It's MAHVEL Vs CAPGOD 3 BAYBEE!!!

KingofSarus

MVSC2 had its own kinda of balance imo. Everyone in the game had an infinite even Dan.

Hell yeah!

I'm sure Roll has one. I'm damn sure Servbot has one.

That's what most people complain about Marvel vs Capcom 2.

"It's unfair! It's not balanced!"

Yeah, yeah, but that's why you can have a team of three people with assisting. Some 'certain' teams can be defeated with 'certain' teams!

Come on now.

Captain Shmeckie

@KingofSarus:

Hell yeah!

I'm sure Roll has one. I'm damn sure Servbot has one.

That's what most people complain about Marvel vs Capcom 2.

"It's unfair! It's not balanced!"

Yeah, yeah, but that's why you can have a team of three people with assisting. Some 'certain' teams can be defeated with 'certain' teams!

Come on now.

Look at Magneto's juggle infinite with crouching HP. That's just bad programming no matter what excuse you try to make.

Also, your team of three people better include Magneto, Storm, Cable, or Sentinel if you don't wanna get ass raped by someone with a team consisting of Magneto, Storm, Cable, or Sentinel. The game's massive imbalance basically making the roster of people you pretty much have to use come to a whopping four.

Whoo, take me for a ride, MVC2! With all FOUR of your worthwhile characters!

KingofSarus

@Captain:

Look at Magneto's juggle infinite with crouching HP. That's just bad programming no matter what excuse you try to make.

Point taken. :getlost:

Also, your team of three people better include Magneto, Storm, Cable, or Sentinel if you don't wanna get ass raped by someone with a team consisting of Magneto, Storm, Cable, or Sentinel.

God… I hate those four.

Although, I use Magneto and Storm for fun with Dictator.

I absolulely HATE Cable and Sentinel.
I had friends and cousins who uses the shit outta them so I had to find a way to defeat them and I did.

Sigh... Magneto does make my victory quicker...

But, I try to use Capcom characters anyways.

The game's massive imbalance basically making the roster of people you pretty much have to use come to a whopping four.

I guess. You do see them ALOT in tournaments.
But, at least it ain't like 8 or 12 assholes like Magneto, Storm, Cable, and Sentinel.

They are the "Shadaloo of Marvel vs Capcom 2"

Whoo, take me for a ride, MVC2! With all FOUR of your worthwhile characters!

Most cars can seat five people… :ninja:

NGeno

Hulk and Wolverine tore MvC1's balance apart.

The only way to achieve perfect balance is to make every character exactly the same. And that's boring.

I'd rather have a lot of characters than a finely balanced game.

Toshiya

At the arcade I see more characters being use by top players. Saw a Cyclops, Cammy, Cap.Commando beating a Sentinal, Storm, Cable team.

Lazzie

You should just assume bad balance for EVERY Capcom game with Marvel characters in it. The ENTIRE CAST of X-Men Vs. Street Fighter has at least one infinite combo, including Zangief. Magneto from that game and its predecessor is also legendarily broke.

But hey, MvC3 should be some good ol' funsanity. As if SF4 didn't cause enough of a fighting game renaissance, they had to revive that series too, hahaha.

Darkstorm

I remember my local newsagent had X-men COTA back in the day. I only managed to defeat magneto about 25% of the time, his super was insane, it took serious damage even if you blocked.

Lazzie

@NGeno:

Hulk and Wolverine tore MvC1's balance apart.

The only way to achieve perfect balance is to make every character exactly the same. And that's boring.

I'd rather have a lot of characters than a finely balanced game.

Is it so wrong to want a game with good character variety AND good balance? I mean, look at Street Fighter 4! Very good balance, a whopping 25 characters, and practically the epitome of easy to learn, difficult to master. Capcom has a new balance standard, but there is no way that MvC3 can match it, lawl.

StrawHatRican

@Lazzie:

Is it so wrong to want a game with good character variety AND good balance? I mean, look at Street Fighter 4! Very good balance, a whopping 25 characters, and practically the epitome of easy to learn, difficult to master. Capcom has a new balance standard, but there is no way that MvC3 can match it, lawl.

Not to mention Super SFIV has 35 characters and word is the game is finely tuned.

Lazzie

@StrawHatRican:

Not to mention Super SFIV has 35 characters and word is the game is finely tuned.

srsly. By the time we get to Super Street Fighter IV: Turbo, it'll break SF Alpha 3's distinction of the most characters in a SF game.

StrawHatRican

@Lazzie:

srsly. By the time we get to Super Street Fighter IV: Turbo, it'll break SF Alpha 3's distinction of the most characters in a SF game.

I wish… Ono said he's done with the SFIV series as far as making new games comes (new dlc yes...games no). He wants to work on something else...

Darkstalkers maybe :D?

sanji499

@Captain:

To expand on what Zkaiser said about the atmosphere, one big thing MvC1 had over 2 was its boss: MVC2 had some made-up bullshit guy that just turned into random gooey things. MVC1 had fucking Onslaught! One of the most epic Marvel villains of all time, and my personal favorite of them! And then there's his theme:

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I'll take that shit over some uninspired jazz music anyday!

Yes, Onslaught was undeniabely the best boss of the Marvel vs Capcom cross over. The setting and the music were perfect. Having an assist character like Psylocke helped a lot to defeat his first form. When, you know the tactic to defeat him, it becomes easy because it is a computer.

My second favourite boss was Apocalypse. I was really impressed by his huge size (especially with a HQ arcade cabinet). He was not as cool as Onslaught but he was a memorable one indeed. When you know the tactic it is heasy.

Abyss comes 3rd because he was at least original and gave me hard time. I am not a big fan of him. He is forgettable.

The worst has to be Cyber Akuma. Capcom was really lazy. The idea of making Akuma a machine sounded really stupid. They should have just call him Shin Akuma like the Capcom vs Snk games.

KingofSarus

@StrawHatRican:

I wish… Ono said he's done with the SFIV series as far as making new games comes (new dlc yes...games no). He wants to work on something else...

Darkstalkers maybe :D?

Hell naw, he better not fuck up Street Fighter tradition.

"Three games per Street Fighter".

StrawHatRican

@KingofSarus:

Hell naw, he better not fuck up Street Fighter tradition.

"Three games per Street Fighter".

I dunno man he sounded pretty final… and I WNAT me some Darkstalkers in 3D :D

KingofSarus

Yeah, but I also want Super Street Fighter IV Turbo son.

Hiroy

I wonder if the characters would have expressions opposed to stiff looking cel shaded faces.

KingofSarus

If it's going to take a lot to add expressions, which would most likely decreasing the number of characters due to space, then I wouldn't mind having 100+ stiff looking characters.

Tizoc

@StrawHatRican:

I dunno man he sounded pretty final… and I WNAT me some Darkstalkers in 3D :D

…but 2D Darkstalkers had some amazing animations/GIFs, decapitations and whatnot.

KingofSarus

Yeah, but I'd love to see Darkstalkers 4 in a Street Fighter IV kind of way.

Then again, I'd also love to see Capcom create a new kind of eye candy.

StrawHatRican

@KingofSarus:

Yeah, but I'd love to see Darkstalkers 4 in a Street Fighter IV kind of way.

Then again, I'd also love to see Capcom create a new kind of eye candy.

Personally I want the look of BazBlue with the fluid animation of SF3 and the 1080p wizardy of SF4 effects.

:D

KingofSarus

The funny thing is, I was going to say BlazBlue, but the back of my mind kept saying "No… nigga... no."

StrawHatRican

@KingofSarus:

The funny thing is, I was going to say BlazBlue, but the back of my mind kept saying "No… nigga... no."

As far as high res pixels go… BlazBlue is currently at the top imo.

Accelerator

How about BlazBlue's sprite resolution with KOFXII's animation?

Btw, I would love Ono to revive Rival Schools. Man, I missed that series so much.

StrawHatRican

Wait… you're implying KoF's animation is more fluid than SF3...

No way O_o

(There's a license issue with Rival Schools I believe, I'll check on it thou)

Accelerator

Well it looks better to me though.

Oh, and I think the only licensing issue with Rival Schools is the about the soundtracks and how Capcom can't put the game on XBLA/PSN because of that.

I still think they can make a new Rival Schools. Why would they put Batsu on Tatsunoko vs Capcom, then? I'm also hoping that he would be put in this MvC3 along with other Rival Schools character.

StrawHatRican

@StrawHatRican:

Personally I want the look of BazBlue with the fluid animation of SF3 and the 1080p wizardy of SF4 effects.

:D

I just saw a video and SF3 has more frames per second that KoFXII.

Looks wise I had BlazBlue cuz on a side by side comparison BlazBue is MORE vibrant and sharp.

Not to say KofXII is BAD looking, just lesser in the current example.

I want me some KoFXIII thou dammit.

@bunshindattebayo:

Well it looks better to me though.

Oh, and I think the only licensing issue with Rival Schools is the about the soundtracks and how Capcom can't put the game on XBLA/PSN because of that.

I still think they can make a new Rival Schools. Why would they put Batsu on Tatsunoko vs Capcom, then? I'm also hoping that he would be put in this MvC3 along with other Rival Schools character.

I seriously want Batsu in MvC3 (maybe even SHOMA :w00t:)

Accelerator

Yeah, Shoma was one of my favorite. But Akira is a must.

I also can't wait to get KoFXIII the only reason being there's an HD Mai.

StrawHatRican

@bunshindattebayo:

Yeah, Shoma was one of my favorite. But Akira is a must.

I also can't wait to get KoFXIII the only reason being there's an HD Mai.

Oh shit… Akira AND HER brother Daigo! fangasm

:3 and Maiiiii

:wub:

Accelerator

It's sad to see how underrated the Rival Schools franchise is seeing how a fun team-fighter that game was.

Only a few people care about it.

StrawHatRican

@bunshindattebayo:

It's sad to see how underrated the Rival Schools franchise is seeing how a fun team-fighter that game was.

Only a few people care about it.

I was raised in a video store and I remember when we ordered that game for the PSX I almost couldn't sleep the day before it came.

I was SERIOUSLY all about a 3D Vs. type game (at the time I was ALL about X-Men Vs. Street Fighter on the Saturn).

I was NOT dissapointed.

KingofSarus

Darkstalkers 4 in Street Fighter III graphics? :w00t:

sanji499

@bunshindattebayo:

It's sad to see how underrated the Rival Schools franchise is seeing how a fun team-fighter that game was.

Only a few people care about it.

I love this series as well. One of my favourite franchise.
If Capcom can release terrible live action movie with Chun Li. They can do something about that Franchise.

http://www.projectjustice.tk/

AN excellent fansite, there are tons of great facts about the characters. They even have a detail explanation of the event mode that was not released in the US.

Megadoomer

I just hope we don't wind up with characters like "Bone-Claw Wolverine" adding filler to the roster. I'd like the characters to be unique, even if their powers or playing-styles are similar.

Also, I'd like Viewtiful Joe and Deadpool playable, but that's besides the point.

Captain Shmeckie

With all this demand for a giant, unrealistic roster, I can't help but ask: why not just get MUGEN?! Hell, MUGEN already has a Deadpool. A good one, too.

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StrawHatRican

@Captain:

With all this demand for a giant, unrealistic roster, I can't help but ask: why not just get MUGEN?! Hell, MUGEN already has a Deadpool. A good one, too.

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Prob cuz some of us just want to buy a game instead of messing with amateur pixel smashing.

Althou I've seen some GOOD mugen editing thou.

Captain Shmeckie

"Amateur pixel smashing?!" You've never actually played it, have you?

StrawHatRican

@Captain:

"Amateur pixel smashing?!" You've never actually played it, have you?

Tried but couldn't seen GOOD videos and Bad.

Calm down.

Some edits are TERRIBLE pixel smashings.

TERRIBLE.

Some WOULD give Capcom a run for their money… but I rather get an official product. That's just the anti-piracy person in me (funny considering we're in a "pirate" themed forum.

Captain Shmeckie

MUGEN has nothing to do with piracy (except maybe how they get the sprites). It's either conversion (Warusaki3's characters are virtually perfectly emulated CVS2 characters), or enhancements (i.e. PotS' conversions. Dan's Ultimate Taunt is the best thing I have ever seen), and alterations, giving you characters you can't get anywhere else (I'm emphasizing the good ones, here. No one's forcing anyone to download the shitty characters).

There's some great shit out there:

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! That's me playing, by the way.

StrawHatRican

@Captain:

MUGEN has nothing to do with piracy (except maybe how they get the sprites). It's either conversion (Warusaki3's characters are virtually perfectly emulated CVS2 characters), or enhancements (i.e. PotS' conversions. Dan's Ultimate Taunt is the best thing I have ever seen), and alterations, giving you characters you can't get anywhere else (I'm emphasizing the good ones, here. No one's forcing anyone to download the shitty characters).

There's some great shit out there:

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! That's me playing, by the way.

Well shit son… how the fuck you start it up...cuz I'm a retard at setting it up?

X.x

That video is Legit.

Captain Shmeckie

Download it here:

http://randomselect.piiym-net.com/hosted/misc/win-mugen_no_limit_patch.zip

This should help get you started:

http://www.mugenfury.com/tutorials/aides/help.htm

If you have any other questions, PM me, and I'll walk you through it. Next, you'll need some stuff. You can dowload characters, stages, lifebars, and screenpacks at the following sites:

http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?board=309.0

http://www.mugen-infantry.net/

http://www.mgbr.net/

http://randomselect.piiym-net.com/

http://www.mugenchina.org/dzbbs/forumdisplay.php?fid=8

Creators to seek out first for the best characters would be P.o.t.S., and Warusaki3. And here's some guides in case you have trouble:

Optimizing WinMugen Keeping it from crashing as much

Adding characters in mugen for dummies

If you get the dreaded "assert failure in charsel.c line 3162"

How to add a motif/screenpack to Mugen.

Luckily I gave all this to someone else, and kept the PM. :)

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And this is why you'll be getting it.