@Smudger:

i understand your point of view. After all… just because someone is strong, doesn't mean they want to have that role or lifestyle in the pirating world. I think gold roger and luffys concept of just being free, makes it clear that their are other ideals followed by people in the pirating world.

I actually wonder what the point of calling yourself a warlord or yonkou is, if it only makes you a target, or forces you into some role or image. What's wrong with just wanting to be free to do as you wish, and not have any name attached to you.

that's correct

even Newgate was the strongest man .. and have the dream of family

about the second half of your speech .. you do have to remember that we are in the age of piracy

and every pirate in this era have dreams : the men's dreams never dies

to achieve their dream pirates have to gain power to protect themselves from all the dangers

zoro has to be stronger to defeat mihawk

whitebeard has to rule the sea so that he can build a safer place for his "sons"

shanks love to sail and feel free .. so he took a part of the new world for himself

thats why eveyone take names .. for reason .. teach took shishibukai so he can enter impel down

and with all this .. pirates always like competition

for ex Burjess ( man of teach ) at moquetown claimed that he is "champion" .. and that's what pissed off zoro and luffy

@RobZilla:

Oda wouldn't hype up and obscure the Yonko for so so long if they weren't the ultimate opponents Luffy will have to face.

Entire sagas are being set up around beating just one of these guys.

There's not going to be anyone stronger.

Good very good i like it here

for us the power of yonkou is devided by 2 :

strenght of the captain and the strenght of the crew

the second one is what makes the yonkou more difficult to take him down

if you remember what Law said in 699 or 698 about yonkou having a thousands of followers .. so a small crew like strawhats

won't be enough to "smell" the captain < take for ex Kaido all the 30 % of law's plan all this troubles in Dressrosa

mean to take down the 500 beasts

Mihawk on the other is just a captain of himself .. no crew no nothing .. just one boat moving under the mouvements of winds

He is a simple target for someone who is in his level

hope i made clear my point and forgive my english .. :sad::ninja:

what if i told you that i do not believe that yonkou are the strongest pirates ..

i mean after all there no text or picture that say they are .. besides there is a certain pirates .. just few that are at there level

you just take mihawk for ex

@Spam286:

Why not just divide your discussions into the topics covered by the threads in this forum? Is there any reason why you need to do it all in one place?

Well deviding it means that i had to post everytime in several thread which is pain in the a**

I also like the place where a lot of people discuss several things

by the way .. where can i find the whole or part of "red databook" "yellow" and "blue" ?

here we can only discuss things about shishibukai right ?

is there a place where we can discuss everything about manga one piece ? i mean i do want to discuss all the current events and the past ones too

but all in manga

hhh not what i meant

but thank you anyway .. i was looking for general one piece manga discussion :D

@Darth:

Not going to get into that discussion again… Not going to get into that discussion again... Not going to get into that discussion again...

But Doflamingo is definetly not on a level close to Admirals. If he was, he wouldn't have shown fear of Issho meteorite, very much like Issho himself was carefree while dropping it.

You people need to stop confusing smugness and confidence with strenght.

you really have to stop juging by that

the man didn't know about fuji'ability .. that's why he showed that reaction

on the other hand .. I totally agree that doflamingo is weaker than all the admirals

but his level is very close to them in term of strenght .. that's what i am saying

Hard to believe that luffy will kick his ass at the end !!

all your discussions are devided in million thread :(

dressrosa thread .. yonkou thread .. shishibukai thread .. what's that ?

where can i find big place to discuss general things in all one piece .. place where the most of members enter and participate ?

mihawk is the strongest shishibukai .. his level is a level of yonkou .. i guess weaker than Kaidou but stronger than than weakest from the emperors .

doflamingo is on level close .. very close to the admirals ..

and the admiral is always weaker than yonkou .. we have seen akainu the strongest one defeated by whitebeard in his worse conditions of sickness and age !!

hello people ? does anyone here have chapter 432 raw

i really need it to check out the speech of garp about yonkou

Please if someone have .. I want him to contact me .

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i expect that doflamingo is gonna cut the leg of sanji so sanji eat the mera mera fruit or law and leo fix his leg