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I wish this goodbye would have been in the actual book, but this is as official and clear-cut an ending as Carrot is gonna get. Ah well, no regrets.
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My first Dreams Come True live performance in four years was powerful, as expected, and gave me a lot of energy. What a show!
Well hey, I ended up right about two things: Kuzan is the 10th Titanic Captain, and Sulong can work without the moon. Still hope we get one more new member to match up with BB, but I can't summond any anticipation about it. Those debates sure were exciting to be part of, still happy I tried.
It's pretty amazing how far we've come, actually dubbing the same arc as it's airing in Japan. After the big periods of uncertainty, I'm so glad that the cast and crew has stuck with it.
Yeah, sorry about that, number is fixed now.
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I met Rumiko Takahashi Sensei for the first time!! She is young in so many ways. I met a legend!!
@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
@Shiebs said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 10 - Egghead):
Not trying to be a jerk but how long do we intend to wait for Carrot to come out of Caribou?
Not sure why Oda would have Carrot miss out on hearing Luffy’s true dream and give a reaction to it in the event that he did that. I guess it was just that crucial she stayed behind to help Zou after all, in case someone invades Zou again for the Road Poneglyph.
I completely agree but I just wanted to know from those who believe it how long there willing to wait to see if this theory comes true
Forever, I suppose.
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I wanted to be like Bayashi TV on YouTube, so I bought some disposable black gloves. Eating hamburgers with these is great!
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Kohei Tanaka’s 40th anniversary concert was wonderful! Thank you for all the support over the years!
Alrighty, this will be my avatar starting tomorrow for one year, as per my wager with @FolhaS. Whoever does end up joining someday, I wish them all the best.
Take a look back, if you care to:
Vol. 1
Vol. 2
Vol. 3
Vol. 4
Vol. 5
Vol. 6
Vol. 7
Vol. 8
Vol. 9
The Wano saga has finally concluded, and in the end only Jinbe and Zeus have officially joined the Straw Hats with Caribou tagging along for the time being. But there's still a slot open for a tenth commander, and an island full of potential candidates.
The rules remain the same: be civil, don't blame, don't flame and don't troll. Ready…
DON!
My wager with @FolhaS has come to an end, and I unequivocally lost. You may pick out the avatar for me you want and I'll wear that for one year. I'll also be making a new thread shortly to discuss the new island.
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Eiichiro Oda
The portion of the RED movie connected to the anime is now on YouTube. You’ll understand Luffy’s thought process.
Why Carrot? What has she done to deserve being a Straw Hat? I've thought about that for a long time. Especially during Wano, when she had little to do and Yamato came crashing in, I was trying to understand what I originally saw that made me want to stick with her despite it all.
What I've come to understand is Carrot has barely begun her story, and her failings up to now have, in fact, been very important. Failure, inadequacy, weakness. All the Straw Hats have suffered from these at some point in their lives, and it was part of what made the tragedies in their backstories so engaging.
Look at Chopper for instance: he tried so hard to cure Dr. Hiriluk but was naive enough to give him a poison mushroom thinking it was a cure. Yet Hiriluk embraced him, pushed him forward by eating that mushroom anyway so that Chopper would continue to pursue medicine.
Some of Usopp's greatest character development happened precisely because he wasn't strong enough. Zoro used his moment of weakness, losing to Mihawk, to push himself forward. Franky blamed himself and his ships for Tom being taken away and had to overcome those feelings to join. Brook survived his crew's slaughter strictly because his fruit gave him a second life. Jinbe becoming a warlord released Arlong and begged Nami for forgiveness. Nami herself begged Luffy to help her in her darkest moment, as did Robin. Even for Luffy himself, quite a few defining moments were when he failed: losing Shanks' arm, losing his crew, losing Ace.
Pedro told Carrot to move onward. But he messed up, went backward instead by chasing revenge. Obviously I didn't want Carrot to fail at the time; I wanted her to win, I wanted her to have a proper battle with Perospero. But I also wanted her to fight for the right reasons: not for revenge, but because he had to be prevented from attacking others. And when she not only failed, but was happy ro let someone else take care of it, that really annoyed me. I didn't know of she had gotten anything meaningful out of her experience.
But she was presented with yet another way to go backward, by going home to Zou and staying there permanently as it's ruler. And this time, she paused. She didn't decide anything. That is key, that's very important. She remembers Pedro's will, she knows he never chose to be a king and had a mission centuries in the making to fulfill. And for once, Carrot isn’t making a rash, hasty decision. That is crazy important for her.
I really hope that Carrot can stick the landing. I hope she will show why she wants to join, why she must join. I knew she was the one the moment Pedro died, when Luffy counted her among his crew and when she was there to welcome Jinbe back. She's the 10th.
The stowaway thing isn't something I wanted, but I did made sure to include that particular clause in my wager precisely because it was a distinct possibility.
@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
@theackwardstation said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
@Zik said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
@danie said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
@Zik said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
Yeah, never thought Hancock ever had a chance at joining. Nothing has changed. That always seemed to be a solely fan based idea.
LOL @ Carrot being the most realistic possible candidate left to join. I thought the past few chaps wrapped all of that up. Didn't know there were still holdouts angling for another stowaway situation.
Thought we were all just looking forward to the next arc and new characters
Pretty sure the hardcore "Carrot for nakama" people are moving past the stowaway idea and will now push for Carrot joining down the line after she gets a flashback saying goodbye with some of the crew or something.
Wow. Guess the the goalpost moving is endless.
I love how literally nobody said or insinuated that, but anti-Carrot people always have fictitious conversations and strawmen inside their heads. It's really an outstanding sight to witness.
Can't help but think if Oda set-up this conundrum on purpose though, after how some people are saying Yamato should feel obligated to protect Wano to help avoid the mistakes Oden made in the past, in contrast to Carrot where some are also saying that Carrot should be free to pursue her own ambitions and not feel obligated to help Zou, even though Zou was also attacked in the past.
So basically, it gives the impression that Yamato should be saddled with an obligation while Carrot gets off scot-free. lol
Excuse me, what ever happened to your idea of keeping the conversation fun and casual, not making it a contest? Because to me, this feels like the opposite, blaming one character for another not joining, blaming whoever "some people" are for wanting freedom of choice for both characters, and it's a lot harder to not debate each other like we agreed when it feels like you keep criticising.
@Zik said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
@danie said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
@Zik said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
Yeah, never thought Hancock ever had a chance at joining. Nothing has changed. That always seemed to be a solely fan based idea.
LOL @ Carrot being the most realistic possible candidate left to join. I thought the past few chaps wrapped all of that up. Didn't know there were still holdouts angling for another stowaway situation.
Thought we were all just looking forward to the next arc and new characters
Pretty sure the hardcore "Carrot for nakama" people are moving past the stowaway idea and will now push for Carrot joining down the line after she gets a flashback saying goodbye with some of the crew or something.
Wow. Guess the the goalpost moving is endless.
Ahem, just went over this.
@Shift said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
My wager with FolhaS extends just until the crew reaches the island after Wano. If they get there and Carrot still hasn't appeared, I'll accept that she's done. Until then, I'll keep my faith in her and Pedro's will.
I don't have a problem with anyone who believes any character, whether it's Yamato, Hancock, or even Carrot, has an endlessly open window for joining. This is the thread for that. And if I was going to really push it, I'd say anytime during the next island's adventure Carrot could make a big surprise entrance.
However, I've spent a long time on the subject, both with Jinbe for over 10 years and Carrot for 5. I made my peace with the fact I may be wrong, and just like I did when it seemed Yamato was all but assured, I will boldly admit it at that time. So please accept that I'm arguing in good faith here. I really believe Carrot has something left up her sleeve, and that it will be made clear very soon.
@danie said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
@Zik said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
Yeah, never thought Hancock ever had a chance at joining. Nothing has changed. That always seemed to be a solely fan based idea.
LOL @ Carrot being the most realistic possible candidate left to join. I thought the past few chaps wrapped all of that up. Didn't know there were still holdouts angling for another stowaway situation.
Thought we were all just looking forward to the next arc and new characters
Pretty sure the hardcore "Carrot for nakama" people are moving past the stowaway idea and will now push for Carrot joining down the line after she gets a flashback saying goodbye with some of the crew or something.
You know, I did directly tell you, the last time you said this, exactly when I'd let it go:
@Shift said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
@danie said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
You'll aren't giving up until we see her with the other minks huh.
Although once that happens, I guess you'll just say she'll join down the line like Tama supposedly will, right?My wager with @FolhaS extends just until the crew reaches the island after Wano. If they get there and Carrot still hasn't appeared, I'll accept that she's done. Until then, I'll keep my faith in her and Pedro's will.
Now that Yamato has gotten the proper closure he should have gotten weeks ago, we're right back at the situation from over two years ago: Carrot is the most realistic possible candidate left, but has not achieved much even in all this time. If Yamato and Momo and Kin are all honorary crewmates, Carrot definitely is, but she hasn't gotten any conclusion with the crew or her own story. No moment to shine, has not moved onward, no understanding that Pedro said she would gain.
So what's the game plan here? Is she just going to pop up on the Sunny and join just because she's there? Because that seems a distinct possibility based on the precedent Cat, Dog and she herself set by stowing away. But what I hope to see is that she makes her case to the crew why she needs to go with them. I want to see some hint of a goal she can only achieve by being on the crew of the King of the Pirates. That's what Pedro wanted but could never have, that was his true will. If Carrot can do that, if Oda can stick that landing, I believe she will justify why it was only her and no one else who needs to be Luffy's 10th person.
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I was watching Ado’s live performance when I got an alert that “Shinjidai” (New Genesis) went number one on the Apple Music world ranking. She then performed “Shinjidai,” and it was moving.
@Shin10-Bukuro I mean, Jinbe's a great helmsman no doubt, but he's always had such a broad range of talents that helming a ship was one possibility out of many for a long time.
@electricmastro That's true too, no one should be accusing anyone here of coping for believing in who they think will join. So to everyone, you don't have to agree anyone is joining, but you do need to respect the people talking here.
@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
is prob not meant to close the door on Yamato as much as some on this forum may think.
I'm going to say no more snide remarks about how people don't believe what you believe. You can vouch for who you want, but you have to be respectful too.
@SeaOfHope said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
With Brook joining:
The Straw Hat toasts only really started being a tradition with Chopper joining and Robin didn't even get hers till she got it shared with Usopp also rejoining and with Franky. So there's no real set order of when and how it happens, but I do think Jinbe will get a toast. Right now, Luffy's in a cage, so we'll see how that works out if it does actually happen.
That Brook toast is especially telling: they had a party already where he joined and they celebrated it, but they had a proper toast on the ship. Jinbe is definitely getting one before the next island, and I'm quite sure that will be Carrot's best chance to join.
@electricmastro You've argued for your candidate and against those of others as much as anyone here. You've been just as much a part of shaping that environment. Personally, I like debate as long as it's respectful of each others' point of view, as I've tried to maintain with you. But I'm also happy to live and let live; you can keep believing in Yamato, I'll do the same for Carrot, and you and I won’t debate each other about it.
Luffy is always up to celebrate something, and Jinbe was distinctly made unavailable available for the toast at the Wano party. Luffy's going to want to do something once he's let out. It's been held off too many times to just skip over now.
As for the ship, it's not one of the 9 officers, so I think there's still room for a 10th.
Well I for one have a set cutoff time: when the crew arrives at the next island, if Carrot isn't with them, I won't argue anymore. But I have reason to suspect something will happen: Jinbe needs his to have his proper toast to celebrate his joining. Luffy has been inconviniently locked in a cage and can't do it yet. When he's out, which I expect will be before they reach the island, he'll definitely want to celebrate Jinbe after all that time waiting for him. That moment may be Carrot's best chance to gain her spot as well. And why her? Because Oda made it clear her story was not over, that she didn't just become ruler of Zou and that Pedro's will still has a part to play in what she chooses to do.
@Deicide Probably when the next island is on the horizon.
@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
@Alfiere said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
(Also, lol at the seemless transition from gloating for "knowing" Yamato wouldn't join in the face of everyone because "it was so clear reading the story" to advocating for fuckin' Carrot of all people basing the argument on merchandise)
I find it interesting people act as if Yamato will never join even though it was emphasized on how Luffy still left his invitation open for Yamato to be set on joining up with him after finishing her little tour.
Please don't make it out like that. I don't believe anyone is saying Yamato is locked out of ever joining. But the idea was that Yamato would be sailing with them now for the last big leg of the journey, getting the last Road Poneglyph, going to Laugh Tale, finding the One Piece, and by all accounts that doesn't look to be the current case. It could change any time, Luffy left it open to any of them to change their minds. But there's no promise that any of them will change their minds either.
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@King-Cannon said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
@Shift Arguably, Carrot being made Zou's ruler was a surprise in itself.
It was as a sudden and inexplicable as Yamato deciding to stay. And made as much sense.
Surprise, bitches.
It was a surprise, but it wasn't settled. She didn't say anything except Pedro's name. I don't think that's where Oda's leaving it.
@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
@Shift said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
Could we expect Yamato to appear more often since Carrot’s fate has been left unanswered and that Yamato will distract more by then?
Before I continue, would you clarify what you mean here?
That when we see Carrot again, could her appearance be taken as a sign that Yamato may show up too?
Okay. Well, sorry to say I don't think so. It's like @fapfapfap said, Yamato was used to trick all of us and distract from Carrot. The trick is over now. If Carrot joins, it'll make the reason for the trick more clear. Yamato could appear again, but it won't have anything to do with Carrot by then.
Why trick us? Why take away from Carrot’s involvement, from her times to shine? I can't be sure, but Oda likes surprising us, getting in the big reveals. And Carrot will have chances to prove herself if she's joining. The crew is accomodating for that, they'll help and support her and she'll get her moments to shine. She lost her fight, she didn't get much to do. But she's still hungry for something, still has Pedro's will pushing her in the back to move onward.
Again, I don't blame anyone for being tricked. So was I up to nearly the end, and it was a weak way to settle it, but at least for the time being, it was still settled.
@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
Could we expect Yamato to appear more often since Carrot’s fate has been left unanswered and that Yamato will distract more by then?
Before I continue, would you clarify what you mean here?
@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
@fapfapfap said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
@fapfapfap said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
With where we're at in the story I don't understand how Yamato could have a delayed joining. Oda's been very clear that he wants to wrap up the series and Wano's rushed ending just further cements this.
The most simple explanation: that Yamato didn't have a clear greater purpose with Luffy and didn't want the development of that to further delay the Straw Hats moving on.
I just think Oda wrote Yamato to be a red herring or even possibly lightly troll the readers. Yamato staying in Wano also feels like a bit of parallel with Katakuri. Both were children of Yonkos and both are in considerable positions of power now that their respective parents have been defeated (ie. passing of the torch to the next generation).
I understand red herrings are meant to distract and mislead? But that’s the thing. Yamato is meant to distract us from what exactly? Mislead us from what exactly?
From Carrot, pretty much.
@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
Well if Yamato can change her mind about sailing out quickly, then I suppose Carrot can also change her mind about sailing the world, since she does always care about her fellow minks.
The Carrot in Chapter 1056 definitely isn't the same as the Carrot in Chapter 804, so maybe it's possible it has been enough time that she has changed her mind, maybe she hasn't. Once again, I'll have to see for myself.
There's a key phrase: can change their mind. I said for a long time during Wano that Yamato could change his mind, choose not to go with the crew, which of course not many agreed with at the time. And I acknowledged that Carrot could likewise choose not to go.
Now the arc is over, and Yamato's choice has been made very clear: he did change his mind, and he stayed with everyone on Wano while the crew sailed off. Oda made it a cut and dry case.
The fact that he didn't make Carrot's choice perfectly clear, left her with doubt after the arc was supposed to be over, indicates to me that her choice will have repurcussions that will affect the story moving forward. If she's going to accept staying on Zou, the only reason to delay showing that is if her choice is super important and will shake things up. And what would shake things up the most? Being a Straw Hat. That's why the delay in her choice is so crazy to me, because being a Straw Hat is clearly on one side of the scale, and it's what would make people react to the most.
@electricmastro said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
what if Pedro's will does turn out to very much key into being a leader, depending on how relevant it is to the Dawn?
Pedro was a leader, it's true. He led the Nox Pirates. If it's shown that Carrot truly believes that he would want her to lead Zou and bring the dawn that way, I would accept it.
However, he was a leader in service to the dukes. His leadership was a means to an end with a clear, if broad, goal in mind and the autonomy to go where he needed to go to achieve it. What Carrot is being tasked to do, rule over all the Minks, would not only restrict her to a pretty small location, one that can move but she can't control by choice, but would be a lifelong committment with no real finish line.
Carrot wanted so desperately to see more outside Zou that she jumped onto Luffy’s ship. And now she's being told she's seen enough; that she can go back to Zou and stay there to fulfill her duty. She hasn't decided that. If she's faced with the prospect that the adventure in the outside world is over, I don't think she's going to accept it. Pedro said to move onward, and what that means is up to her. And based on all I've seen, moving onward for her means getting back out into the world and bringing the dawn that way.
@danie said in Next Straw Hat Crewmates (Vol. 9 - Yamato vs. The World):
You'll aren't giving up until we see her with the other minks huh.
Although once that happens, I guess you'll just say she'll join down the line like Tama supposedly will, right?
My wager with @FolhaS extends just until the crew reaches the island after Wano. If they get there and Carrot still hasn't appeared, I'll accept that she's done. Until then, I'll keep my faith in her and Pedro's will.
This vid by @StrawHatJedi says a lot about what I was thinking:
Here's a take I know not many, if any, will like, but I'm getting it off my chest. Consider Toki's prophecy that hasn't been addressed in a while:
"You are the moon unaware of the dawn. May your purpose be fulfilled and cast nine shadows on the night woven of 20 years. And you shall know the brilliance of the dawn."
My main thought: Carrot is the moon. Luffy would be the sun that brings the dawn, and the rest of the crew, Zoro to Jinbe, would be the nine shadows. Carrot was not aware of her true purpose, but she will know the brilliance of the dawn because she will join the crew that will bring it.
Now, I don't think many will disagree that the matter of Toki's prophecy hasn't been fully addressed. Who was it talking to and/or about?
It's definitely a common theory that the prophecy was just as likely about the Straw Hats as it is about the Akazaya, with Kaido or Orochi seeming to be the moon in question.
If we consider Luffy to represent the dawn as Nika, and his current crewmates including Jinbe as the nine shadows, what if it's not an enemy who's the moon? What if, as I said, Carrot is the moon? Right now she's ignorant of the true importance of Luffy and the crew. That's exactly what Pedro said she would someday understand. She became so focused on avenging Pedro that she lost sight of what he died for in the first place. Carrot, as a Mink and as a rabbit, is among the top candidates to represent the moon itself.
Carrot had no idea about the dawn before Pedro told her, and she seemingly hasn't thought about it since. She will have to know the brilliance of the dawn herself if she wants to make Pedro's dream come true.
At the very least, I have the distinct feeling that Toki was not wasting her words for a villain like Kaido or even Orochi. She was giving a message to someone in the future to whom she wanted to speak. Whoever that may be, Carrot, Momo, Yamato or anyone else, I now believe she meant it positively. She wanted them to open their eyes and see the dawn, exactly what Pedro wanted.
I said this before but I'll say it again: no shame in believing Yamato would be leaving with the crew. I myself had to eventually admit that he was pushed the hardest and most blatantly and couldn't see anyway around it, especially since Carrot herself seemed perfectly happy with how things turned out. And honestly, the way Yamato changed his mind for no clear reason was pretty cheap. So I'm sorry for all his supporters who had the rug pulled from under them.
Up until chapter 1056, I couldn't see any path forward for Carrot. However, that chapter is what brought my fire back, addressing what I and others were waiting years and years for: Pedro's will.
I'll be breaking up my arguments for Carrot into sections and spoiler tagging them for those who couldn't care less about Carrot after losing Yamato. I hope those who do choose to read it understand that I just want to pursue the truth and that if I'm truly wrong, I'll live with it without complaint. I gave myself to the arrival at the next island; if she isn't anywhere by then, I'll let it go for good.
Pedro's Will
I'll most certainly make a new thread once the arc is over. I'm thinking, "Vol. 10: Vivi-Lectric Boo-Karoo."
Theories are fine, as is disagreeing with them. But keep the comments constructive.
I just still find it interesting how some are going so far as to claim that Yamato is guaranteed to stay in Wano forever helping the shogun because of the deity, even though we don't know everything heaven obligates the deity to do and that Kaido has been wrong about other things at this point. lol
Who exactly is saying anything here is guaranteed?