pretty good adaptation, well animated, my only nitpick is that in the manga Kaidou charged at luffy and luffy couldn't even react while in G4, which i thought was shocking at the time considering luffy's speed and Kaido's size and all, but tanking a king kong gun and countering with his own attack was nice as well, Toei is doing pretty good with this arc overrall
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RE: 915: ''Destruction! The Thunder Bagua One-Shot!''
RE: Chapter 935: Queen
just complementing some thoughts here, Douriki did measured someone physical capabilities only, but that means EVERY physical capabilities not just "pure strength", and we all know that the usual strats about zoro and sanji in terms of "physical capabilities is that zoro is stronger and more durable while sanji is faster, if we compare it to Jyabura and Kaku to make an argument about Oda evaluating sanji and zoro's overall "physical capabilities" through them, the fact that their douriki was somehow balanced makes sense
and Lucci was overrall physically superior compared to Jyabura and kaku tbh…
I have no idea what you were saying for half of that but I agree about Lucchi being twice what Kaku and Jyabura were at was probably more absurd than the fact that Zoro had enough brute strength to break through Kaku's Tekkai while Sanji had to use an elemental move to bypass it on Jyabura.
Sanji was able to do some damage but his struggle was mostly because Jyabura was a tekkai specialist, he was the only one that could move while using tekkai, or at least… the only that was shown doing it, but anyway... we are comparing slashes with kicks... so... them being elemental moves are fair :ninja:
RE: Chapter 923: Emperor Kaidou VS Luffy
to Jack's credit, Shuttemaru seems pretty strong right now, by having Kaidou's respect and etc, for the strawhats i still see him as a big threat
RE: Chapter 923: Emperor Kaidou VS Luffy
Kaidou taking luffy down was a bit expected, but… he speed-blitzed him in G4… like... damn...
RE: One Piece Chapter 882: Outside of a Yonko’s expectations
Oda is odly consistent with luffy's speed somehow, it's always annoying for villians even at this stage in the series, i thought the fight with cracker would make his base form completely useless, i mean, yes… luffy has to rely on a new form, but he is still not 100% done before it, it's nice to see he can still react really well even by being clearly overwhelmed by katakuri's OP kenbun
but dispite Katakuri being as powerfull as he is, i'm still giving G4 the benefit of the doubt... just because, well... it's hasn't been phisically challenged yet (outside of BM of course), strategically? yes, with Cracker, but Cracker's Akuma no mi is very defensive, Katakuri's tho... not so much, i'm curious to see what he's gonna do, G4 is an overrall ridiculous buff
RE: One Piece Chapter 879:One of Big Mom's Three Sweet Commanders, Katakuri.
I'm still trying make sense of how that's supposed to be logically consistent. I guess you could say that Culverin moving in such straight and rigid directions still counts as not being fully elastic, which I like to believe.
Pretty much, i mean, i does seem like luffy was using the compressed air inside him to move his arm and change it's directions accordingly, kinda similar to an air soft gun (a little bit, juuust a little bit) as if it was the only way he could "stretch" it for longer distances
i think it's safe to assume G4 is not as elastic
RE: Chapter 871: "Go Caesar!"
His body was fatiqued , but his bones are still healthy. However, when he was fighting Vergo , who wasn't becoming full-hardened , got his legs brokens which
shows Vergo got stronger CoA. Then…..Vergo w/full CoA got OHKO by Law (so .... Sanji doesn't always fight the strongest unbeatable enemy , right?)
Sanji didn't know Doflamingo's power and neither Doflamingo knew Sanji's power. It would not be a fair match for Doflamingo by the way if Sanji had known his skill (this is a fair match 1 vs 1 ,right?) .
I put "surprise attack by Carrot's movement" because surprise attacks in OP can become deadly , e.g. : WB got stabbed by Squad because he was careless. Meanwhile , all atacks (from Dofla/Vergo/Genie guy) coming to Sanji are always expected by Sanji , and those attacks overpowered him.
Guess what , by the way , Sanji actually is one of my fav characters , but I do acknowledge that current Sanji is pretty much a punching bag for strong characters.
I also didn't complain. In the beginning, I was just replying to your post (this is a forum to discuss One Piece manga ,isn't it?).
"his body was fati…" not really... the dude's body took an explosion right to his face and he remained wounded until the fight against Vergo, he even mentioned that he had felt Nami's punch because of his body conditions, and by the way, taking an explosion will clearly mess up with your body including bones, Sanji clearly wasn't at 100%, and about haki, Oda already said that Sanji's especiality is CoO, not CoA, so yeah Vergo has better CoA... so what?, it's not the only factor in a fight, Sanji clearly had the speed advantage in that match, and yes he lacked endurance, which can be perfectly explained by the state of his body at the time... but somehow people refuse to acknowledge this, because it goes against their own agendas i guess...
"doflamingo didn't know sanji's power" lol, what power? sanji is not a devil fruit user, he is a fighter that can fly... you don't need high level preparation for this style of fight, however with Doflamingo you need, Law and Luffy came into that match with full awareness of Doflamingo's powers, Sanji did not, you can't compare advanced fighting skills and hability to fly with an akuma no mi user dude, it's an entirely different scenario, a high skilled fighter like idk Zoro or Jinbe could lose to freaking sugar by not knowing what kind of power she has, this is not DBZ... where its all power levels and KI, sometimes akuma no mis are a big factor and you have to be prepared. Not many people remember that, but on enies lobby zoro lost to a random dude who had the power to rust metal (the anime stretched that scene, but it exists in the manga), does it mean that Zoro was weaker than a ranodm marine comander at that point? NOPE, but it means the he got caught off guard by an strange hability, and he could die because of it, because fights in one piece # fights in DBZ, especially depending of the type of akuma no mi someone uses, so YES Sanji's lack of knowledge on Doflamingo's hability was a factor in that match.
But the thing is man... every time you mention the "genie guy", you are missing the MAIN POINT of my argument, that is "random exchanges or shots doesn't indicate a character's real strength", because it is not the way Oda works, and you and other people are judging sanji for being a fodder, based on that and not in a HONEST, without distrations, without chaotic enviroment, 1 vs 1 fight, like Zoro had with Pica, like Luffy had With doflamingo, like Law had with Doflamingo, which is the moment where Oda reaally showcases the characters strength, and i gave examples of how misleading those random exchanges can be while judging a character's real strength (Yeti cool brothers, carrot's attack) i can go on and on with that, Marineford random fights... like Doflamingo and Crocodile (actually Crocodile's entire participation in that arc), Marco's first exchange with Kizaru and etc... but somehow Sanji not being focused in a 1 on 1 fight against the guy, is not a factor for you, but Zoro not being prepared by carrot's attack is... you see... it's not the FEAT i'm talking about it here, it's ODA'S NARRATIVE, with Zoro you look at the context and give your explanation, but with sanji you completely ignore the context and judge the guy's strenght based on that... it's a clear case of double standards.
And again... yes Oda hasn't show Sanji shining in fights, but he still didn't put him in a 1 on 1 fight that is a focal point of an arc either, like Luffy vs Doflaming was, and especially not against someone that is not totally beyond his level (like Doflamingo, BM's crew), the only exception for this is the Vergo's fight, which i've already explained that it's mostly overreaction by part of the fandom... so concluding once again... complaining about Oda not giving him fights or moments to shine is FAIR, TOTALLY FAIR, JUDGING HIM BY BEING WEAK without looking at the context IS NOT... it's simple... really.
RE: Chapter 871: "Go Caesar!"
Sanji fought Doflamingo 1 on 1 and he lost in 3 pages (Doflamingo wasn't even using his best arsenals) .
Sanji fought 1 on 1 against Vergo and his legs got broken (Sanji then said something like "Ughhh , if the match kept continuing ,then …" )
Yeti Cool Brothers are actually great. They tricked Sanji/Zoro into sleeping gas and almost killed them.
I know Oda often used hypes to new characters , which is why I said Sanji is always used as fodder (for new characters) .
Zoro got surprised by Carrot's movement which is inhuman but it's just a surprise attack .
Sanji expected upcoming attack from genie (so it's not a surprise attack) and tried to defend against genie's attack , then turned out genie's is stronger.
Sanji PTS is a cool gentleman with grand entrance on his fight. Current Sanji is a dumb pervert who can be beaten in 3 pages. (It's like Zoro absorbed all the coolness from Sanji and put it inside himself)
LOL, "zoro got surprised by carrot's movement" wow, so this is an actual factor that we should considerate to not downplay zoro, but Sanji's body being damaged before Vergo's fight (he felt NAMI'S PUNCH), and Sanji not having ANY idea of Doflamingo's hability beforehand IS NOT, lmao…
not to mention that Doflamingo is a beast, he destroyed Law and was easily dealing with G2 luffy, until he got his organs F'ed up by Law's attack, not to mention that whole fight happened while he was using the bird cage in the entire city, but none of this counts as an argument i suppose, but "being surprised by carrots movement, poor zoro" is... smh
"yeti cool brothers are great" we're talking about character's strenght here, NOT if they are likable or not, and the thing is they were heavily hyped before the fight with Luffy and Franky, and everyone misjudged their actual strenght because, like always... the THRIST to talk about power levels are TOO STRONG, that people judge a characters strenght in one or 2 panels without context, and without knowing Oda's way of doing work
and again... he barely fought with the guy, he was trying to defend himself and running away to save his family, not a 1 on 1 fight, but none of this counts of course, but "getting surprised by carrot's movement" obviously does lol
look, it's ok to dislike the character, you can hate all you want, i'm not the biggest fan either, but up until this point he didn't have an actual 1 on 1 Full focused fight, like Zoro had with Pica for ex, just some exchanges here and there, sometimes in chaotic situations that doesn't mean a thing, and sometimes against characters that he shouldn't beat because it would be against Oda's logic (Doflamingo, BM's crew and etc)
it's ALL OVERREACTION
the only thing, that i agree with is that Oda doesn't like to put Zoro in unfavorable situations as of late, but instead of looking into the context of those moments and THEM JUDGE people would rather blindly judge and take things out of context... to summ it up, is TS Sanji NOT shining at fights? yes he is not, does it make him weak? NOPE, because he is being put in situations that he shouldn't win, that's on ODA, NOT ON SANJI, complain all you want about Oda not letting him have fair fights without distractions, but don't judge his real strength because of it, it's 2 different things
RE: Chapter 871: "Go Caesar!"
I was talking about when he fought the genie guy. He clearly was fighting one on one and losing the match.
I hate to say this, but Sanji is kinda get retconned by Oda since timeskip. He is now just like Kakashi from Naruto.
but we didn't see an actual 1 on 1 fight between them, it was just some random shots here and there, and by the way sanji wasn't even trying to fight, he was running away to get to his family, and trying to defend himself
with all the respect but sometimes i think you guys are a bit thristy to judge the characters strength based on some random shots or exchange of hits, and Oda has shown PLENTY OF TIMES that this is not the how he wants to really showcase the character's real strength… i'm gonna give some examples
remember the Yeti Cool Brothers?, before they got easily beaten by Luffy and Franky (on Chopper's body), they were portrayed as super tough guys, they were basically speed blitzing Luffy and doing whatever they wanted, people assumed they were OP at the time... and them when it was the time for them to fight in a real battle, without distractions, they got fodderized
it's basically the same thing when freaking CARROT dodged Zoro's attack and made him struggle for a moment at the beggining of Zou, does it mean that Carrot is as strong as zoro or Zoro is as weak as carrot? NO, this is just exchange of hits and that's it, Oda sometimes uses them to give hype for some characters, or in chaotic situations like the entire Marineford arc lol, but when he REALLY wants to showcase someone's REAL strength he does it in a full focused 1 on 1 match with an actual context, or a big purpose for the plot
we didn't have ANY of that for sanji, when sanji has an actual 1 ON 1 FIGHT without ANY distractions, a full Focused 1 on 1 and he LOSES, them you guys talk about his lack of strength or whatever...
RE: Chapter 871: "Go Caesar!"
i can understand that Oda is not giving him moments to shine, while giving Zoro's, but… he is giving Zoro's weaker oponents and Sanji OP ones, i mean it's ok to complain about Oda not giving Sanji moments to shine
BUT the problem is people JUDGING him from being weak, when he is being put in situations where he CAN'T win, while Zoro IS NOT, if people really want to judge the characters strength they have to take into consideration the oponents they are facing