yeah Akatsuki kicks ass in this ep. stops Minerva's Tanhauser ,… yay. oh well. i guess we won't get Talia+bazooka+Gilbert=messy death and redmption of GSD :laugh:
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good ep
best scene was Mwu protecting ARCHANGEL like he did in gundam seed 1
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It's good to have Mwu back but I still can't accept the reality on how he survived the first season…...oh well XD
I can't believe that it's going to end soon.....only 1 episode left
I hope that the ending would at least tell us how and what each character is doing after the end of the series But with the time frame and storyline I highly doubt it. We probably will have a short OVA like from Seed to tell us -
Seems that Shinn will probably lose/be killed in the next ep.
Oh god,please let him be OWNED. -
from the preview its looks like he's "palming" Impulse. WTF is with that? he'll (try to)I kill his girlfriend yet again? :O
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IMO, not really a good episode. There are loads of reused scenes and the part where Mu blocked the positron beam is super deja-vu. I can only say I am utterly disappointed.
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imo it really needed to be a "de javu" i mean he is mwu he has instinct and his instinct to protect that ship, i dunno but i think that scene was needed to complete his scene/role in gsd
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Too much Deja Vu in my opinion. Meteors, yea, they're ok… but they hinder close range combat, even with those huge swords, harder to manuever. Akatsuki defending AA, HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? Even with shiny armor, Positrons are anti-matter, and they should discintegrate him, though it's nice that Mu's back, Fukuda really screwed this up... though it could be that Akatsuki is a mobile suit and the Tannhauser is an anti-fortress beamXD
But seriously, GENESIS? a mini genesis? what's wrong with this picture? idiots of ZAFT besides Dearka and Yzak(due to them allying with Terminal) should realize that Genesis is a bad giant laser. Then there's the Izumo class ships.anyway... next episode, looks like Luna's going down at the hands of Shinn... and we all hope that Shinn gets OWNED. sigh another bad ending...
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and so now it's over. here you go a summary.
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Pre-OP: Heavy fighting is already going on around Messiah, which has a large shield around it. The Eternal and AA are there, and many MS are being launched. The Minerva is near the AA, attacking. We never see this shield put up or what - it's like 5 mins have been dropped since the end of the last ep.
Anyway, Athrun (non-SEED mode) is worried about the Requiem being fired at Orb, with the backup relay stations - he says this while dodging Rey's DRAGOONs. Kira tells Athrun (since Justice should be able to get past the shield) and the AA to go to Requiem itself and take it out - he'll handle the fortress (Messiah). Kira says this while launching his DRAGOONs and roughing up Destiny a bit - Kira is non-SEED mode too. The Eternal stays - and Lacus says that Orb is more important than the Eternal. Mwu's Akatsuki uses the DRAGOON shield to protect Eternal while this is going on. Yzak decides to help protect the Eternal since it's a ZAFT ship. The 3 DOM Troopers do another Jet Stream Attack.
As Justice and the AA leave, Rey goes after them, and Kira launches SF's DRAGOONs on him, and Rey dodges after having a NewType reaction (sound effect and visual effect). Shinn comes charging in to help Rey, and Kira goes SEED mode, and fires SF's chest cannon to neutralise Destiny's cannon. Rey tells Shinn to go after Athrun and the AA - he'll take care of Freedom. As Kira watches Shinn leave, he has a NT reaction (same as Rey) and dodges Rey's DRAGOONs. As Kira continues to fight Rey, he looks rather shocked as he has a lot of brief flashbacks about Rau - doesn't get what's going on. (seems to me that Kira going SEED mode helps his NT strength - notice in earlier eps he senses Mwu only when in SEED mode). SF and Legend clash beam sabers and Rey says it's time to end it all.
OP: No changes.
Phase-50 "The Final Power" begins.
Kira and Rey are having an intense DRAGOON battle, and Kira gets one of Legend's DRAGOONs, but wonders how this can be (that he's fighting "Rau" again).
Justice and Akatsuki are fighting together, taking out ZAFT grunts - particularly Mwu who is now using all the DRAGOONs to attack (he was only using 3 before regaining his memory) and comments that the situation is difficult, but all ZAFT have are superior numbers.
AA takes out a Nazca ship. Murrue tells the Orb ships to recover their formation and says they're going to take out the shield on Requiem. Meanwhile, Minerva fires a load of missiles at the AA, and the AA retaliates. Meanwhile, Lunamaria takes out a Murasame and some grunt, and Justice is right behind them. Lunmaria looks nervous about facing Athrun and has a bunch of flashbacks about Athrun. She also remembers what Meyrin said in the previous ep - she then decides to attack a reluctant Athrun, and is angry about what he did to Meyrin. Athrun easily takes out one of Impulse's arms and legs and then Shinn comes in, shouting at the "traitorous" Athrun.
Lunamaria is happy to see Shinn, who angrily attacks Athrun. They both clash a bit and Shinn goes SEED mode. Shinn fires Destiny's thrusters on full power and pushes Athrun down towards the Moon's surface.
Back to Kira and Rey clashing. Kira says "who are you?" to Rey, while having a brief flashback of fighting Rau. Rey comments "I figured you could tell - I am Rau le Cluset" and Kira is (unsurprisingly) shocked, but still dodges all of Rey's DRAGOON spam. Rey is getting rather intense, and continues to press Kira, who is still shocked. Rey says that Kira is the "wonderful" result of people's dreams and future - which is why Kira must die, along with "us" (Rey and Rau?), so that the world can change. Meanwhile, on the Eternal, Lacus suddenly looks up shocked, in SEED mode (!!) and says "Kira!".
Rey has a flashback to 2 years ago, when Gilbert says that Rau is no longer around (ie, is dead), but says "You are also Rau" and hands Rey that bottle of blue/white pills, and Gilbert says "That is your destiny".
Meanwhile, Lunamaria is looking on worried as Athrun and Shinn are having a high speed battle. Athrun (non SEED mode) breaks Destiny's sword - and clearly has the edge against SEED mode Shinn.
Kira and Rey are briefly shown in battle and Kira is still shocked and confused, wondering why Rau is back. There is some talk from Gilbert and Rau (I think) about how they are cursed and the past can't come back - it's like all this is mixed in with what Kira and Rey are thinking. A brief cut shows Athrun handling Destiny's beam boomerangs easily. Kira says "That's wrong!" and takes out some more of Legend's DRAGOONs. Kira continues "Each life is separate/individual. So, that's why you are not him!" - Kira says this with a lot of intensity. Rey is shown looking rather shocked. Kira goes full beam spam and heavily damages Legend, and in the cockpit Rey takes damage.
Ad break.
Meanwhile, the Minerva has gotten behind the AA, and Murrue asks where Athrun is - he's stuck fighting Shinn. Mwu says he'll go and asks the remaining Murasame squad to come with him.
Meanwhile an angry Shinn fires Destiny's cannon at Justice, who safely blocks. Athrun yells at Shinn to stop fighting while being trapped in the past, which surprises both Shinn and Lunamaria. Athrun continues - even if you do that, nothing will come back (and has flashbacks of his mother and Nicole). Shinn shouts back angrily but Lunamaria looks a bit subdued. Athrun says "Are you going to go so far as to kill the future!?" (ie with the Destiny Plan), and Shinn goes wide-eyed. Athrun continues "Is THAT the power you wanted!?". Requiem (with beam shield around the cannon) is briefly shown being aligned with another relay point.
Shinn is getting really stressed, and has brief flashbacks of things he, Rey and Athrun said. He then charges forward very angrily preparing to use Destiny's palm cannon. Lunamaria suddenly puts herself in-between, telling both of them to stop fighting. Shinn continues to attack screaming incoherantly, and looks set to crush Impulse. Athrun then goes SEED mode.
Justice blocks the attack and Athrun screams at Shinn "You damn fool!!". Athrun goes full melee attack on Destiny and damages it very heavily. Destiny goes crashing down onto the Moon's surface. Lunamaria goes down to where Shinn is, and Athrun decides to leave.
Mwu is having trouble fighting against so many MS enemies. He yells at them why are they fighting to protect such a thing.
Minerva damages the AA a bit and the fight between them is getting intense. The AA does a "barrel roll" effectively (easy in space) and uses the Valiants to strike Minerva, damaging it heavily. Athrun turns up and uses Justice's launcher pack to take out all/most of Minerva's engines (cool move!). The Minerva goes crashing onto the Moon's surface.
The scene switches to Gilbert in Messiah. Station-2 (for Requiem) is almost in position. Gilbert orders the Neo GENESIS to target the Orb ships, and asks what's happened to Legend and Destiny. In Legend's cockpit, Rey is shown with blood on his face and a large hole in his helmet. Gilbert is told they've lost the signal to both MS. Freedom is approaching Messiah. Gilbert is surprised Rey was gotten too. In Legend's cockpit, Rey wakes up.
Gilbert comments that they really are a troublesome existance - Lacus Clyne and Kira Yamato, but that they'll have to leave finishing them off for later. Meanwhile, Kira takes a METEOR from Eternal (where they'd been since undocking in the previous ep). Rey slowly moves Legend towards Messiah.
Gilbert orders Neo GENESIS to fire at the Orb fleet, and a evacuate order is given to the ZAFT ships… but not really in time. Yzak tells the Eternal to get out of the way (since he still gets ZAFT communications) - Lacus is still in SEED mode btw. The AA, Justice and Akatsuki are okay from the blast, but some Nazca-class and others are hit - from the Orb fleet I think. However, some proper ZAFT ships are hit too and Talia is really shocked at this, as is Yzak and Deaka. Rey smiles.
A countdown to Requiem firing is given. Cagalli is shown in Orb, looking composed but tense.
The top of the Requiem cannon moves down to prepare to fire. Justice and Akatsuki charge forwards and both MS are able to pass through the barrier around it, with a bit of difficulty (I guess Justice's beam shield and Akatsuki's beam reflector stuff help neutralise Requiem's shield). Athrun uses Justice's lifter pack and Akatsuki uses the DRAGOONs to blow up the cannon, and then they escape from the explosion.
Meanwhile, Shinn is floating naked in space with his eyes closed. Stellar's voice is heard, and her ghost appears (like Fllay from SEED phase-50). Shinn says she shouldn't come to a place like this, and Stellar says she just wanted to see Shinn for a bit - for now. Shinn is surprised at the "for now", and Stellar says "see you again tomorrow", and Shinn says "tomorrow?" I can't quite figure out what Stellar says, but it's something like "I already have today, so I'm happy, so see you again tomorrow". Stellar leaves saying "see you tomorrow".
Impulse is shown next to Destiny on the Moon's surface as in the distance Requiem's cannon is blown up. Gilbert is shocked at this. The AA, Justice and Akatsuki are all okay. Lunamaria has taken Shinn out from Legend and he's sort of lying in her lap, asleep. Lunamaria is shocked at Requiem being blown up. Shinn wakes up saying "Stellar...?". Shinn opens his eyes to see Lunamaria and she hugs him happily. Shinn then notices the blown up Requiem blast. Lunamaria says that Orb wasn't hit, and Shinn wakes up a bit more at this.
Meanwhile, Kira uses METEOR's super beam saber to cut into Messiah a bit (how did he get past the shield?). SF and Eternal both start pounding on Messiah big time, now that the shield is gone. SF goes inside and goes full beam spam (with METEOR) from in there. The room in which Gilbert is in it hit. Shinn sees this and starts crying and hugs Lunamaria. He cries heavily and Lunamaria hugs him.
On the Minerva, Talia looks on. Talia orders the ship to be abandoned. On the AA, Murrue salutes the Minerva/Talia. Talia orders Athur to take care of everyone else - she has to go somewhere.
In Messiah, Kira walks into the room where Gilbert was. It's heavily damaged. As Kira walks towards the center, Gilbert swings he chair around and stands up. He says he never expected Kira to come here / to come this far. Kira points a gun at Gilbert, who says "I see, but are you sure about that?" and points a gun at Kira. Rey is running through Messiah. A shuttle carrying Talia heads into Messiah.
Gilbert tells Kira not to try, since the world will simply go to what it was like before (ie full of wars). Kira says "That may be so, but people can choose a different path". Gilbert says that won't happen, since people forget the mistakes of the past and repeat them. Gilbert says how could Kira possibly believe such a thing would actually happen - and says he (Kira) and Lacus couldn't say such a thing WILL happen, because they don't understand anything.
Rey appears behind a wall, behind Kira and Gilbert notices. Kira says he knows that too, but that's why they want a tomorrow - that a world without change would be horrible. This seems to affect Rey. Gilbert says Kira sure is concieted - just what he'd expect from the Ultimate Coordinator. Kira says that it's Gilbert who is concieted - he (Kira) is simply a single human, and everyone is the same, but that is why he (Kira) has to shoot Gilbert. As he's saying this, Talia walks into the room, carrying a gun, and notices Kira pointing a gun at Gilbert.
Gilbert then asks Kira which would people prefer - the world Gilbert wants or the current world. Kira says "I am prepared for that" and is about to shoot and Rey looks set to shoot too. Kira says "I will fight!" and a shot is heard.
Kira is shown looking shocked and surprised, as is Talia. Gilbert falls over with a large wound in his chest. It was Rey who shot Gilbert! He looks rather stressed and shocked that he did it. Rey starts crying. Talia walks over to where Gilbert is... while Messiah continues to fall apart.
In her lap, Gilbert looks up and says "Hi... Talia - were you the one who shot?" Talia says no - it was Rey. Rey is still crying and says "Sorry, but tomorrow is..." Kira seems uncertain about what to do and Talia points a gun at him and tells him to go - she'll take care of Gilbert's soul. Talia tells Kira to tell Murrue that - and that she has a child, a boy, and she hopes they meet someday. Kira says he understands and leaves. Gilbert looks up at Talia and apologies, but says that he's happy. Talia calls him hopeless (in a fond way), and says it couldn't be helped - since it's their destiny. Gilbert says to stop that (^-^).
Talia then calls Rey over. Meanwhile, Kira runs back and gets into SF. As everyone else (outside Messiah) looks on at the fortress falling apart, Talia hugs Rey and says "You did well... so it's okay." and Rey says "mother...".
Messiah starts collapsing in a major way and falls onto the moon's surface. Kira looks on from SF. Lunamaria and Shinn look on from near their MS. The end-song starts playing. Various scenes of beaten up MS and ship are shown. As the ED plays various clips from the series are shown in B&W. At the end, SF is seen launching and posing, and that's it.
The last frame shown is Impulse and Destiny beaten up with the text "Thank you".
So... instead of a "kill 'em all" ending, only Gilbert, Talia and Rey die. Everyone else (including the DOM pilots) are okay. The MS vs MS battles were nice and intense. Not quite sure what the title of this ep is refering to - maybe hope about tomorrow?
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50 was better than I expected since I have set my sights lower..
Well, the story is pretty open ended. Perfect for Series 3. I hope the [url=http://aeug.blogspot.com/2005_09_01_aeug_archive.html#112810043806858286
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Thank you for the spoiler Majek.
Well, compared to SEED, Destiny had less people dying in the last episode
which is a good thingAgain, following Seed, Destiny's ending does not tell much. Hopefully, the Special Episode StrawHatLuffy mention will cover this.
At the end of the series, I wonder, have Shinn actually learnt the meaning of 'forgive and forget'?My wishful thinking is that the special episode will cover Deakka & Millie :laugh: since they were quite forgotten in the series, though they showed up a lot in the beginning.
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haha What I want to know is what happens after this whole thing like the clarifying of the whole mastermind and answer all the questions we have..
So Rey is Talia's son!? The only possibility is that he is her adopted son or something.
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So Rey is Talia's son!? The only possibility is that he is her adopted son or something.
Well I kind of realized that, when they first showed Rey's flashback and you could see Talia with a kid, since the kid looked like Rey.
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Well I kind of realized that, when they first showed Rey's flashback and you could see Talia with a kid, since the kid looked like Rey.
I was wondering about that then but we couldn't determine for sure though…
Kinda wierd that Talia didn't show any sign of affection towards Rey throughout the whole series.. or Was I not looking closely enough?
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Kinda wierd that Talia didn't show any sign of affection towards Rey throughout the whole series.. or Was I not looking closely enough?
Maybe some affectionate eyes now or then in the anime thats barely visible to the naked eye.
But when I first realized that Talia could have been Rey's mother (before I found out about Rey's past) I thought to myself wow Talia and Dulindial got married or something and had Rey.
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Wow, best GSD ep ever, too bad it doesn't amount to the entire series which was screwed, and worse, both Luna and Shinn lived, I would've found it better that they died, and that Rey lived….
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Wow, best GSD ep ever, too bad it doesn't amount to the entire series which was screwed, and worse, both Luna and Shinn lived, I would've found it better that they died, and that Rey lived….
Yah Shinn was never my favourite character, his constant whinnings really drove me to dislike him. I just wished him and Kira would of killed each other in battle so they are both gone. I never really liked Kira, he was just too rigged for me, even though he's the superior cordinator.
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Talia isn't Rey mother, but she acted like one cause he needed one. or so i got it.
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Talia isn't Rey mother, but she acted like one cause he needed one. or so i got it.
That would be possible. But I am still more convinced about the "adopted son" thing.
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Could be that Talia is Rey's foster mother…well,this was a pretty good ep!
Shinn....is a whiny crybaby as always.
Hopefully the ending will open up for a new series.
And SHL,are you happy that Kids Central is showing GSD now in English?
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Not exactly… I don't feel anything... I didn't watch it this morning so I couldn't tell if it's good or not. I don't think I will watch it again since I'm not so into this series now.
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Its pretty good with all the original VA's…
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so will anybody wait for the Destiny OVA nad actually hope it'll tell anything new? ( ETA is ibelieve end February next year)
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i believe it's in Feb, and yes, i'll be waiting, or… i'll forget it...
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Crap, that long!? :glare:
Well, I don't think I can even remember much about the series then seeing now that all I care for is Bleach. hohoho
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Well, we can all say thanks. thanks Fukuda, We, inculding you, are all screwed.
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I don't know if anyone asked this yet but is Cartoon Network planning to finish the story? I mean when I watched it there were people exploding in like every episode. XD
I'm only up to episode 3 in Gundam Seed Destiny. I just can't really get into the same story line cept for that its the Earth Forces this time and not Zaft.
But I am curious as to who the guy in the mask is… I mean Cruze is dead so this raises a lot of questions!
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I'm only up to episode 3 in Gundam Seed Destiny. I just can't really get into the same story line cept for that its the Earth Forces this time and not Zaft.
Actually the first part of Destiny should be based on the Zaft side, not the Earth side. Unless you meant that this time its the Earth forces are are attacking now instead of Zaft.
But I am curious as to who the guy in the mask is… I mean Cruze is dead so this raises a lot of questions!
You'll just have to find out, cause seriously that just ruins the fun of the storyline if we spoil you now.
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So I'm guessing Gundam Seed is coming back to Cartoon Network? Since Gundam Seed Destiny is licenced.
Yeah I meant that its Earth Attacking. You would figure after 50 colonies and 157833054892.2 people being destroyed that both sides would quit making gundams! XD
But I will watch it. Just like the last Gundam Seed it just has some kind of force that makes me want to bindge on it.
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But don't have your hopes too high. I was utterly disappointed.
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Am I the only one not disappointed in this series?
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BTW,does anyone have the new english Gundam Seed game called Gundam Seed Never Ending Tomorrow?
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damn bad series and there is no closure wtf what happened to all the characters grrrrrrrrrrr
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I hear the next SEED is Gundam SEED Eternity
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I hear the next SEED is Gundam SEED Eternity
Really? I've not seen news report of it yet.
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Hmm… never mind about that.
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Watched the Dub today on TV. Hm, I must say the dub isn't that bad. It even comes in dual sound!! XD Damn it, if only my parents read carefully when they bought the TV, i would have been able to switch the sound. But anyway, I managed to get through the whole episode with the dub.
The subtitles were… okay I guess, they don't match with what the voices are saying. Kid Central cut out parts of the OP, probably because of the semi nudity there or probably because they didn't have enough time.
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Most probably because of the semi nudity.
But I wonder why they didn't cut out the nude scenes in GS and the final ep with Flay… -
hmm… not sure if it's worth bringing back this topic, but Final Phase Plus is out. It provides a bit more info to the ending.
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yeah but it doesn't make Destiny any better. and it's funny to see Athrun on Messiah for no reason at all :laugh:
