Yeah, seeing as how so many people in One Piece have different fighting styles, we can't really rely on fights against other people to compare people who have never fought.
Shanks uses a sword, does that automatically makes Mihawk stronger?
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hi im new here
i just have a question who is stronger Yonkou or shichibukai?
arent they cute?
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hi im new here
i just have a question who is stronger Yonkou or shichibukai?
Its varies, especially since we don't know all of them yet. Some say equal, others say yonkou.
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hi im new here
i just have a question who is stronger Yonkou or shichibukai?
Well ya off topic, and there a thread on this, but to answer ya question it is stated that they are equal.
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Well ya off topic, and there a thread on this, but to answer ya question it is stated that they are equal.
Don't confuse the new people. It's never stated that. It's only stated the Marines and Shichibukai are equal. It's NEVER stated the Yonkou are equal to them. What Garp says is ambiguous.
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hi im new here
i just have a question who is stronger Yonkou or shichibukai?
The manga say's they are equal but that doesn't mean each person is equal to the other, it means the group as a whole is equal.
We know whitebeard is the strongest man in the world so that proves each person in the yonkou is not equal to the other.
It will also most likely be the same with the shichibukai, lets say Mihawk is on yonkou level while crocodile and kuma are weaker. So they may need two of the weaker shichibukais to keep a yonkou at bay. While mihawk may be able to hold off a yonkou on his own.
The only thing we know for definite is the 3 world powers are equal.
EDIT. FFA if you get too technical we'll confuse him even more
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@Fire Fist:
Don't confuse the new people. It's never stated that. It's only stated the Marines and Shichibukai are equal. It's NEVER stated the Yonkou are equal to them. What Garp says is ambiguous.
You know there is a thread for this Ace.
Go post in it ya off topic.
What a sad attempt to redeem yourself.
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It can be so frustrating to rank people in One Piece! Their fighting abilities are so fickled!!! It seems so weird how the level of power is done between people and organisations! However, it does keep everything unexpected, and I don't like predictable storylines.
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its hard to believe that shichibukai and the yonkou is on the same lvl cause luffy just beat up a member of shichibukai does it mean he can match up with shanks?
lets say Mihawk is on yonkou level while crocodile and kuma are weaker.
how could u compare croc and kuma? kuma havent fight yet and i bet croc is weaker than kuma cause of hes lower bounty =)
arent they cute?
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its hard to believe that shichibukai and the yonkou is on the same lvl cause luffy just beat up a member of shichibukai does it mean he can match up with shanks?
The shichibukai are not the same in strenght same goes for the Yonkou, Admirals.
If you beat one that dont mean you can beat them all.
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Come to think of it, the only thing I remember being mentioned about the 3 Great Powers is that if they are off balance, the world will plunge into chaos. They didn't mention anywhere about who is stronger than whom.
Like the US, China and Russia are 3 great powers in our world maintaining a sort of balance, but we know that for now, the US is still the strongest in terms of military strength (though China is surely and steadily rising already). Ok this example stops here so please don't comment further on this; i don't want any racist remarks to come out here.
Anyway, Yes, for sure it has been stated that Mihawk has the greatest sword skills in the world currently. Yes, we see Shanks wielding a sword. We know all that already so there's no point in repeating them over and over.
What really the point here is right now is that we also know that Shanks and Mihawk were rivals. And you don't exactly win all the time if you're considered to be a rival; that'd be known as a pushover. It's also quite obvious that neither were afraid of the other, nor feared losing to each other.
And, Oda said that Shanks had World Class skills. No he didn't specifically mention it was in the use of the sword ONLY. The sword usage part was your own interpretation. What Oda didn't think of was that some people on this site can just assume too much on their own and as such add their own words to his.
The Mihawk fans always ask for "proof" over and over about Shanks having more than just swords. Yet, why do you not consider that it hasn't even yet been proven that Shanks do not! What's the point here? You're causing the argument to go round and round, not adding value to your own. And you add insults to boot, provoking retaliations. Let me add this: you only insult others when you admit that you lose. So don't insult if you don't want to be seen as a loser.
And Shanks fans, Mihawk is NOT a government dog. The SB do pay the government for being allowed a licensed to exist and hunt other pirates, but that's the extent of their partnership. They do NOT follow the orders of the Marines, or even the WG. They are just there to keep the balance of the 3 Great Powers, because the Marines cannot hold on their own against the Yonkou. Shanks may be a Yonkou, but in no way does that prove that he would win against Mihawk.
This is dumb, I'm getting angry over stupid petty things like pride. But I have to defend myself when people start suggesting that i need to be spoon fed, when it is they themselves who are in need of enlightenment.
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Come to think of it, the only thing I remember being mentioned about the 3 Great Powers is that if they are off balance, the world will plunge into chaos. They didn't mention anywhere about who is stronger than whom.
Mihawk mentions the marines and Shichibukai are two conflicting powers of equal power. But nowhere is it mentioned the power of the Yonkou compared to the other two. Garp's words are unclear.
Like the US, China and Russia are 3 great powers in our world maintaining a sort of balance, but we know that for now, the US is still the strongest in terms of military strength (though China is surely and steadily rising already). Ok this example stops here so please don't comment further on this; i don't want any racist remarks to come out here.
That's different. All 3 of those countries are granted security powers by the UN council. The Yonkou do not work for the WG, only the Shichibukai and the Marines do.
Anyway, Yes, for sure it has been stated that Mihawk has the greatest sword skills in the world currently. Yes, we see Shanks wielding a sword. We know all that already so there's no point in repeating them over and over.
What really the point here is right now is that we also know that Shanks and Mihawk were rivals. And you don't exactly win all the time if you're considered to be a rival; that'd be known as a pushover. It's also quite obvious that neither were afraid of the other, nor feared losing to each other.
And, Oda said that Shanks had World Class skills. No he didn't specifically mention it was in the use of the sword ONLY. The sword usage part was your own interpretation. What Oda didn't think of was that some people on this site can just assume too much on their own and as such add their own words to his.
See, Oda hasn't fully fleshed out Shanks yet. Nor Mihawk. But the point is, you can't judge a person's entire skill base on one move. When you first saw Zoro fight, did you expect stuff like "Breath of all things" or any projectile moves like the pound cannons? Zoro developed new moves and the strike against Whitebeard wasn't even a named move. It was just a sword strike to get his attention.
And Shanks fans, Mihawk is NOT a government dog. The SB do pay the government for being allowed a licensed to exist and hunt other pirates, but that's the extent of their partnership. They do NOT follow the orders of the Marines, or even the WG. They are just there to keep the balance of the 3 Great Powers, because the Marines cannot hold on their own against the Yonkou. Shanks may be a Yonkou, but in no way does that prove that he would win against Mihawk.
See, I hate to be a nitpicker, but you're wrong here. Smoker and Tashigi make it very obviously clear they're allies of the marines and the WG. In addition, Smoker indicates that the Shichibukai DO take orders from the WG to an extent. Despite their distaste for each other, the WG and the Marines are paid to work together.
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Was it ever stated that Shanks lost a fight with Mihawk?
Ever?
So far as I know, they were on two different ships that went to battle with each other quite a few times, and so far as I know, Mihawk never successfully so much as even gave Shanks a 'serious injury' (since the only person to do so was Teach). Even if Mihawk does have the title of strongest swordsman in the world, it doesn't mean that he's stronger than Shanks as a fighter or that he could defeat Shanks, or even compete with present day Shanks.
We can be relatively positive that Shanks does not just rely on his swordsmanship, considering the fact that the means through which he immobilized the vast majority of Whitebeard's crew had nothing to do with his blade.
Considering the fact that Shanks is so strong that he was able to walk right up to the strongest man in the world and strike a blow at him without dying, and considering the fact that we haven't seen Mihawk do something similar, and the fact that Shanks is an emperor whereas Mihawk is merely a member of the Shibuchai, I'd say that all the evidence we currently have points to Shanks being a stronger fighter than Mihawk.
Saying that Mihawk could do anything close to what Shanks did on Whitebeard's ship would be pure baseless speculation.
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FFA: yeah well actually i was kinda trying to defend you but nvm ;p
theinvisibleworm: You're right! I agree that splitting the sky seems much more impressive than splitting a few ships apart. Still, there's no saying that Mihawk would lose to Shanks either way; it's still speculation. But you're right.. Shanks does seem to have done more impressive things in what the manga has shown up to now..
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Since the world powers were made to hold each other in check you cant say that they are equal.. Its obvious that something holds back the WG from attacking the Yonkou, and the Yonkou on the WG and so on..
I trufully believe that the Yonkou=Admirals and Shicibukai.. Even though it may be that Mihawk or one of the other admirals are strong enough to take out a Yonkou single handedly, the Yonkou as a group would be able to take that group on..
And with the whole Mihawk thing.. Whether MIhawk is stronger than shanks or not, doesnt mean that one will just crush the other.. If they were to seriously fight, this being any of the more powerful people, I think that they would just fight and fight until their both so tired, and so badly injured that they seriously cant fight any longer.. Call it a big tie if you would..
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FFA: yeah well actually i was kinda trying to defend you but nvm ;p
theinvisibleworm: You're right! I agree that splitting the sky seems much more impressive than splitting a few ships apart. Still, there's no saying that Mihawk would lose to Shanks either way; it's still speculation. But you're right.. Shanks does seem to have done more impressive things in what the manga has shown up to now..
I think a problem with Mihawk is that, his last appearance was in Baratie. It seems that some people need more recent proof for these kinds of things. However, why is Shanks approaching Mihawk a proof a superiority? Whitebeard said that he has dueled Mihawk, so odds are Mihawk has done the same thing as Shanks.
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Considering the fact that Shanks is so strong that he was able to walk right up to the strongest man in the world and strike a blow at him without dying, and considering the fact that we haven't seen Mihawk do something similar, and the fact that Shanks is an emperor whereas Mihawk is merely a member of the Shibuchai, I'd say that all the evidence we currently have points to Shanks being a stronger fighter than Mihawk.
You know, we don't know that he didn't "die" until we see that clash resolved. For all we know, that duel may have a clear winner in the future.
Also, why is Mihawk as a shichibukai proof of Mihawk being weaker? Are we pulling rank again, cause there's a theory that Mihawk took the role for the silence and pirate beating that only a shichibukai can enjoy. I mean, since he visited Shanks it seems that he able to survive in the New World (assuming that everytime we see Shanks he is in fact there) just as easily as in East Blue.
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Whitebeard said that he has dueled Shanks, so odds are Mihawk has done the same thing.
If whitebeard has fought with shanks, and shanks is still alive wouldnt that put him on Whitebeards level.. Now if shanks is on that level why would he be under Mihawk..
I am a big Mihawk fan, but I reallly dont think that he is stronger, but I do think that he is on the level of shanks and such..
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If whitebeard has fought with shanks, and shanks is still alive wouldnt that put him on Whitebeards level.. Now if shanks is on that level why would he be under Mihawk..
I am a big Mihawk fan, but I reallly dont think that he is stronger, but I do think that he is on the level of shanks and such..
Shoot! That's a …slip-up....
Whitebeard said that he dueled Mihawk, hence why he is still on Shank's level. He said it right before he fought Shanks. Which means that Mihawk is on Whitebeard's level too.
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You know, this thread will never go to anywhere. There is Shanks fans and Mihawk fans. And both sides have good points and facts.
I personally believe that Shanks is stronger than Mihawk. Why?
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Anyways we just saw shanks duel with whitebeard, and we know that he as fought with mihawk.. I think that they are just so close in ability that you really cant say that one is above the other.. I mean of course WB is the strongest, but it doesnt mean that he could jstu blow them away in a fight..
When it comes to that its just equal
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I think a problem with Mihawk is that, his last appearance was in Baratie. It seems that some people need more recent proof for these kinds of things. However, why is Shanks approaching Mihawk a proof a superiority? Whitebeard said that he has dueled Mihawk, so odds are Mihawk has done the same thing as Shanks.
.When did Whitebeard said he dueled Mihawk? I think I missed it.
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When did Whitebeard said he dueled Mihawk? I think I missed it.
He haven't never said that.
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its hard to believe that shichibukai and the yonkou is on the same lvl cause luffy just beat up a member of shichibukai does it mean he can match up with shanks? how could u compare croc and kuma? kuma havent fight yet and i bet croc is weaker than kuma cause of hes lower bounty =)
Oh your one of those guys who think each person in each world powers strength is identical. So you use the logic of luffy beat croc so he can beat any shichibukai.
Well that theory has been crushed since the yonkou have someone called the worlds strongest man and the marines have someone called the strongest marine. This proves the individual members of the powers are not equal in strength but the powers as a whole are equal.
I used croc and kuma as an example I didn't say that would happen I randomly picked 2 members of the shichibukai.
You need to re-read this thread it explains everything I have just said and more.
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I personally believe that Shanks is stronger than Mihawk. Why?
it must be Shanks charisma, his spirit, fact that he is Yonkou, etc. Many people here might disagree with me, but I'm fine with that.NO, Oda states it himself that Shanks was a rival to Hawkeye's…...The only conclusion is that Shanks and Hawkeye's are EQUAL!!!!!!!!!! You gus do realize that ODA Eiichiro the AUTHOR, CREATOR of ONE PIECE!!!!!! said this? Anyone who says otherwise is just wrong.
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Anyone who says otherwise is just wrong.
Roger and Whitebeard were rivals and in the end Roger was the one who became Pirate King.
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Roger and Whitebeard were rivals and in the end Roger was the one who became Pirate King.
Exactly, Shanks and Hawkeye's are rivals and Hawkeye's is the World's Greatest. Hawkeye's as the World's best had a rival just like Roger did. Your just helping me out.
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We don't know if Shanks and Mihawk fought for "The World Strongest Swordsman" title.
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We don't know if Shanks and Mihawk fought for "The World Strongest Swordsman" title.
That is NOT the point, The fact that Hawkeye's has a rival as the world's greatest swordsman is the same as Roger's (The Strongest man) having a rival in whitebeard as well.
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@AD-HD:
We don't know if Shanks and Mihawk fought for "The World Strongest Swordsman" title.
No Oda just decided he'd give the title strongest swordsman in the world to a fraud. Same with whitebeard he isn't really the strongest man in the world, Oda just thought he'd give it to him because of his cool looking mustache.
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ou know, this thread will never go to anywhere. There is Shanks fans and Mihawk fans. And both sides have good points and facts.
What facts do you have???????
Im not a Mihawk fan, I just call it like I see it.
I personally believe that Shanks is stronger than Mihawk. Why?
it must be Shanks charisma, his spirit, fact that he is Yonkou, etc. Many people here might disagree with me, but I'm fine with that.Your just a Shanks fan and a Yonkou fan, thats why you think Shanks is stronger.
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No Oda just decided he'd give the title strongest swordsman in the world to a fraud. Same with whitebeard he isn't really the strongest man in the world, Oda just thought he'd give it to him because of his cool looking mustache.
Whitebeard only has the title because Roger died. It was given to him post-mortem. Coincidentally, we could say the same about Shanks surrendering his title to Mihawk upon losing his arm.
A title is crap if the only person who can take it from the person has no desire to challenge that person. I'm sure there's someone stronger than Whitebeard but his reputation alone ensures that person wouldn't challenge him and try to take it.
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What facts do you have???????
Im not a Mihawk fan, I just call it like I see it.
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I personally believe that Shanks is stronger than Mihawk. Why?
it must be Shanks charisma, his spirit, fact that he is Yonkou, etc. Many people here might disagree with me, but I'm fine with that.
Your just a Shanks fan and a Yonkou fan, thats why you think Shanks is stronger.I might aswell say that you are Shichibukai fan. You can't accept that Yonkous are many ways stronger than Shichibukais. Otherwise, Garp wouldn't say that they are "four strongest pirate alive."..
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Whitebeard only has the title because Roger died. It was given to him post-mortem. Coincidentally, we could say the same about Shanks surrendering his title to Mihawk upon losing his arm.
How do you know you reading ahead of us!
or are you Oda!
A title is crap if the only person who can take it from the person has no desire to challenge that person. I'm sure there's someone stronger than Whitebeard but his reputation alone ensures that person wouldn't challenge him and try to take it.
Its funny how you say a title is crap but say Shanks is stronger then Hawkeye b/c he has the title of Yonkou.
Shanks is not stronger then Whitebeard…........We can tell the by the gap in power between them 2.
FFA read my sig!
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How do you know you reading ahead of us!
or are you Oda!
Whitebeard's not pirate king, is he? Roger was. Therefore, Roger was stronger. Thus, the title given to Whitebeard was only given post-mortem.
Its funny how you say a title is crap but say Shanks is stronger then Hawkeye b/c he has the title of Yonkou.
Shanks is not stronger then Whitebeard…........We can tell the by the gap in power between them 2.
FFA read my sig!
Never said he was stronger than Whitebeard, but I don't know what gap you're talking about, except the one that's your speculation.
And I'm not a Whitebeard hater. You're a Shanks hater, though.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
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@Fire Fist:
Whitebeard's not pirate king, is he? Roger was. Therefore, Roger was stronger. Thus, the title given to Whitebeard was only given post-mortem.
Roger was considered Whitebeard's rival.
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Roger was considered Whitebeard's rival.
Yes, I'm aware. But consider that Whitebeard, even now, is not called Pirate King, and Roger is/was. Therefore, Roger succeeded where Whitebeard failed. Even being Rivals, Roger had the edge until his death.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
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@Fire:
Whitebeard only has the title because Roger died. It was given to him post-mortem. Coincidentally, we could say the same about Shanks surrendering his title to Mihawk upon losing his arm.
You are wrong, Whitebeard has the Title because …......
Buggy: he is…
A legendary "MONSTER" who was once the only man who could ever MATCH the Pirate King Roger!!!
HE IS WITHOUT A DOUBT, THE MOST POWERFUL PIRATE IN THE WORLD!!!!Also Shanks was a RIVAL to Hawkeye's with BOTH of his arms!!!!! So your Shanks giving Hawkeye's the title after a loss of an arm is just Bloody wrong.
Thou he slay me, yet shall I trust him!!!!
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FFA It says in the manga Whitebeard is the only man to ever tie with roger so I take that as they were equal. Roger became pirate king because he got to raftel so when he got killed whitebeard remained as the strongest.
A title is crap if the only person who can take it from the person has no desire to challenge that person. I'm sure there's someone stronger than Whitebeard but his reputation alone ensures that person wouldn't challenge him and try to take it.
The problem with this is it's speculation I'd love to think their is a guy out there who is more powerful than everyone. But facts from the manga have given no hints towards this unless you believe blackbeard is that hint.
So in real life your correct their's always someone better than you but in One piece we have to go by what the author tells us.
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You are wrong, Whitebeard has the Title because …......
Then why is Whitebeard not Pirate King, huh?
Also Shanks was a RIVAL to Hawkeye's with BOTH of his arms!!!!! So your Shanks giving Hawkeye's the title after a loss of an arm is just Bloody wrong.
Not at all. Shanks gets a handicap, the title goes to Mihawk. What's wrong about that?
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@Fire Fist:
Yes, I'm aware. But consider that Whitebeard, even now, is not called Pirate King, and Roger is/was. Therefore, Roger succeeded where Whitebeard failed. Even being Rivals, Roger had the edge until his death.
**So you are saying that Roger was stronger? Everything points against your claim. Remember, strengh is not the deciding factor in getting to Raftel.
Also, if there was any differance between their strengh, it would be extremley nominial. To the point that Whitebeard would have gotten there by now. The reason Roger got to Raftel and WB didn't was most liley spething to do with him being a D, or perhaps he (or one in his crew) could read the pnyglyphs****. Or maybe lady luck was on his side.**
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FFA It says in the manga Whitebeard is the only man to ever tie with roger so I take that as they were equal
Thing is, we don't know that how many times they tied.
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**So you are saying that Roger was stronger? Everything points against your claim. Remember, strengh is not the deciding factor in getting to Raftel.
Also, if there was any differance between their strengh, it would be extremley nominial. To the point that Whitebeard would have gotten there by now. The reason Roger got to Raftel and WB didn't was most liley spething to do with him being a D, or perhaps he (or one in his crew) could read the pnyglyphs****. Or maybe lady luck was on his side.**
Strength may not be the deciding factor, but look at Whitebeard's body. There's a huge slash across it and he's hooked up to medical equipment. The only person who legitimately could have caused damage to him like that is Roger. Just because they tied doesn't mean that they tied everytime. Constant stalemates are pointless.
Nothing points against my claim against Roger being stronger. Strength is not always about physical prowess, like people think.
Let's look at the definition of strength:
1. the quality or state of being strong; bodily or muscular power; vigor.
2. mental power, force, or vigor.
3. moral power, firmness, or courage.
4. power by reason of influence, authority, resources, numbers, etc.
5. number, as of personnel or ships in a force or body: a regiment with a strength of 3000.
6. effective force, potency, or cogency, as of inducements or arguments: the strength of his plea.
7. power of resisting force, strain, wear, etc.
8. vigor of action, language, feeling, etc.
9. the effective or essential properties characteristic of a beverage, chemical, or the like: The alcoholic strength of brandy far exceeds that of wine.
10. a particular proportion or concentration of these properties; intensity, as of light, color, sound, flavor, or odor: coffee of normal strength.
11. something or someone that gives one strength or is a source of power or encouragement; sustenance: The Bible was her strength and joy.
12. power to rise or remain firm in prices: Stocks continued to show strength. The pound declined in strength.
—Idiom13. on the strength of, on the basis of; relying on: He was accepted by the college on the strength of ardent personal recommendations.That's quite a broad definition, right? So what Whitebeard has in physical strength he may lack in mental strength. He has the crew, he has the muscle, but he lacks the mind.
Roger was stronger, and that's a fact. That's why he became Pirate King.
I called it wrong, so long ago. I guess this needs to be changed.
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Whitebeard's not pirate king, is he? Roger was. Therefore, Roger was stronger. Thus, the title given to Whitebeard was only given post-mortem.
Yes Whitebeard is not Pirate King b/c he cant find One piece!
Not b/c Roger beat the living hell out of him, now Whitebeard has the world strongest man title, and you say Roger is stronger then him b/c he found One Piece first.Never said he was stronger than Whitebeard, but I don't know what gap you're talking about, except the one that's your speculation.
No the gap in power is a fact, Shanks haveing his Ki in full effect is a sign of that, and Whitebeard not being impressed is also a sign.
See what im geting at?
And I'm not a Whitebeard hater. You're a Shanks hater, though.
Shanks hater???? HUH how did I hate on Shanks?
Your debate is a weak one!
Your saying Shanks is stronger then Hawkeye b/c he is a Yonkou, but didnt you just say titles are crap?????
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Yes Whitebeard is not Pirate King b/c he cant find One piece!
Not b/c Roger beat the living hell out of him, now Whitebeard has the world strongest man title, and you say Roger is stronger then him b/c he found One Piece first.I never said Roger beat the living hell out of him, but look at his condition right now. Did Roger look diseased and injured during his execution? Not at all.
Besides, as I showed you the definition of strength, I think you'd realize that it's not all about who can throw the best punch or weild the best sword. It's about your brains and your ability to interact with others.
No the gap in power is a fact, Shanks haveing his Ki in full effect is a sign of that, and Whitebeard not being impressed is also a sign.
Ah, no. Shanks clearly stated he used a bit of intimidation, and Whitebeard didn't even comment on it, only Marco and Joz did.
Shanks hater???? HUH how did I hate on Shanks?
Your debate is a weak one!
Your saying Shanks is stronger then Hawkeye b/c he is a Yonkou, but didnt you just say titles are crap?????
Shanks is one of the strongest four pirates in the world, regardless if he's a Yonkou or not. This was clearly said by Garp. Mihawk is part of a group of seven that made a deal with the World Government. It's never stated that one of the strongest in the world, other than in Swordsmanship. If the Yonkou are stated to be the world's strongest pirates, then they're just that.
Besides, like I said, strength isn't about just physical ability. A lot more comes into play.
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Your saying Shanks is stronger then Hawkeye b/c he is a Yonkou, but didnt you just say titles are crap?????
Yonkou is not a title. Shichibukai is not a title.
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I never said Roger beat the living hell out of him, but look at his condition right now. Did Roger look diseased and injured during his execution, not at all?
That could have come froma sickness….....you dont know!
stop talking as if your theory is fact.Besides, as I showed you the definition of strength, I think you'd realize that
Yea good way of changing your argument…...But I was talking about 1 on 1 fight, not who succeed who in what.
Ah, no. Shanks clearly stated he used a bit of intimidation, and Whitebeard didn't even comment on it, only Marco and Joz did.
No your wrong Whitebeard said "is that what someone says with there Ki or spirit in full effect", and then he diss his ass.
Shanks is one of the strongest four pirates in the world, regardless if he's a Yonkou or not. This was clearly said by Garp. Mihawk is part of a group of seven that made a deal with the World Government. It's never stated that one of the strongest in the world, other than in Swordsmanship. If the Yonkou are stated to be the world's strongest pirates, then they're just that.
It is not stated that the Yonkou are the worlds strongest pirates, stop making S**t up, it only says that they are on Whitebeards level, the 4 great pirates.
@AD HD haveing the title of god of the sea is a tile.
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It is not stated that the Yonkou are the worlds strongest pirates, stop making S**t up, it only says that they are on Whitebeards level, the 4 great pirates.
Yes it is.
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Then why is Whitebeard not Pirate King, huh?
Cause he did NOT find One Piece yet!!!! The fact still remains that he was able to RIVAL Gold Roger and that is why he has his title.
Not at all. Shanks gets a handicap, the title goes to Mihawk. What's wrong about that?
What?:wassat: Shanks was a RIVAL to the World's Greatest with BOTH arms why would Hawkeye's get the title when he already had it?
Ah, no. Shanks clearly stated he used a bit of intimidation, and Whitebeard didn't even comment on it, only Marco and Joz did.
Wrong…..
Whitebeard: And THOSE are the words of a man who boards my ship with his "ambition" in full effect?
You damned bastard…
Gurararara...!!!Shanks is one of the strongest four pirates in the world, regardless if he's a Yonkou or not. This was clearly said by Garp. Mihawk is part of a group of seven that made a deal with the World Government. It's never stated that one of the strongest in the world, other than in Swordsmanship. If the Yonkou are stated to be the world's strongest pirates, then they're just that.
The Emperors are NOT stated to be the World's Strongest Pirates, Only Whitebeard has that title. Also the Shichibukai are a power that are equal with your precious Emperors, so I don't know where you are getting this stronger than the Shichibukai crap from.
Thou he slay me, yet shall I trust him!!!!
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@Fire Fist:
Strength may not be the deciding factor, but look at Whitebeard's body. There's a huge slash across it and he's hooked up to medical equipment. The only person who legitimately could have caused damage to him like that is Roger. Just because they tied doesn't mean that they tied everytime. Constant stalemates are pointless.
It has been 22 years since Roger died. 22 years agoo, whitebeard would have been a super-speedy skinny guy. He could have have been a sumo guy. For all we know, he had boods. Imagine how Roger would look if he didn't die.
Nothing points against my claim against Roger being stronger. Strength is not always about physical prowess, like people think.
That's quite a broad definition, right? So what Whitebeard has in physical strength he may lack in mental strength. He has the crew, he has the muscle, but he lacks the mind.
Not only do I know full-well the defination of strengh, this has little-to-nothing to do with the discussion. Fact is, they were rivals. They tied enough for people to hear about it. The most liogical assumption is that they were roughly equal.
Roger was stronger, and that's a fact. That's why he became Pirate King.
**A fact has to be proven true in order for it be a fact. Your sole supporting idea for your claim is that Roger was stronger because he was able to become pirate king. but even someone a little weaker than those 2 could have become prate king.
Wat about the differance in crews? luck? D? ponyglyphs? knowledge? and countless other possible reasons.**
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That could have come froma sickness….....you dont know!
stop talking as if your theory is fact.Yea good way of changing your argument......But I was talking about 1 on 1 fight, not who succeed who in what.
Yeah, because sickness makes you have bigass scars on your body…
It's not fact till it's proven, but it's pretty obvious Roger was stronger, even in physical strength.
No your wrong Whitebeard said "is that what someone says with there Ki or spirit in full effect", and then he diss his ass.
In your fanboy imagination. Nowhere does Whitebeard diss him, all he does is question if Shanks is there for peaceful reasons.
It is not stated that the Yonkou are the worlds strongest pirates, stop making S**t up, it only says that they are on Whitebeards level, the 4 great pirates.
Uh, yeah, so if Whitebeard is the world's strongest pirate, they are, too.
Besides, Garp says they rule above all others almost like emperors. That means they're above ANY other pirates, INCLUDING Mihawk.
