Oh, ok then. Its not bad, though, I think.
Its not like its a very important line.
Oh, ok then. Its not bad, though, I think.
Its not like its a very important line.
**Did you forget that Luffy just got a shot of adrenaline?
And when has WB ever even hinted at giving up?** Answer: He hasn't, not even once.
This brat ! The rookie ! who is overshadowing me the yonkou.
This brat ! The rookie ! who is overshadowing me the yonkou.
So you're still not understanding anything. Week after week you have the opportunity to read a lot of comments and at least understand what you missed during the chapters. I guess you're hopeless?
Edit: Thanks Aohige. The accurate translation makes sense regarding WBs fame.
Well finally got to read it on mangastream… And I think it is highly hinted that Ac will take over the WBs after Wb falls... But what's a bit strange... Ace finally should got pissed of and releasing some type of haki or something else as well... Hell his beloved "father" got stabbed like nothing and he still doesn't to anything
It's already been mentioned, but Aokiji's line is "Whoa, you gotta be kiddin' me…"
Whitebeard's line when Ace was about to get executed was "Useless!! You think I can't stop you from.... GAH!!"
He was about to stop them from killing Ace, but his damage kicked in right at that moment, robbing him of strength to do so.
ah.. thanks.. reliable as always Bluebeard!
Luffy on drugs you idiot.
Sure, but Luffy was almost dead a few seconds before but still asked and convince Iva to boost him one last time. So at least he had the will to do something.
Im not too sure about Shanks or Rayleigh having king haki, i dont think kings haki is the only haki that can knock ppl out. I think anyone with a strong enough haki can do it, when Shanks went on whitebeards ship it was said that shanks had amazing "vigor and drive" (nulls 434) why would oda put "vigor and drive" in there if shanks has king haki?
Because back then we didn't know anything about haki and Oda didn't want us to know about an element of such importance in this story at that time, so he named it something we wouldn't really care about.
So you're still not understanding anything. Week after week you have the opportunity to read a lot of comments and at least understand what you missed during the chapters. I guess you're hopeless?
Edit: Thanks Aohige. The accurate translation makes sense regarding WBs fame.
I guess that we will see who is right in 3 weeks and who is hopeless. There are a lot of stubborn guys including you who think that thats the best, the strongest man in One Piece can do. How the fuck is he the strongest man when he is raped by an Admiral. The marines top 5 fighters are Sengoku, Garp and the 3 admirals. So if WB the strongest, cant beat ONE OF THEM ! how the fuck is there a chance for the WB pirates to do anything good in this war. The 2 of his grand tiers are already kicked out. Even if Rayleigh, Squardo, Luffy, Croc, Davy Jones lookalike came for the rescue he is hopeless as long as he - the boss cant pass a marine admiral. If a rookie is saving his son, and he the proud King of the Sea can do nothing he should be embarassed.
The strongest crew in the OP World should be embarassed to be relying on a 17 year old kid.
Come on ! Bring it on ! who else thinks that WB is fighting with more than his 100% of his will ?
Marines are used to use seastone to take DF users down, but I'm surprised at how easily Marco got caught :getlost:
Why not do it to WB then ? He didn't even try to avoid any attacks, he took them all ! Next time, just use a seastone blade and voila. Unless he was already in contact with seastone and was still able to fight to that level, that would make him a monster !
Come on ! Bring it on ! who else thinks that WB is fighting with more than his 100% of his will ?
You are the only moron here who directly ignore the fact that WB is an old sick man doing great despite his handicap.
Well it is weird that WG is completely overpowering worlds strongest pirate crew without any trouble at all.All it cost were just a bunch of marines and some bruises on admirals.I understand the fact that Oda will blame the old age for Whitebeards pathetic status in this war but what the hell about Marco and Jozu? Marco stayed there all the time without making any important action like a side character and now Jozu is getting defeated by Aokiji in offscreen like goddamn Buggy.
If this is the worlds strongest crew, Im sure Blackbeard can suck entire marine base into oblivion while Burgess+Lafitte+Shiryu doing some whitebeard style fighting with sniper and apple artillary support from Auger+Q.That would be more devastating than a bunch of earthquakes killing cannon fodders.
You are the only moron here who directly ignored the fact that WB is an old sick man doing great despite his handicap.
And you are one of the morons who ignore the fact that WB is titled..
The strongest man alive.
The King of the Sea.
You ignore the fact that he wouldnt order 43 crew for no reason. You also ignore the fact that without a rookie who escaped the greatest prison in the world and fought everyone, Ace would be dead… twice !
So I do insist that Luffy is fightin with more will than WB does. So the WB pirates should be inspired by him and put their asses on the line if they want to save Ace. (there is no chance for them to take down the Marine HQ though)
And you are one of the morons who ignore the fact that WB is titled..
The strongest man alive.
The King of the Sea.
You ignore the fact that he wouldnt order 43 crew for no reason. You also ignore the fact that without a rookie who escaped the greatest prison in the world and fought everyone, Ace would be dead… twice !
So I do insist that Luffy is fightin with more will than WB does. So the WB pirates should be inspired by him and put their asses on the line if they want to save Ace. (there is no chance for them to take down the Marine HQ though)
Whitebeard stated "u can call me a monster,a demon,but i am only one man with one heart,i cant be the strongest forever".
is this not enough to you?
I guess that we will see who is right in 3 weeks and who is hopeless. There are a lot of stubborn guys including you who think that thats the best, the strongest man in One Piece can do. How the fuck is he the strongest man when he is raped by an Admiral. The marines top 5 fighters are Sengoku, Garp and the 3 admirals. So if WB the strongest, cant beat ONE OF THEM ! how the fuck is there a chance for the WB pirates to do anything good in this war. The 2 of his grand tiers are already kicked out. Even if Rayleigh, Squardo, Luffy, Croc, Davy Jones lookalike came for the rescue he is hopeless as long as he - the boss cant pass a marine admiral. If a rookie is saving his son, and he the proud King of the Sea can do nothing he should be embarassed.
The strongest crew in the OP World should be embarassed to be relying on a 17 year old kid.Come on ! Bring it on ! who else thinks that WB is fighting with more than his 100% of his will ?
ur right but u have to consider that he is old now not as powerful as he used to be and apperantly is sick or whatever he had an IV in him for gods sake i thinks it safe to assume he didnt have full power when he started this war
Whitebeard stated "u can call me a monster,a demon,but i am only one man with one heart,i cant be the strongest forever".
is this not enough to you?
He also stated …"There might still be a chance to win this. " after he was stabbed. So how the fuck is there a chance to win this if he cant beat an admiral.
He also stated …"There might still be a chance to win this. " after he was stabbed. So how the fuck is there a chance to win this if he cant beat an admiral.
yes.he said that,before tha pain reached the top.
Still ! WB must have something left inside him in order to save Ace. On the other hand Luffy tried every hormonic shit he could, he used gear second around 20 times, he is having a bath in blood and he used his Kings' will. Luffy is beyond his limits while WB isnt.
Whitebeard's line when Ace was about to get executed was "Useless!! You think I can't stop you from…. GAH!!"
He was about to stop them from killing Ace, but his damage kicked in right at that moment, robbing him of strength to do so.
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Are you sure? In the next panel he says "dammit" (maybe a mistranslation too?^^), and tbh, he doesn't looked like someone who was about to attack.
To bow to the inevitable, that's something he can't do, not as the Whitebeard. But he knew, deep in his heart, his biggest fear came true, he was incapable to protect his family.
edit: i misread something sorry :<
^Arguing with Aohige_AP about translations? I wouldn't go there if I were you.
^Arguing with Aohige_AP about translations? I wouldn't go there if I were you.
Did you read my post? I wasn't arguing with his translation, but with it's interpretation.
Still ! WB must have something left inside him in order to save Ace. On the other hand Luffy tried every hormonic shit he could, he used gear second around 20 times, he is having a bath in blood and he used his Kings' will. Luffy is beyond his limits while WB isnt.
i dont know what u guys want.you dont want sayan things,immortal warriors….blabla then the strongest man reveals to be a normal human,victim of time,u get polemic on that.
@BattleFrankyBot:
ur right but u have to consider that he is old now not as powerful as he used to be and apperantly is sick or whatever he had an IV in him for gods sake i thinks it safe to assume he didnt have full power when he started this war
So does luffy,he is young and not as powerful as he is always.
Just got himself from Impel Down after a fight with magellen,got almost dead(one level from white beard's level of death right now) and still didn't surrender,did more that one blow of courage in a time..
got 2 hormones injects..
Still ! WB must have something left inside him in order to save Ace.
Self-sacrifice. There is no limit on this planet who can match the self-sacrifice of someone like WB. He is shielded now, knowing he will die, i wouldn't like to be in the shoes of Garp or Sengoku right now. :>
Shake the island more, cut the air with his spear, grab Akainu and break his bones etc
Shake the island more, cut the air with his spear, grab Akainu and break his bones etc
my my he cant do that much,the iceland would sink to the bottom of the sea and goodbye ace and sons
my my he cant do that much,the iceland would sink to the bottom of the sea and goodbye ace and sons
He should risk it, its goodbye Ace and sons anyway.
He should risk it, its goodbye Ace and sons anyway.
whitebeard killed by his hand all his sons because he did not think about the consequences of his power.he is one man with one heart,and one valid brain as well
This shit is retarded just like the Croc only lost to Luffy the 3rd time because he didn't use this and that nonsense. These guys never had a chance too. Blades are coming down at the exact same time he's thinking he can't do anything.
Blades are coming down at the exact same time he's thinking he can't do anything.
really?i thought it was a bad translation
And you are one of the morons who ignore the fact that WB is titled..
The strongest man alive.
The King of the Sea.
All that is moot since we know his current handicap.
You ignore the fact that he wouldnt order 43 crew for no reason.
Ahhh he is going to fight against the marines what did you think?
You also ignore the fact that without a rookie who escaped the greatest prison in the world and fought everyone, Ace would be dead… twice !
So is life. Luffy has to do something in this war and his mission is to save ace. You're expecting WB to solo everyone on the island and save ace alone haki pwn everyone to sky island…
So I do insist that Luffy is fightin with more will than WB does.
Oh really? One hint: Ivankov…. IVANKOV!
So the WB pirates should be inspired by him and put their asses on the line if they want to save Ace. (there is no chance for them to take down the Marine HQ though)
The WB pirates are putting "their asses" on the line for him. Don't you read what they shout to ace the whole fucking time? Just because joz and marco seem to be down now doesn't mean they're dead and are out for the rest of the war… Way to rage too soon!
Strongest or not… WB is a real MONSTER in this chapter. Stabbed by VA and still standing and owned all of the with a simple attack.
Not WB has to do something... Ace should somehow start to get pissed off like Luffy.
EDIT
And sadly still Croc vs DoFla
All that is moot since we know his current handicap.
Ahhh he is going to fight against the marines what did you think?
So is life. Luffy has to do something in this war and his mission is to save ace. You're expecting WB to solo everyone on the island and save ace alone haki pwn everyone to sky island…
Oh really? One hint: Ivankov.... IVANKOV!
The WB pirates are putting "their asses" on the line for him. Don't you read what they shout to ace the whole fucking time? Just because joz and marco seem to be down now doesn't mean they're dead and are out for the rest of the war... Way to rage too soon!
I said I expect him to shake the land and beat one of the 5 strongest marine fighters cause he is just pwning fodder….no different than that Croc does this with his tornadoes. Luffy's will to save Ace stronger than WB's will, thats a fact.
Compare these
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/568/14/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/536/09/
with this
http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000002/000263022/12-13.jpg
By the time WB could raise his hand to even aim a tremor the blades would have started tearing Ace's skin. Your post shows nothing but a kid screaming in desperation. If it were Luffy or Zoro in the same position they wouldn't be able to fire a pistol or 300 pound cannon either.
I said I expect him to shake the land and beat one of the 5 strongest marine fighters cause he is just pwning fodder….no different than that Croc does this with his tornadoes. Luffy's will to save Ace stronger than WB's will, thats a fact.
Compare these
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/568/14/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/536/09/with this
http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000002/000263022/12-13.jpg
What are you trying to prove? It doesn't make any sense… The simple fact that WB repeated he will save Aces future and is willing to die is enough to convince me that his will is unbroken. Then you have his health problems. I can't believe you want him to magically haki ignore his pain and go all out pwning an admiral. What will happen after that? If WB destroys one admiral would that be enough to save ace? Obviously not...
The only fact you have is that WB isn't as reckless as luffy and that's because he is an old man with a lot of experience. If he dies there because he forced his body he won't achieve anything. Better yet push his last energy in a good strategy.
But go on raging on things you can't even name or explain...
What are you trying to prove? It doesn't make any sense… The simple fact that WB repeated he will save Aces future and is willing to die is enough to convince me that his will is unbroken. Then you have his health problems. I can't believe you want him to magically haki ignore his pain and go all out pwning an admiral. What will happen after that? If WB destroys one admiral would that be enough to save ace? Obviously not...
The only fact you have is that WB isn't as reckless as luffy and that's because he is an old man with a lot of experience. If he dies there because he forced his body he won't achieve anything. Better yet push his last energy in a good strategy.
But go on raging on things you can't even name or explain...
Pwnage in truth right here.
What's funny is that according to the correct translation, Whitebeard could have done something if he weren't so damaged which goes to show more and more what a monster he is that even with his age and handicap, he's been doing so much and without it he could ahve done so much more. So blame Squardo's attack and Marine trickery and hostage disadvantages like Robby said and be done with this retarded argument.
^Arguing with Aohige_AP about translations? I wouldn't go there if I were you.
Maybe WB says something that's a bit cryptic and open to interpretation? Because binktopia's release is out and there it is translated as "it is useless.. even I could move.. guh"
Maybe WB says something that's a bit cryptic and open to interpretation? Because binktopia's release is out and there it is translated as "it is useless.. even I could move.. guh"
That just doesn't make sense..at all
They're not using the highly reliable cnet translations. Just wait for those, his trans should be the final word on the subject.
Cmon guys.. Stop arguing with this stupid garaa.. I hate reading his post every week
You're not alone rizu. Just to end the confusion Aohige has already translated the ambiguous parts:
http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=1411240&postcount=346
That just doesn't make sense..at all
It's essentially the same as the other trans, WB saying he can't stop it. And the exact opposite of what Aohige translated.
@Thousand:
They're not using the highly reliable cnet translations. Just wait for those, his trans should be the final word on the subject.
Yes, curious what he makes of it.
I have a feeling that Ivankov will inject WB next chapter (Luffy and Iva have nearly caught up to him), it'll probably be Luffy's idea.
I have a feeling that Ivankov will inject WB next chapter (Luffy and Iva have nearly caught up to him), it'll probably be Luffy's idea.
And then Shirohige will explode and cover everyone at Marineford in his guts.
I said I expect him to shake the land and beat one of the 5 strongest marine fighters cause he is just pwning fodder….no different than that Croc does this with his tornadoes. Luffy's will to save Ace stronger than WB's will, thats a fact.
Compare these
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/568/14/
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/536/09/with this
http://media.onemanga.com/mangas/00000002/000263022/12-13.jpg
What the hell, I'll take a shot at this.
Dude, you're complaining about WB not beating an admiral when it's really the other way around. Look at the circumstances. It's not just WB's age. He's fighting on the marine base. He's been stabbed because the marines tricked one of his teammates, and because of WB's honor he chose not to defend himself. Also, the marines have a hostage in Ace.
Because of these circumstances, the admirals and in fact no one can claim that they're as strong as Whitebeard because none of them are fighting him at full strength. You're complaining about Akainu kicking his ass when Akainu is only doing so well because of the work of others, he's not the better man for getting a few hits off of him. For Whitebeard to beat one of the strongest marines (with him being the strongest pirate) in his condition would mean that an admiral is less then half the man Whitebeard is. Does that make sense? You're argument fixates on Whitebeard without giving the marines their fair consideration.
And it's funny you ended up getting louder after it's pretty much been explained that the line of Whitebeard "giving up" was a mistranslation. Assuming this is anything more then a cry for attention, that is.
@Fire Fist:
And then Shirohige will explode and cover everyone at Marineford in his guts.
I get it, WB is old, extremely wounded and sick, but this is OP. Iva will warn him of the risk but he'll withstand the stress on his body through willpower.
why is Sengoku called a strategist? Ok, there were some nice plans but in the end they all failed and we have had a flashback of Sengoku and Garp fighting of Gold Lion Shiki where the 3 of them almost destroyed marineford so we can also assume Sengoku AND Garp are damn powerfull. So if that is the case, and if you ARE a brilliant strategist, why not send in 2 of the strongest men in the world?
This chapter kind of makes Haoushoku seem like Super-Saiyan. It's like Luffy can get peirced thoroughly with spears, and he'll use haki to shatter them at the same time healing instantaneously and knocking out his attackers without touching them. Then he'll warp to Ace and shatter his cuffs with a point of his finger, and proceed to gut Sengoku with Pwngoat and toss them both far far away from the island. Then he'll punch Garp once, knocking him out, and then warp Ace back to Whitebeard. He'll use telepathy to tell everyone to evacuate, then he'll use Gigant Jet Axe to crush the island to mud in the sea. Then he'll float in air and fly away.
Well, I'm surprised that Sengoku is so easily shocked. He fails as Fleet Commander.
why is Sengoku called a strategist? Ok, there were some nice plans but in the end they all failed and we have had a flashback of Sengoku and Garp fighting of Gold Lion Shiki where the 3 of them almost destroyed marineford so we can also assume Sengoku AND Garp are damn powerfull. So if that is the case, and if you ARE a brilliant strategist, why not send in 2 of the strongest men in the world?
You can still be a salesman and not make any sales for one freakin' day. Or in this case battle. You can't rate his reputation by the fact that his plans didn't work, especially cause them working would mean the quick and easy death of the WB pirates.
Also, Sengoku has this three strongest men, the admirals already fighting. He's not going out their cause he can't command his men in the heat of battle. Garp meanwhile is the last line of defense.
yes but having all the trumphcards and still not being the clear victor does make the name strategist a bit farfetched imo.
Last line of defence is okay for Garp and Sengoku but they could've done a lot more. Sengoku commanding the troops is only yelling "off with whitebeards head" which is something I am sure they have been trying since the beginning of this war so he IS great at stating the obvious, also he commands fodder to take out WB, GREAT strategy. . .