If Absalom awakened I bet he could turn the entire Thriller Bark invisible.
General Devil Fruit Discussion
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So, for DFs that already affects the surroundings, an awakened state would only upgrade his/hers powers range of effect ?
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So, for DFs that already affects the surroundings, an awakened state would only upgrade his/hers powers range of effect ?
we dont know anything yet! lol
all we know is what doflamingo said about it and speculate off of that.
the leading thought is that the df user will be able to use their power on other things instead of just their self. but some believe it will be different on a case by case basis but will always some how enhance what they already do.
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Yeah, I know it´s a recent thing.
I´m just making those questions because I don´t want to think that a "awakening" is a just a new term for "training your DF powers".
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Being able to turn other objects into your element like Doffy turned buildings into strings?
I thought that was just Doflamingos take on it. So far awakened Zoans don't seem to affect surroundings. Even though Logia is highly likely to do so and is very separate from the other 2 classes of DF
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Zoan DF don't follow this general rule, from what we saw in ID, it gives just + power/ -humanity.
I was thinking that the Logias class has a different aspect for a awakening, just like the Zoan have.
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Zoan DF don't follow this general rule, from what we saw in ID, it gives just + power/ -humanity.
I was thinking that the Logias class has a different aspect for a awakening, just like the Zoan have.
That's what I was thinking too man. Doflamingo did make a very generic statement and does seem to give people the idea. But then we have Zoans that weren't affecting the area.
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Zoan DF don't follow this general rule, from what we saw in ID, it gives just + power/ -humanity.
I was thinking that the Logias class has a different aspect for a awakening, just like the Zoan have.
Mabe we have already seen logia awakenings?
Like how Punk Hazard changed after the battle between Akainu and Aokiji.
So mabe a logia awakening can change the nature around them into things that correspond to their element.
For example: Making volcano's that attack you with extra lava next to your own logia lava producing attack.
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I was about to suggest the same thing. For example Crocodile can turn things into sand by sucking all the water out of an object/person. So that would be his awakened ability it wouldn't be too far fetched to see other Logias with the same ability like on Punk Hazard where the landscape was completely changed.
I think, like with almost everything, Paramecias are special and it will be a case by case basis. To me Luffy being able to change things into rubber serves no purpose at all. The people who can create things can turn things into the substance they create. But with the other subcategories it could be different like if your body is affected you gain more control or something for instance Luffy can vulcanize his body or Buggy can leave his feet and fly as far as he wants or maybe replicate body parts. People like Law could do things like countershock and stuff and yes that would mean he has awakened his DF but it really is not that off base considering he has had his fruit for a long time and has probably known about awakening for awhile.
Another couple of things that i have thought of is Robin being able to 'bloom' things out of thin air and also maybe she can turn things into her limbs. Again this would mean that she has awakened her DF but since she has been with the Revos i think it is a possibility. Another possibility is that she could teleport herself by cloning and then actually becoming the clone.
I have soooooo many theories about all the SH possible awakened DF powers but it would take pages to write it all down.
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I was about to suggest the same thing. For example Crocodile can turn things into sand by sucking all the water out of an object/person. So that would be his awakened ability it wouldn't be too far fetched to see other Logias with the same ability like on Punk Hazard where the landscape was completely changed.
I think, like with almost everything, Paramecias are special and it will be a case by case basis. To me Luffy being able to change things into rubber serves no purpose at all. The people who can create things can turn things into the substance they create. But with the other subcategories it could be different like if your body is affected you gain more control or something for instance Luffy can vulcanize his body or Buggy can leave his feet and fly as far as he wants or maybe replicate body parts. People like Law could do things like countershock and stuff and yes that would mean he has awakened his DF but it really is not that off base considering he has had his fruit for a long time and has probably known about awakening for awhile.
Another couple of things that i have thought of is Robin being able to 'bloom' things out of thin air and also maybe she can turn things into her limbs. Again this would mean that she has awakened her DF but since she has been with the Revos i think it is a possibility. Another possibility is that she could teleport herself by cloning and then actually becoming the clone.
I have soooooo many theories about all the SH possible awakened DF powers but it would take pages to write it all down.
well this is the thread for it just put it in spoiler tags ….thats why we come to these threads. to read peoples ideas like these
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[hide]I was about to suggest the same thing. For example Crocodile can turn things into sand by sucking all the water out of an object/person. So that would be his awakened ability it wouldn't be too far fetched to see other Logias with the same ability like on Punk Hazard where the landscape was completely changed.
I think, like with almost everything, Paramecias are special and it will be a case by case basis. To me Luffy being able to change things into rubber serves no purpose at all. The people who can create things can turn things into the substance they create. But with the other subcategories it could be different like if your body is affected you gain more control or something for instance Luffy can vulcanize his body or Buggy can leave his feet and fly as far as he wants or maybe replicate body parts. People like Law could do things like countershock and stuff and yes that would mean he has awakened his DF but it really is not that off base considering he has had his fruit for a long time and has probably known about awakening for awhile.
Another couple of things that i have thought of is Robin being able to 'bloom' things out of thin air and also maybe she can turn things into her limbs. Again this would mean that she has awakened her DF but since she has been with the Revos i think it is a possibility. Another possibility is that she could teleport herself by cloning and then actually becoming the clone.
I have soooooo many theories about all the SH possible awakened DF powers but it would take pages to write it all down.[/hide]
I believe this is a restriction of his DF, but yeah, good theory.
So, you are saying that a Logia user, when awakened, can have access to sub-powers of the primal element ? That's interesting, but I think that only Crocodile can fit this.
About Paramacias.
Another example, Blueno´s fruit:
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Well since i can guess i'll go for it.
Luffy: Basically to vulcanize the rubber of his body to the point of it being extremely hard making his attacks so much more powerful. Another thing he could do is buildup rubber in a particular part of his body, his arm for example, and similar to Kong gun shoot it out all at once. Though he wouldn't have to into gear 4th for it. This could also be a future upgrade to gear 4th now that i think about it.
Chopper: His is very interesting due to the rumble ball and all his points. To me Monster point is an artificial awakening for Chopper at this point and not only will he master it but it will be even more powerful than before.
Robin: I think Robin's has some cool potential. As i have already said there is a very slight possibility she has already awakened because she is able to combine her limbs and grow them out of nowhere. A thing that could come with awakening though is that she will able to make herself gigantic. Also she would be able to teleport through her clones but i have an inkling she is able to do that now she just has had no purpose in doing it yet. Another thing that i could see is being able to turn objects into limbs. Sorta like Doffy can do with strings. The only problem with that is her power kinda makes that obsolete.
Brook: This guy has A LOT of possibilities. Though they are pretty far fetched. Since he is able to 'manipulate' souls through music and his fruit is the revive revive fruit it is possible that he can control dead people kinda like Moriah and his zombies. Not necessarily full resurrection but a temporary thing where he can control them. I think that would be extremely cool but i doubt it will happen. He could also control people by fully controlling their souls through music and or him going into people bodies with his spirit. Sorta like a possession. This would be really helpful cuz he could do surveillance without alerting people of the SH's presence.
As for Blueno's fruit. There is a possibility that he had already awakened it unknowingly. Oda has been known to do things like that. I also think the rumble ball was a type of foreshadow for awakenings especially Monster Point.
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I believe this is a restriction of his DF, but yeah, good theory.
So, you are saying that a Logia user, when awakened, can have access to sub-powers of the primal element ? That's interesting, but I think that only Crocodile can fit this.
About Paramacias.
Another example, Blueno´s fruit:
He can turn his body and transform things and others into doors, how can this power be awakened ? I don´t see any room for a upgrade.Easy as I recall he never made anything bigger than human size (roughly) so assuming that is his limitation he could, for example, make entire buildings a door in his awakened state.
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I was thinking, following this theory of the "Logia awakening sub-powers of the primal element". I came to a raw conclusion that maybe Blackbeard has awakened his DF before the marineford war.
So that´s why he was able to steal Whitebeard´s DF, he sucked Whitebeard´s power with his sub-power to nullify others DF´s.
If you say that he didn't have the time to awaken, remember that he said that he studied this Devil Fruit for a long time.
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About Fujitora's meteors…
I know that the reality is that "Oda doesn't expect you to think about it this much", lol. But let's assume he did.
How would a blind man, or even a man with sight, know where these distant meteors are? And how would he get them from a place so far away that no one could see them to his location in just one moment? That's defying quite a few laws of physics there... though again, this is One Piece, lol.
Let's say he can "feel them with gravity". Does that mean he's got total "gravity sight" too?
It's pretty hard to take One Piece's concepts seriously enough to analyze it this much, but there are a lot of people here who really do, so I was curious to see what people think. -
Maybe Issho has awakened his Paramecia fruit.:ninja:
So, this is just me, but.
Different awakening for different classes of fruit
Zoan = Raw power
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About Fujitora's meteors…
I know that the reality is that "Oda doesn't expect you to think about it this much", lol. But let's assume he did.
How would a blind man, or even a man with sight, know where these distant meteors are? And how would he get them from a place so far away that no one could see them to his location in just one moment? That's defying quite a few laws of physics there... though again, this is One Piece, lol.
Let's say he can "feel them with gravity". Does that mean he's got total "gravity sight" too?
It's pretty hard to take One Piece's concepts seriously enough to analyze it this much, but there are a lot of people here who really do, so I was curious to see what people think.I just think his CoO really is so crazy that he can sense meteors from outer space. It could also be that his gravity fruit enhances CoO like Enel's did.
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I had that same theory for BB but i feel like it is along the lines of kill someone with a fruit near by and then you get it. To me if Burgess kills someone then he would have to travel all the way back to BB so that he could extract the fruit but the DF powers probs would have re incarnated by then so….. Also Burgess said HE was going to steal Luffy's fruit so i think everyone can do it you just need to know how.
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I just think his CoO really is so crazy that he can sense meteors from outer space. It could also be that his gravity fruit enhances CoO like Enel's did.
Well that brings up an interesting question then. Someone with that type of haki can sense, like, "you're going to kick with your right foot to my stomach". Does that mean Fujitora can "see" with that too?
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About Fujitora's meteors…
I know that the reality is that "Oda doesn't expect you to think about it this much", lol. But let's assume he did.
How would a blind man, or even a man with sight, know where these distant meteors are? And how would he get them from a place so far away that no one could see them to his location in just one moment? That's defying quite a few laws of physics there... though again, this is One Piece, lol.
Let's say he can "feel them with gravity". Does that mean he's got total "gravity sight" too?
It's pretty hard to take One Piece's concepts seriously enough to analyze it this much, but there are a lot of people here who really do, so I was curious to see what people think.well,i'd gladly take the "gravity sight"..it would explain both and in a kinda realistic kind of way..included how he can feel clouds that shouldn't have a voice..it would just like echolocation,but with force and resistance instead of sound vibrations.
it would also make it not that overpowered since he would be able to only get the shape of things and people..but not faces..so it's not like he would be able to locate a given person far away..at least if he has not a very unique type of body,basically a reverse footprint -
I had that same theory for BB but i feel like it is along the lines of kill someone with a fruit near by and then you get it. To me if Burgess kills someone then he would have to travel all the way back to BB so that he could extract the fruit but the DF powers probs would have re incarnated by then so….. Also Burgess said HE was going to steal Luffy's fruit so i think everyone can do it you just need to know how.
We don't know if Burgess has a DF, so he could eat one with no problem. But Blackbeard already had a devil fruit power when he "ate" the Gura-Gura no mi.
Marco said that "Marshall body is strange/special", maybe this term is used to describe BB Yami-Yami no mi power.
Well, I still think that Marshall awakened his Logia and with his sub-power of "pull everything", he pulled WB power.
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Well, I still think that Marshall awakened his Logia and with his sub-power of "pull everything", he pulled WB power.
Meaning he didn't even have to eat the fruit, which is pretty neat.
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Meaning he didn't even have to eat the fruit, which is pretty neat.
And thus, not breaking the general rule.
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I was thinking, following this theory of the "Logia awakening sub-powers of the primal element". I came to a raw conclusion that maybe Blackbeard has awakened his DF before the marineford war.
So that´s why he was able to steal Whitebeard´s DF, he sucked Whitebeard´s power with his sub-power to nullify others DF´s.
If you say that he didn't have the time to awaken, remember that he said that he studied this Devil Fruit for a long time.
Considering the fact that you need to see all the Evil of the world, I would say Blackbeard would have awakened it pretty quickly. I think also studying and searching for the fruit helped with it too
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For me, this "awakening state" is a higher understanding of a DF power (for Paramecia and Logia) or the quintessence of the DF power (Zoan).
So, studying and learning about a Devil Fruit beforehand gives you a advantage in awakening the "true" power of a devil fruit.Again, this is just me throwing my thoughts.
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For me, this "awakening state" is a higher understanding of a DF power (for Paramecia and Logia) or the quintessence of the DF power (Zoan).
So, studying and learning about a Devil Fruit beforehand gives you a advantage in awakening the "true" power of a devil fruit.Again, this is just me throwing my thoughts.
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I agree with this, but would just like to point out an implication: if awakened zoans are embodiments of the quintessence of their fruit - embodiments of their animals - then Chopper's awakening would have him becoming more and more human, since he ate the human human fruit (person person?). Unlike other zoans that become more like mindless animals, he would become more like a human, since that is his fruit. Furthermore, humans are characterized - in part - by rationality, so Chopper's awakening would he more mindful, less mindless.
I have two ideas about this: (1) Chopper has been awakened the whole time we've known him, since he lives his life more like a human being than like a reindeer (he studies, creates technology, is empathetic, ethical, rational, has weird ego issues, and when was the last time you saw him grazing?); (2) maintaining his consciousness in his monster point is a form of awakenening, since that form was originally mindless, but human beings are minded and so by becoming self-aware and mindful in his monster point, he is better embodying his fruit power.
Chopper is super weird when it comes to awakenings, cause we ezpect zoans to be more like animals, but only because most zoans (except chopper) have non-human animal fruits. But, they all become more like their fruit, and Chopper's fruit is the human human fruit.
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Well the human fruit is a little different that animal fruits. Chopper gained an intelligence he could never have as an animal. If he were awakened, I think he'd look more human than animal.
Maybe that's what Oda has in store for Chopper in the endgame. I like fluffy Chopper, though.
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The Rumble Ball/Monster point for Chopper, and the Seimei Kikan: Kami-e Bushin form of Rob Lucci are not natural, they both found a way to "divert" (I didn't found a better word) their fruits.
About Chopper, I doubt he will awaken his DF.
Edit: Let´s talk about Chopper´s Hito-Hito no mi and why he is so special.
Chopper is a reindeer that was outcast from his herd because he had a blue nose + ate the DF. Because of that, he tried to seek company of humans, and after a long time, he found humans that accepted him.
Of course, he IS still a animal, but he lost his animal side because he lived most of his life with humans. So, because of this deviation of animal conduct, Chopper awakened his devil fruit, but only if he stayed with his human form all the time, while he uses all the different forms that he developed with his Rumble Ball he would never awaken.
I don't know if a awakening is bound to happen for every DF users.
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The Rumble Ball/Monster point for Chopper, and the Seimei Kikan: Kami and Bushin form of Rob Lucci are not natural, they both found a way to "divert" (I didn't found a better word) their fruits.
Agreed, which is precisely why I think monster point is not an awakening (agreeing here too). Also, though, monster point becomes less human_._ Awakening would involve becoming more human, since that is his fruit "animal." This is why I think his normal form - in which he lives his life like a human and not like a reindeer - is an awakened form. Even if he isn't awakened yet, though, his awakening ought involve becoming more human and less like a reindeer, mirroring how the other awakenings have appeared so far: Less like the base creature, more like the fruit creature.
Though, awakening might be different for every fruit. Who knows. But if Chopper's involves becoming more like a monster and less like a human, then that is an exception to the rule that we have seen so far (demon guards).
That being said, I also think it would be awful story-wise for Oda to introduce zoan awakening (way back when) and then not have the crews only zoan awaken.
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[…]That being said, I also think it would be awful story-wise for Oda to introduce zoan awakening (way back when) and then not have the crews only zoan awaken.
But Luffy, Brook and Robin can't use the Rumble ball, and Chopper can, I think this makes things balanced.
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But Luffy, Brook and Robin can't use the Rumble ball, and Chopper can, I think this makes things balanced.
Yeah, that's true, but it's not like it makes Chopper stronger than them. This actually brings up at least two issues. The first is that, as you noted, it's artificial - so much of the manga is about self-improvement and standing for what you really believe, etc. Personally, and I don't think I'm alone on this, I think it'd be nice to see Chopper "overcome" this.
But, on the other hand, it might be really cool if he never awakens. One of Chopper's distinctive strengths precisely as a human zoan is that he is rational, intelligent, and a doctor… It is really cool to see him use supplement his power due to his intellect, which is largely determined by the fact that his fruit made him sentient in the first place. It's SUPER cool, actually, to see him go his own way instead of having to be like other zoans in order to shine.
I may have just convinced myself of your position :P
But, on the other hand, I do believe his awakening would make him more human. His rumbleballs seem to bring more of his reindeer - his base species - out. Grows huge and hairy, horns, no human consciousness to speak of (pre-time skip: controlling monster point, in my opinion, could be considered a kind of awakening since he retains his human mind (MAYBE, this is a tricky case)). So its not like it's rumbleballs in place of awakening, or instead of. It would be rumbleballs or awakening, based on the situation, or maybe even both (as mindful monster point post-TS might be).
I guess the long and short of it is that I see rumbleballs and Chopper's specific potential awakening (becoming more human) as different kinds of upgrades for him, which might be susceptible to various mixing and matching. I kind of think this is already the case, since I think Chopper has always been "awakened," and that allowed him to use his fruit in all sorts of weird ways.
Hm. Yeah. At bare minimum, it seems like having the person person fruit was necessary for the development (and maybe the use) of rumbleballs. Despite this being one piece, we haven't seen any straight up reindeer doctors - only a reindeer with the person person fruit. The question is whether or not his base form is awakened, though, which I kind of think it is, primarily due to how human-like it is.
For comparison, I wouldn't say that Chopper's default mode is less like a human than the cow demon guard's default form is like a cow. I think Chopper is exemplifying, in his base form, his fruit animal to the same extent that the demon guards exemplified theirs.
One other interesting thing to note is that, because the demon guards were basically mindless animals, it is unclear to me whether or not they can (or had any motivation/inkling to) transform. Chopper still can, and that's because his fruit makes him mindful, not mindless. If we go with a really general concept of awakening, such as "the user has an atypical mastery over his devil fruit and can use it in atypical ways," and we grant that his base form is awakened (which is really the question at hand, so we can't assume it, but let's for a minute), then we can show that being awakened - being minded - specifically allows him to transform (even with rumbleballs) when this may not be something the demon guards can do.
I don't know. I'm just rambling now. You raise an interesting point. Unfortunately, I am super sick and a little too delirious to give it the treatment it deserves. There's probably a billion fallacies in my response and 0 evidence for anything I said. I'll think on it though! :)
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Maybe that's what Oda has in store for Chopper in the endgame. I like fluffy Chopper, though.
Btw, I overlooked this a little bit when responding to Captain Ugly (great fuckin' name). As is clear, I think he already looks/lives as a human enough that I'm convinced he is awakened (might be totally wrong here). BUT, if he would become REALLY human, like awaken and basically become Tony Tony Chopper, "human being," that would be so freakin' awesome!
I'm trying to figure out what advantages it would bring. I like to play up the fact that humans are often defined by rationality and intelligence (not entirely correct, but that does seem to be the key thing Chopper gained out of his fruit), but that of course is a long shot from claiming that more human = more smart. So, I'm not really sure what being more human would do, other than MAYBE (but not necessarily) boosting his intellect (from using more of his human mind), becoming more empathetic/ethical (he already is one of the more empathy inclined strawhats, though a lot of that is due to his history), maybe having some new forms that are more geared towards being a human than a reindeer, in weird and beneficial ways?
I don't know. If I am wrong that he is awakened, and if he DOES become awakened, and if that involved becoming more human (how could it not?) then there is SO much room for Oda to explode my mind about it. I'd be super stoked.
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Due to Chopper's backstory, he became a doctor, and with this knowledge, made the rumble ball which made possible the deviant of his power.
Chopper is just a reindeer that ate the Hito-Hito no mi, and what is the quintessence of a human ? Being able to think/talk/learn/have emotions and Chopper have all this. But this makes him human to the point of awakening ? I don't know if this would be "good" for Chopper's character development, his central fighting style is the rumble ball. If he became 100% human, he would have to learn a new fighting technique or use a gun/sword.
But if he awakened his DF due to social interactions/studying a field of knowledge, now this would be nice and shocking. The Rumble ball effects don't have nothing to do with awakening, but it was the creation of the rumble balls that made possible a "awakening".
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Is there such a thing as the chicken chicken fruit?
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The only Tori-Tori fruit we know are Pell´s and Marco´s fruits.
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Is there such a thing as the chicken chicken fruit?
I smell a basilik theory. Or is it my Happy Meal ?
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I smell a basilik theory. Or is it my Happy Meal ?
LOL Maybe even a Devil Fruit user that goes by the name of Ronald McDonald! XD
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Time time no mi. User can alter time up to half an hour ago, even better than observation haki, they in that state affect only themselves. Like law stamina dependent, and ultimate technique is unlimited time reversal, no limits, but again like law requires his life. Awakened, he can manipulatenot just time affecting him nut other people and things, up to three days. Eigher an admiral green bull, or coby if he ever makes it will be the user of this timely fruit. But might be greenbull unless an admiral dies soon. Light, gravity and time would be something haa?
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Time time no mi. User can alter time up to half an hour ago, even better than observation haki, they in that state affect only themselves. Like law stamina dependent, and ultimate technique is unlimited time reversal, no limits, but again like law requires his life. Awakened, he can manipulatenot just time affecting him nut other people and things, up to three days. Eigher an admiral green bull, or coby if he ever makes it will be the user of this timely fruit. But might be greenbull unless an admiral dies soon. Light, gravity and time would be something haa?
Or maybe a awakened Noro Noro no mi. :ninja:
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Pause time is just a small perception of the Noro Noro no mi potential, with a awakened stage, Foxy could control time.
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Pause time is just a small perception of the Noro Noro no mi potential, with a awakened stage, Foxy could control time.
true but fujitora- blackbeard, machvise and that woman in crocodile former organization, Mr 5 and the executive bartolomew beat, buggy - law, its possible is'nt mate? Pausing time is just one way of maipulating time. Noronoro stops people, the time time no mi will be maipulated based on the user, personally going back in time, not stopping time at all, just reversing it or if oda is up to it even quickening it. Same mechanism as i explained with drawbacks, and awakening.
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One thing I learned from OP is that nothing is impossible and every character is important to the plot (see Buggy for exemple, first, he was a just a silly villain, now he is a Shichibukai). Of course, I highly doubt that Foxy will return to the plot, but I also highly doubted that Ace would die.
Also, the Noro Noro no mi can be manipulated by the user, like every DF´s introduced so far.
That thing you said about Machvise and Miss Valentine is a good point, they have similar powers, and with the "awakening status" Miss Valentine could have had the same power of Machvise.
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I was just wondering why people said Suji Suji fruit, how ever the fruit was called Ito Ito no mi.
Anyone Japanese explain? Does Suji not make sense when used as "Suji Suji", and Ito Ito is correct.
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Anyone Japanese explain? Does Suji not make sense when used as "Suji Suji", and Ito Ito is correct.
筋 (suji) means a lot of things, and can mean a line or string or strip. 糸 (ito) just means thread, yarn, or string. Both could've been used; it does not matter if a word doesn't make sense if doubled, since, well, almost all of the devil fruits both in japanese and english "do not makes sense" when doubled up (e.g. gomu gomu and gum-gum are nonsensical). In any case, 糸 (or イト) was probably used just because it specifically means thread.
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筋 (suji) means a lot of things, and can mean a line or string or strip. 糸 (ito) just means thread, yarn, or string. Both could've been used; it does not matter if a word doesn't make sense if doubled, since, well, almost all of the devil fruits both in japanese and english "do not makes sense" when doubled up (e.g. gomu gomu and gum-gum are nonsensical). In any case, 糸 (or イト) was probably used just because it specifically means thread.
Hmm that makes sense.
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The japanese language has three writing systems, if you don't already know.
Oda writes Devil Fruit names in katakana イト instead of kanji 糸 or hiragana いと. Blackbeard's fruit, for example, the Yami Yami no Mi, is written as ヤミヤミの実 instead of 闇闇の実. My japanese isn't very good, so I don't know how people write certain words in actual usage, since some words are simply written in their easier hiragana/katakana forms instead of their kanji. Though despite that, Oda simply writes all of the devil fruit names in katakana, even simple kanji words like 人 (hito) is spelled in katakana ヒト. Even 糸 is a simple kanji - one of the earlier kanji to learn.
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Popping in here to ask a question…
Does any of Shanks's crew even have a fruit? If not, how do y'all speculate they go toe-to-toe in the New World? They can't all just be pre-fire-fruit Sabos... -
Popping in here to ask a question…
Does any of Shanks's crew even have a fruit? If not, how do y'all speculate they go toe-to-toe in the New World? They can't all just be pre-fire-fruit Sabos...we have no confirmation whatsoever on anything on shank and his crew..oda can literally made up anything about that,even that shanks recently eat a fruit.
but that being said,the guy who went against roger for years never had any fruit..so it's not impossibile to be one of the best without a fruit,it all depends on how good you are at what you do. -
Popping in here to ask a question…
Does any of Shanks's crew even have a fruit? If not, how do y'all speculate they go toe-to-toe in the New World? They can't all just be pre-fire-fruit Sabos...Heh. They are no pre-fire fruit Sabos… THEY ARE ALL MIDDLE AGED RAYLEIGHS!!
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Popping in here to ask a question…
Does any of Shanks's crew even have a fruit? If not, how do y'all speculate they go toe-to-toe in the New World? They can't all just be pre-fire-fruit Sabos...They had luffy's DF with them so I don't think they are agains't eating one and likely it's not the only DF they found.
There's the guy with a monkey on his shoulders, I imagine the monkey has a DF( or the guy has 'animal control' DF). There's a guy with a dragon tattoo on his neck, so maybe he has some kind of dragon zoan.
Shanks looks more like Mihawk, swordman and his haki is special. His rivalry also points to him as swordman without DF.