Every fruit makes you the strongest… Even Robin said Enel is invincible thanks to his fruit.
That's a no go. He is not invincible.
Every fruit makes you the strongest… Even Robin said Enel is invincible thanks to his fruit.
That's a no go. He is not invincible.
i know but Robin said so.
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He still lost to Luffy and Luffy said that their are plenty of guys out there capable of beating him.
He never said that
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@DARK_RITUAL:
That would be like someone having a "Strong-Strong fruit", making him the strongest man in the world.
Who knows, strong strong fruit may also exist, I mean we have a human-human fruit and a Mark-mark fruit so anything is possible with the paramecia class.
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He never said that strong fruit would make you the strongest, he is arguing that it would increase your physical strength to a certain point.
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even if you have a strong strong fruit all it will do is make you strong physically and we know already being strong physically won't make you the strongest in one piece
you forgetting something?
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He still lost to Luffy and Luffy said that their are plenty of guys out there capable of beating him.
without Luffy he is lol.. Check the post I gave you above its working now, Robin said it not me.
i know but Robin said so.
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I remember another translation that said "One of the fruits considered invincible" or something.
@DARK_RITUAL:
you forgetting something?
But do you think it can make you the strongest physically?
you forgetting something?
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without Luffy he is lol.. Check the post I gave you above its working now, Robin said it not me.
Like Jackermeister said; it's "considered invincible", even with that consideration there is no indication that he would be because there plenty of guys out there who can beat him. Nothing is unbeatable in one piece.
I remember another translation that said "One of the fruits considered invincible" or something.
But do you think it can make you the strongest physically?
Do you think the Human fruit makes you more Humane?
Do you think the Human fruit makes you more Humane?
According to Oda it makes you "enlightened". Now answer the question: Do you think that a fruit that makes you the strongest physically can exist?
Let me put it in kind of logic you guys use - logia is invincible because Robin sayd so, but now, because its proven that logia isn
t invincible, it`s a plothole.
Seriously, dont take everything what characters say as truth. Since when were you under assumption that rumors, lies and assumptions don
t exist in manga? Robin is just saying what she is supposed to know, not that he`s some kind of prophet to know everything.
According to Oda it makes you "enlightened". Now answer the question: Do you think that a fruit that makes you the strongest physically can exist?
If a human fruit makes one "enlightened" considering that they are people without the fruit thats above that(ex: Vegapunk), then if a Strong fruit exist it should make the user "Stronger physically" instantly no need for training the body.
Let me put it in kind of logic DARK_RITUAL uses - logia is invincible because Robin sayd so, but now, because it
s proven that logia isn
t invincible, it`s a plothole.
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@DARK_RITUAL:
If a human fruit makes one "enlightened" considering that they are people without the fruit thats above that(ex: Vegapunk), then if a Strong fruit exist it should make the user "Stronger physically" instantly no need for training the body.
Okay so it would be useless? Since people can get stronger without the fruit.
Let me put it in kind of logic you guys use - logia is invincible because Robin sayd so, but now, because it
s proven that logia isn
t invincible, it`s a plothole.Seriously, don
t take everything what characters say as truth. Since when were you under assumption that rumors, lies and assumptions don
t exist in manga? Robin is just saying what she is supposed to know, not that he`s some kind of prophet to know everything.
Exactly, like Foxy claims because BB says his fruit is the most powerful that it basically means its the most powerful in one piece.
There is always a need for training with or without a fruit.
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Okay so it would be useless? Since people can get stronger than the fruit user.
Yep like a human fruit will be useless if a human ate it. And quit quoting things I didn't say.
Yep like a human fruit will be useless if a human ate it. And quit quoting things I didn't say.
lol, I can't quote other people? A human fruit won't be useless if an animal eats it. A strong fruit will be useless no matter what kind of creature eats it.
lol, I can't quote other people? A human fruit won't be useless if an animal eats it. A strong fruit will be useless no matter what kind of creature eats it.
nah it won't, if you train it you will discover more of what it can do, just like Brook fruit is useless nor matter what eats it, all you do is wait till you die to be able to use it. And I meant don't be putting my name "DARK_RITUAL" in things I didn't say and claiming I did.
nah it won't, if you train it you will discover more of what it can do, just like Brook fruit is useless nor matter what eats it, all you do is wait till you die to be able to use it. And I meant don't be putting my name "DARK_RITUAL" in things I didn't say and claiming I did.
Coming back to life is useless? And we're talking about a fruit that only "makes you stronger physically" and that's it. Of course it becomes useful if you suddenly make up extra functions for it.
You were claiming that Enel's fruit is invincible because Robin said so.
Coming back to life is useless? And we're talking about a fruit that only "makes you stronger physically" and that's it. Of course it becomes useful if you suddenly make up extra functions for it.
You were claiming that Enel's fruit is invincible because Robin said so.
No devil fruit is useless, you never know how a DF will workout against another DF and a DF's potential depends on how far and willingly the user is ready to take it.. Someone like Coby who's weak, if he ate a Strong fruit(assuming it exists) then weak Coby would've become physically as strong as Luffy back then and note Luffy has been training since he was a kid. Now Coby getting that instantly strong and he later learns rokushiki and haki wouldn't that make him one tough opponent?(and all this are examples/assuming before you start quoting me again:getlost:). And again I never claimed anything, I was giving an example "like how Robin said Enel fruit was invisible". Do you have a hard time understanding what people are saying? Or what?
No devil fruit is useless, you never know how a DF will workout against another DF and a DF's potential depends on how far and willingly the user is ready to take it.. Someone like Coby who's weak, if he ate a Strong fruit(assuming it exists) then weak Coby would've become physically as strong as Luffy back then and note Luffy has been training since he was a kid. Now Coby getting that instantly strong and he later learns rokushiki and haki wouldn't that make him one tough opponent?(and all this are examples/assuming before you start quoting me again:getlost:).
It's useless if Luffy's stronger than him. The fruit would only let you skip some training.
Devil fruits are imbalanced, ineed its possible for Coby to get an overpowered fruit. However in OP world with so many different DF users and powers it obviliously takes more than just a strength to win a fight. Coby could become into an strong enemy, however Luffy have fought so far with so dangerous opponents and survived that it
s very unlikely that his powerup can be an serious threat. Unless his new ability is someting hax.
Devil fruits are imbalanced, ineed it
s possible for Coby to get an overpowered fruit. However in OP world with so many different DF users and powers it obviliously takes more than just a strength to win a fight. Coby could become into an strong enemy, however Luffy have fought so far with so dangerous opponents and survived that it
s very unlikely that his powerup can be an serious threat. Unless his new ability is someting hax.
The ability he displayed in EoL kinda looked like a Busoshoku shockwave, much like Ashigara Dokkoi, but way stronger.
The ability he displayed in EoL kinda looked like a Busoshoku shockwave, much like Ashigara Dokkoi, but way stronger.
Sentomaru wasn't taking the fight seriously since he was tossing him around like a rag doll. "Best Defense in the World" Sentomaru wouldn't waste his time on a weakling like Luffy.
@Formation:
Sentomaru wasn't taking the fight seriously since he was tossing him around like a rag doll. "Best Defense in the World" Sentomaru wouldn't waste his time on a weakling like Luffy.
I like how you think Sentoumaru has the world's best defence based on asingle boast he made about himself, but you don't think MIhawk is the world's strongest swordsman despite the whole world recognizing him as such
@Formation:
Sentomaru wasn't taking the fight seriously since he was tossing him around like a rag doll. "Best Defense in the World" Sentomaru wouldn't waste his time on a weakling like Luffy.
I seem to recall that weakling having the WG piss themselves because of his potential. Of course Luffy would be weak against something he had no knowledge about at that time. But thats no longer the case.
@Formation:
Sentomaru wasn't taking the fight seriously since he was tossing him around like a rag doll. "Best Defense in the World" Sentomaru wouldn't waste his time on a weakling like Luffy.
"Man with the Tightest Mouth in the World" Sentomaru wouldn't accidentally reveal information. Oh wait…
Sentomaru and Blackbeard have something in common- they always claim something about themselves to be the best of the best in the world but some of it turns out to be a bluff.
Sentomaru and Blackbeard have something in common- they always claim something about themselves to be the best of the best in the world but some of it turns out to be a bluff.
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Sentomaru and Blackbeard have something in common- they always claim something about themselves to be the best of the best in the world but some of it turns out to be a bluff.
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wow you love me that much that all you do is wait for me to post something so you can post one of your stupid gifs? good to know.
wow you love me that much that all you do is wait for me to post something so you can post one of your stupid gifs? good to know.
At least it's not Foxy and his "funny" memes.
At least it's not Foxy and his "funny" memes.
I won't be surprised if both are the same person or they know each other, cuz they both have been agreeing and commenting on the samething for awhile now and they get on n off right at the same time, they like couples on here. Well lets hope it's just me thinking way too much into it.
Lol, you guys argue about such odd things some times. And you're all giving Dark Ritual such a hard time. Geeze, I feel like the jokes will never END.
But, on a serious note I agree with him about the Blackbeard thing and about the strong/speed fruit. Just because they'd be redundant from a story-telling point of view doesn't make them useless in the world itself. It's not like whatever made devil fruits is going to think "Oh, hey, there's plenty of strong people in the world just from training. might as well not bother with this one." Which means it could exist, as it fits the theme of a paramecia. Although, I'd say strong would be more so a muscle fruit, an speed likely a friction/movement or something one.
As for the Enel thing… I can't see how that's being taken as a serious argument. It's pretty obvious Robin meant logias in that statement. If not even just logias, perhaps the non-material ones. As for why she didn't just say "logia" it's not that surprising really, if you think about it from a writer's viewpoint. Her yelling out "It's one of the invincible fruits!" has a lot more impact than, "It's a logia!" Especially at that point in the story.
And you're all giving Dark Ritual such a hard time. Geeze, I feel like the jokes will never END.
lol
@Keo2309:
As for the Enel thing… I can't see how that's being taken as a serious argument. It's pretty obvious Robin meant logias in that statement. If not even just logias, perhaps the non-material ones. As for why she didn't just say "logia" it's not that surprising really, if you think about it from a writer's viewpoint. Her yelling out "It's one of the invincible fruits!" has a lot more impact than, "It's a logia!" Especially at that point in the story.
I don't think she meant logias. If she did, she would've said so. There's probably powers like that among all three types. WB's fruit could be one them. If you think about it, Enel's fruit is definitely one of the stronger logias.
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I don't think she meant logias. If she did, she would've said so. There's probably powers like that among all three types. WB's fruit could be one them. If you think about it, Enel's fruit is definitely one of the stronger logias.
I can agree with that a bit. Probably just my own bias in play here that I don't like certain powers being considered "invincible" or "world-destroying". I've always liked to imagine that weaker users would be nowhere near as skilled with the fruits as WB and Enel were. Like I've always pictured Vivi with the Gura just making a room vibrate or something. Likely from too much OP roleplaying, lol.
I can agree with that a bit. Probably just my own bias in play here that I don't like certain powers being considered "invincible" or "world-destroying". I've always liked to imagine that weaker users would be nowhere near as skilled with the fruits as WB and Enel were. Like I've always pictured Vivi with the Gura just making a room vibrate or something. Likely from too much OP roleplaying, lol.
I tend to believe DF's powers get feared for how they are used because of the user.
If any of you still doubt it, the Dark-Dark Fruit IS the most powerful Devil Fruit.
I'm not trying to destroy you're fanboy fantasies but Oda clearly stated through Blackbeard how powerful the Dark-Dark Fruit is.
And it wasn't even Blackbeard bragging. He said "They call it the most dangerous Devil Fruit…" Meaning that scientists and Devil Fruit experts agree on it's strength.
@Foxy:
If any of you still doubt it, the Dark-Dark Fruit IS the most powerful Devil Fruit.
I'm not trying to destroy you're fanboy fantasies but Oda clearly stated through Blackbeard how powerful the Dark-Dark Fruit is.
And it wasn't even Blackbeard bragging. He said "They call it the most dangerous Devil Fruit…" Meaning that scientists and Devil Fruit experts agree on it's strength.
1.) Stop using the term fanboy
2.) Stop insulting people, it makes you seem desperate
3.) Learn the difference between your and you´re, you should know it if you live in "Bossville"
1.) Stop using the term fanboy
2.) Stop insulting people, it makes you seem desperate
3.) Learn the difference between your and you´re, you should know it if you live in "Bossville"
Have you ever heard of a typo?
1.) Stop using the term fanboy
2.) Stop insulting people, it makes you seem desperate
3.) Learn the difference between your and you´re, you should know it if you live in "Bossville"
4.) Stop posting memes. (Not relevant but still)
4.) Stop posting memes. (Not relevant but still)
Why do you have an obsession with me posting memes? I never post memes anyway. Wow, five fucking examples, that hardly counts as "always."
@Foxy:
Why do you have an obsession with me posting memes? I never post memes anyway. Wow, five fucking examples, that hardly counts as "always."
Even one is too many. They're not funny.
Even one is too many. They're not funny.
And why? Are you the authority on everyone's sense of humor.
@Foxy:
And why? Are you the authority on everyone's sense of humor.
Yes. Pay some respect.
@Foxy:
Have you ever heard of a typo?
I just realized that in every second post you either insult someone, ridicule someone or do both by posting some kind of pic. I think you can make your point without doing all those things, it should be possible to maintain a non-hostile environment.
I honestly don´t want to be the asshole to report posts of others, i have never done so and i would like to keep it that way to be honest.
@Foxy:
Do you want me to get F D. Dark to end you?
As the Authority of Humour: That's funny.
The Darkness fruit is indeed "Dangerous" as posted in the manga but it still can pull in damage as well. I admit BB has a ferocious pain tolerance and a second fruit on top of that. Whether it's the "most dangerous" or not, it still has it's weaknesses.
The Darkness fruit is indeed "Dangerous" as posted in the manga but it still can pull in damage as well. I admit BB has a ferocious pain tolerance and a second fruit on top of that. Whether it's the "most dangerous" or not, it still has it's weaknesses.
The argument is that if the Dark fruit is the most powerful or not? And the two reliable source(Viz and anime) made it obvious that BB never said "most powerful". Viz translated it as: "Most dangerous" while in the anime it's translated as: "Most evil", this confirms that the dark fruit isn't the strongest or most powerful DF in One piece but no he won't accept it, he will only accept mangapanda translation(Most powerful).