Only for them to use them again 10 years later:whistling:
Katekyo Hitman REBORN! Discussion
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Which will be like how many volumes chapters later
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what would really suck if they decided to stay in the future.
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Annoying filler?!
This was ORIGINALLY a comedy manga. It got changed to action fighting to please people like you. (no offense meant)
I thought the original comedy about mafia was 50 X better than this. But this certainly isn't bad.
It got stupid when the boxes arrived though, I mean, to the point where I just don't know what the hell is going on anymore….
Gokudera's dynamite was used in creative ways that I loved. I would've loved to see more development on it. Fights should have been more like this the whole time:
http://www.onemanga.com/Katekyo_Hitman_Reborn/64/15/
now it's just flame this and flame that… :/
at least she keeps the comedy though. Although the varia aren't funny, and they never were...
I don't think it was changed per say. I think it was leading up to something greater. about it being a comedy, I can't agree while it has it funny moments I never thought it was funny enough to be just a comedy manga, it always had the underlying shonen adventure theme. Not only that but to be honest, I'm not a huge shonen fan I actually pretty much just like OP and KHR. Other wise im strictly shojo or mech
The box thing is kinda stupid it takes away the flare that used to be in the fights.
I feel like it is almost becoming a monster adventure time story, with all these box animals and all.
In the mean time does anyone know why we havent seen reborn yet this week.
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new chapter out on onemanga and a big surprise at the end
! apparently bel failed to kill his twin brother jill
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! No he really killed him. they just cloned Bel and dressed the clone up as Jill and pretend that it really is his brother. or maybe its from a paralell dimension. or a REALLY good cosplayer. =P
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! I bet he's also storm attribute. now only one funeral wrath that's unknown and if jill actually really does use storm the only one left is cloud. oh yeah the storm mink looks kinda like bel.
Edit: look at iris ring in this picture I think it's a mare ring
http://www.onemanga.com/Katekyo_Hitman_Reborn/204/14/
if the link doesn't work it's in page 14 of chapter 204 on the bottom in the middle on the middle finger of the hand that's holding the whip (to be exact).
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who the hell is jill…
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New Chapter out. Not much happened. it's made me realize that reborn is kinda slow-paced. No where near as bad as Bleach though and at any rate the action should start next week. We see Levi and Lussuria's box animals though. 3 guesses to what Lussuria's is. Oh and Fran were awesomely funny on how he analyzed the situation. The way Bel described killing his brother in such a humorous way was chortling too.
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Man… Skipping chapters weekly and reading them in bulk does not seem to speed up the pacing for me... I bet it's pretty painful to read this weekly. Anyways, I have some small catching up to do.
I do agree that Gokudera is losing his original style a bit. So much goood potential. I wished he remained like Tsuna or Yamamoto and refined their original fighting styles. When I look at him now compared to back then, it seems like he's not improving much at all. Can't say much for Habari... I kinda like his future style because he did not seem that special before...Maybe that's bad memory of me...
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Man… Skipping chapters weekly and reading them in bulk does not seem to speed up the pacing for me... I bet it's pretty painful to read this weekly. Anyways, I have some small catching up to do.
I do agree that Gokudera is losing his original style a bit. So much goood potential. I wished he remained like Tsuna or Yamamoto and refined their original fighting styles. When I look at him now compared to back then, it seems like he's not improving much at all. Can't say much for Habari... I kinda like his future style because he did not seem that special before...Maybe that's bad memory of me...
Hey, I put up with Bleach and Berserk. Compared to that, Reborn is a walk in the park.
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Just wondering are there still people out there who are continuing subbing KHR anime?
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new chapter is out and nothing really happens except a couple of the other varia's box weapons are shown. Lussuria has a peacock and Levi-A-Thon has a sting ray. I still think squalo and his shark box weapon are awesome.
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Reborn sucks now guys. The stupid twist about Irie is like the final nail in the coffin for me. I don't know why the author keeps on insisting that he/she fill the screen with lame effects that make the fight "unfollowable" (was that a real word?). That this arc has gone on this long just shows how the author has no idea where the hell he/she is going with this story. Reborn got too popular for its own good!!
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I believe that happens to alot of authors.
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I believe that happens to alot of authors.
Yeah but if I remember correctly not in this manga, at least before this whole future arc bullshit. So yah I used to really like this series and I'm a bit disappointed right now :(
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I pretty much agree that most of these fights are extremly hard to follow. I did not expect most of them to be worst than Lambo vs(rooftop ring battle).
I feel like reading through the earlier life chapters now, since I skipped like 30 of them for the ring battles.
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I'm just getting bored. The boxes are really fucking complicated.
And I don't care about the varia. They sucked from the get go. >_>
Squalo was okay, and the prince was fine, but everyone else's personalities are terrible.
and Hiroy, you should go read the beginning. It's funny as heck for the most part.
Before the whole "Reborn isn't really a baby part of the story" was introduced, it was super hilarious.
Reborn: This bianchi, she's a poison specialist.
Tsuna: W-what?
Reborn: She's also my lover.
Tsuna: Do you realize what you just said?!
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Reborn sucks now guys. The stupid twist about Irie is like the final nail in the coffin for me. I don't know why the author keeps on insisting that he/she fill the screen with lame effects that make the fight "unfollowable" (was that a real word?). That this arc has gone on this long just shows how the author has no idea where the hell he/she is going with this story. Reborn got too popular for its own good!!
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I don't get what's confusing about the fights, do you guys not understand the whole dying will flame thing to be honest I've enjoyed this arc a little I to begin with was already getting bored with Gokudera just throwing dynamite.. I mean true t6hey added a few too many boxes for him but I like it. Yamamoto just has a stronger sword and a swallow who makes rain so he can always fight like he did against squallo. Ryohei just heals faster (if you just ignore the kangaroo he's pretty much the same). Hibari's got hedgehogs that can get a tad bit annoying, and chrome hasn't changed a bit. Although I don't like the whole changing bel's main weapon into a box weapon just a tad bit dumb but the electric umbrella guy (Levi A Than) needed something because he was a tad bit boring (actually his fighting style is quite dumb). and squallo's shark better not be used to much but that's about that…. But if they touch XanxusI will not be happy. I do admit Gokudera's fight with Gamma was a little confusing but when I reread the abilities of each flame and figured out he just mixed storm flame with one of the other four dying will flame rings he had with him it gets easier, Mainly you just have to know the flames properties.
Sky: Enhancement The ability of the sky flames is to enhance things or substances.
Rain: Tranquillity The ability to weaken flames, things or substances.
Cloud: Propagation The ability to increase the mass of biological material.
Storm: Degeneration The ability to disintegrate flames and substances.
Thunder: Solidification The ability to harden/sharpen flames acts like electricity.
Sun: Activation The ability to speed up or start processes.
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It's still overly complicated art, with an overcomplicated battle system.
REBORN! has seen better days, and it's not even that popular with the Japanese anymore. It's lower-mid tier in the ratings, usually hovering around Psyren and Nurahiyon. Maybe with all these good new additions this year, Reborn will be ending soon, because I can't see this going anywhere after Byakuran's defeat.
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How is the battle system over complicated?
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I don't get what's confusing about the fights, do you guys not understand the whole dying will flame thing to be honest I've enjoyed this arc a little I to begin with was already getting bored with Gokudera just throwing dynamite.. I mean true t6hey added a few too many boxes for him but I like it. Yamamoto just has a stronger sword and a swallow who makes rain so he can always fight like he did against squallo. Ryohei just heals faster (if you just ignore the kangaroo he's pretty much the same). Hibari's got hedgehogs that can get a tad bit annoying, and chrome hasn't changed a bit. Although I don't like the whole changing bel's main weapon into a box weapon just a tad bit dumb but the electric umbrella guy (Levi A Than) needed something because he was a tad bit boring (actually his fighting style is quite dumb). and squallo's shark better not be used to much but that's about that…. But if they touch XanxusI will not be happy. I do admit Gokudera's fight with Gamma was a little confusing but when I reread the abilities of each flame and figured out he just mixed storm flame with one of the other four dying will flame rings he had with him it gets easier, Mainly you just have to know the flames properties.
Sky: Enhancement The ability of the sky flames is to enhance things or substances.
Rain: Tranquillity The ability to weaken flames, things or substances.
Cloud: Propagation The ability to increase the mass of biological material.
Storm: Degeneration The ability to disintegrate flames and substances.
Thunder: Solidification The ability to harden/sharpen flames acts like electricity.
Sun: Activation The ability to speed up or start processes.
Mist: Construction The ability to build an illusion out of flames.Dude it isn't the stupid box explanations and shit that is confusing about the fights. It's that it's hard to follow. When crappy flame effects cover 90% of the panel and you can't even tell which character is which anymore because of them being crappily drawn yah it can get pretty damn frustrating to follow the fights. Plus all these boxes are pretty crap anyways since their use is pretty inconsistent, like this is how they fight in the future but Tsuna doesn't even use one??
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It's Gokudera fight that f'd things up. Like chopper man said.
That whole Gamma fight where he started spewing "this flame is weak against this flame" blew my mind. O_o
I don't the chain of weaknesses, and I don't really feel like rereading 5 chapters of text to understand it.
But it's constantly being forced down my throat. Since we see so many gasps.
And I don't get how Gokudera's fights with dynamite were boring. They were pretty awesome IMO.
The only thing I hated was no one died. :ninja:
I mean, come on, he hit people in the face!
anywho, the complication comes from the weaknesses and the animals, but I got the jist of most of it. All this talk of the said flames however make fights lose their "momentum". The intimidating factor shouldn't be the "flame or purple", that I could care less about.
maybe it's the enemies aren't evil or don't captivate my emotion. I don't feel anything. It's just flame this and flame that.
Xanxus, he did bad ass stuff. He said bad ass things. He didn't care about flames because they didn't matter. He was a VILLAIN. These future guys? not at all.
I don't feel as on edge anymore, but I can't say I know why…
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Well i believe for different people its just different opinion.
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I personally find the box weapons to be neat and interesting, at least the animals "look" like actual animals. Amano just could of made up a bunch of creatures, hell we could of had a life like geodude.
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The animals represent the box users "coincidentally", which I think is neat.
Except for the Kyoya Hibari one, I don't think he's a porcupine at all. Unless they mean, if you try to touch him, you'll get hurt…
I wonder what Tsuna's animal is. Probably a giant Tuna fish....
Bel's animal fits him a little too well.
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It's Gokudera fight that f'd things up. Like chopper man said.
That whole Gamma fight where he started spewing "this flame is weak against this flame" blew my mind. O_o
I don't the chain of weaknesses, and I don't really feel like rereading 5 chapters of text to understand it.
But it's constantly being forced down my throat. Since we see so many gasps.
And I don't get how Gokudera's fights with dynamite were boring. They were pretty awesome IMO.
The only thing I hated was no one died. :ninja:
I mean, come on, he hit people in the face!
anywho, the complication comes from the weaknesses and the animals, but I got the jist of most of it. All this talk of the said flames however make fights lose their "momentum". The intimidating factor shouldn't be the "flame or purple", that I could care less about.
maybe it's the enemies aren't evil or don't captivate my emotion. I don't feel anything. It's just flame this and flame that.
Xanxus, he did bad ass stuff. He said bad ass things. He didn't care about flames because they didn't matter. He was a VILLAIN. These future guys? not at all.
I don't feel as on edge anymore, but I can't say I know why…
agree and Xanxus character design and zero point breakthrough, hell the whole fight was really good
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I personally find the box weapons to be neat and interesting, at least the animals "look" like actual animals. Amano just could of made up a bunch of creatures, hell we could of had a life like geodude.
Yeah I agree the box animals are pretty cool I think I actually like this arc a lot and I think people are underestimating how big a fan base it has… someone said it would end soon but I haevn't heard any detail describing this last I heard it was still getting more and more popular
The animals represent the box users "coincidentally", which I think is neat.
Except for the Kyoya Hibari one, I don't think he's a porcupine at all. Unless they mean, if you try to touch him, you'll get hurt…
I wonder what Tsuna's animal is. Probably a giant Tuna fish....
Bel's animal fits him a little too well.
I hope tsuna doesn't get a box weapon but I'm sure he will… hmmmm maybe a lion with his mane being made up of the sky flame that might be cool
I hope the past Ryohei comes to the future soon too
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The animals represent the box users "coincidentally", which I think is neat.
I wonder what Tsuna's animal is.
Giant Clam, duh. He's the Vongola head, so it would be the most logical thing.
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The animals represent the box users "coincidentally", which I think is neat.
Except for the Kyoya Hibari one, I don't think he's a porcupine at all. Unless they mean, if you try to touch him, you'll get hurt…
I wonder what Tsuna's animal is. Probably a giant Tuna fish....
Bel's animal fits him a little too well.
I always found Hibari's box animal to be a weird choice for him but the fact that he skewered someone by punching that person onto the hedgehog's spines more than compensates for me:P
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the thing i'm the most interested in is the hell rings. I thought it was bad ass how the hell ring phantom knight used transformed himself. I am rather curious as to what varia's new mist users hell ring can do.
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Guys what is the difference between mare ring and hell ring and why do the bad guys have like two rings?? Like why couldn't the mare ring do what the hell ring does what is the need for two rings??
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Guys what is the difference between mare ring and hell ring and why do the bad guys have like two rings?? Like why couldn't the mare ring do what the hell ring does what is the need for two rings??
Mare rings are a set of rings whose power are on par with the Vongola rings.The Mare rings are originally from the Gigilo Nero Family.
As for the hell rings there are only 6 in the world. Currently Genkishi has 1( the one with the ghostly figure), Fran has 1( the one with the 666) and future Mukuro has 2(the ones with eyeball and plant vines). They are of the mist attribute. The hell rings are discovered even before the dying will flames are discovered. The user of the Hell rings makes a contract with the rings and in return the users are bestowed great power. Its like selling your soul to the Hell rings and in return get more power.Oh and talking about mare rings i am really disappointed in the mare rings design. In a black and white manga how are suppose to tell one from the other, other then the Sky Mare ring. Wonder if they do get the mare rings mixed up.
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So, a quick question: Have they told us the age of everyone in the future, excluding those from the past?
My guesses are:
Lal Mirch: Early - Mid 30's
Giannini: Mid 20's
Varia: varying, probably early 30's for all of them.
Irie: Mid 20's
Byakuran: Mid - Late 20's
Bianchi: 27
Ryohei: 25-26I'm probably horribly wrong on most of those, though.
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I don't recall any ages being mentioned during this arc. I'm guessing all the vongola guardians were around there early to late 20 except Lambo who would be 14 I think.
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SPOILERS
! new chapters out xanxus is back!!!!!!!!! wooh I'm excited I bet he kicks ass in the next chapter oh yeah butler has like 3 or 4 rain elephants and jill has storm bats and fran never opens his box :sad: anyways get ready for xanxus next week… oh yeah we have to wait till 2 weeks :sad: but the next chapter will be awsome I can feel it
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That Onemanga translation is messed up. "Varia is a never-changing group of fail." That's… different.
And we don't get to see Fran's Box weapon. Ah well. Was kinda expecting it to be Fantasma. I mean, just because Viper's dead doesn't mean his pet is, right? Leon might still be around too, somewhere...
Xanxus is gonna kick some ass and some faces in. Mainly, Jill's smug one.
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Am I the only one pissed off that Fran and Bel got beat so easily?
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It's an excuse for Xanxus to come and rape some face, really.
Fran confused me though, when he talked about removing his hat. Was it him or Bel saying that removing his hat would kill him? If that's indeed what they said, does that mean that Bel is a failed Arcobaleno like Lal, and the only thing keeping him alive is that Frog hat?
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@Fire Fist:
It's an excuse for Xanxus to come and rape some face, really.
Fran confused me though, when he talked about removing his hat. Was it him or Bel saying that removing his hat would kill him? If that's indeed what they said, does that mean that Bel is a failed Arcobaleno like Lal, and the only thing keeping him alive is that Frog hat?
No bel wants fran to keep the hat on in memory of viper… it's more of a gag they want him to keep the hat on for life but he absolutely hates it so he used the posing thing as a reason to take the hat off in which bel said he'll kill him if he does and that he'll always wear that hat no matter what.
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Yeah, after reading the other chapters, It makes more sense now, though it seems silly they'd make him wear a giant frog hat. If they really wanted to humiliate him, make him wear Mammon's pacifier (The Millifore is missing two, right? I'd assume Viper's, which Varia would still have, and Colonello's, which Lal Mirch now has. The future Reborn would have his taken by them, I would guess…), or a replica of it. The hat just seems to get in the way.
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any one else feel kinda let down by this chapter? It was good I just expected more of it….
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Couldnt even read this chapter just skimmed every page. Took me like 10 secs to find the actual mink on the first page…i really dont give a shit about the pokeman fight. I just want it to get back to Tsuna so they can finish up this arc
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Am I the only one pissed off that Fran and Bel got beat so easily?
Well i believe that Bel will get up soon and continue his fight with Jill, but then again it could be Xanxus VS Jill though. Amano could keep up with the mysterious-Fran ( well to us ) by making Fran not fighting in this whole raid.
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I've been waiting for XANXUS to kick some ass and now we have to wait 2 weeks in order to see him "kick some ass".
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I just saw a clip of the anime where Tsuna meets Spanner.
Is the anime that ridiculously close to the manga already?