Well out of that list, 1 of those things are useful, saving Ussop, well since he's more of a Comic Relife, he isn;t super important
Amazing you didn't get flamed to hell and back for this statement by some people here :laugh:
Well out of that list, 1 of those things are useful, saving Ussop, well since he's more of a Comic Relife, he isn;t super important
Amazing you didn't get flamed to hell and back for this statement by some people here :laugh:
Do you wish to die? Do you even know that this place has a lot of devoted Usopp fans?
Usopp, not super-important? How do you define "important"? Without him, the whole atmosphere changes. Without him, some of the StrawHats would've died (Little Garden, for example). Without him, Nami stands no chance against Miss Doublefinger.
Usopp's loyalty to the crew and his devotion to his friends make him a true "nakama."
jackvance: I retaliated. ^^ I have to.
Usopp fans are above flaming.
/me remembers when he went to town on Usopp
/me also remembers the verbal battering he got for it lol
Sogeking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usopp
/me remembers when he went to town on Usopp
Sogeking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usopp
Wrong equation.
SogeKing = Usopp + Killer Costume + Attitude.
SogeKing is just Usopp with a mask. They do not really have any other actual difference. But good if it opens some eyes.
SogeKing is just Usopp just with a mask. They do not really have any other actual difference. But good if it opens some eyes.
You're killing the fun!
woah everyone stop directing quotes at me, this is you all vs Gozar i'm just a bystander, i gave my legimate reasons on the last page and thought i got the seal of approval for my reasons of dislike.
What? I just responded to a statement of yours is that forbidden or what?
PS. i hate the she can read ancient argument,…
What´s wrong with that argument? That is her skill. This is as if I would say "I hate the he can use three swords argument" for somebody that tries to speak of Zoro´s qualities.
You're killing the fun!
That's me, so ernest and always breaking the parties.
I could make a character who could fight with four swords…
jackvance: I retaliated. ^^ I have to.
Yeah but that was a civil response :laugh:
@CosmicDebris:
Usopp fans are above flaming.
and I wanted to see rampaging fangirls =(
What? I just responded to a statement of yours is that forbidden or what?
i was jesting with you? friday night? sense of humour?
What? I just responded to a statement of yours is that forbidden or what?
What´s wrong with that argument? That is her skill. This is as if I would say "I hate the he can use three swords argument" for somebody that tries to speak of Zoro´s qualities.
in all fairness, no one used the "he's a swordsman argument" when defending Zoro.
in all fairness, no one used the "he's a swordsman argument" when defending Zoro.
**I did…..........
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SogeKing is just Usopp with a mask. They do not really have any other actual difference. But good if it opens some eyes.
from what i've gathered their characters are very quite different, hence my previous posts about my hopes for him after this arc.
just for the record i'm in agreement with you all, robin's done alot for the crew, she's just not day-to-day-ish and that's what bugs me, and usopps been essential thus far just i hate his cowardiss but think sogeking will make him a stronger person.
go and argue with gozar and leave me aloneeeeeeeeeeee
(that was another joke)
in all fairness, no one used the "he's a swordsman argument" when defending Zoro.
See Octogon arleady prove you wrong. And even if nobody did it, it doesn´t mean that it is not the same argument. We are talking about skills here, Zoro is uses swords, Nami predicts the weather, Usopp shoots precise, Sanji cooks, Chopper heals and Robin deciphers information. If it would be an RPG then those would exactly be their skills.
PS: How should I know that you are jesting anyway if you don´t make it clear? Your statement seemed more that you were unpleased instead of joking around. I can´t read minds you know.
go and argue with gozar and leave me aloneeeeeeeeeeee
(that was another joke)
So.. you want everyone to bug you even more?
@jackvance:
So.. you want everyone to bug you even more?
damn you, tripping me up over my own words
PS: How should I know that you are jesting anyway if you don´t make it clear? Your statement seemed more that you were unpleased instead of joking around. I can´t read minds you know.
hmmmm, you for christmas my good sir are getting "mind reader 2.0" it comes with a handy wire to plug straight into your usb, perfect for when you're on arlong park ;)
/me remembers when he went to town on Usopp
/me also remembers the verbal battering he got for it lol
Hehe. That's also why I'm not bothering this time.
Sogeking >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usopp
You haven't even seen Sogeking. :laugh:
And Yoska is right, really. The only difference between Usopp and Sogeking is a mask and a cape. They don't even really act much differently. Particularly in the last several chapters.
@jackvance:
and I wanted to see rampaging fangirls
Haven't you had enough of us already?
from what i've gathered their characters are very quite different
Unfortunatly or fortunatly they aren't, they even share the same comedy routines with few additions. Think of Mr. Prince, it's Sanji but with sunglasses. And SogeKing hasn't yet had such a defining bad arse moment like Four Ton Hammer was.
in all fairness, no one used the "he's a swordsman argument" when defending Zoro.
I've seen this a lot, A LOT. It is like the reasoning why Zoro's such an awesome character.
Sabre, you have become popular, aren't you? Everybody are quoting you :ninja:.
The day Robin began her job as a society queen she will lose some of her character. Once again, Zoro either doesn't talk much. Is it because Robin's a female that this isn't regard as cool behavior?
I think so, when ya talk about a warrior ya got those quiet guys like Piccolo fom DBZ. But with a girl it's just not the same, she seems stuck up, it's like she wantsa nothing to do with the crew like she's only there for personal benifit (like Nami in the beginning).
I think so, when ya talk about a warrior ya got those quiet guys like Piccolo fom DBZ. But with a girl it's just not the same, she seems stuck up, it's like she wantsa nothing to do with the crew like she's only there for personal benifit (like Nami in the beginning).
That's just wrong. There are plenty of quiet females like that. And about her being stuck up she's not and even if she does seem so, SHE'S A PIRATE!!!
I fail to see how robin is like nami in the begining.
Personal Benifit, all she wants is to decode stuff, right? I don;t think she cares about the crew.
Personal Benifit, all she wants is to decode stuff, right? I don;t think she cares about the crew.
WHAT?!!??! If you think like that then all the strawhats are in it for themselves. Luffy just wants to be pirate king, zoro the greates swordsman etc. If she doesn't care about the crew then why is she risking the saftey of the entire world just so all the strawhats(INCLUDING her) to get of the island saftley? It's one thing to say she doesn't fir, but this!!?!?!?!
I think so, when ya talk about a warrior ya got those quiet guys like Piccolo fom DBZ. But with a girl it's just not the same, she seems stuck up, it's like she wantsa nothing to do with the crew like she's only there for personal benifit (like Nami in the beginning).
Nah, she is has just a calm personality. That´s not a bad thing. Especially if Franky should join then I think people will even appreciate her calm being even more.
Plus you have to think that she still wasn´t able to confront herself with the demons of her past. This is actually killing her from the inside. All the other Strawhats already surpassed the point where their past was the destructive part of the personality and are now stronger because of that. Robin has still to get that way. And especially because of that reason that she still didn´t make it that far and still was able to help the crew she actually gets an extra point of being useful.
But being silent and calm doesn´t mean that she has no interest in helping out. It´s just a different kind of character.
Personal Benifit, all she wants is to decode stuff, right? I don;t think she cares about the crew.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
Yes it definitely is personal benefit to throw away your life, turn yourself over to the World Government to get tortured and executed just for the one purpose that the WG doesn´t lay a hand on Luffy, Zoro, Nami, Usopp, Sanji and Chopper. Are you actually putting any constructive though behind your arguments after all or do you just have fun in teasing us?
Acctually, it's a bit different, they are all with Luffy, Robin, I just don't trust her.
Look, I am not even up to her yet in the Manga, all I know about her is from what I have read…..also this site says Zoro does not trust her, is that still true? Cause I think it might be a clue from Oda.
Especially if Franky should join
How come everyone thinks this? :wacko:
Wait a second, how far in the manga are you actually? I thought you were at Water 7. Right now it appears that you didn´t even read to the part where she actually joined yourself but just go by what other´s said.
I just said I am not up to where she joins, I've only read episode reviews & watched a few Fansubs.
Look, this argument is getting old. Why don't you watch the end of Alabasta, Skypeia, and Water 7 (or read the manga, even better), and then form an opinion about how useful or committed to the crew she may or may not be?
But it would be helpful to know where you are actually at the mange in order not to spoil things for you as I just didn´t in my post before the last one.
And if you aren´t that far in the manga then this is also the reason why you don´t consider her being useful yet. We all thought so at the begining but rest assured that she already did useful things for the crew.
The whole time I had the impression that you were up to date and still think that she didn´t do a thing for the team which at the point where most of us who disagree with you isn´t the case anymore.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
AHEHEHEHEHEHH! XD You wouldn't know how much I laughted when I saw this.
Look, I am not even up to her yet in the Manga, all I know about her is from what I have read…..also this site says Zoro does not trust her, is that still true? Cause I think it might be a clue from Oda.
Listen, Gozar, you really shouldn't debate about this if you haven't actually read (or seen) up to where the story is. Not because it will spoil you but because it just doesn't make bloody sense. You're basing your assumptions to other peoples' assumptions!
Edit: Okey, I'm doing freaking too many grammar errors today…
Personal Benifit, all she wants is to decode stuff, right? I don;t think she cares about the crew.
Just to clear things up, exactly how far in the series are you?
Because this is definately proven wrong beyong a shadow of a doubt in Water 7. She cares about them more than anyone and anything she's ever cared about.
Edit: Wow, people sure posted fast.
Geez, Gozar, no wonder you don't like Robin, you've never even seen anything she's in yet. Don't you think that's sort of, you know, a requirement to know something about a character before you form an opinion?
Sabre, you have become popular, aren't you? Everybody are quoting you :ninja:.
shhhhh, i'm loving my new celebrity status.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
even i would've laughed at that one, lmao at the person who's made the biggest sacrifice for the crew to date being labled as the one that don't care about them.
though you lot lay off the guy if he isn't up to that bit or even read the spoilers regarding it, then it just means Oda is doing a great job of leading em up to ep 240
though you lot lay off the guy if he isn't up to that bit or even read the spoilers regarding it, then it just means Oda is doing a great job of leading em up to ep 240
Now that I know that, I'm not going to bother anymore. But because he was making such presumptious statements about Robin, there was no way I would have guessed he never even watched the episodes she's in yet. Because that would be really silly.
True, as far as debating goes I am far outclassed here. But I still know about her character & what she does.
True, as far as debating goes I am far outclassed here. But I still know about her character & what she does.
You do not know enough.
You do not know enough.
i have to agree. besides that though, does anyone remember lol, ahh the good old days :D
Now that I know that, I'm not going to bother anymore. But because he was making such presumptious statements about Robin, there was no way I would have guessed he never even watched the episodes she's in yet. Because that would be really silly.
I´m in the same boat here. It appeared that he was very far in the manga. Therefore I was so fired up as how somebody denies the obvious just because of personal character dislikes. Since he doesn´t even know what he´s talking about that changes the entire situation.
True, as far as debating goes I am far outclassed here. But I still know about her character & what she does.
Excuse me but you don´t know. All of your statements in this thread and in others where you´re saying the same prove that you just don´t know enough. That´s not a bad thing.
However when everybody disagree´s with you and everybody has much farther progressed in the manga then you, does it then actually ring your bells or not? I mean at least it could have made you think "Hmm, maybe those guys know something that I don´t know yet."
But no, you just defended your opinion that is based on rumors. And just to play fair, how about you finally tell us how far in the story you so that we don´t spoil anything for you?
uh, Volume 17 (Ch.149)
uh, Volume 17 (Ch.149)
Yep, that´s definitely not enough for you. Don´t want to say much more since it would just spoil it for you.
But you should really not make statements the way you did if you don´t know that much. I´m not saying that you should not stop talking with us, but you definitely shouldn´t make false accusations if you don´t know the facts.
And one more thing. It is always best if you know the things for yourself then going be rough outlines from what you hear from other people because as you see it can be very misleading.
Well once I read it all, we'll see how I feel after that. Also I'm sorry for arguing with you guys too pre-maturley.