral there.
Now 2 years later, he has grown a lot stronger. He is 2 years older so he should be more manly and be physically stronger. With all the training he mostlikely also got a lot faster and he now can use all sorts of Haki.
He is atleast at the level of a High Vice Admiral and strong enough to hold out against an Admiral (not defeat but atleast hold out long enough to make a run for it)

Retsudo

@Darkestsith6:

So who else thinks Smoker has no shot against Luffy anymore? Luffy will just wreck him when he pounds him down with his haki giant jet storm. =D

Smoker is Luffy's answer to Garp.

He'll stay as someone who can compete with Luffy (at least) for the rest of the comic.

Rubber Fist Luffy

@sirplayalot11:

Did nobody read page 11?
Seriously?

! http://static3.mangastream.com/manga/5/40324560/op_11.png ****"****Ahh, Brook's thing. Yeah I knew because TD's(<what is="" that?)="" been="" all="" over="" the="" place.="" he's="" shining="" right="" now!!="" from="" dark,="" silent,="" fog="" filled="" sea.="" he="" climbed="" up="" to="" a="" bright="" stage="" of="" never="" ending="" cheers!<br="">Who knows…he may not...even come back...to the pirate life..."</what>

If you go back to the first 11 pages of this thread you'll see that being repeated over and over again.

dillypark

@Rubber:

Zoro didn't only get a scar, he lost his eye, and it wasn't the same eye either.:

It was just an interesting thought.

I'm thoroughly interested in finding out how he lost his eye though.

tikidreq

Did oda comment on Franky's design yet..If yes, please post it..thanks :D

Rubber Fist Luffy

@dillypark:

It was just an interesting thought.

I'm thoroughly interested in finding out how he lost his eye though.

Me too, I hope Oda saves the story of each one's scars for the right time.

Since you guys mentioned smoker, I was thinking before, how could his DF be used in an offensive way?
The only thing I find good about his DF is that its a logia, but that's pretty useless when you're using haki.

Retsudo

@Zarnikon:

Crocodile
Enel
Moria
Bluno
Lucci

So what can we say, Luffy is really fast with his gears second and also strong. He has defeated all the guys above and has fought vice admirals. And he was 17/18. I would rank him as a low Vice Admiral there.
Now 2 years later, he has grown a lot stronger. He is 2 years older so he should be more manly and be physically stronger. With all the training he mostlikely also got a lot faster and he now can use all sorts of Haki.
He is atleast at the level of a High Vice Admiral and strong enough to hold out against an Admiral (not defeat but atleast hold out long enough to make a run for it)

The current Admirals are guys who can fight on par with Marco and Rayleigh.

Luffy's not up there yet. We aren't even at the NW yet.

Bentham

@sirplayalot11:

Did nobody read page 11?
Seriously?

! http://static3.mangastream.com/manga/5/40324560/op_11.png ****"****Ahh, Brook's thing. Yeah I knew because TD's(<what is="" that?)="" been="" all="" over="" the="" place.="" he's="" shining="" right="" now!!="" from="" dark,="" silent,="" fog="" filled="" sea.="" he="" climbed="" up="" to="" a="" bright="" stage="" of="" never="" ending="" cheers!<br="">Who knows…he may not...even come back...to the pirate life..."</what>

Hey lets just ignore brooks manager saying last week that its his final concert

5_Of_Spades

@WarshipArc:

Training under Mihawk could have infused him with a little western influence.

That would be pretty cool. I want to see his sword in better detail too, just to confirm the little cross deco.

Asked because after scanning the raw page, I couldn't find kanji or hiragana for tenshi on the last two pages. Did see one kanji of "kami" though.

Did Zoro's ego just get bigger?

Anyone proficient with the language, help please?

alchipx

Man oh man, people are totally gung-ho about Luffy's power up. Admiral level? That would be a Bleach-level mistake.

I expect the Mugiwara to go against Sentoumaru and his Pacifistas, and do well. Remember, the first time they were pretty much hopeless. They would have been annihilated if Rayleigh/Kuma didn't show up. If they are able to stand their ground against sumo-dude and his crew, that's enough for me. I look forward to Sentou's shock when he gets a Gomu Gomu Haki Fist sandwich to his grill.

BTW, I really wanted to see Sanji's reaction when he would have first seen Luffy w/ Hancock and the Kuja pirates. He would have been depressed for years after that one.

rubia_ryu

@5_Of_Spades:

That would be pretty cool. I want to see his sword in better detail too, just to confirm the little cross deco.

Asked because after scanning the raw page, I couldn't find kanji or hiragana for tenshi on the last two pages. Did see one kanji of "kami" though.

Did Zoro's ego just get bigger?

Anyone proficient with the language, help please?

"疫病神" literally means "God of Pestilence", which can be reworded as "Angel of Death" to fit Western culture.

~~Whatever, he's totally just messing around.~~

~~Or, he could have been converted to Christianity.~~

Edit: Hey, did anyone notice on the cover page that it says "Request"? Does that mean that the picture was a fan request that Oda drew up? It definitely seems like it.

Outerspec

@sirplayalot11:

Did nobody read page 11?
Seriously?

! [qimg]http://static3.mangastream.com/manga/5/40324560/op_11.png[/qimg] ****"****Ahh, Brook's thing. Yeah I knew because TD's(<what is="" that?)="" been="" all="" over="" the="" place.="" he's="" shining="" right="" now!!="" from="" dark,="" silent,="" fog="" filled="" sea.="" he="" climbed="" up="" to="" a="" bright="" stage="" of="" never="" ending="" cheers!<br="">Who knows…he may not...even come back...to the pirate life..."</what>

TD = Tone Dials

cobra_grasso

My money is on Zoro being that character Oda was talking about ages ago getting the first OP eyepatch. The one from the SBS he wanted to draw every time he thought of him.

5_Of_Spades

@rubia_ryu:

"疫病神" literally means "God of Pestilence", which can be reworded as "Angel of Death" to fit Western culture.

~~Whatever, he's totally just messing around.~~

~~Or, he could have been converted to Christianity.~~

Edit: Hey, did anyone notice on the cover page that it says "Request"? Does that mean that the picture was a fan request that Oda drew up? It definitely seems like it.

Ah much thanks. :D
I'll hold off thinking Mihawk had successfully converted Zoro until further evidence then.

~~Imagines Basara Masamune joining Zabii's religion of love. Brain breaks.~~

I hope the requester didn't specify flesh eating sheep as a part of her request. Unless Luffy is actually eating soy meat, on the bone.

BakaWoof

I'm so glad that Zoro is still that lost child he used to be. ^^
I never thought he would really lose an eye though, I was expecting him to look like Rayleigh eh~

Kishido

As I predicted… NF is going wild on Zoro's eye theories and that the poor guy is always handicapped from now on xD

TräshCät

now that i've read the new chapter … it's awesome. :D can't wait for the next.

however .. that one line zoro had .. was so unlike him. if i didn't know better i'd have thought it to be mihawks line. don't do that again zoro.

Chopper Madness

@KiShiDo:

As I predicted… NF is going wild on Zoro's eye theories and that the poor guy is always handicapped from now on xD

he always handicapped now Oda doesnt have to think up crazy scenarios anymore lol

Kishido

@Chopper:

he always handicapped now Oda doesnt have to think up crazy scenarios anymore lol

Poor guy… A 2 eyed Zoro would be the pirate king and not Luffy

Saturnchild

@Tep:

I don't think Luffy is quite at the level to take on an admiral. That's pretty silly.

Defeat him completely? Probably no. Fight equally for a while until they can make their escape I think so

If there is even a fight that lasts longer than a chapter, its showdown will probably look like this:

Sentomaru vs Luffy
Pacifista X-5 vs Zoro
Pacifista X-7 vs Sanji
Fake Straw Hats & Recruits vs Rest

=/ And, of course, Chopper can go save the pickle chick.
Ummmmm Zoro's pretty BA. No objections.

Yeah but it would be lame if we don't see how Franky's upgrades fair against the Pacifista.

Ummmmm I wonder if we got a new admiral. I really want to see them, if so.
Show us blackbeard too effffffffffffffffffffff

JERK DISEASE

Any person suggesting Luffy is on or near Admiral level needs to punch themselves directly in the face.

Kishido

@JERK:

Any person suggesting Luffy is on or near Admiral level needs to punch themselves directly in the face.

Not only for that…

Buccaneer

That's highly unlikely, but he had to be something like a lower level Vice Admiral before. I bet he's at least as strong as Hancock now.

Floralshirt

why are so many people saying that at some point, someone will have an eyepatch? is it just fans being fans? or is it well-founded?
[EDIT: aside from the fact that Zoro's eye may, or may not, be lost…that in-and-of-itself isn't doesn't guarantee an eye patch]

i have to ask it…is there some SBS backing (or other "direct-from-oda" source that says that there will be a major character in OP that will have an eye patch?)

And before everyone yells at me for asking; no, I didn't read every signle one of the 39 pages of posts in this thread before I asked. And no, i didn't read the ENTIRE FREAKEN FORUM looking for some post to answer this question. I was hoping that someone who's been hanging 'round the forum more than I could answer this question, free of trolling, simply to satisfy my curiosity.

I've simply noticed a relatively high density of posts recently claiming that "Zoro will be the ONE to get an eye-patch." I was hoping to find out (without having to read the entirety of arlong park forums) if there is some reason to believe that this will ever happen OTHER than silly fans hoping for their silly ideals to come to fruition.

and of course, no offense intended...just curious.

Retsudo

I say Luffy is currently within the VAs weight class.

Although, the best VAs would mangle him. Like John Giant.

Chopper Madness

@Floralshirt:

why are so many people saying that at some point, someone will have an eyepatch? is it just fans being fans? or is it well-founded?

i have to ask it…is there some SBS backing (or other "direct-from-oda" source that says that there will be a major character in OP that will have an eye patch?)

And before everyone yells at me for asking; no, I didn't read every signle one of the 39 pages of posts in this thread before I asked. And no, i didn't read the ENTIRE FREAKEN FORUM looking for some post to answer this question. I was hoping that someone who's been hanging 'round the forum more than I could answer this question, free of trolling, simply to satisfy my curiosity.

I've simply noticed a relatively high density of posts recently claiming that "Zoro will be the ONE to get an eye-patch." I was hoping to find out (without having to read the entirety of arlong park forums) if there is some reason to believe that this will ever happen OTHER than silly fans hoping for their silly ideals to come to fruition.

and of course, no offense intended...just curious.

supposedly oda said some one specific will have an eye patch … and that he couldnt wait to draw that specific character

i think greg's website has that info

Floralshirt

@Chopper:

supposedly oda said some one specific will have an eye patch … and that he couldnt wait to draw that specific character

i think greg's website has that info

thanks. will check.

OldSnake

@Floralshirt:

why are so many people saying that at some point, someone will have an eyepatch? is it just fans being fans? or is it well-founded?
[EDIT: aside from the fact that Zoro's eye may, or may not, be lost…that in-and-of-itself isn't doesn't guarantee an eye patch]

i have to ask it…is there some SBS backing (or other "direct-from-oda" source that says that there will be a major character in OP that will have an eye patch?)

And before everyone yells at me for asking; no, I didn't read every signle one of the 39 pages of posts in this thread before I asked. And no, i didn't read the ENTIRE FREAKEN FORUM looking for some post to answer this question. I was hoping that someone who's been hanging 'round the forum more than I could answer this question, free of trolling, simply to satisfy my curiosity.

I've simply noticed a relatively high density of posts recently claiming that "Zoro will be the ONE to get an eye-patch." I was hoping to find out (without having to read the entirety of arlong park forums) if there is some reason to believe that this will ever happen OTHER than silly fans hoping for their silly ideals to come to fruition.

and of course, no offense intended...just curious.

Here you go my friend. Read note 5
http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=29766

Spah

@Rubber:

Since you guys mentioned smoker, I was thinking before, how could his DF be used in an offensive way?
The only thing I find good about his DF is that its a logia, but that's pretty useless when you're using haki.

Be right back, just gonna trap someone in a cloud of smoke to see how long he lasts.

Xaravir

@TräshCät:

however .. that one line zoro had .. was so unlike him. if i didn't know better i'd have thought it to be mihawks line. don't do that again zoro.

You mean that line he said against T-Bone? Or that line he said against Kaku? It's completely like him to have random spouts of philosophy.

LordMelkor

Is it just me or does it look like zoro has an eye scar on his new wanted poster…?

Kishido

@LordMelkor:

Is it just me or does it look like zoro has an eye scar on his new wanted poster…?

Just you… It's the same old bounty picture

JustBethan

Oh no. Now Nami looks like my mum.

The only problem besisdes I have with the new thing is that Zoro's eye seems to switch sides. Oh well, for a guy who's been drawing the same characters in the same way for 10 years and suddenly drawing a drastic change there's bound to be mistakes.

That's all I got to say 'cause I know nothing intelegent to say.

Oh and.
One Piece is back.
I can be sane again finally.

I'm gonna go now before I say anyhting more I mgith regret so people can badger at me how I get everythign wrogn constantly. Which I should be used to tbh. bye.

Neomaster121

i just had a thought

Zoro cut the ship but he did more than just cut the ship

it was coated in the jelly which was touched by robin and said to be ble to with stand the high pressures of the ocean

So Zoro's single slash was more powerful than the depth of the ocean minimum

dark knight

Hopefully franky proves useful with his new powerup im going to constantly measure him to jozu so i expect him to be able to harm a admiral

LordMelkor

@Neomaster121:

i just had a thought

Zoro cut the ship but he did more than just cut the ship

it was coated in the jelly which was touched by robin and said to be ble to with stand the high pressures of the ocean

So Zoro's single slash was more powerful than the depth of the ocean minimum

some physics for you:

P = F/A

Neomaster121

@LordMelkor:

some physics for you:

P = F/A

Thank you

well im talking about the water pressure which nearly destroyed frankys submarine luffy robin and brookes

wintergt

@dark:

Hopefully franky proves useful with his new powerup im going to constantly measure him to jozu so i expect him to be able to harm a admiral

He won't unless he somehow learned haki. Not to mention that it would be preposterous someone from the mugiwara crew, not being Luffy, could take on an admiral at this point. That should be more for the end of the series, not right now.

LordMelkor

@Neomaster121:

Thank you

well im talking about the water pressure which nearly destroyed frankys submarine luffy robin and brookes

As am I. There is only one kind of pressure.

Despite one piece being a work of fiction your statement was very silly.

The reason blades are able to cut is because the impart an amount of force over a very small area.

Example: You can stand on a soda can without damaging it. Take a needle and with much less force you can poke holes in the can destroying it, while using much less force than that imparted by the weight of your whole body.

Another example: You can have Mike Tyson wailing on a punching bag, with the force of the punches being powerful enough to kill a man, and the bag still wont break. Give a little kid a really sharp sword and he/she will fuck that bag up.

Neomaster121

@LordMelkor:

As am I. There is only one kind of pressure.

Despite one piece being a work of fiction your statement was very silly.

The reason blades are able to cut is because the impart an amount of force over a very small area.

Example: you can stand on a soda can, without damaging it, but you can take a needle and with much less force you can poke holes in the can destroying it, while using much less force, than that imparted by the weight of your whole body.

another example: you can have mike tyson wailing on a punching bag, with the force of the punches being powerful enough to kill a man, and the bag still wont break. Give a little kid a really sharp sword and he/she will fuck that bag up.

your right

i take my hat off to you sir

mrgasbag

So a lot of people are taking fluffy's word that luffy's bounty is now 400 million berri. What is your take on this guys?