I see the end of this next chapter being another cliffhanger. And I always assumed Zachri was a guy, now the Apoo crush makes sense I just though it was a mancrush…
My Apoo crush on the other hand…
I see the end of this next chapter being another cliffhanger. And I always assumed Zachri was a guy, now the Apoo crush makes sense I just though it was a mancrush…
My Apoo crush on the other hand…
I wonder why didn't Oda name this crewmate of Roger's… he named Seagull and Scopper, but not this guy.
The big one in the back?
Two theories, although maybe they belong in the Dumb Predictions thread:
1. Roger was not as kindhearted as Luffy (or anyone else) currently views him, and may actually have been quite evil
2. By the end of the series, every crewmember will have some form of King or Queen title (already have Pirate King (to be), SogeKing, Soul King) (this is the dumber one)
I'll post one last thing on the matter because it's a driving issue that pops up time and time again.
Just because you think something is good, you are not automatically correct. Just because you think something is bad, you are not automatically correct.
People who call something bad think it's a truistic notion and that only they see the light while all the other, less visionary people do not. They think they're some unique little snowflake who is exempt from counter-arguments, and boy, do they freak out when those peasants who actually enjoy the thing in question raise their hands in protest. They sometimes even–very ironically, I might add--ignore the counterarguments... similar to their perceived vision of the supposed fanboys ignoring counterarguments.
I think you just described most audiophiles. As for contributing to this thread, I think I'll echo that Oda gives thought to the development of all characters, not just the main ones.
I think Le Derp was derping sarcastically.
Don't post next to hallwacker, too much hatless law for two consecutive posts.
@steven:
probably, but we're not sure of that.
does zoro count or is he not strong enough?
You're going to start up another Sanji vs. Zoro debate if you keep that up. Also, Roger wasn't held in seastone shackles when he was executed, so he has that going for him.
@steven:
16 chars of rayleigh?
16 chars of Roger (probably)
Lot's more of black turning sleeves on Vergo this chapter, I'd rather do the "CoA vs. DF ability" deal than do the "Luffy too dumb" one.
oh, that hatless Law will surely make Law fandom goes WILD.
Expect Zachri squees any second now
@Nia:
comes back from work
… HOLY SHIT you guys, that was close.
I'm not even mad that you voted for Crocodile, because it would have made this outcome slightly less amazing.
I-I feel special.
MY VOTE ACTUALLY FEELS VITAL.
For that one vote.
One vote.
Meant Bon won.
And also means that the Crocodile fans will be sat in there little corners sulking for the next few tournaments and forever crying over the loss whenever the match and the one vote difference are mentioned…
it's a tournament thing. I understand.Congratulations, Bon Kurei!
THE BLOSSOM OF FRIENDSHIP IS STRONG.
A worthy winner, I must sayespecially since he defeated Law
Even though you weren't the winning vote, your vote still mattered a lot. That's what makes me feel so special about this near tie. Also I feel special for announcing the win and all that jazz, even if it wasn't official.
@RobbyBevard:
AND BON WINS WITH ONE VOTE!
Wooot!
Ah you did that thing I asked of you, many thanks. Also: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
It's 10:27 and Bon-boy pulled ahead by one vote, does that mean he wins, I think that means he wins, tell me that means he wins Robby.
Tied with 7 minutes left, somebody vote for Bon, I'm dying over here
@RobbyBevard:
2 hours from now, give or take a couple minutes.
This is really accurate, you have good timing
I can't vote against Bon-chan.
p.s.
I hate Queen.
This isn't the place for personal arguments. This isn't the place for personal arguments. This isn't the place for personal arguments. For today only, I shall overlook your hatred of Queen and commend you for a vote well spent.
@RobbyBevard:
Be aware this match goes for two days.
That's the problem!
Man, I'm not gonna be able to do anything but watch this thread until it closes. Go Bon Clay!
crocodile? more like cockrodile.
Do you like co–I mean croc?
No?
Then vote Bon Clay!this message approved by everyone everywhere.
I'm a person somewhere, he's talking about me! :D Also yes, vote Bon
I'm impressed that it's been so close for so long. But Crocodile can't hold on forever, as he has only one hand. Vote Bon!
To counter that counter: a Robin is a type of bird, so its fine one bird attacking another
http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/252/7/d/crocodile_by_fallen_eye-d2ycms5.jpg
I'm glad we've thrown logic out the window, this is way more fun than logical debate.
@Nia:
Aah, but he didn't order her to do that just because he's a bird. He hates everyone equally, so … I can live with that. Villains will be villains.
You don't know that, maybe Baroque Works members all hate birds, that's probably it.
@Nia:
U-ugh … very good point... ACK WHY IS THIS SO HARD
Counter point: Robin under Crocodile's orders, beat up a large bird person.
Voted for Bon, because…well how could I not!?!?! You'd be crazy to vote for Crocodile
@Law:
Smoker will do the same thing like with the crocodile arc he will let them get away because he has to take the kids back.
It's likely, but it isn't the only potential outcome. Now that he has quite a few men under his control, he could potentially have his men take care of the kids, whilst continuing his pursuit of Luffy. Only time will tell
The only thing that really bothered me was that Smoker seemed too willing to help Luffy. I can't wait to see what Smoker will do after the Strawhats go crazy on Punk Hazard.
I'm sure he knows that if he doesn't work with Luffy for now, he might not make it out alive. What will happen after everything is resolved is going to be interesting.
I remember making this but I'm not entirely sure when or why. Anyway vote Law or something
!
It's not as bad as having the thought of Nigel Thornberry and Trafalgar Law combined.
[/shudders] eegads
I didn't enjoy doing this, I'll probably cry myself to sleep
@Trumtatta:
Probably Gol D Roger wasn't dead. He stays all this time under cover by the name of…Doflamingo...
Doflamingo is just so bad ass that he can observe his own execution from afar.
@Nia:
He's not even making it past the prelims, you know http://a.deviantart.net/avatars/p/e/pervydannyphantomplz.png?2
Sorry. I'm pretty surprised, too. I thought he had a lot of fans.
Yeah that. And he does! The Supernova/Worst Generation thread is essentially the "You no like Apoo? You leave, you leave now" thread.
I'm shocked and depressed that Apoo isn't making it past the first round. Looks like I'll have to start campaigning for Law now.
Bleh… again two characters that I both like are competing for the 4th place :/
Apoo likes you more though, he loves everyone the same. Vote for Apoo!
I liked it better when you only campaigned for Beckman. I want him to beat out Apoopoo.
Voted for:
Garp: He's awesome
Kuzan: Best recurring non-main character
Pagaya: Early campaigns
Beckman: Saw that he was tied with Apoo at the time and I kinda like him
Chu~: Pity vote for losing to Usopp straight up :c
Clover: I like him.
Dude, no flaming characters? Just because you don't like Apoo, doesn't mean you can go calling him names. Also vote Apoo!
I promise you these monkey's weren't this happy before Apoo got to them, vote for the man who makes animals happy, APOO!
!
This owl didn't used to have a mouth, the poor thing, spare a vote for the man who has mouths to spare, especially for owls.
!
Vote for the man who makes animals happy!
!
Vote for Apoo if you like slightly less hideous cats
!
A vote for Apoo is a vote for hideous kittens! VOTE APOO!
!
! Are you even considering not voting for Apoo?
Welgo… wonder if it was haki. Or is he a DF user.
Uh uh, stone-stone fruit. Seastone included. Logia type. And law fell to the ground from small amounts he released into the air!Or its just haki.
Pulling for a grill based fruit, REALLY pulling for zachri's velcro idea, just because it would take this really serious character and make him into a really serious character with a silly fruit.
I kinda spotted the steak and went '…okay'
Thought nothing of it.
Then I realized it was steak.
.___.
Last person on AP that I would have expected to not enjoy the steak. Embrace the steak. EMBRACE IT.
@CCC:
I sure am glad that interpreting haki/vulcanization/velcro/steak/grill-grill isn't part of translating.
script:
! One Piece Chapter 672
Title: “I Call Myself Kinemon, That I Do!!”
Cover: “Sanji and Zoro carry the tortoise and the hare while racing in their stead”
Page 2:
Editor blurb: “Who’s this guy??”
Wergo: “Did you really expect that he wouldn’t know what was going on?”
Law: “Haa…haa…”
Box: “Mysterious Man: Wergo”
Wergo: “We don’t trust Caesar, you see”
“So he very carefully installed Monet here.”
Page 3:
Wergo: “So you’re one of the “Seven Royal Shichibukai” now, huh?”
“You’ve certainly come far.”
Law: “When did you get here…!! Wergo!!!”
Wergo: “Mere moments ago…”
Wergo: “I was just in Dress Rosa, you see…”
“An S.A.D. tanker was leaving, so I rode it here.”
“That was clearly the right decision.”
Law: “Haa… haa…!!”
“What was “right” about it…!!”
“Haa”
“Did I pose any harm to you guys!!?”
Wergo: “Had you represented a real threat, you’d already be dead.”
“Law, you can’t really keep anything hidden from the big boys…”
Monet: “Ufufu”
Law: “….!!!”
“Well… then I’ve no choice but to eliminate you!!!”
Page 4:
Wergo: “Ahh… I forgot one thing.”
Law: “UUAAHHHHH!!!”
Wergo: “Mind your tongue.”
“It’s Mr. Wergo.”
Page 5:
Text box: “The other side- in front of the laboratory”
“Luffy’s side”
Marines: “What happened…!!”
“I don’t know…!!!”
“What should we do now…”
“…”
“Hmm…”
Page 6:
Marines: “Vice Admiral Smoker…!!!”
Caesar: “Shurororororo…!!!”
Marines: “Tashigi chan!!!”
Page 7:
Marines: “To think that I’d see him defeated in battle twice in one day…”
“What happened to them!? Just now…”
“The three “Strawhat Crew” members as well. “
“He got them too!!”
“Could it be… Conqueror’s Haki!?”
“You idiot! There’s no way that the difference in their power could be enough for that!!”
“Well then what the hell happened!!?”
Caesar: “Shurororo…”
Marines: “They were all beaten without landing a single hit!”
Centaur: “Gyahahaha take a good look, Marines!!!”
“Behold the power of Master, our savior god!!”
Page 8:
Caesar: “Now then, my reliable soldiers…”
“Tie up these five particularly strong ones…”
“And be sure to use seastone chains for the ability users…!!”
Caesar: “Forget the Marines for now. Come into the lab with me, all of you!!”
“It’s dangerous here…!!!”
“Something strange is falling from the sky, but no need to worry.”
“I’ll protect you all!!!”
Centaurs:
“Yes, Master!!!”
Caesar: “…So I guess the COOL Brothers failed…!!”
“Shurororo… Well nothing to be done about that…”
“”Strawhat” and Law must have been too much to handle…”
“Shurororororororororo!!”
Page 9:
Text box: “Punk Hazard’s Central Lake”
“Zoro’s side”
“cough!!”
“cough”
Brook: “P…p…poison gas! When I cut them, they just leak poison gas!!”
“Ahh!! My eyes…!! My eyes…!!!”
“Oh. I don’t have eyes.”
“What should we do, Zoro san!!”
Zoro: “I already tried that!! Learn to pay attention, skeleton!!!”
Brook: “I thought you might have just been unlucky yohohoho”
Zoro: “Hmm… the enemy is jelly. You- eat and digest them.”
Brook: “No thank you!!! And please stop the childish teasing!!”
“I’m about 70 years your senior!!”
Kinemon: “Guohhh!!!”
“AHHHH!!!”
Zoro: “Hey. What’s wrong!!!”
Page 10:
Text box: “In the lake”
Sanji: “Ugh… Cold!! Cold!!”
“Sorry about this, Nami!!”
Black sound effect bubble: “gulp”
Sanji: “Whoa!! This has got to be the toxins from the slime!!”
“Hey hey I hope that torso hasn’t been swallowed up as well”
“I’ve been using my Color of Observation from the start but…!!”
“It’s really been weakened…!! It’s to the point that I can’t distinguish the feedback of his life force from that of the fish!!”
Page 11:
Sanji: “!!!”
“You’ve gotta be kidding me!!?”
“Hold up there, you. Stop messing around!!!”
“Stop eating that! Shark!!!”
Kinemon: “OOOOOHHHH…!!”
“hack!!”
Brook: “Wahh!! He’s coughing up blood!!!”
Zoro: “Hey. What’s the matter? What’s happening!!?”
Kinemon: “Hur…”
“It doesn’t hurt!!!”
Zoro: “What the hell!!!”
Sanji: “”Joue””
“”Shoot”!!”
Page 12:
Sanji: “Alright!! Gotcha! The final piece!!!”
“Now I can finish the samurai puzzle!!!”
“!!”
“….!!”
“!!!?”
“The poison’s already reached here!!!”
“This is bad. At some point it surrounded me!!”
“Can I do it with just Nami’s strength…!?”
“I’ll just have to take responsibility for this one too…!!”
Page 13:
Brook: “Ahh… we’re in trouble.”
“The whole surface of the lake has turned the color of that poison…!! Hurry, Sanji san!!”
Sanji: “Blue Walk!!!”
“Don’t close up…!!!”
Sanji: “gasp!!!”
“!!!”
Page 14:
Kinemon: “Honestly and truly…!!”
“I never could have imagined being so happy…”
“Just to have with me this, the body I was born with!!!”
Intro Box: “Samurai of Wano Country: ‘Kinemon of the Foxfire’”
Brook: “Ooh. You’re pretty big, aren’t you Mr. Samurai… The same height as me in fact.”
Kinemon: “So I am… This is long overdue, but”
“I call myself Kinemon, that I do!!!”
“I hail from Kuri”
“In the land of Wano!!”
Page 15:
Kinemon: “Gentleman of the Eyebrow- what dost thou call thyself?”
“….!!!”
“Haa”
“I’m Sanji”
“And what’s with the “thou”?”
“You get your body back and suddenly decide to be respectful…!?”
“Don’t think I’ll just forget about all those lovely things you were saying before”
“Using the fact that you couldn’t do anything as an excuse to give me lip”
Kinemon: “Never!!!”
“Will I ever forget…!!”
“This kindness!!!!”
“I shant forget as long as I live!!! I am forever indebted!!!”
“And I beg forgiveness for doubting thine competence, even until the very moment my trunk was retrieved!!”
Page 16:
Sanji: “Get your head off the ground, you idiot!!!”
“Such a deep bow isn’t something that should be done so flippantly!!!”
“But if thou hadst not appeared, I would have remained as I was…!!”
Brook: “Sanji san, while you were down there, you see”
“We appear to have somehow been driven into a corner.”
“And so, we’ve nowhere left to run.”
Sanji: “Oii!! You guys… I thought I told you to take care of this!!?”
Zoro: “Nothing worked, so it was no use.”
Brook: “That’s right…”
Sanji: “You morons! No better than dependent children!!”
Kinemon: “What if I were to try burning it?”
Someone: “Eh?”
Kinemon: “The sword that I, who have been called “Kinemon of the Foxfire,” wield is one that can burn as it slices my foes!!”
“I will ignite it and open our means of escape!!!”
Page 17:
Brook: “Ohhh!! That’s a great idea!!!”
“Please, go ahead!!!”
Zoro: “…”
Kinemon: “Shyahh!”
Sound effect: crackle crackle
Sanji: “Eh?”
“!!?”
Page 18:
Zoro: “?”
Kinemon: “Well, the path is open. Now let us go. To Momonosuke.”
Brook: “What…!? We’re alright!! Wait, what?”
“We were all just about to be swallowed by an explosion but”
“…??”
Brook: “Kin… Kinemon san!!!”
“What was that, just now!?””
Kinemon: “Ahh… I too, was a bit surprised.”
“To think it would explode…”
“But I cut through even the flames of that blast, that I did…!!!”
Brook: “You cut… the flames…!!?”
“!!?”
Page 19:
Kinemon: “My Foxfire style cuts with the power of fire”
“and”
“As a secret technique, it is able to slice through fire itself!!”
“There is no blaze that I cannot cut!!!”
“And now, I depart for the laboratory, to rescue Momonosuke!!”
Zoro: “Wait!!”
“!?”
Zoro: “You’ve piqued my interest in the sword styles of the samurai…”
“As far as rescuing your son… I’ll come with you!!”
Brook: “Eh!? Zoro san!?”
Editor blurb: “A fire has also been lit in Zoro’s heart!!”
Yeah, trying to explain that Wergo is actually using all five of those at once would not be pretty to translate. Also I love how nobody can decide on Welgo/Wumbo/Virgo/Walrus/SteakFace/Wergo's name, I'm assuming you chose Wergo to be different from the others?
Luffy straight-up calls it "vulcanization", so I don't think it's an accident.
Either this was a mistake by Oda, or there's a reason why Vergo/Velgo can do the same thing.
I like the grill man theory. It would be an interesting fruit power.
The thing is that nothing actually "turns black". It's something Oda uses to show us when Haki is used in that way (hardening). Consider that if he hadn't drawn it on Velgo, we would have had no way of knowing that he used it barring an extremely forced statement like "You can't stand up to my Haki" or "His Haki is so strong". It's a post skip thing, as well, since Haki was being kept mysterious before the timeskip.
I'd like to think that Oda can come up with something better than that, I was blown flat on my ass the first time I saw Luffy vulcanize his fists, I hadn't even though of the possibility and was really impressed with Oda's creativity. It would be a shame if it was an accident and he isn't actually vulcanizing them.
Okay, what the hell is this?
http://mangateers.com/manga/one-piece/672/3/Big fucking deference in translation between mangapanda/reader and Mangateers, the conversation between Law and steak face is a mess.
Waiting on Mangarule, CCC SAVE US.
I think it's extremely likely that what Velgo did was use Armament Haki. Like, extremely. He just used a wooden flute to hit a Shichibukai in the head so hard he fainted. It would just mean that Luffy isn't the only person in the world who uses it that way, and that Oda drawing his limbs turning black is to show us when it's being used… both of which make perfect sense.
What? It's already confirmed that he does. What in this chapter ever indicated otherwise?
I think you're a bit too confident on that, given that other haki imdued objects (such as the Amazoness arrows) don't turn black. The black (as I've come to interpret it) is a special property of Luffy, wherein the rubber in his body is temporarily vulcanized, something that's unique to rubber. I'm sure that if this isn't explained, it'll show up in an SBS somewhere down the road.
Don't know if anyone has said this yet but is it possible that Welgo isn't using CoA but instead he has some sort of "grill" power (as evidenced by the meat on his face and crosshatch pattern on his clothes) and instead his bamboo and clothes are charring from being burnt?
Seems likely, given the vulcanization bit of CoA is more a Luffy exclusive. Oda's such a troll with these things sometimes.
I'm surprised you didn't have some sort of gif prepared of someone getting hit in the face with a steak.
Odd that they translated it as "Welgo"…
From what I gathered from the spoilers thread, it's pronounced in German. So Velgo.
Does Welgo have a steak glued to his face or am I missing something
@Superbear:
Geez, say anything aganist Jinbe joining and people start cutting into you like a slab of beef at the deli.
I'm not for Jinbe joining, I personally think he'll die before he gets the chance, but since this is a thread of theories and predictions, predicting that Jinbe will ultimately join and end up fighting San Juan isn't something that doesn't belong here.