To be fair, in GoT's case, the show became bad once they ran out of source material to adapt and had to continue the plot and character arcs on their own. That's certainly not going to happen in One Piece's case.

Posts made by Riddler
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RE: Season 1 General Discussion
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RE: Season 1 General Discussion
Absolutely. It all depends on the arc, how much of it is spent on fighting and how much is spent on drama, introducing characters, character moments for the main crew etc. Water 7, for example, I would say actually needs more episodes than Enies Lobby, even though they are about equal lenghts in the manga and anime. But for the LA adaptation, Water 7 has a really cool setting, introduces quite a few characters, Frankys backstory, the whole drama around the Merry and Luffy's and Usopp's fight, Robin seemingly betraying them, the whole mystery aspect. Tons of fun and drama that could translate really well to LA. Meanwhile, Enies Lobby has Robin's flashback and the Merry's funeral (which is one chapter) and the rest is fghting and action. Enies Lobby could be realistically done in 1 episode, maybe 1 1/2, whereas Water 7 should have at best, 2 1/2 to 3 episodes for itself.
I think if they adapt Marineford could depend a lot on how the final saga in the manga develops in the meantime. If the climax of the whole series is very similar in terms of tone and feeling to Marineford, they might skip it in the LA, but if it turns out to be really different...
I think they might also already adapt some of Luffy's later backstory with Ace and Sabo in S2, when they introduce Ace in the present time, as a continuation of the flashbacks in S1.
As for Post-TS, One Piece, it's a lot harder to judge and seems so far away anyway. I always thought four seasons, but maybe they could even realistically condense it down to two?? If we go with 4 seasons for Pre-TS, maybe S5 Fishman Punk Hazard and Dressrosa? That might make sense - Punk Hazard and Dressrosa are too connected to split them up into two different seasons, but Fishman Island is too short to carry a whole season (which would not be a great idea anyway). Plus Dressrosa is too bloated to begin with.
And then S6, could Whole Cake Island and Wano fit together into one season? It seems unthinkable considering their length, but soooo much of it is spend on fighting. It's hard to say. It would make thematic sense - after all, Big Mom and Kaido are both defeated at the end of Wano and the two arcs, along with Zou, are one big Yonkou saga...hmm.
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RE: Season 1 General Discussion
I think Alabasta for S2 is a given. It fits the season structure perfectly in terms onf length, overarching plotline and villain. Many iconic, fan-favorite characters introduced as well (Chopper, vivi, Robin, Smoker, Ace, Crocodile, Mr. 2), and the season can be neatly split into "first half - Laboon-Drum" and second half - Alabasta".
I really don't think they would (almost) completely cut Whitebeard and Marineford, I think the fans would riot lol. I know it's not that popular on here, but it's absolutely in many people's top 3 arcs. I think taking the time to completely focus one whole season on East Blue and then another whole season on Alabasta and then squish everything else into one season is not a good idea. I think you need at least 4 seasons to sensibly cover all of Pre-TS. S3 Skypiea & Water 7/Enies Lobby, S4 Thriller Bark and Marineford. 5 seasons would be a bit better to let things breath, but 4 is doable. But three seasons, no way. I don't care if it's not realistic to get to the end of the show otherwise, what's even the point if you just butcher everything else to such a degree?
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RE: Season 1 General Discussion
I think in terms of arcs that are most iconic and generally beloved by the fans, Alabasta, Water 7/Enies Lobby and the Marineford War seem to me like the three sagas from Pre-TS that people would be extremely excited to see, whereas Skypiea and Thriller Bark I could see being changed or shortened considerably (I'm not talking from my own perspective of what arcs are good or bad, more from what I think is the general fan's opinion). If you look at season 1, the Syrup village arc, an arc that many consider to be a weaker one, was changed considerably, while the general structure and story beats of the beloved Arlong Park arc were kept mostly intact. For the Baratie arc, they focused on the most popular and well-liked aspects of the arc (Zoro vs. Mihawk, Sanji's backstory and his goodbye to Zeff), and cut the less well-liked Krieg plotline.
I think that's a pattern we can expect from future seasons as well, so we should look at which moments, characters and plotlines from future arcs are beloved and iconic, and which are less so. For example, when you think Drum arc, you immediately think Chopper's backstory, his relationship with Kureha, and Luffy climbing the mountain with a sick Nami on his back. Everything else - the Lapahns, the fight against Wapol - is fun, but seems much more negligible to me.
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RE: Season 2 (and Beyond?) Speculation Thread (Spoilers)
I find it funny how quickly the goalposts were moved xD First, everybody assumed the show would completely crash and burn, now it's a disaster if it isn't at No. 1 for several weeks in at least 80-100 countries.
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RE: Season 2 (and Beyond?) Speculation Thread (Spoilers)
I mean, how do you keep viewers when all episodes are available from Day 1? I don't really get how this system is supposed to work. Like, if one hundred people are interested in One Piece, and 80 of them are so damn interested, they are gonna watch it in the first week it's available, then there will be only 20 people left to watch it in Week 2. Seems more like a downside of airing the whole season at once, if you ask me? Does anybody have the numbers on big hits like Wednesday in that regard? How did that one change from week to week
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RE: Episode 7 (The Girl with the Sawfish Tattoo) - Discussion
I feel like if they had included Hachi, they would have already made him a bit more sympathetic i. e. more in line with his later characterization. In retrospect, Arlong Park Hachi seems a bit too mean, like he has no qualms about murdering Bellmere, enslaving the villagers, kidnapping kid Nami etc. He's still likable enough because of his goofy personality that we gladly accept his redemption later on, but he wasn't exactly portrayed as nicer than the other Fishmen. When Arlong ends up betraying Nami, he just laughs at her like the rest of them.
So even if they had included the character, it might very likely have been a different take where he ends up switching sides or something.
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RE: Season 1 General Discussion
I have a huge smile on my face right now
I just watched a review of the series by a German reviewer of films and tv shows on Youtube, who had never watched or read One Piece before watching the Live Action series. He described how much joy he felt while watching the episodes, and how much he enjoyed Luffy's wide eyed sense of adventure, how touching he found Nami's backstory etc.
He pretty much echoed how I felt when I fell in love with One Piece when I first watched the anime.
Then I scrolled down to the comments and was hit by a wave of positivity. Super fans who have been reading the manga for decades! People who watched the anime as a kid and felt really nostalgic after watching the series! People who were completely unfamiliar with One Piece that binged the LA version and are now excited to check out the manga or anime!
Wow!
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RE: Season 1 General Discussion
You can't just go by number of chapters, you also have to look at their content. East Blue saga introduces five main characters and their backstories and consists of 6 different arcs, all with their own location, plot line and cast of secondary characters. You basically have to introduce viewers to a new location and new characters every single episode, most of which will only matter for that episode or the next.
Skypiea may be similar in length, but you have like two locations and what, 4 or 5 important secondary characters you have to introduce and feature. Spending like 6 episodes on Upper Yard is just too much and not really warranted in terms of plot. A huge part of this arc consists of fighting. We have to get used to the idea that most fights will at most be a couple of minutes in length.
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RE: Season 2 (and Beyond?) Speculation Thread (Spoilers)
I think they might actually skip Loguetown or combine it's plot points with Whiskey Peak. They already had the whole "Luffy's smile is reminiscent of Roger" scene in the finale, and I can't see them just repeating that moment. They also already had the oath scene, so what else is there on Loguetown? Zoro getting his new swords and Tashigi/Smokers introduction, plus Dragon helping Luffy. All of that could easily take place on Whiskey Peak, after entering the Grand Line. The final scenes already teased Reverse Mountain, I just have a hard time seeing them going back from that to "Oh well actually, let's stop at this island before we go to the Grand Line".
Either way, even if they keep, I don't think Loguetown needs a whole episode to itself. It's super short in the manga. I think they could easily combine it with Laboon/Whiskey Peak in one episode. They will probably condense stuff and make some changes to the story anyway.
Since they don't have to also include 5 full character flashbacks, they will have a lot more time to focus on the present. Little Garden could easily be done in 1 episode - honestly, it's plot is basically "they meet giants and then they fight some BW agents". Move Mr. 5 and Miss Valentine to Little Garden, no need to have them fight the crew twice. Two episodes for Drum sounds perfect, leaving us with plenty of time for Alabasta, no matter if they have 8 or 10 episodes.
We will probably get a lot more Ace, and of course Smoker and Tashigi. Probably some cameos of Garp and Koby here and there. Not sure what they will do with Buggy, he had such an extended role in S1 that I don't really need him attacking the crew with Alvida. Maybe they will find some other way to tie him in. I also bet that we would already get Blackbeard and Shanks meeting with Whitebeard. On the other hand, that would also mean that we won't see most of these characters for a long while, which might feel a bit weird.
Anyway S2 focusing on the Alabasta saga feels like a very logical choice to me and fits the length of a season nicely.
Now Season 3 is where things would start to become tricky. I don't think it would be a good idea to skip Skypiea completely but I have to agree that the arc just doesn't need a whole 8-10 episodes to itself, even including Jaya. After the characters enter Upper Yard, it's basically two volumes of fighting. I'd say one episode of introducing us to the Skypiea characters and exploring Angel Island, one episode for all of the stuff on Upper Yard, one episode for the fight against Enel, the flashback, and the end of the arc. I just don't see how that can be stretched to a full season.
My idea for S3 always was to have the first half focus on Skypiea and the second half on the confrontation with Aokiji and Water 7, ending on a cliffhanger in which Usopp and Robin have left the crew. Not sure if they would want to go that route, but it be pretty dramatic. No idea what kind of side character storylines they could do for this season though, most of the secondary cast really just disappears between Jaya and Post-Enies Lobby lol. I don't think that is gonna fly in the LA show.
Going with that plan, Season 4 would be similarly divided into two halves: first half Enies Lobby, second half Thriller Bark and Sabaody, ending on the cliffhanger of the crew being separated.
Season 5 is then pretty easy again, it would start with Amazon Lilly and show the whole Marineford saga. We would probably get a lot more scenes of what the other Strawhats are doing in the meantime as secondary plot lines.
So, 5 seasons for Pre-TS One Piece seems pretty reasonable to me.
Then Season 6, depends. They could shorten Fishman Island and Punk Hazard to two episodes each I think...in that case, I think they could do Fishman Island, Punk Hazard and Dressrosa all in one season. Or I guesse Season 6 Fishman Island and Punk Hazard, Season 7 Dressrosa? I know Dressrosa is long and bloated, but a whole season on it seems a bit much. Punk Hazard and Dressrosa would fit well thematically into one season (2-3 episodes Punk Hazard, rest Dressrosa sounds pretty good) but I can't see them just excluding Fishman Island completely.
Either way, Season 7/8 would be Zou/Whole Cake Island and Season 8/9 Wano. Depending how long the current final saga will be, a 10 season show to cover the whole series actually sounds kinda feasible! Obviously, it's much harder to predict the later seasons since we don't know what changes they will make. For example, Post-Enies Lobby will be pretty different now that we already got the Garp reveal much earlier.
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RE: Episode 8 (Worst in the East) - Discussion
Pretty cool finale for the first season of LA One Piece! I think the Strawhats vs. Arlong pirates is a pretty good indicator on how future battles will look and how much time they will really take in comparison to the anime. A couple of minutes per fight at most. It's a shame about Zoro vs. Hachi, but if any fight had to be left out, I'm ok with it being this one. Not because I don't like it, I do, but fact is, Zoro already had plenty of cool moments this season. Usopp and Sanji needed the screentime and the opportunity to show what they got much more.
Usopp's fight was pretty neat, it's basically the same as in the original. I was sad to see that they left out the moment where he overcomes his cowardice, I feel like they could have added that to give the fight a more dramatic impact. It was still cool, basically the first time where he really showed off his fighting skills. The Sanji/Zoro tagteam, including their bickering back and forth, was also a lot of fun. I think they really should have included the part where Kuroobi drags Sanji under water...imo the Fishman in general got kind of robbed of their time to shine and show of their abilities.
This is most apparent in Luffy vs. Arlong. Arlong's personality and portrayal was, once again, on point, but he really didn't get to show what he could do. I mean, he didn't even hurt Luffy. No Shark on Darts, no biting Luffy or piercing him with his nose. Still, I thought the drama of their fight came across rather well, as did the "Nami, we're friends!" scene.
Poor Genzo was totally shafted. He isn't even a symbolic part of Nami's new tattoo in this version! Their solution for what Nami's tattoo means in this version was pretty creative, I'll give them that, but why not just keep the pinwheel? Don't tell me it would be too silly when Nezumi is running around with freaking Mouse ears on his hat!
The resolution of the Garp and Koby stuff, I thought was good. Nice reveal that Garp was just testing Luffy's willpower, puts a lot of his earlier behavior into context. It also came across quite well that Luffy at this point would be absolutely no match for him. Best part though was Koby saying goodbye to Luffy. We'll probably see a lot less of Koby in season 2...
Now, until this part of the episode, I would have probably rated the episode a bit lower. But then they really delivered in the last few scenes. Seeing all those characters from across the season reacting to Luffy's bounty was just as wholesome and cool as it always is in the manga, and it really tied the whole season together well. And I loved every scene with the crew all together on the Going Merry! Usopp boasting about his head being visible in the background of the wanted poster! Nami's tangerine trees! The oath (very cool idea to show everybody's kids version as they are saying their oath, that also helped make the season feel like a cohesive whole)!
But best of all: presenting the sails with the giant Strawhat Jolly Roger! I had goosebumps! Very, very good idea to keep that moment for the end of the season. It worked perfectly to symbolize that NOW they really are a crew and this was just the prologue, now the adventures of the Strawhat crew can really begin.
All in all, a pretty good show, that on it's own, I would probably rate...hmm....7,5? But as an adaptation that actually succeeded against all odds and delivered an overall fun and satisfying live-action version of One Piece, that can be enjoyed both by new and old fans? That earns them at least another point, so 8.5 over all it is!
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RE: Episode 7 (The Girl with the Sawfish Tattoo) - Discussion
If that was supposed to be Hachi, I didn't get that from the episode. He doesn't act or overly look like him, at least.
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RE: Episode 7 (The Girl with the Sawfish Tattoo) - Discussion
I'm going to go against the more mixed reception of this thread and say that I absolutely loved this episode and think it's the best one so far. Yeah, if you directly compare it to the manga/anime, certain scenes aren't quite as impactful, certain cool character moments or nuances are missing...but if you try to look at it on its own, it's pretty damn well done.
I'm gonna come right out and say it: I think I actually like this version where the villagers and Nojiko don't know anything about Nami's plans more. It always rubbed me the wrong way that they acted like they all hated Nami in the original. I get their reasoning, but it just always felt kinda mean to me, like I'm sure Nami would have appreciated people not treating her like an outcast and a witch for 10 years, you know? What I like about this version is that Nami actually was completely on her own for 10 years, with no friends or family to support her in anyway. And this change gave us a pretty moving reconciliation scene between Nami and Nojiko, which I personally liked.
And imo, they nailed the ending scene, from Nami stabbing herself, to Luffy stopping her, to Nami finally asking for help and Luffy putting the hat on her - I had goosebumps and I think this moment would be hella effective and moving for anyone not familiar with the story. I think I actually preferred Luffy responding quietly to him shouting his response to the sky, though.
While I generally like the added B-plot of Garp and Koby, there have been episodes where I felt their scenes where kinda unnecessary and took away from the main plot. While there could be an argument made that their scenes in this episode could instead have been used to include more details of the Arlong arc, man, I loved what we got here! First of all, I didn't expect to get more of the Baratie and Zeff, so this alone was a pleasant surprise. But Koby and Helmeppo bonding over shots at the bar? Garp and Zeff sharing scenes together while reminiscing over old times? Yes please! That was so much fun, the kind of character crossover I didn't know I needed. I'm all for the LA version giving us inspired alternative takes on the familiar story like this one.
Stuff I also quite enjoyed:
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Arlong Park being an actual amusement park.
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Most of the Fishmen designs, surprisingly. I actually think Kuroobi and Chuu look the worst, all the random extra Fishmen looked way better to me.
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Arlong! They nailed Arlong! He's more ferocious here than cold and calculating, which I'm fine with!
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Sanji's portrayal - I might actually start to prefer this charming, sweetheart Sanji to his original perverted horndog counterpart! - and his interactions with the rest of the crew, particularly Zoro.
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Buggy's inclusion in the story. I have no idea what role, if any, he'll play in the finale, but it's fun so far!
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Emily Rudd's acting in the final scene.
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The score in the final scene and during the credits for this episode was epic!
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Nezumi's part in the story being included - I think including Arlong's betrayal of Nami was really important to sell her desperation
Stuff I didn't like as much or had some problems with:
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Genzo having a less intimate relationship with Nami and Bellmere - I wish they would have kept him getting his scars while trying to protect Nami
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Bellmere being less badass than in the original version and generally some changes for the flashback, like getting less of their dynamic as a family and her and Nami making up before she gets killed. Oda is so damn good at making us fall in love with characters with just a few scenes, and that was just lacking here a bit, i. e. we should have gotten a bit more of Bellmere's personality before she got murdered by Arlong.
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No Hachi
I get it, his arms were too hard to do in live-action, but still.
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RE: Episode 6 (The Chef and the Chore Boy) - Discussion
Them chasing down Nami was always mainly about Luffy insisting on Nami being the navigator for his crew though. Zoro even suggests to just abandon her and the ship and get a new one in the manga/anime, but Luffy insists on following them to get Nami back. Sure, Nami stealing the ship and all their treasure (and later on seemingly stabbing Usopp) made her apparent betrayal of the crew's trust much bigger in the manga, but otherwise, it's not such a bad change. And I actually liked how worried she was about Zoro fighting Mihawk and risking his life.
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RE: Episode 6 (The Chef and the Chore Boy) - Discussion
All things considered, they made this alternative version of the Baratie arc work quite well. I thought Sanji's and Zeff's relationship was nicely depicted and that the flashback was pretty effective and well done. I really liked that they didn't shy away from Zeff eating his own leg to save Sanji. The goodbye scene between the two was a bit more subdued, but emotional nonetheless. Overall a good introduction to Sanji - one may argue that he was overshadowed a bit by all the other stuff going on, but I'd say that anybody new to the story would quite like Sanji after these two episodes and have a good grip on his basic personality and backstory.
Arlong coming to the Baratie ended up working pretty well for the story. I thought he seemed pretty threatening and scary, and they did a good job of showcasing his racism. Also, great idea to have a fishman working at the Baratie - it makes really clear Fishmen aren't bad per say, but only Arlong and his crew. I think in the manga, Tom was first sympathetic fishman character we met, so I think that was a good addition. Also, by directly connecting the Baratie and Arlong arcs and also treating Zoro's wounds very seriously, they managed to make this episode a "low point" of the season for the Strawhats - Zoro is on the verge of death, Nami seemingly betrayed the crew and Luffy's endless optimism is wavering for the first time. You didn't really have something like that in the original saga.
The final scenes were Zoro wakes up and he and Luffy have a really nice bonding moment, and then Sanji also joins the crew, are thus pretty effective in uplifting the mood again and raising excitement for the final two episodes. So, yeah, they changed a lot, but I was overall pretty happy with the LA Baratie arc.
Also, great way to keep Buggy around! I look forward to seeing how they'll include his character in the rest of the season.
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RE: Episode 5 (Eat at Baratie!) - Discussion
After I was a little disappointed by episode 4, I immensely enjoyed this one. Just seeing the crew hang out at Baratie and actually becoming friends was so cool. Loved Zoro's and Nami's little drinking game and Usopp dancing like an idiot. I actually felt like I got a much better sense of Usopp as a character than during the Syrup arc episodes. Really enjoyed him drunkingly telling his Captain Usopp stories at the Baratie bar.
The Baratie set was easily the best location they had so far. I don't think it really came across what a crazy place the Baratie can be (i. e. the Fighting cooks), which I think could have been achieved by either giving the confrontation with Fullbody or Gin more focus. And I already love this version of Sanji, he seems immensely charming. One of my favorite scenes was Usopp and Zoro teasing Nami about Sanji's crush on her, lol.
Finally, Garp acts a bit more like his manga counterpart. That was cool, and he actually threw a cannonball at them! Him calling Mihawk directly to deal with the Luffy situation was an interesting change - it made it seem like these two characters had some kind of connection. Shame Krieg got reduced to a cameo. I mean, he always was one of the weakest villains of the show, but still...I'm curious to see what will happen next episode now to give Sanji and Zeff some focus.
Mihawk's fight with Zoro was pretty cool, but by removing certain elements like other characters watching, Zoro falling into the ocean or Luffy losing and angrily attacking Mihawk, they removed some of the dramatic impact. I guess I will have to get used to the show in general not being as emotionally impactful as the manga/anime.
Anyway, overall one of my favorites so far!
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RE: Episode 4 (The Pirates Are Coming) - Discussion
It seems like most consider this episode the weakest of the bunch so far, and I tend to agree, though I still had fun. No Jango is a crying shame, since he is easily the most memorable and entertaining antagonist of this arc. I guess the hypnosis plot was deemed to complicated for the two episodes they had planned for this arc? In general, Kuro's plan was simplified, no pirates attacking the village or anything, which makes the plot easier to handle in a shorter timeframe, but it also makes it less well-planned. I mean, Kuro's original plan was quite convoluted, but it made at least sense - have his crew slaughter the village in order to hide that Kaya was the real target all along and that Beauregard was behind the attack. In this version, however, Kaya would just be incidentally murdered in her mansion at the day of her 18th birthday and I guess Kuro was just hoping that nobody would find that suspicious?
On the flipside, the Nyaban siblings were more fun than in the anime imo. Captain Kuro was also done generally well, loved his rant when he was searching for Kaya. He also made a very appropriate villain for a kind of creepier setting. I remember the anime also added a scene in which, after he had attacked Merry, he sneaked into Kaya's bedroom and held his knifes to her throat while she was sleeping, which I always thought was really creepy. Due to the closed space his fight with Luffy was happening in, I thought his powers didn't really come across as well, however. And sadly, there was no scene of Kuro killing his subordinates and making Luffy really mad.
In general, I think what bothered me a little is that they really left out the strong emotional beats of this arc, which Usopp suffered the most from. I generally like that they are giving Koby's storyline so much focus and turning it into the B-plot of the show, and also that they gave Kaya more of a bond with the crew and more character development of her own, but it completely removed the focus from Usopp, who almost seemed like a secondary character in his own arc.
Aside from the beginning scene of episode 3 and his general relationship with Kaya, I didn't really feel like we got to know the guy. No Usopp pirates removed the idea that Usopp spent his whole life playing pretend pirate, and thus it also left out his resolution at the end of the arc to disband the Usopp pirates to set out to sea and become a real pirate. In this version, he really doesn't come to this conclusion on his own, and why would he? He didn't really fight or defeat any of the pirates (because Jango was left out), he wasn't beaten to a pulp and yet kept on fighting for his village and for Kaya - he just spend a night hiding from some creepy murderer in a mansion. When I read the arc in the manga or watch it in the anime, I completely buy that the events lead Usopp to come to a self-realization about himself that leads to his decision to go out to sea and become a real pirate. In this version, I don't really get that at all.
The actor did a good job, but I felt they neither very effectively established that Usopp was a coward and a liar to begin with, nor did they effectively display his resolution to stop the pirates no matter what, which is really what makes the other Strawhats respect him as a person so much.
All of this sounds pretty negative, but I didn't dislike the episode at all. I think I gave it a 4-star rating last night, but a 3 star rating would probably be more appropriate after thinking about it some more. Still, it was a fun episode and an entertaining watch. These episodes are entertaining and well-done and imo you really start to slowly fall in love with the Strawhats around this point, just like you did in the manga around this point.
Also, instrumental version of "We Are" at the end, what else is there to say?
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RE: Episode 3 (Tell No Tales) - Discussion
Fun episode! Beauregard seems like a total creep in those though, I wouldn't trust this guy as far as I could throw him. I'm very sad to see the Usopp pirates have been cut, that imo takes away something from Usopp spending his time playing pretend pirate. That said, I really like how her and Usopp's relationship was depicted and thst she actually also bonded with the rest of the crew a bit.
Other things I really liked: the scene where Luffy finds the Merry and in general how the Strawhats and their dynamic is handled. The interactions seem pitch perfect to me. Oh and one thing I haven't mentioned so far: I looove how they play around with the "One Piece" title card in each episode!
This show is a lot of fun so far. Poor Merry though! R. I. P.
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RE: Episode 2 (The Man in the Straw Hat) - Discussion
Loved this episode. As everybody else already said, Jeff Ward's portrayal as Buggy was awesome. A more serious and threatening take on the character, that made him feel more real. Him holding the town as prisoners and forcing them to be his audience was pretty fucked up.
They are also playing Garp pretty straight, but I like the portrayal of the actor. I also really liked Kid Luffy's actor and thought his reaction when Shanks gave him his head was really moving. It's hard to gauge how impactful the scene of Shanks losing his arm would be for viewers unfamiliar with the story, in comparison with the original.
Sad that they excluded the Buggy balls as well as Luffy actually kicking him in the balls lol. I also missed Nami tricking and stealing from Buggy, I always liked their little dynamic, even though it doesn't really matter in the long run.
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RE: Episode 1 (Romance Dawn) - Discussion
Just watched the first episode and yeah, I really enjoyed it as well. I especially loved Nami's and Zoro's portrayals; Zoro is amazingly badass and I LOVED all of his fight scenes. I remember thinking all the way back when this was first announced that they would for sure remove his three-sword style as I thought it would be impossible to get right in live-action. I guess I underestimated them thoroughly.
And I loved Emily's acting, much better and more emotive than the trailers made it seem. She really incorporated Nami perfectly - I'm glad they included the scene where she tricks the Buggy pirates, it's a perfect showing of her character. She seemed badass, yet kinda vulnerable at the same time. And her interactions with Luffy were perfect, I could actually easily imagine anime Luffy and Nami in those scenes.
Helmeppo was fun, but I wish they would have included the scene of Luffy using him as a human shield, that one always made me laugh. Morgan seemed much less villainous to me in this version. I liked the pompous decoration of his room, though.
Some of the visuals were really neat as well, like Zoro blowing out the candles with his swords. So far, so good!
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RE: Season 1 General Discussion
The season has a 95% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes right now. Super impressive, I can't believe it's getting such a positive reaction! Can't wait to watch tonight, but I'm still at work, damn it. I would love to watch it all at once immediately, but I also promised a friend we'd watch it together, which would mean it would probably take us a couple of weeks to watch everything..
Man if Netflix doesn't renew this for a second season, they are officially dead to me.
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RE: Funimation DVD Discussion IV (Please Check First Post for FAQ)
@Captain-Krupp said in Funimation DVD Discussion IV (Please Check First Post for FAQ):
How many episodes do they include?
Usually around 30, so similar to the collections.
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RE: Funimation DVD Discussion IV (Please Check First Post for FAQ)
The German dvds cost way more and don't even include the Japanese dub. I was always amazed at Funimation including special features in the first place, that just doesn't really happen for anime box sets over here.
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RE: RIP Those We Lost in 2023
Oh man, that ia so sad. She will always be the best Harley Quinn to me...
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RE: One Piece Live-Adaptation Drama Announced
Oh, I prefer that, too. It also keeps up hype and discussion for a series much longer. But as far as I know, that's how Netflix usually handles new seasons or shows.
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RE: One Piece Live-Adaptation Drama Announced
I think they are all coming out at the same, right?
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RE: Chapter 1090: Kizaru
@electricmastro said in Chapter 1090: Kizaru:
So is Bonney closer to becoming a Straw Hat after getting over Vegapunk and continually hanging out with the Straw Hats like Sanji?
Do you honestly think she is going to become a Strawhat? What makes her special enough to be a main character?
Personally, I've felt pretty much since the timeskip that we were done with gaining new crewmembers. It just felt wrong to me to add a member now who completely missed the Strawhat's and Luffy's lowest point in the series. Jinbei is a special case, as though he joined pretty late in the game, he was introduced pre-timeskip, palyed a special part in helping Luffy get over his grief, and has joined the crew on several adventures before he finally joined.
But there hasn't been a single new character introduced Post-TS who ended up actually joining the crew. In retrospect, one could say that Pre-TS was mainly about building the Strawhat crew, as new members were joining pretty much every single arc. Post-TS, on the other hand, has been about actually becoming the Pirate King - everything Luffy has done in the New World has furthered that goal in retrospect (making alliances, building a grand fleet, taking down direct obstacles to the throne like the Emperors, finding the Road porneglyphs that lead to the One Piece etc.)
Imo Oda also partially didn't let Jinbei join for so long because he wanted to keep the discussion going on who else might join the crew - after all, if Jinbei was still promised to join, who says others couldn't also still join as well? But now that's done and over with and most promising new crewmember since entering the New World, Yamato, didn't actually end up joining either, it couldn't have been made more clear to me that that's it.
I mean, maybe you'll have some characters joining at the end of the series, like some epilogue-thing, but not for the actual series imo.
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RE: One Piece Live-Adaptation Drama Announced
03:13 Aww Usopp and Nami holding hands! I always loved their relationship as the two "normal" people on the crew.
This honestly looks so good to me. Even if there will turn out to be some flaws, I'm honestly amazed that they seem to have managed to create an adaptation that actually captures the look and feel of the original East Blue saga so well. I hope so much that they will be rewarded for their efforts with a second season order!
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RE: Pixar movies
Funnily enough, Elemental is now doing better at the box office than it was doing in its first few weeks, when everybody immediately proclaimed it to be a colossal flop. While it's still not exactly a big success for Pixar and Disney, it's not quite as disastrous as, for example Lightyear or even Cars 3. Imo it's a pretty good argument against being impatient and immediately pulling disappointing movies from theaters or releasing them on streaming as quickly as possible.
Btw, could we perhaps pin this thread? Feels a bit weird to me that the threads for Disney Animation and Non-Disney Animation are pinned but this one isn't.
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RE: Yugioh Abridged
I care! I started rewatching the series recently and it's humour still holds up damn well. Some of it would probably be considered offensive now, but the writing is just so sharp and his voice acting so funny. I just finished the first season, which got better and better with each episode, but his first Abridged Movie has been my absolute highlight so far.
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RE: One Piece Live-Adaptation Drama Announced
Oh man, Emily is clearly such a huge One Piece nerd, I love it
Can we get her to join the forums please?
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RE: Chapter 1088: Final Lesson
@triangular_maze said in Chapter 1088: Final Lesson:
So, when I first looked at the color pages, the "Netflix" didn't immediately register, and I thought that Oda was starting a new thing with this, which would be to commemorate all of the previous arcs, starting with East Blue, and that every color page from here on out would continue with the next arc, and so on.
For a tiny moment there, I thought that we're really entering the endgame, now. It was kind of a bittersweet moment, this realization. Even though we are not quite there yet, someday this story is going to end. There will be a last cover page story (I wonder which character it's going to be). There will be a final color spread.Oda should absolutely do the color spread arc recap thing when it's time, though.
Also, does this mean that Garp will be in the Netflix series?
Yup, he's been cast and can also briefly been seen in the new trailer.
@Captain-M I loved your post about Garp and Koby and how their answers reflected their characters
Well said!
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RE: One Piece Live-Adaptation Drama Announced
@Robby said in One Piece Live-Adaptation Drama Announced:
"Who is this live action for?"
Everyone that dismisses comic books and cartoons no matter what. Everyone here is already a convert, we know how good cartoons can be. But outside of anomolies like Frozen, animation just is NOT as wide stream as anything live action. Like the new Spiderverse movie has made like 600 million! Fantastic, huge improvement over the first!
The most recent live action Spider man almost 2 billion. Nearly 3 times as much. Even the lowest grossing live action Spidey, Amazing 2, made 800 mill.
Look at the top 200 highest grossing movies of all time. 26 of those movies are animated and they're almost all sequels. The other 174 slots are live action. (And in the top 50 its like, 7 films, none in the top ten.)
WE all know animation is great, we don't have to be convinced. But the general public its always just kids stuff and they'll never give it a chance.
If you want to reach a NEW audience, you need to do live action. Same with Last Airbender.
Yeah, it's near perfect in its animated form and live action won't improve it. But there's millions and millions of people that might be willng to watch it and get the same story we already love, that have ignored the animated one for 15 years... just because its animated and "for kids".
Not to mention that there is also a subset of people who may even be fine with watching cartoons but never got into anime, for whatever reasons. I know plenty of people, especially in my age group (i. e. late twenties, early thirties) who just aren't interested in manga and anime, it's just completely foreign to them. Meanwhile, the same people would definitely watch this trailer and then get interested in the show, as it's not too different from mixing a series about pirates with superhero-stuff, which are both super popular with most people.
That's why I also get slightly annoyed by people who complain the trailer felt too much like Pirates of the Caribbean or the humor to MCU-ish. Guys, these are mega popular huge franchises, it's a good thing if the trailer manages to get fans of these franchises interested in checking out One Piece. Doesn't mean that they should turn the LA series into a cheap carbon copy of those IPs, but it doesn't hurt if the show has some aspects (like the music, for example) that feel a little reminiscent in parts.
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RE: New Forum Bug Thread
It seems to be only happening to me, I guess? But it does happen almost every time I try to open the site.
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RE: New Forum Bug Thread
Hello, I've been encountering a little bug since yesterday - whenever I visit the site, I first get a blank screen telling me the site is currently unavailable. After a couple of seconds, the site then loads normally and everything works fine.
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RE: One Piece Live-Adaptation Drama Announced
I've spotted Genzo (and I think Nojiko? She's portrayed by a black woman, right?) behind Sanji during the scene in the trailer where he is telling Zoro that he saved his ass. And during the scene where Sanji tries to attack Kuroobi in the Baratie but gets his attack blocked, I think that's Chuu behind Sanji - he is kinda blurry and in the background, so it might just be a generic fishman pirate, but he's wearing Chuu's outfit.
I've actually already gotten used to the Going Merry's look and now think it's kinda cute. Not as cute as the original one, but still. The Fishmen in general look pretty good. Garp and especially Buggy look perfect. There is a moment where you see Buggy smiling, with his four knives between his fingers, and his actor manages to look charming, scary and silly at the same time.
This all looks so faithful to the original that I actually find myself excited to see which changes they've made, because I know they will be in good faith.
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RE: One Piece Live-Adaptation Drama Announced
This trailer was amazing. I think I would actually give this a watch even if I wasn't a fan already. Seriously it actually looks really good. And I surprisingly don't care at all that they cut out Krieg and combine Baratie and Arlong arc into one arc. I hope they still find away to give Sanji his proper screentime and characterization.
Damn, I'm actually fucking hyped now.
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RE: Movies that don't deserve their own thread
I liked the whimsical tone of the trailer. Do we know if this is supposed to be the prequel story of a specific, already known version of Wonka or a new take on the character? The Oompa-Loompas are clearly designed like the 1971 version, but Timothy looks a lot more like Johnny Depp's version.
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RE: Indiana Jones 5 (2019)
Hey, whaddaya know, there is an existing thread for this movie. I've just seen it a couple of hours ago, and imo it's fine. Not as good as the first three, but certainly better than the fourth one in my eyes. Your mileage may vary on how much you like/dislike the climax of the film, but overall, it more or less managed to come close to the feeling of the original trilogy and treated its main character with respect and dignity. A lot of negative reviews claim that Indy is overshadowed by the female main character of the film, who is supposedly portrayed as perfect in every way while Indy comes across as a useless old man. I didn't get that impression at all...I thought Indiana Jones was clearly the main character and focus of the film, and while his female companion got her fair share of badass and cool moments, she also had a fair bunch of deliberate character flaws.
While I can't say it was really necessary to continue the franchise with this film, it overall left a positive impression on me and does work well as a finish to the franchise.
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RE: One Piece Live-Adaptation Drama Announced
I didn't even think it looked that bad, but I might just have pretty low standards when it comes to CGI quality. The Lord of the Coast imo looked really, really good though.
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RE: One Piece Live-Adaptation Drama Announced
One thing that I would find troublesome about removing Skypiea (and also Jaya) is that you completely cut Robin bonding with the crew. Otherwise, you jump straight from Robin joining the crew in a surprise twist, at a point where most of the crew are a little wary of her, to her leaving the crew.
That long arc inbetween is super important to make both the crew and the audience getting used to and actually caring about Robin as a character and member of the crew. I think Water 7/Enies Lobby loses a lot of dramatic impact without Skypiea.
That said, I think the Skypiea saga can easily be condensed into 3 or 4 episodes. How about making Skypiea the first half of S3 and Water 7 the second half, ending on a cliffhanger. And then similarly split S4 into first half Enies Lobby/second half Thriller Bark and Sabaody. I think it's abdolutely doable. Skypiea has like a whole volume or two solely consisting of characters fighting, which would take much less time in live-action.
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RE: One Piece Live-Adaptation Drama Announced
@The-Light-of-Shandora said in One Piece Live-Adaptation Drama Announced:
Found the German version of the trailer, they decided to go with the anime voice actors, works better for me than the English trailer.
Might even watch the German dub. Gosh maybe we get the iconic first opening again. That would be fantastic.
I wonder if every Dub will try to recruit their anime voice actors or go with new ones.Damn, that actually improved the trailer for me as well. It's pretty amazing how well Daniel Schlauch's voice (German dub voice actor of Luffy) fits Iñaki Godoy's face.
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RE: One Piece Live-Adaptation Drama Announced
I liked the teaser, it's actually closer to the look and feel of the anime than I expected it to be. I kinda wish it would have actually focused more on the mystery and adventure aspect of the show. For some reason, I expected the classic Gold Roger intro for the trailer, but maybe they are saving that for the next trailer. It's hard to judge if this looks appealing for potential viewers who don't know the manga or anime. The Lord of the Coast looks pretty awesome btw.
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RE: Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs
While everybody is busy watching Across the Spiderverse (I still haven't seen the first one dammit!), I went and watched GotG a second time. And...it might actually be my favorite of the trilogy now? It's rare that I see a movie that evokes such a wide range of emotions in me, but I laughed so much and actually cried at several moments. It's maddeningly sad at certain points, but it's also really beautiful.
Not really a spoiler, but some thoughts about Gamora in the movie
I know this is a super unpopular opinion, but Vol. 1 is actually the weakest part of the trilogy to me now. It has the weakest villain out of all three films, the weakest soundtrack imo and the smallest emotional impact for me, And several characters who are now among my favorites like Nebula or Yondu are pretty one-dimensional and boring in Vol. 1.
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RE: Funimation DVD Discussion IV (Please Check First Post for FAQ)
@Muginiz said in Funimation DVD Discussion IV (Please Check First Post for FAQ):
@Luffy_80 said in Funimation DVD Discussion IV (Please Check First Post for FAQ):
Anyone want to hazard a guess as to how much longer Wano will last on Fuji? I read the manga, but don't remember how much was left, and what chapter we are on here.
21 chapters are left to adapted. So, 25ish episodes
I could see them expanding on the Post-Onigashima part of the arc a fair bit. That stuff felt so rushed in the manga. I wouldn't mind some filler of the Strawhats spending some time with the locals while recovering.
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RE: Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs
There are a few small references to it here and there, but it shouldn't be a problem if you haven't seen it. It's fun though and pretty short, so if you already have a Disney+ account anyway, I don't see a reason not to watch it beforehand either.
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RE: Marvel Movies Thread - Holy Shitballs
Yeah, I also got choked up at certain parts...