Well, Toei has been handling the flashback very well so far. The pacing has been pretty damn good.
Takeuchi fits perfectly as Sabo. Brilliant casting decision on their part.
Well, Toei has been handling the flashback very well so far. The pacing has been pretty damn good.
Takeuchi fits perfectly as Sabo. Brilliant casting decision on their part.
Shirahoshi rejecting Decken was great. The Sea Forest should be interesting with so many characters heading in that direction. I hope we see them arriving soon.
It's quite obvious now that the real villains of the arc have yet to be revealed.
So, Aokiji helps the Straw Hats cause massive devastation to the world? That makes perfect sense.
Glad to know that according to this theory, Chopper completely fails in his dreams, too. Also, that everyone who mocked Sanji and told him the All Blue wasn't real were actually right. That would be quite like Oda to do.
I don't see what the problem with the flashbacks is. They made sense in the context of what was going on. I think this episode was handled really well. I also thought the bit where they showed all of the characters at the end of the war was really well done.
Now, the trick will be what Toei is going to do from here.
It would certainly be nice to get One Piece back on TV, wherever it was. From what I've heard, it sounds like Nicktoons edits are a lot better than those on Toonzai, so that would also be a plus.
im pretty dissapointed that FI story is so swallow
its just like Arabasta with less storyline with those wanting to overthrow the kingor like in thriller with absalom being dekken
tch tch tch oda oda oda
give us some more juice!i bet there is some yonkou coming or some supernova under one
The arc is still pretty early on, though. I also don't think it's really that similar to those other story arcs. The only similarity with Arabasta is that you have a group of rebels, but that's not really much of a similarity at all.
There's been a fair amount happening in the past few chapters, and I think things will start to become clearly over the next few months.
With a poneglyph being in the area, things are definitely picking up, and it seems like this arc is still just in its infancy. I'm sure that the real antagonists of the arc haven't even been introduced yet.
This was definitely a pretty good chapter, with revelations into a lot of different characters. This arc is really starting to shape up into something special.
@Sonic:
Another thing I've been wondering about is:
The pirates who attacked Brooks former pirate clan "The Rumba Pirates", was it maybe Van Der Decken!?
I mean, arrows, amarite? And Brook seemed very scared everytime Van Der Deckens name was mentioned in these latest chapters.
That would be an interesting twist. Not to mention, it would actually give Brook reason to be something other than a walking punchline for once, which would be nice.
Shirahoshi? Joining? Atm no, yes she has contact with Luffy. Yes, she feels like having adventure, true what Aohige said that both Female Straw Hats had something horrible happening with their mother.
But as far as I know of Shira hasn't said anything about seeing her mother die. I will wait next chapter to see what happens, but Shira seems, well not likely. For once cause she can't walk. And she is the size of a giant. So yes I hope most Shirahoshi fanboys are just trolling >:
I wouldn't consider myself a Shirahoshi fan, but I consider her the most likely to join right now just because of those reasons. There's at least some evidence there, but that could easily be a red herring on Oda's part. I'm not sure why people feel the need to treat that speculation as ridiculous, though. Perona speculation was stupid. Shirahoshi speculation seems perfectly logical based on the last 2-3 chapters.
Yeah, I kind of have the feeling that Shirahoshi will join. She wants to see the world outside of what she's been exposed to so far, and there's set up for her past now. She's not really what I expected, but I can really see her joining the crew.
One Piece and NANA are #1 and 2, and all is right with the world.:happy:
It's amazing that One Piece just seems to be getting even more popular in Japan. With the next volume setting the all time record for biggest first print run ever, it seems like the series will just keep going up.
Ok, you got me on a technicality. The purpose behind the statement still stands firm, though, even if the statement itself is not 100% accurate.
Although Zoro's 'sense of direction' gag didn't become recurring until later, his habit of repeatedly falling asleep was around from the Buggy arc.
I don't really care about either character, but I went with Beckman just because he could use my vote more, and Robin is the only member of the Strawhats that I don't really like.
Ever since the guys who provided us with the scans got arrested in japan we started to get the chapters three days later than we used to. In 2004 and 2005 each chapter used to come out at wednesdays.
The raws started coming out later, but I remember a time where it would take a lot longer than now for a scanlation to be released. Of course, scanlation speeds haven't only increased for One Piece.
Whitebeard is awesome and all, but I still say he's One Piece's equivalent of the third hokage.
How so? About the only thing he has in common with Sarutobi is that they're both older characters. Their personalities are pretty much complete opposites, as are their roles in the respective stories.
Well, Arabasta will be finished by the end of summer, by the looks of it. We've still had 12 chapters over the last three issues, which is about as good a pace as you can hope for.
If they keep that pace up than we can be at Skypiea by the start of next year.
I love how we're having an Argument over something FUNi DOESN'T do.
they go with Marine 95% of the time
The only time they used "Navy" was at the Navy HQ sign, which pretty much sticks in line with my theoryI also like how you CONVENIENTLY ignored my example about how the Royal Navy Works.
According to a British Friend, in the Royal Navy they refer to the Organization as the Navy, an the Grunts as the Marines.you also Never See "Marines" written in the series AT ALL.
You only see "Marine" (Singular) written on the individual grunts and their ships.
I like how you CONVENIENTLY ignored my point about how the characters constantly refer to the individuals in the Marines as 'kaigun'. I already disproved the ridiculous notion of the organization and individuals as having separate names, so I don't see why I needed to address your example.
There's absolutely no evidence to the idea of there being two separate names. At all.
The organization is the Marines, because Oda chose to use 'Marine' and not 'Navy'. That's all there is to it.
Oda wrote "Alabasta" on the Eternal Pose, and "Arabasta" on the Map. Yes, Oda NEVER Makes mistakes, never.
Way to twist my words. I think it's pretty unlikely that Oda would consistently use a completely different word than the one he means. It doesn't require a complex knowledge of the English language, nor is it a case of something that might be confusing like an 'l/r' switcheroo.
When did Oda SAY this? they ALWAYS call the Organization the "Kaigun" and you just see Marine written on the Grunts and their Ships. why didn't the Navy HQ have "Marine" Written on it too? It didn't, it had it in Kanji.
The fact that it always says 'Marine' written everywhere on the Marine's ships, hats, uniforms, etc is a pretty strong indication that the organization is called 'Marines'.
And why does it make NO Sense? It makes PERFECT sense. The Organization is the Navy, and the Grunts are the Naval-Marines. that's why you only see "Marine" on their Uniforms and ships, not any of the head Buildings.
Where the fuck are you getting 'Naval-Marines' from? Oh, right, nowhere. They've only ever been called Marines. This whole 'Naval-Marines' gibberish that certain people have invented is just a way of trying to skirt around the issue.
I'm pretty sure that the individual soldiers have been referred to as 'Kaigun' dozens of times in the series. In fact, point me to one place where there was dialogue calling them 'Marine' rather than 'Kaigun'.
This excuse fails because there is so much evidence against, such as the fact that they are always called 'Kaigun'. It's Kaigun in dialogue, and it's written as 'Marine' on their ships and uniforms. Unless you think that they're using two different names for absolutely no reason, this doesn't make any sense to view them as different terms.
German.
and in Spanish and Italian it's "Marina"
Alright, would it make you happier if we said the organization was founded by a German dude?
To those who have mentioned the Marines have been handling this whole thing badly, not planning for Dragon when all indications are that Sengoku, at least, knows of his relationship to Ace, consdier this: Is it possible Sengoku didn't have a choice in the matter?
As smurfx posted and I myself agree about: I think it's highly likely Sengoku and others aware of Garp and Dragon's relationship have kept quiet for Garp's sake. This extra degree of separation makes all the difference when the Gorosei learn they've just been handed Portgas D. Ace. Even if they did somehow know Dragon's full name, I'd bet they have no idea of Portgas D Ace's relation to Monkey D. Dragon.
Thus, they order an execution and confrontation with Whitebeard having absolutely no idea that they're provoking Dragon as well. Sengoku may have tried to argue against this order, but the Gorosei runs the Marines, not the other way around. The order stands, and now Sengoku is forced to do the best he can with what he has: A powder keg ready to go nuclear.
My honest guess to all this is Luffy will become a "Spanner in the Works." If his rescue of Ace is successful, it may call of Dragon, if not avert the coming war entirely. Garp has said Whitebear's already too angry to stop. Luffy's interference may give the Marines a stronger chance, if so.
Least that's my opinion. I could be wrong.
I think this is an interesting idea, and quite possible. However, I have a hard time believing that they could keep the highest authority in the world completely in the dark on Dragon's true identity.
It's also possible that they simply didn't think Dragon would care all that much, given that he's never been around for his sons. That seems a bit unlikely, but we don't know exactly what their perception of Dragon is. It's also possible that they thought the opportunity of drawing out Whitebeard was too great to pass up, even if they risked later retaliation from Dragon. They may have been banking on Dragon being too far away to actually interfere in time (given that last we heard, he wasn't even in the Grand Line, and the execution was scheduled last minute).
Of course, there's also the final possibility that baiting Dragon was part of the plan all along. It would seem to fly against what Garp said about fighting two legends at once, and not necessarily the brightest of strategies, but we don't know exactly what they're thinking right now.
海軍 - Kaigun - Navy
海兵隊 - Kaiheitai - Marines
Try again.
Try reading my post again. Or gaining a rudimentary understanding of how translation works.
Kaigun is based on the kanji for sea (umi) and troops (gun). It literally means 'sea troops'. In most Japanese/English dictionaries it is translated (rightly) as Navy, because that's what the British chose to name their sea based military.
Really, we don't know exactly what happened with Kaigun but it was one of the Following:
1: Oda doesn't know English, he messed up. Wrote "Kaigun" in Japanese but "Marine" in English.
Absolutely preposterous, given that Oda has used plenty of perfectly fine English in the series. It's not even like this would have required any type of understanding of grammar. As you and others are quick to point out, just about any translation source will call kaigun 'navy'.
2: The Organization are the "Navy" and the grunts are the "Naval-Marines"
This makes absolutely no sense. 'Kaigun' and 'Marines' are clearly referring to the exact same thing in the Japanese version.
3: He didn't mean "Marine" to be English, it's some European language and in certain Euro-Languages, "Marine" Means "Navy"
In what language does 'Marine' mean 'Navy', out of curiosity?
I don't know why you find it so hard to believe that Oda consciously chose to call the organization 'Marines' instead of 'Navy', but it doesn't require some grand explanation. In the One Piece world, the aquatic based military is referred to as 'Marines'. Consistently. Given that it's a different world than our own, and doesn't share our history, this doesn't require any more explanation than any time you have an armed force in a fictional universe called something other than 'Army'.
I believe Kaigun leans more towards Navy. I always thought of it as Navy is the organization while the members are marines. (I thought made this post already… but I guess I clicked off my browser before it finalized.)
Well, it's a compound word made up using the kanji for 'sea' and 'troops', so it literally just refers to a sea based military. It's generally translated as 'Navy' because that's what we refer to our version as.
It seems to me like the One Piece world is different, and refers to them as 'Marines'. I don't see any reason to change it to 'Navy' based solely on the way things are done in our world, given that One Piece is set in a different world.
I'll go for 1382
Not sure where I got that number from, but it works.
@Muscle:
So we get two more weeks of One Piece, then a week of no One Piece?
No. One more chapter (this week), then a week off.
There will be another week off for Golden Week, too, so we're going to be having two skip weeks over the next month.
Another great chapter. All the information we found out this chapter about people on Level 6 is just great. I can't wait to see Shiryu show up. With Ace getting ready to be taken away, things are getting right down tot he wire.
And man, Luffy is just incredible.
No sir, the first time Luffy lost, he grabbed a bag full of water.
A lot of people seems to forget that Croc downed Luffy twice.
I don't remember Luffy doing that after he lost to Smoker?
Wow, female Luffy certainly looks…interesting.
I wonder what is going to happen now. Oda has certainly gotten really unpredictable with these last couple of chapters, even more so than usual.
Who the heck is that?
:getlost:
Only one of the most famous anime characters of all time.
Not to mention, it is a well known fact that he was 'three times faster'.
So, that's 9 chapters of One Piece over 2 months. Definitely a great trend, and hopefully it will continue.
I'd imagine we might start seeing faster volume releases later in the year, judging by this. They're also going to have to be slowing Naruto down later in the year, too. I mean, they're only 20 or so chapters behind Japan now, right?
Holy shit!
I can't believe the negative reactions some people are having to this chapter.
This was one of the most hilariously awesome One Piece chapters in quite some time, and a perfect example of why I love the series so much. That we can go from something deathly serious like last chapter to something like this…So fucking awesome.
I lost track of how many times I just burst out laughing while reading it. Well done, Oda.
I trust Oda won't rush things along, but I think it's possible that he might start to pick the pace up more as we enter the New World. He's been at this series for over a decade now, and I don't know if we can really expect him to spend another 15 years writing One Piece, as awesome as that would be.
If anything, I think we'll simply see the focus shift some and he'll start resolving things rather than introducing more major players/future plot points.
It certainly sounds like it. Now that they can't really do that with Naruto anymore, maybe One Piece is next up on the block. That would be great if true.
Definitely the whole crew splitting up thing.
There were some great twists earlier in the year, too, but Oda said he wasn't sure if he'd get to what he was talking about in 2008.
Given that there were only a few months between then, there's no way he could have been talking about something like revealing Roger or Rayleigh. There was no way that the Duvall stuff would have lasted over a year.
What a twist it was, too. The story has been so different lately, and yet it still feels wonderful. Most authors can't pull that off, but Oda has.
I am saddened to see the area around One Piece being sullied by the presence of the [censored] piece of shit manga NANA…
NANA is hardly a 'piece of shit'. It's one of the greatest manga ever written, regardless of if it is you cup of tea or not. In terms of writing quality and character development, very few manga can truly compare to it.
Yeah, but Dragon Ball has only 42 volumes and One Piece has already surpassed 50 volumes.
Whatever, both are super mangas and I love'em
Dragon Ball turns 25 this coming year, though. It has more than two decades worth of sales on its side, while One Piece has just over one.
I hope so. I just hope this war doesnt end the series,meaning 1 year left for the series..I hope there will be a few year(3-5?) left in the series.
Seeing as how he specifically talked about his plans for the New World, I don't think you have anything to worry about there. I don't think we'll be seeing One Piece end anytime soon.
One Piece and NANA right up at the top make me happy.
Nana is the most popular girls' manga now being written. Its author was also voted favorite overall mangaka in the last Oricon ranking.
It's also had two successful films and happens to be the one manga my wife still keeps up with outside OP.
It is extremely EXTREMELY wishy-washy girly and I don't say that as if it's a bad thing but there really is little there for guys. Since she started OP for my sake I attempted to read Nana MANY times and I still can't get into it. It's just not for me. But I DO like how the author handles the 'passage' of time which brings us to
I guess it depends on the guy. Personally, I consider NANA pretty much second only to One Piece for me, and I think that it's an extremely compelling story with fascinating characters. I think moreso than male or female, it depends on how you can accept the heavy melodrama. It's certainly not a lot of people's cup of tea. (Ironically, I love the series, and my fiancee despises it)
Obviously it's heavily targeted at women, but I just consider it a flat out great series, and very deserving of all the sales and praise that it gets.
This is the sales data for volume 18, which came out in June. It doesn't cover ALL of the volumes sold, just the ones through a certain distributor, but I'm not sure where to find out how many copies of each volume sold overall.
To be more specific, Diamond distributes only to comic book stores. In other words, those sales are only indicative of sales in comic book stores, which is such a small portion of the manga market that it's barely worth commenting on.
Manga does almost all of its business in book stores.
The biggest flaw with using that data outside of that, is that the manga that will sell the best in comic book stores (outside of something like Naruto which sells well everywhere) would generally be titles that appeal more towards people who frequent comic book stores.
So that 'extra 1,000' would just be a blip on the radar, no matter what.
Simply the fact that it's such a voltile location at this point. Her being there alone stragetically would be a disaster IF WB launched a pre-emptive attack. Along with many other possibilities.
Wouldn't it actually be a good thing for her to be there?
Seeing as they're now worried about an attack at Impel Down, having one of the Shichibukai present would seem like something that they would want to have there.
Yes, I see, so you are saying that sanji ending u on an island with gays & gay animals with the heart of a maiden is predictable . . .
to the asylum you go . . .
I predicted it a month or two ago. Well, not down to a T, but I said Sanji would go to 'Okama Island', or something of the sort.
Not saying it's not awesome and hilarious, just that I figured it would be coming.
Man, what a great chapter.
All the stuff going on in the world is amazing. It looks like everything is falling into place for an epic war.
Sanji's fate was predictable, but it's still hilarious. Poor guy. Can't wait to see where the rest of them ended up.
I've never heard of a manga adaptation working that way though. Just original, in-house stuff.
Major works that way. They have a 26 episode season, and then take some time off, and then another 26 episode season.
Also, the Major manga is ongoing and has been running longer than One Piece.
I don't think this would really make sense for One Piece, though. There's too much of a risk of losing their timeslot, or risking a slip in popularity.
Keeping the show perpetually going makes more sense to the suits.
@dirt:
Fucking finally. With that coming down to a halt, other series should speed up.
Basically my thoughts on the matter. If they get that close to Japan, they won't be able to release 4-5 chapters per month, since they'd be going faster than the Japanese. They could conceivably do 4 chapters a month, but that would still whittle away with off weeks and double issues.
So we'll probably see Naruto drop back down to 3 chapters a month, with the occasional 4 chapter month. Which means, more space in the magazine.
@Yuugi's:
I do wonder when this was recorded. 1.5-2 years ago now?
I think that would be pretty tough, since FUNi didn't even announce One Piece until April 2007, well under 2 years ago.
Probably about a year ago, maybe a little over that.
Although slower releases may suck, for a series like Slam Dunk that isn't that well known over here (sadly), the added exposure of serialization does nothing but help it.
I'd say it's a good trade off, although they should speed it up, given how long the series is.
This isn't meant to be a pessimistic comment at all, but say CNUSA doesn't air these episodes after Australia does. I have no proof but I'm under the speculative assumption that CNAU airs what CNUSA has the broadcast rights to. If Cartoon Network USA doesn't air the new episodes, or any episodes at all, then that means they're not interested in "One Piece" anymore, which means they'll let their broadcast rights expire. If that happens, and my speculative assumption is reality, then that means that even though Australia will want to keep airing "One Piece" they may not be able to in the near future.
The various nation's Cartoon Networks aren't linked in terms of what they broadcast.
You'll see plenty of foreign CNs air shows that CN USA clearly doesn't have the rights to (including shows that air on other channels in the USA).
They shouldn't have any control over what the Australian branch is doing.
Shushu getting votes isn't completely crazy. They gave the dog a backstory.
What is crazy, though:
Shushu's owner got a vote!
I think this poll is exhibit A in the world of "any freaking character can have at least one dedicated fan".
Okay, unlike the Sogeking votes (which would have put Usopp ahead of Law), this doesn't make an actual difference, but I just noticed that 3 people voted for "Cutty Flam".
What the hell?
FUNi never said they were going by Toei's bad excuse for seasons.
4 voyages most likely = 1 One Piece season for FUNi.
Except I'm pretty sure that FUNi is considering 144 as the start of Season 3. That would a lot more than 52 episodes in Seasons 1 and 2.
I think we'll get Season One 5th Voyage, and then start on Season Two, which will go to the end of the post-Arabasta filler.