Whoa, I feel negative vibes here. I'll wait till this calms down a bit.
All I wanna know is if the chap's out.
Did this thread ever have positive vibes in it? :wassat:
Whoa, I feel negative vibes here. I'll wait till this calms down a bit.
All I wanna know is if the chap's out.
Did this thread ever have positive vibes in it? :wassat:
@mumbo230:
Did this thread ever have positive vibes in it? :wassat:
Strange as it sounds, yes. Usually when we talk about NF or if by some once in a lifetime occurence that people here actually like the latest Naruto chapter.
@mumbo230:
Did this thread ever have positive vibes in it? :wassat:
Sasuke is awesome. Discuss.
Yea, ever since this thread started this has been more positive than the Wiggles.
Sandaime put up an effin' fight that's what! If Sandaime had lost as easily as Orochimaru did we'd be calling THAT fight BS as well instead of epic. Orochimaru beats his teacher who during that same fight gave him a lot of trouble yet he loses easily to Sasuke with hardly any effort at all? I don't see how you can't find that unbelievable.
Was it an epic fight? No but Oro had Sasuke dead to rights if he wanted to kill him when he knocked him out with the poison. The fight was very anti-climatic and that is Kishie's fault. He should of had gave Oro a good send off, like he did with the 3rd and etc. I agree with you there, but the train of thought of it being unbelievable is not true. Maybe, you are using the wrong words here. Maybe you meant, it was unbelievable because it sucked and was anti-climatic. You would have a point there.
Except that Sasuke's got a one track mind and nothing else. After getting revenge Sasuke has nothing going for him. Unless Naruto get's the kill first only for Sasuke to make Naruto his next target for Avengerdom. I mean that would be the only way I would see Sasuke being of any importance after Itachi's death.
I really dont want to write a long essay on Sasuke's development through out the manga. He is driven right now by Itachi, that is true. His long term goals, were to kill Itachi and revive his clan. He can still do step 2 after he kills Itachi, if he does. He also has strong bonds to certain characters, no matter how much he tries to hide it. He knows and the reader knows it is there. The way he smiled at Naruto's name on the bridge futher proves that. His speech to Sakura at the end of Part 1, said it all. He felt he was getting soft in Konoha, he enjoyed being with her and Naruto but they were slowly taking him away from his goal. Oro also said the same thing to Kabuto about Naruto's and Sasuke's relationship. He needed to get Sasuke away from Naruto before Naruto changed his heart. Through out part 1, you say Sasuke slowly embrace team 7 and deeply care for them. When his first reaction to Itachi being in Konoha to get Naruto, it was to protect Naruto not to kill Sasuke. But once, he got mind-raped his whole attitude changed again.
No I'm talking about the ninja villages in Naruto. Maybe you should pay attention more. Do you honestly think they'd welcome back any missing nin if they begged for forgiveness? Heck do you think Konoha would welcome back Itachi? You've gotta be kidding me. These people are missing nin for a reason. Heck the whole Zabuza arc alone showed us that any respectable ninja village wouldn't accept traitor's back into their ranks. Kakashi even explained this after Haku took Zabuza away. Missing nin are traitors and let's face it Sasuke was going to give Konoha's biggest enemy the sharingan. That makes him a threat to the village's safety. No way would they allow Sasuke back like nothing ever happened.
And Jirayia wanted Oro to come back to the village after Oro left. Did you forget that part? You cant compare Itachi and Sasuke because Sasuke didnt kill a whole clan full of people. He just left. Like Jirayia did, like Asuma did and like other nins have.
and wait… You're calling Tsunade a missing nin? She's a freakin' sennin and they have special privilleges to leave the village. That's why Jiraiya could come and go as he pleased.
Yeah, she was a missing nin. Sannin was a nickname, not some come and go as you please card. Jirayia didnt really go and come as he pleased. He left the village and was luckily found by Naruto. I am not sure where you getting he was a sennin and could do what he want. That was clearly not the case.
Indeed heck from what I remember Sandaime knew every single elemental type and Kakashi is a guy who knows over a thousand jutsu. There's no excuse why Naruto only knows two.
Yeah, he knows more than 2 jutsus but we are splitting hairs here. He should learn more and most likely will have a decent enough bag of tricks before/ if he becomes Hokage.
I would like them to be able to put up a better fight than what we've seen. Anyone will say after reading back through the Sasori fight that Sasori was a force to be reckoned with and he was considered the weakest. For a group of S-class criminals trying to take over the world they don't seem like such a large global threat to me. Heck they seem more like hench goons for the eventual final boss super Sasuke at the end of the series.
Sasori the weakest? Naw, I dont think so. Besides Itachi and Kisame, I think he is the strongest Akatsuki we have seen so far. This is also splitting hairs though, because he is dead and it doesnt matter anymore. The akatuski are goons, they are just a group of missing nins. They are powerful but numbers kill. They are only 9 people. They have to build an army to do any real damage, that is the reason they were hiding in the shadows. They would get smoked by any village, if they were in the open.
Let's face it the fights in part one were a whole lot better at least the villains didn't lose pathetically… Well some of them did but at least it was in a way that didn't make it look like total shit.
This diedra vs Sasuke fight, is one of the best in the whole manga. Hey and I liked the Hidan vs Shika fight, even though it was one-sided.
Except that he is. Everything Sasuke has done throughout the whole story has been driven by his revenge and need to be an avenger. That's really the only facet of his personality. Outside of that what is Sasuke? The dark, brooding, cool guy who'll save his friends in a pinch? I'm sorry but I'm having a hard time seeing how he isn't one-dimensional.
Once again you are confusing goals with personality. You can say this quote about anybody in any manga. So and so goal is to this. He is driven by this. Blah, blah, but that is not there personality. Blackbeard and Luffy are driven by the same goal and their personality is totally different. One-dimesional is only showing one side of you, We have seen many sides of Sasuke.
Once again you are confusing goals with personality. You can say this quote about anybody in any manga. So and so goal is to this. He is driven by this. Blah, blah, but that is not there personality. Blackbeard and Luffy are driven by the same goal and their personality is totally different. One-dimesional is only showing one side of you, We have seen many sides of Sasuke.
So I'm basically talking too a SasuTard… You know I was going to make a huge deal and respond to this but now I don't see the point. Because no matter what I say you're still going to be praising Sasuke to high heaven. I know you probably think Sasuke is the greatest thing to ever happen to this series... but really he's not.
Not even close to it too.
Personal attacks are a sign of desperation.
Ah beside the annoying Saskue theme( i think this argue is getting us nowhere and history will prove me right ) think the last chapter was really good. A creative fight. with a much more likeable villian than the "hero".
Art is a Bang and letting explode every lifeform in the area. It had really a nice touch. And an enemy thinking a few steps ahead, was much more enjoyable then the last Hidan//Kakazu fight.
i really will miss Deidra.. Art is Bang.. thats just hilarious.
@Oboro:
Hey people, a question: Why do you define the Hidan-Kakuzu chapters as an "arc"? How many chapters was that? something more than 20, I'd say? an arc should be something bigger, no? I mean, the Save gaara one was barely an arc…
Well, it was longer than the penis arc. The whole Hidan/Kakuzu arc was 32 chapters I think.
Also I liked that arc. Hidan and Kakuzu were interesting characters even if they ended up being fodder.
@Geg:
Well, it was longer than the penis arc.
The what arc?!?! to which arc do you reffering?
Did i miss some Hentai in naruto?
Personal attacks are a sign of desperation.
Desparation of what? Not wanting to respond to the same exact points multiple times? I don't need to pursue an argument with a Sasuke fan on the interwebz to be cool. Especially if it's one that's just going to go in circles.
Kishi's latest design:
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Desparation of what? Not wanting to respond to the same exact points multiple times? I don't need to pursue an argument with a Sasuke fan on the interwebz to be cool. Especially if it's one that's just going to go in circles.
Point?
He was merely pointing out that you confuse pasts and goals with personality,and that sasuke isn't one dimensional because we see many sides of him(not sure I agree with the 2nd statement tho)
How that equals being a sasutard, I just don't know. All I saw was something you couldn't explain so you resorted to flaming.
hmm, well you do realize on my quote of you, that my counterpoints where in the red right? And that post was about more than just sasuke.
I actually agreed with you on some points but I just think your wording was wrong. Read my response to the Oro vs Sasuke fight. I said it was poorly done and anti-climatic. I just dont see as "unbelievable" as you put it. Like I said, we are splitting hairs.
And when did I praise Sasuke to high heaven? Are you getting me confused with other Sasuke fans? I thought we was having a decent convo although we were going in circles. But you wanting to go the immature route and you calling me tard? Right ok.
Why does a debate have to get heated? Shit wasnt really called for, but hey different strokes for different folks.
Point?
He was merely pointing out that you confuse pasts and goals with personality,and that sasuke isn't one dimensional because we see many sides of him(not sure I agree with the 2nd statement tho)
How that equals being a sasutard, I just don't know. All I saw was something you couldn't explain so you resorted to flaming.
Oh so explaining his points THEN calling him a sasutard would not be flaming? I see… I see...
But still point being what? A lot of Sasuke's personality is tied to revenge. All I'm saying is that after Sasuke's revenge is out of the way what is there left for his character? Reviving the clan? So basically we'll only get to see Sasuke making cameo's with the girl of the week he's made into a Uchiha baby factory?
and that's if he does go back like nothing ever happened.
or if Sasuke does go to Ninja Jail that'll probably be the last we see of him if Itachi is dead at that time. If not Sasuke will just be killed off. That's just how one-dimensional Sasuke is. What point of Sasuke's personality could be capitalized on after Itachi's death to keep Sasuke important?
Oh and Tony I thought this alone
This diedra vs Sasuke fight, is one of the best in the whole manga.
gave me enough of a reason to call him a SasuTard, but fine I apologize if I was out of line. Heaven forbid I was actually trying to keep it from going that way.
I actually agreed with you on some points but I just think your wording was wrong. Read my response to the Oro vs Sasuke fight. I said it was poorly done and anti-climatic. I just dont see as "unbelievable" as you put it. Like I said, we are splitting hairs.
I said it was unbelivable because it was. Instead of having an epic fight we get to see Orochimaru turn into a freakin' snake and die easily. Yeah that's really how I expected a big bad guy like Orochimaru to go out.
And when did I praise Sasuke to high heaven? Are you getting me confused with other Sasuke fans? I thought we was having a decent convo although we were going in circles. But you wanting to go the immature route and you calling me tard? Right ok.
I'm not going to go into the SasuTard thing because hey I just apologized for that in the last post, but it is nice to see how people pull out the "immature" remark as if you think you're more mature than me just because I called you an overzealous Sasuke fanboy, and you're right we were going in circles which was why I decided on going that route and ending it. Because it's just not worth my time or yours to continue on it.
You see by calling his opponent a Sasutard and establishing himself as above such a foolish debate, Aethos can create the illusion that he didn't, in fact horribly lose the argument.
I'm not going to go into the SasuTard thing because hey I just apologized for that in the last post, but it is nice to see how people pull out the "immature" remark as if you think you're more mature than me just because I called you an overzealous Sasuke fanboy,
I guess in your view, going to name calling is a sign of maturity. Can't change somebody's view on certain topics so you result to name calling.
Yeah, me liking a certain fight makes me a Sasuke tard. Great logic there. And how exactly is that? Most of the manga bashers on this forum and others thought this was a pretty good fight so far. But I guess since I like it and I dont despise Sasuke like others seem to do im an overzealous sasuke fanboy. :blink:
Holla back when you can articulate arguments without resorting to name calling because somebody didn't agree with you. I am sure that is not going to be the last time somebody didnt share your opinion. And the reason, I am taking it further cause u apoligized than added another snide remark in there.
Kishi's latest design:
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Freaking hilarious
Why do people bother responding to Aethos
Kishi's latest design:
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Lol, that looks more like Oda's work tbh.
The new ending. Well, it was pretty badass but it could use some improvement. More Lee in shorts, less Sakura cutting her hair and spreading lice everywhere seriously that was disgusting
wow, it's getting kinda stuffy in here! Well, just remember that after you're all done name calling and debating usless shit, it'll all end up to personal preferences and opinion in the end.
except the artwork, it's a fact that it's lazy as hell
Holy shit, that ending to Shippuden is awesome. Fuck ninjas, Kishi needs to make Naruto look like that. Even he can't mess up how awesome a High School Naruto manga would be. Love Naruto's outfit too.
Saw the ending myself…sort of liked the "Onizuka" idea with Naruto being a kick-butt teacher..but we need another mangaka writing this series, not Kishi. (oh, and I'm also sick of the "hair-cutting Sakura"...yeesh, we got it the first time, stop rubbing it in)
You see by calling his opponent a Sasutard and establishing himself as above such a foolish debate, Aethos can create the illusion that he didn't, in fact horribly lose the argument.
Fine if it will please your ego then I "horribly lost the argument." Because e-fights about Naruto are serious business on the internet. Of course would it have been better for me to respond to the argument and continue going in circles about it? I don't think so because it would have just gotten annoying.
I guess in your view, going to name calling is a sign of maturity. Can't change somebody's view on certain topics so you result to name calling.
No I just think it's funny that you consider THAT name calling and thus you question my maturity on that alone. Oh and if I remember right wasn't it you who was trying to change my views? That's how I took it considering how much you were trying to prove that Sasuke beating Orochimaru was believable.
Yeah, me liking a certain fight makes me a Sasuke tard. Great logic there. And how exactly is that? Most of the manga bashers on this forum and others thought this was a pretty good fight so far. But I guess since I like it and I dont despise Sasuke like others seem to do im an overzealous sasuke fanboy. :blink:
Hmmm well then I could mention that you seem to hold Sasuke's character in high regard and seem to ignore the faults that the supposed haters bring up. I would think that's enough too. Oh but considering everything I say is wrong according to you and Bellamy I'm sure you'll just disregard that.
Holla back when you can articulate arguments without resorting to name calling because somebody didn't agree with you. I am sure that is not going to be the last time somebody didnt share your opinion. And the reason, I am taking it further cause u apoligized than added another snide remark in there.
Oh so just because I called you a SasuTard you go on the offensive and claim that I don't accept other people's opinions because they don't agree with mine?
Laugh Out Loud… Oh Wow... Just wow...
You know? Maybe you're right. Maybe I shouldn't step back into "da hood" and start up "trouble in your neighborhood" until I completely believe there's no tards in the fandom at all and that there is no such thing as biasedness. Fo' shizzle.
A question though. You sure that you're not the one getting hot headed because I called you a SasuTard instead of agreeing with everything you said?
Back on topic though. The ending was pretty cool... I wouldn't say it was great but it was original.
Fine if it will please your ego then I "horribly lost the argument."
It does! Thank you.
Uchihas reproduce asexually.
Discuss!
Couldn't they just make a clone of yourself and have it transform into a girl and have babies that way?
So how is Naruto the only member of his own clan and how is there no history on the rest of his family?
Naruto's family was killed in a drive by prior to the beginning of the manga. Yes, all of them. Their names and records were buried next to the cartridges of ET for the Atari.
was the driver drunken?
Couldn't use just make a clone of yourself and have it transform into a girl and have babies that way?
Well that's assuming that if a clone changed gender then the naughty bits would be perfectly functional. Of course then the clone would have to hang around for 9 months to go through pregnancy unless they're some sort of magic instant baby making bloodline limit.
Of course if you could have sex with yourself, you'd end up with super-retard ninja babies. Heh.
Naruto is actually a robot clone of the Yondaime sent through time.
@Cap'n:
Why can't we just agree that Naruto's pretty terrible right now
Now, no one is arguing against that. If anything, we're agreeing with that while arguing other aspects of this manga.
Let's see, this Naruto is asexual plot is a dead end, so I'll just say that Naruto is awesome cause he's a main character. See, unlike Lee, Naruto has a promise of actually doing something worthwhile.
Quick! Everybody put everybody else on Ignore!
Who are you people?
Gai is both Lee's father and mother.
Gai is both Lee's father and mother.
I agree, Gai has the power to do this with his vagina no jutsu. He also divided by zero.
Controversal opinion: I want Gai and Kakashi to die in an awesome way, cause I think they're holding back the characters of Lee, Naruto, and Sakura. I'm sure someone will get a laugh outta that.
And for the final stroke of getting back on topic I will forcefully erase your memories and cares of all that went before.
I'm scared to click that link cuz I know it isn't porn.
And for the final stroke of getting back on topic I will forcefully erase your memories and cares of all that went before.
Heh, already saw it. Looked up info on him after the end of Venture Bros. season 2. He died of AIDS D:
Also, Naruto owes me money
I once read a theory somewhere that Gai is actually Lee from the future.
What I told you about reading Aethos? Don't. Reading is for suckers. And don't think about going to no school either.
I once read a theory somewhere that Gai is actually Lee from the future.
But I have to read Gaara it is essential.
I think I preferred the arguing.
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As you can see in one of the pages, Sasuke's almost out of chakra.
IMO this is the best fight of part 2.
Hate him or love him, Sasuke's fighting is awesome. From the pictures, it doesn't look like Sasuke escaped through some cheap genjutsu trick. He actually seems beat up. Love the punch to Deidara's face (Reminds me of the punches Oda draws in One Piece). Now I just want to see Naruto's fight. We need some main character 'awesome-ness.'
Now I just want to see Naruto's fight. We need some main character 'awesome-ness.'
Agree, we need to see his new techniques.