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doesn't seem that interesting. oh well

What's missing from it? What would you like to see added ?

Kiera

I knew you'd show up in this thread sooner or later where have you been Kiera, they'll probably announce the next Musou after this game is out

Yeah you know me >I buy every One Piece Game so I show up in every Thread. Must say I was long not here, wil lchange that from now on^^

I hope so too, that the next Musou Game is next but think 2018 and we will see another Handheld Game first. Well I would love to see a new Romance Dawn in way better but i'm also very excited for PW 4 and Gear 4 on it and so on. This Game will be fun but I prefer personaly the Musou Games since I'm a huge Musou Fan

cloudrivera

I knew you'd show up in this thread sooner or later where have you been Kiera, they'll probably announce the next Musou after this game is out

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What's missing from it? What would you like to see added ?

I'm just not a fan of 3d fighters. It doesn't help that it's like J Stars. I hope the game sells well and all, and I hope you guys enjoy it, but it doesn't seem like it's for me.

Although, I will say that if there's a nice amount of single player content then I may get it down the road.

Jojolion

I'm just not a fan of 3d fighters. It doesn't help that it's like J Stars. I hope the game sells well and all, and I hope you guys enjoy it, but it doesn't seem like it's for me.

Although, I will say that if there's a nice amount of single player content then I may get it down the road.

In support of the series period I'm going to get it, but I agree for the most part. I honestly would have preferred a Storm clone (assuming that this game is J-Stars without the 4 player mode).

We had worse though, Fighting for One Piece is something I honestly regret even knowing about.

MasterKingJC

A Storm clone would have been worse. It's just the same one-button mashing game repackaged in every new installment. Outside of visual presentation and spectacle, it's just a mediocre arena brawler that seems to throw in new gimmicks with every new game.

Does every anime fighting game have to just copy Ultimate Ninja Storm? Does no one want diverse fighting games in the niche circle of anime-licensed titles?

Green_vs_Red

Does no one want diverse fighting games in the niche circle of anime-licensed titles?

I don't think so in spite of the various pleas for games similar to Grand Battle or Ultimate Ninja Storm.

Kiera

Ich wish they would bring Super Grand Battle X to us, it was fun. In Terms of Story for Burning Blood please no Dark Clones like in J Stars, I don't thnink you will follow the Manga Storie and its a Original one.

MasterKingJC

According to Aleh/AngryStormGamer, his friend mentioned that the story would start at Luffy meeting Zoro and fighting Morgan.

Doubt it will cover every arc. It'll probably skip arcs like PW1.

RuffyDragonGarp

A Storm clone would have been worse. It's just the same one-button mashing game repackaged in every new installment. Outside of visual presentation and spectacle, it's just a mediocre arena brawler that seems to throw in new gimmicks with every new game.

Does every anime fighting game have to just copy Ultimate Ninja Storm? Does no one want diverse fighting games in the niche circle of anime-licensed titles?

Exactly what i think. Storm was good with such a big roster and nice boss fights but other than that the game was boring. Only 3 combos is an insult for a game.

Storm was okay but i don't want BB or any game to be like it. A 3D Fighter is supposed to have a lot of combos.
So if BB is going to be some clone that it should copy BT3. Combo- and characterwise best game.

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The only thing that is missing is the complete character list and the storymode.
Will it be like BT3 where you just fight your enemies or like Storm with boss battles?

Rukusho

@Kiera:

I hope so too, that the next Musou Game is next but think 2018 and we will see another Handheld Game

I think they'll probably release the next Musou maybe close to October next year….such a long time from now[emoji24]

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I'm just not a fan of 3d fighters. It doesn't help that it's like J Stars. I hope the game sells well and all, and I hope you guys enjoy it, but it doesn't seem like it's for me.

Although, I will say that if there's a nice amount of single player content then I may get it down the road.

Oh more of a street fighter , Guilty Gear player eh, since you mentioned some single player gameplay are you hoping for something similar to budokai 3 adventure mode ? (I doubt it will have as much free roam though)

cloudrivera

Yes! I think Budokai 3 was the last Dragonball game I played now that I think about it lol. I would love an adventure mode.

Rukusho

Yes! I think Budokai 3 was the last Dragonball game I played now that I think about it lol. I would love an adventure mode.

And the fighting mechanics were really good, a lot of combos, attack cancels, Hight/Low attacks Ultras, & Supers nothing like Budokai 3 instant classic, if we get something like that from One Piece I'm happy I can see this game giving us that similar feeling.

Jojolion

A Storm clone would have been worse. It's just the same one-button mashing game repackaged in every new installment. Outside of visual presentation and spectacle, it's just a mediocre arena brawler that seems to throw in new gimmicks with every new game.

Does every anime fighting game have to just copy Ultimate Ninja Storm? Does no one want diverse fighting games in the niche circle of anime-licensed titles?

Storm games are a lot deeper than you think especially compared to J-Stars and a lot of other 3D "Action" fighters. I think people who are quick to call it a button mashing game haven't bothered to dig for the things like ninja move canceling and all the other advanced methods that the community found within the game.

The thing with J-Stars is that a lot of the advanced techs they created are hardly practical online especially when while you're trying to pull them off you'd only get blasted by another player's kamehameha or other ranged attacks.

I don't think you were listening to me I said I would rather have a Storm clone than anything related to J-Stars if we're going to have a 3D fighter. If you don't like Naruto fair enough but I'd assume you'd at least look into what makes a Storm game a little bit above of the other recent 3D action fighters.

Here are a few examples and yes these work and are practical online:

Edit: By no means am I saying that this game is hardcore or considered a legit fighter, but it definitely has a surprise layer of depth to it that really beats the argument of "button mashing" to death.

Kiera

I think they'll probably release the next Musou maybe close to October next year….such a long time from now[emoji24]

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Oh more of a street fighter , Guilty Gear player eh, since you mentioned some single player gameplay are you hoping for something similar to budokai 3 adventure mode ? (I doubt it will have as much free roam though)

Me too until then I must still get Platin in PW 3, only 2 Trophies missing^^

Budokai 3 is my favorite DBZ Game, I love it and the Storymode was awesome.

Rukusho

Storm games are a lot deeper than you think especially compared to J-Stars and a lot of other 3D "Action" fighters. I think people who are quick to call it a button mashing game haven't bothered to dig for the things like ninja move canceling and all the other advanced methods that the community found within the game.

Edit: By no means am I saying that this game is hardcore or considered a legit fighter, but it definitely has a surprise layer of depth to it that really beats the argument of "button mashing" to death.

This is interesting cause a few years ago I got into an argument with someone to allow Ultimate Ninja storm for a tournament for Anime North in Canada, We went back and forth for awhile in the end he won the debate, since according to him there is not much uniqueness to characters except there small cut scene when doing a combo and the tools you start with at the beginning of a match, we also tested online different people choosing sasori , itachi(Sasunoo) and other characters were too ' BROKEN' there was no fairness in the game either was his rebuttal.

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@Kiera:

Me too until then I must still get Platin in PW 3, only 2 Trophies missing^^

Budokai 3 is my favorite DBZ Game, I love it and the Storymode was awesome.

I'm still in the processing of doing my platinum's mostly just playing the DLC's

Jojolion

This is interesting cause a few years ago I got into an argument with someone to allow Ultimate Ninja storm for a tournament for Anime North in Canada, We went back and forth for awhile in the end he won the debate, since according to him there is not much uniqueness to characters except there small cut scene when doing a combo and the tools you start with at the beginning of a match, we also tested online different people choosing sasori , itachi(Sasunoo) and other characters were too ' BROKEN' there was no fairness in the game either was his rebuttal.

During Generations there were plenty of broken characters most of the issues have been fixed since then (and even greatly knocked them down a few tiers as a result)

I'd argue that presenting the PS2 Naruto games would be more fit for tournaments because there's a lot more techs and cancels you can work with. Storm can hold it's own only if everyone knew the fundamentals of the moves discovered by the community. If it was just for casual play then yeah I can't see it in a tournament.

MasterKingJC

Storm games are a lot deeper than you think especially compared to J-Stars and a lot of other 3D "Action" fighters. I think people who are quick to call it a button mashing game haven't bothered to dig for the things like ninja move canceling and all the other advanced methods that the community found within the game.

The thing with J-Stars is that a lot of the advanced techs they created are hardly practical online especially when while you're trying to pull them off you'd only get blasted by another player's kamehameha or other ranged attacks.

I don't think you were listening to me I said I would rather have a Storm clone than anything related to J-Stars if we're going to have a 3D fighter. If you don't like Naruto fair enough but I'd assume you'd at least look into what makes a Storm game a little bit above of the other recent 3D action fighters.

Here are a few examples and yes these work and are practical online:

Edit: By no means am I saying that this game is hardcore or considered a legit fighter, but it definitely has a surprise layer of depth to it that really beats the argument of "button mashing" to death.

I already know that Storm has some hidden depth to its combat. But the majority of players who pick up these games aren't going to look up and practice these advanced combos.
Online matches have and continue to prove this. The community of dedicated players who spend hours and days perfecting this moves are dwarfed by the spammers who just want an easy win. J-Stars has the same problem, but it ridiculously more rampant in the Storm community.
A lot of these combos you showed also tend to fail if you can't manage to pull of the stun first.

cloudrivera

Man Budokai 3 was great

Jojolion

I already know that Storm has some hidden depth to its combat. But the majority of players who pick up these games aren't going to look up and practice these advanced combos.
Online matches have and continue to prove this. The community of dedicated players who spend hours and days perfecting this moves are dwarfed by the spammers who just want an easy win. J-Stars has the same problem, but it ridiculously more rampant in the Storm community.
A lot of these combos you showed also tend to fail if you can't manage to pull of the stun first.

The majority who don't pick up these combos are the one's that tend to not get anywhere in ranking. During Generations period I'd 100% agree with you with Kimmi, PTS Kankuro and Masked Man being very high in tier rank hell even as far back as Storm 2 where it didn't matter if you knew how to play at that point.

I played J-Stars and Naruto pretty often and I can easily say J-Stars is much worse off so I disagree with you there. The Bobobo's, Saki's, Vegetas etc. Even ignoring the characters J-Stars best fits the description of what you said about naruto.

The community of dedicated players who spend hours and days perfecting this moves are dwarfed by the spammers who just want an easy win.

You know those are two out of the countless videos online? There are combos that don't require the stun that are called Ninja Move Cancels that are unblockable and can only be escaped if the sub bar fills up. I've seen some cancels that hit up to 40% without the stun item.

You might as well just come out and say you don't play Storm often enough to be aware of this stuff because the stuff you're telling me was valid criticism for the previous entries that came out years ago.

Champa

Hi every one, Do You know if we will have a stroy mode?

MasterKingJC

The majority who don't pick up these combos are the one's that tend to not get anywhere in ranking. During Generations period I'd 100% agree with you with Kimmi, PTS Kankuro and Masked Man being very high in tier rank hell even as far back as Storm 2 where it didn't matter if you knew how to play at that point.

I haven't played a Storm game online since 3. Maybe it's not as bad now like it was with Kankuro, Kiba, and Madara being annoying to fight against online.

I played J-Stars and Naruto pretty often and I can easily say J-Stars is much worse off so I disagree with you there. The Bobobo's, Saki's, Vegetas etc. Even ignoring the characters J-Stars best fits the description of what you said about naruto.

I agree. The broken characters mixed with the 2v2 combat just made for a disastrous experience if your teammate wasn't competent.

You know those are two out of the countless videos online? There are combos that don't require the stun that are called Ninja Move Cancels that are unblockable and can only be escaped if the sub bar fills up. I've seen some cancels that hit up to 40% without the stun item.

You might as well just come out and say you don't play Storm often enough to be aware of this stuff because the stuff you're telling me was valid criticism for the previous entries that came out years ago.

I haven't bothered to play Storm competitively since 3. I still haven't even completed Revolution.

Back to BB, I have a feeling that Spike (Chunsoft) is trying to turn Burning Blood into its own thing, with some good aspects from J-Stars improved upon and some other fighting game aspects thrown in as well. I've seen this game compared to not only J-Stars, but Zenkai Battle Royal and Tenkaichi 3.

While it's not a fighting game, I remember criticism for Xenoverse's alpha build where it was compared to Battle of Z, but when the final build of the game dropped, those criticisms were shut down.

J-Stars was never meant to really be competitive no matter how hard the community tried to make it work, but the direction that Chunsoft and the creators of Tenkaichi and Raging Blast seem to be leaning towards is a more skilled, tactical based 3D arena fighter.

NZH97

Yes. It will begin at Romance Dawn with Zoro being recruited and fighting Morgan according AngryStormGamer

KageKageKing

Story Mode. Who needs that sort of crap anyway?

Jojolion

I haven't played a Storm game online since 3. Maybe it's not as bad now like it was with Kankuro, Kiba, and Madara being annoying to fight against online.

I agree. The broken characters mixed with the 2v2 combat just made for a disastrous experience if your teammate wasn't competent.

I haven't bothered to play Storm competitively since 3. I still haven't even completed Revolution.

Back to BB, I have a feeling that Spike (Chunsoft) is trying to turn Burning Blood into its own thing, with some good aspects from J-Stars improved upon and some other fighting game aspects thrown in as well. I've seen this game compared to not only J-Stars, but Zenkai Battle Royal and Tenkaichi 3.

While it's not a fighting game, I remember criticism for Xenoverse's alpha build where it was compared to Battle of Z, but when the final build of the game dropped, those criticisms were shut down.

J-Stars was never meant to really be competitive no matter how hard the community tried to make it work, but the direction that Chunsoft and the creators of Tenkaichi and Raging Blast seem to be leaning towards is a more skilled, tactical based 3D arena fighter.

Ahh okay this is starting to make a lot more sense now. Revolution is very boring and stale they made some good changes but ultimately the separation of how the supports work was what broke the game for me and how they weakened the ultimate jutsus.

I think BB overall is visually a step up from J-Stars. By visually I don't mean graphics I mean at first glance. Hopefully it brings in some techs from Tenkaichi 3 and such.

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Story Mode. Who needs that sort of crap anyway?

I need a Story Mode.

Horizon

Story Mode. Who needs that sort of crap anyway?

Everyone. Games would get boring really fast with nothing to do.

KageKageKing

Back in the old days, we got used to an Arcade mode and a Vs mode. That is all we needed it.

RuffyDragonGarp

Back in the old days, we got used to an Arcade mode and a Vs mode. That is all we needed it.

What time are you speaking of?

AngryStormGamer has posted a new Video about a new Interview with the producers:

LegendarySSJ4

Budokai 3 was a neat game but I preferred Infinite World/Shin Budokai 2.

So Morgan has been confirmed (?) to be in the story mode? Interesting.

Kurohige

This game looks sick, actually, I just hope Bellamy makes it in. I already got Fujitora and Sanji so I just need one more for my team t be complete.

Tongue-puncher

Back in the old days, we got used to an Arcade mode and a Vs mode. That is all we needed it.

Well I'm glad those days are over.

Watched the interview. I really hope the 3 vs 3 simultaneous battle royale mode becomes a reality. I don't care if it's unbalanced it'll be fun as hell.

At least I hope they were insinuating a 3 vs 3, because a 1 vs 3 mode would be shitty.

Jojolion

Back in the old days, we got used to an Arcade mode and a Vs mode. That is all we needed it.

Standards change. Back in the old days games in general had story modes.

Kurohige

@Tongue-puncher:

Well I'm glad those days are over.

Watched the interview. I really hope the 3 vs 3 simultaneous battle royale mode becomes a reality. I don't care if it's unbalanced it'll be fun as hell.

At least I hope they were insinuating a 3 vs 3, because a 1 vs 3 mode would be shitty.

Well considering this is the same group that made J-stars victory vs I don't see why they couldn't implement that, though yes, it would be very unbalanced haha. Btw, here are some actual matches from the game in English, it's looking great.