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No, I'm saying I know exactly what I'm talking about and everything I've argued is true and correct (except that it is obviously not guaranteed that he will join). Saying "lol you don't know" isn't an argument, it's a personal attack. If you would like to discuss my theory based on it's actual merits rather than "lol I have a degree" or "lol you're stupid" or "lol your AGOG MK II" then feel free, otherwise kindly stop spreading ignorance.
Caribou is being set up to become a straw hat,
and there's where I stopped reading
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I'm wondering if Soapbox is a TVTropes viewer.
From how he misuses DEM, I suspect so.
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The difference is for Robin there were unresolved details about her past and motives, plus hints that she wasn't loyal to Crocodile the whole time. And Franky became a pretty obvious candidate during Ennies Lobby. If you predicted Franky back when he had just mugged Usopp, you would be stupid though, because at that point there was nothing to suggest he'd be a good guy. Caribou right now has no hints to being any deeper then he appears
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(generally all the while refusing to actually show why the theories were flawed), were eventually shown to be wrong. It's just the way it goes, I could also be wrong. Time will tell, I've laid out my views pretty extensively so it's getting redundant to repeat them over and over again.
Except in this case, everybody has showed you why you're wrong, to which you reply "DeRp, ThIs ArE JuSt My OpiNiOn!!1! Y Da HaTe?"
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It's a sad, sad day when Perona is a more viable contender in anything then someone.
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@Robo:
Well, he does seem to be pretty crazy. Also, as you mentioned, it wouldn't be much of a story if nobody touched them from here on out.
Yeah that's true he didn't seem all there
I don't think people are going to fear them. Let me try and clarify, I don't think there's much of a reson of a pirate trying to do whatever (IDK what cariboo dreams are) Let's just say he hopes to make it in the NW to be afraid of Luffy. While he this great Pirate you can't really be afraid of your comp ya know? Kinda like how drake didn't give two shit that he was attacking one of Kaidou's men.
well I think since fluffy used his history as a means to make sure people would never fight back I'd say people do fear it, and as Robo Gorilla said it's very possible this idiots just crazy
and as for drake attacking kaidou's man my theory was that he wanted to join his crew and become his right hand man, I mean I doubt a SN could last two years in the New world with a yonkou after them when they just entered
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@JERK:
Deus ex Machina's don't refer to random happenstance, and they don't mean anything.
Mega-arcs are something you made up both in definition and importance, thus are completely worthless in an argument.
"Parallel" is not any kind of literary technique. There are similar ideas, but they sure as hell are not defined by any basic connection ever.
Soapbox has no idea what he's talking about. And is a clueless poster trying for forums fame by being the first guy to mention some random character for crewmate just in case it comes true.
Just some cool facts I'm sharin'.
Re occurring character we haven't seen since Arlong Park that is specifically used as a mechanism to trap Caribou alone with the Straw Hat Pirates != "random happenstance."
"Mega-arcs are something you made up both in definition and importance, thus are completely worthless in an argument."
I use the term mega arc because "arc" is what people use on Arlong Park so I adapted the language. Try "turning points" or transitions in the progression of the story, if you'd like. Beginning Middle End. That you voluntarily choose to be ignorant here is something I can't control.
That you voluntarily deny the concept of a parallel is also what I must assume to be voluntary ignorance. It's not a simple literary term like anaphora, or the list of terms you memorized in school (lol), sure, but it is a real device used throughout the history of literature. It is widespread in fiction, fantasy, and religious works of literature. It is also sometimes found in non fiction, and it is often used specifically as a means to foreshadow an event. You claim you went to a good school so this is kind of sad.
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Re occurring character we haven't seen since Arlong Park that is specifically used as a mechanism to trap Caribou alone with the Straw Hat Pirates != "random happenstance."
Yeah, it's not as if MohMoo lives near there… oh wait, yeah he does. I know you've read me post this. Quit ignoring this.
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Caribou is being set up to become a straw hat, Oda specifically chose to use Moo Moo to deliver him to the straw hats alone,
Meaningless.
after he already tried to join the straw hats and failed.
For his stated goal of killing them.
It doesn't matter what his "intention" in joining the straw hats is,
It completely does.
I recall this exact situation coming up with the now destroyed Perona faction.
They insisted their own crazy theory over the text, and insisted that the fact that Perona had stated her goals and desires didn't matter.You're ignoring direct text, this is inexcusable.
because Luffy can convert anyone to his side,
You're literally saying..
"Established fact A does not matter because of Possibility B".
You're absolutely bankrupt of logic.
especially if they are traveling with him (which Caribou now is).
Meaningless.
Caribou's delivery to the Straw Hat crew and the circumstances surrounding it are too convenient, and while it's possible that I'm wrong, it's still a very reasonable theory.
No it's completely unreasonable.
One Piece is basic pulp storywriting, it's fucking overflowing with conveninece for everything from gags to the highest most serious plot point.
There is absolutely nothing significant about this droplet of convenience in the ocean of convenience.
Just because you think "omg but he's so ugly and mean lol!" doesn't mean he won't be a nakama six months from now.
Actually I think it's that theree is zero things present suggesting crewmate status that makes people feel this way.
It doesn't even mean it's unlikely. On the contrary, he's a more viable candidate than any of the recent nakama predictions are/were.
He can't lick the shoes of Jimbei and Hancock as potential.
And being better then Perona is the most unimpressive thing to be able to claim on earth.
People spread a lot of vitriol and random hate when people predicted that Robin would join,
ahahahaha
Oh for god sake. You have no idea about this, this was EONS before this forum let alone the former form, let alone your participation here.
You don't have the damndest clue how things went. I can't believe you even thought this would fly lol.You're making slowly and surely every argument the Peronanites did, I can't wait to see your face when you notice the noose.
when people predicted that Franky would join, etc.
As someone who was there, no.
As someone who wasn't there, stop talking about "what happened".
It's just the knee jerk reaction here on AP, "omg someone has a different view than me! RAGE!"
Your view is terrible, lazy, misguided, and shows complete lack of understanding of Oda's style.
It's everything this thread should not have, hell the forum.
But various predictions, which huge percentages of the board did not believe and called stupid (generally all the while refusing to actually show why the theories were flawed), were eventually shown to be wrong.
List them
Also points to sig.
It's just the way it goes, I could also be wrong. Time will tell, I've laid out my views pretty extensively so it's getting redundant to repeat them over and over again.
We already heard your views. Thousands of times before, for every other snap judgement random theory. Most recently for a certain pink haired sex doll.
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SoapBox the fact that your saying caribou will join has basically destroyed anything you said, for the most part the SH's are good people some have a dark side but none would just go about murdering people in fact all but robin go out of their way to help people, remember zoro helping that guy the celestial dragon shot should show you there no where near the same person not many have been so easily defined as a villain hell even arlong had qualities in him this guy, not a shred
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@Robo:
Yeah, it's not as if MohMoo lives near there… oh wait, yeah he does. I know you've read me post this. Quit ignoring this.
It doesn't matter if he "lives near there." That Moo Moo, of all the sea kings in the entire area, was specifically chosen by Oda to be captured by Caribou and Crew, and then to deliver JUST Caribou and then run away with his crew IS a deus ex machina.
**It doesn't matter if he "lives in the area" that 'area' is huge and there are a lot of other sea monsters, that out of all them a specific named and reoccurring character was "randomly" caught and conveniently already knew the strawhats, and was being used to bring the 'villain' to the straw hats, is a deus ex machina.
It does not matter where he lives.**
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This sort of bullshit is not "part of the argument" Brennen, this sort of bullshit is "personal attacks with no substance whatsoever."
It's what I'm talking about. I am not this other person, look up my account, the invisible worm. I've been here for a LONG time and I don't let others use my account, it's sad that you can't accept that some people don't just follow the mob mindset.
Brenen, I saw your response and I will get back to you tomorrow, I'm off to bed for now.
I'll apologize for the AGOG line. I'm sorry. I'll rationally talk about it.
He can turn "good". That's Luffy's thing and it wouldn't be a complete stretch, but he doesn't need to join the crew for that.
The Southbird traveled with them from Jaya to back to the Blue sea in skypiea. Vivi was mentioned and so was Coby, but Mr 9 would also fit your "criteria" of traveling with the crew in between a mega arc. He went with the Strawhats on the first peg of the grad line. Don't know if you think tha is aega arc or not, but it should fit. Sorry if that was answered.
Now for why I don't think he'll join. I also think you're looking too much between the parallel of the kraken and Caribou but this is coming from a guy reaponding with this long post so take it as you will.
First off, he can't be a trouble child on the crew if he reforms. If he truly finds the error of his ways then he loses the trouble child angle you're going for. Unless you're saying he'll want to join to play the I'll kill you someday angle, but there's no need for that if his crew is back or he realizes how strong they are.
Next is what would be his position to fill.
You call his crew fodder but seeing as how they are brothers and he is an active captain on the ship, he has tons more baggage tha anybody else on the crew. His brother Coribou as seen in the chapter seems to be reliant on Caribou for guidance.
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It doesn't matter if he "lives near there." That Moo Moo, of all the sea kings in the entire area, was specifically chosen by Oda to be captured by Caribou and Crew, and then to deliver JUST Caribou and then run away with his crew IS a deus ex machina.
**It doesn't matter if he "lives in the area" that 'area' is huge and there are a lot of other sea monsters, that out of all them a specific named and reoccurring character was "randomly" caught and conveniently already knew the strawhats, and was being used to bring the 'villain' to the straw hats, is a deus ex machina.
**It does not matter where he lives.Do you know what a deus ex machina is?
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SoapBox is obviously seeing something we all are not seeing.
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Jinbei has more depth than Caribou. And he's actually a certain level of importance.
Soapboax counter this.
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@JERK:
Meaningless.
For his stated goal of killing them.
It completely does.I recall this exact situation coming up with the now destroyed Perona faction.
They insisted their own crazy theory over the text, and insisted that the fact that Perona had stated her goals and desires didn't matter.You're ignoring direct text, this is inexcusable.
You're literally saying..
"Established fact A does not matter because of Possibility B".
You're absolutely bankrupt of logic.
Meaningless.
No it's completely unreasonable.
One Piece is basic pulp storywriting, it's fucking overflowing with conveninece for everything from gags to the highest most serious plot point.
There is absolutely nothing significant about this droplet of convenience in the ocean of convenience.
Actually I think it's that theree is zero things present suggesting crewmate status that makes people feel this way.
He can't lick the shoes of Jimbei and Hancock as potential.
And being better then Perona is the most unimpressive thing to be able to claim on earth.
ahahahaha
Oh for god sake. You have no idea about this, this was EONS before this forum let alone the former form, let alone your participation here.
You don't have the damndest clue how things went. I can't believe you even thought this would fly lol.You're making slowly and surely every argument the Peronanites did, I can't wait to see your face when you notice the noose.
As someone who was there, no.
As someone who wasn't there, stop talking about "what happened".
Your view is terrible, lazy, misguided, and shows complete lack of understanding of Oda's style.It's everything this thread should not have, hell the forum.
List themAlso points to sig.
We already heard your views. Thousands of times before, for every other snap judgement random theory. Most recently for a certain pink haired sex doll.
It's stated text that Luffy can convert anyone to his side, not "possibility B". You're ignoring canon and then simultaneously attacking me for ignoring canon. That's illogical and hypocritical.
Caribou is a new character, his current intention IS to destroy the straw hats, I do not dispute this (learn to read, I stated this outright several times).
I said that over time, this goal of his will change, and that this process has already begun in this chapter.
One Piece is basic pulp storywriting, it's fucking overflowing with conveninece for everything from gags to the highest most serious plot point.
There is absolutely nothing significant about this droplet of convenience in the ocean of convenience.
Actually I think it's that theree is zero things present suggesting crewmate status that makes people feel this way.
He can't lick the shoes of Jimbei and Hancock as potential.
And being better then Perona is the most unimpressive thing to be able to claim on earth.
ahahahaha
Neither Jimbei, Perona, or Hancock are joining the crew. There was never anything to imply they would. With Caribou, even though we just met him, there are already signs he will join and I have already elaborated on what those are extensively. That you arbitrarily choose to dismiss those signs and call them trash has no bearing on reality. Your vitriol is not in and of itself a supporting argument.
Oh for god sake. You have no idea about this, this was EONS before this forum let alone the former form, let alone your participation here.
You don't have the damndest clue how things went. I can't believe you even thought this would fly lol.I chilled with Jonas (Jonas23 on the IRC) shut the fuck up. This is just more of your unsubstantiated vitriol. Congrats on your successful predictions, I've had just as many I just don't have the vanity to make a signature about it. Confirmation bias is a great way to live life, I'm sure it keeps you happy and confident (that's good, don't ever lose your confidence).
Actually I think it's that theree is zero things present suggesting crewmate status that makes people feel this way.
Actually several people have stated in this thread and the others where I started this theory that him being ugly specifically restricted him from being a crewmember. This was one of the initial arguments I encountered against my theory, so yes this is an argument people are using, so I had to address it.
He can't lick the shoes of Jimbei and Hancock as potential.
And being better then Perona is the most unimpressive thing to be able to claim on earth.
There is 0 indication that Hancock or Jimbei are going to be SH crewmates. Maybe Jimbei, MAYBE, but not Hancock. It's strongly implied the opposite way, actually. i agree with you on Perona, but Hancock is in the same boat as her and Jimbei is not far behind.
As someone who was there, no.
As someone who wasn't there, stop talking about "what happened".
Ask a mod to check the date for when my account "the invisible worm" was banned for vitriol back when I was an asshole. Do you want to know why there is still a spoiler forum? The mods were deciding to ban spoilers in the chapter forum, I made a thread suggesting they create a spoiler forum with harsh restrictions. It happened. Stop pretending I haven't "been here" just because I am not vain and don't post constantly. I read constantly.
We already heard your views. Thousands of times before, for every other snap judgement random theory. Most recently for a certain pink haired sex doll.
"list them"
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SoapBox, I have yet to see you respond to Sea's claim.
@Sea:
Caribou cannot join because his animal theme is a caribou/reindeer.
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Re occurring character we haven't seen since Arlong Park that is specifically used as a mechanism to trap Caribou alone with the Straw Hat Pirates != "random happenstance."
Mechanism isn't a technique, it's a vanilla word to refer to things that cause things lol.
I'm glad you saw fit to bold it as if it was either impressive to know or notable in the story.
The Perona people made the exact same argument.
Oh Perona is here! She reoccurred! This means something!It didn't. And it doesn't.
There is no significange inherent in the reappearance of a character, LET ALONE a Cow Monster with no speaking lines.
This is undeniable fact."Mega-arcs are something you made up both in definition and importance, thus are completely worthless in an argument."
I use the term mega arc because "arc" is what people use on Arlong Park so I adapted the language.
And the arcs are all artificial guidelines we fit pieces of the story into. They are largely fluid and subjective. There is no meaning to them.
Try "turning points" or transitions in the progression of the story, if you'd like. Beginning Middle End. That you voluntarily choose to be ignorant here is something I can't control.
What am I ignorant of? The fact that these meaningless lines stand out to you? No, I'm well aware of your excitement over nothing.
That you voluntarily deny the concept of a parallel is also what I must assume to be voluntary ignorance.
This is an actual factual logical fallacy. Association fallacy.
The literary concept of creating similarties is usually very light thematic touches. Things like various duos of characters in Twin Peaks sharing names. Only there to make you think of contrasts.You're seeing comparisons in anything and everything and think this means something.
This is the lowest form of logical fallacy. Completely amateur.It's not a simple literary term like anaphora,
Anaphora isn't involved in storytelling you amateur, it's literal writing as in text.
or the list of terms you memorized in school (lol), sure, but it is a real device used throughout the history of literature. It is widespread in fiction, fantasy, and religious works of literature. It is also sometimes found in non fiction, and it is often used specifically as a means to foreshadow an event. You claim you went to a good school so this is kind of sad.
You're talking about patterns, patterns that are sometimes there and sometimes not. And sometimes mean something, and most of the time don't. Because you can find patterns in absolutely any place you look.
And because you're a typical amateur know nothing, you think the patterns you notice are magical exceptions that stand by themselves. You think that for merely being a pattern are significant, rather then potentially suggestive.
You ARE Agog, but only because you're like millions of people like Agog.
Talentless guessworkers who blindly grasp in the dark.
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What depth does Caribou have.
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And Zephos delivers the finisher.
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So Jinbei saying he would protect Luffy with his life, being of great help to Luffy, and actually being friendly to Luffy gives him no indication of possibly joining, while Caribou requiring a total personality overhaul and the abandonment of his brother at the same time does have indicate he'll join?
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Of course the canon fodder was scared however, the other guys Albion i think was his name and the cariboo brothers weren't scared.
Na Drake wanted blood. While a rookie may or may not be able to keep up who's to say ? It could be a personal vendatta drake has causing him to leave the marines. Remember that while the SN's are young in comparsion to the balance of power they're not pushovers. If guys like moriah/croc/ challenged the NW then they're going to have to do the same thing.
first off who's albion I don't remember anyone wanting to kill the SH's after they found out who they were besides the brothers…. link please
I think the diffrence between a shichibukai and a whole yonkou crew is leagues apart, shichibukai are huge powers that can lift the scale in either direction but don't forget yonkou are the only force (besides revolutionaries) that match BOTH shichibukai and the Navy, and since he couldn't handle an admiral I think it's safe to assume he'd get his ass handed to him by a yonkou and his entire crew
So Jinbei saying he would protect Luffy with his life, being of great help to Luffy, and actually being friendly to Luffy gives him no indication of possibly joining, while Caribou requiring a total personality overhaul and the abandonment of his brother at the same time does have indicate he'll join?
HAHAHAHAHAHA your so right on sooooo many levels with such a simple statment I don't think anyones said it better good job
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If you look at chapter 600 page 7 middle panel I believe he's on that page. He didn't attempt to try and kill the SHP or state it but he did join.
http://anime-manga.us/manga/One_Piece/One_Piece_600_English/7
I don't know if he joined from fear or whatever but he doesn't seem like he's afraid.
wait, he joined the SH's not tried to oposse them it's completely different he's not like the two brothers at all, this shows nothing
why would he be afraid of the captain he's working under
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Out of all the people who helped the SHP with their training the only one's we don't see is Mihawk coincidence? I think not.
Mind showing me where the revolutionaries appeared post time-skip, or the people from vegapunk's island? I seem to have missed them.
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So Zoro has no goal now and will just be there among the group.
Yay.
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YAY!! Now Skadi Chan will be satisfied without me having to say it!
! In all honesty, I'd prefer the Kraken over him. Sorry, Skadi!
No problem, don´t worry
PS: Vote for Caribou! His merchandise will increase!! Just look at this adorable plushie my self insert is holding
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@Robo:
Mind showing me where the revolutionaries appeared post time-skip, or the people from vegapunk's island? I seem to have missed them.
there obviously dead too
@Bottlenose:So Zoro has no goal now and will just be there among the group.
Yay.
yep, everyone besides zoro has a goal now
We don't know his reason for joining. We don't know why he joined he could of been more afraid of the pirates in the NW and aligned him self with Luffy. Gashed Albion doesn't scare easy. ^_^
wait…. what's your point then you said he wanted to kill them, but it's clearly like you say, he'd be safer to be with a big shot
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Honestly, with how he is right now, the very best Caribou can do is become an ally even if he does befriend the strawhats. And if, and this is a big if, he does develop further to the point where he'd actually be a viable option (which would need to include a reason for him to abandon his crew and brother to join the SHs) it doesn't change the fact that suggesting it before any signs of such development occured is baseless speculation
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Perona's re occurrence is not the same as what I am describing.
In this situation, Moo Moo re-occurred to deliver a new character to the Strawhat Crew's ship as they are actively transitioning to Fishman Island/New World part of the story.
He delivered Caribou alone, specifically because it was Moo Moo that was towing his ship. Not Moo Moo, then no singled out Caribou, it would have just been Caribou and crew getting their ass kicked by the straw hat pirates instead.
Now instead of that, we're seeing character development in Caribou BECAUSE of Moo Moo. Deus Ex Machina (not random happenstance).
Anaphora isn't involved in storytelling you amateur, it's literal writing as in text.
I used a random literary term from the top of my head, not because it was related (I made NO indication it was, I was ridiculing you for your voluntary ignorance), if you couldn't grasp what I was actually saying there I can't help you, sorry.
This is an actual factual logical fallacy. Association fallacy.
The literary concept of creating similarties is usually very light thematic touches. Things like various duos of characters in Twin Peaks sharing names. Only there to make you think of contrasts.You're seeing comparisons in anything and everything and think this means something.
This is the lowest form of logical fallacy. Completely amateur.Association fallacy is a real fallacy, identifying a parallel is not association fallacy.
Association fallacy:
Premise A is a BPremise A is also a CConclusion Therefore, all Bs are CsThis is not what I am saying at all. Re-read. I draw a different conclusion than what is required for association fallacy, please try not to misapply fallacy accusations in the future. It's ignorant and just more of your unfortunate bitter anger (I assume you're just trolling for fun though).
You're talking about patterns, patterns that are sometimes there and sometimes not. And sometimes mean something, and most of the time don't. Because you can find patterns in absolutely any place you look.
And because you're a typical amateur know nothing, you think the patterns you notice are magical exceptions that stand by themselves. You think that for merely being a pattern are significant, rather then potentially suggestive.
You ARE Agog, but only because you're like millions of people like Agog.
Talentless guessworkers who blindly grasp in the dark.
"You ARE Agog, but only because you're like millions of people like Agog."
Association Fallacy. Funny that you called it
This is the lowest form of logical fallacy. Completely amateur.
You're talking about patterns, patterns that are sometimes there and sometimes not. And sometimes mean something, and most of the time don't. Because you can find patterns in absolutely any place you look.
And because you're a typical amateur know nothing, you think the patterns you notice are magical exceptions that stand by themselves. You think that for merely being a pattern are significant, rather then potentially suggestive.
You can find patterns anywhere and that is why I have gone through extensive effort and made extensive explanations of how these specific ones are real and legitimate. "You can find patterns anywhere" does not negate that there are also real and meaningful patterns in literature.
Nice try, you're a decent troll but you fail in that you don't actually know what you are talking about and fall into the very fallacies that you accuse others of.
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Honestly, with how he is right now, the very best Caribou can do is become an ally even if he does befriend the strawhats. And if, and this is a big if, he does develop further to the point where he'd actually be a viable option (which would need to include a reason for him to abandon his crew and brother to join the SHs) it doesn't change the fact that suggesting it before any signs of such development occured is baseless speculation
I wouldn't call it "baseless" but I would agree with you that at this point it is just a prediction I made for fun and have justified as much as possible with the information we have available.
I called it a prediction from the very beginning, not canon.
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How many people are stupid enough to think he'll join we need to count
it is baseless
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Ok, it's based on the fact that he is on a ship with the SHs. You like parallels, here are a few: Coby was on the ship with Luffy at a point. So were Johnny and Yosaku. So were Vivi and Carue. So were the franky family and the Galley La company members. Something they all have in common: NONE OF THEM ARE ACTIVE CREW MEMBERS
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Lol at SoapBox trying to get all formulating.
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How many people are stupid enough to think he'll join we need to count
it is baseless
stupidly raises hand: count me in! ♫
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How many people are stupid enough to think he'll join we need to count
it is baseless
No, something that is baseless has nothing to support it. I've provided considerable support for the theory that has yet to be debunked in any meaningful way, just accusations of being an "amateur" and false fallacy attributions (followed by the same poster actually engaging in said fallacy), and etcetera.
The sad thing is I always thought that poster was pretty intelligent when I was reading over the past several months, but his vitriol and inability to consider that he might be wrong on any point ever makes it hard to continue that respect. He probably won't even admit he committed the association fallacy he accused me of even though it was a picture perfect example of it, or he'll claim it was "on purpose."
Some people just have too much vanity, such is life.
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Ok, it's based on the fact that he is on a ship with the SHs. You like parallels, here are a few: Coby was on the ship with Luffy at a point. So were Johnny and Yosaku. So were Vivi and Carue. So were the franky family and the Galley La company members. Something they all have in common: NONE OF THEM ARE ACTIVE CREW MEMBERS
as someone pointed out mr.9 was too, and I'm sure there's more
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It's stated text that Luffy can convert anyone to his side, not "possibility B".
That is Possibility B.
You're ignoring canon and then simultaneously attacking me for ignoring canon. That's illogical and hypocritical.
You're sinking to Phenomonyl levels now I see. Wonderful.
Misuse and misunderstanding of what "canon" means.
Thinking hyperbolic descriptions of a character by other characters is the same as a character's direct statement of their own goal.Also thinking that goal is an iron law that must be adhered to with any character. As you have denied this conversion as being a possibility, I'm only going to have to assume you think it is a guarentee.
Hell, even if Caribou is impressed by Luffy this is miles from the status of crewmate.
Caribou is a new character, his current intention IS to destroy the straw hats, I do not dispute this (learn to read, I stated this outright several times).
You have writte it aside, you know it's there and completely disregard it as mattering or being in the way. You're lazily skipping the step of plausibility.
"Oh yeah that thing, well wahtever dosn't matter".
I said that over time, this goal of his will change, and that this process has already begun in this chapter.
Only a fool would theorize with so little for so much.
Neither Jimbei, Perona, or Hancock are joining the crew. There was never anything to imply they would.
You are a complete joke.
Jimbei is STILL are more likely to join then Caribou.
With Caribou, even though we just met him, there are already signs he will join
No there isn't.
and I have already elaborated on what those are extensively.
A bunch of arbitrarily assigned "significant" medals that mean nothing.
You have nothing at all.
I chilled with Jonas (Jonas23 on the IRC) shut the fuck up.
You claim to have talking with a random senior member eons ago before this forum existed. Congratulations.
This is just more of your unsubstantiated vitriol. Congrats on your successful predictions, I've had just as many I just don't have the vanity to make a signature about it. Confirmation bias is a great way to live life, I'm sure it keeps you happy and confident (that's good, don't ever lose your confidence).
Confirmation bias doesn't mean what you think it means.
A sentence that is going to see a lot of use I can tell.
Actually several people have stated in this thread and the others where I started this theory that him being ugly specifically restricted him from being a crewmember.
Oh alright, I guess that means you can claim this as THE reason people are against him.
This certainly makes sense.There is 0 indication that Hancock or Jimbei are going to be SH crewmates.
The caliber of "indication" you are using is shit like:
-he just happened to be here.
By your own paper thin logic, Jimbei is already on the crew.
Ask a mod to check the date for when my account "the invisible worm" was banned for vitriol back when I was an asshole.
It isn't banned, and it's younger then me.
I'm s Do you want to know why there is still a spoiler forum? The mods were deciding to ban spoilers in the chapter forum, I made a thread suggesting they create a spoiler forum with harsh restrictions. It happened. Stop pretending I haven't "been here" just because I am not vain and don't post constantly. I read constantly.
Then explain the bullshit you're spewing about Franky and Robin, being as the scenarios never happened.
I didn't even post on AP when Franky was first showing up, and I was a member on the original AP."list them"
Paulie, Perona, Hancock, Margaret, Vivi, and every single bad idea ever basically.
I'm not even sure what this was supposed to prove. You post terrible typical arguments.
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Ok, it's based on the fact that he is on a ship with the SHs. You like parallels, here are a few: Coby was on the ship with Luffy at a point. So were Johnny and Yosaku. So were Vivi and Carue. So were the franky family and the Galley La company members. Something they all have in common: NONE OF THEM ARE ACTIVE CREW MEMBERS
Incorrect, this is not the basis of my theory. Go back several pages and find my first post, then read each of my posts. Once you have actually read what I have had to say, then you can claim to know the 'basis' of my theory. That he is on the ship at this time is a supporting factor, not a foundation. I've explained the foundation for this theory in detail that's why I know you haven't read my actual posts.
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Here are some problems with Caribou: He's evil. He wants to kill the Strawhats. He has his own crew and goals. As a captain, his dream probably couldn't be achieved under someone else. He kills people, and Oda hates killing off characters unless it is neccesary to further the story like Ace and Whitebeard's deaths were. He also has absolutely no depth that we know of. And I'm sure I could think of more given the time