Well, it seems I'm at 3/4 now. No point in running from it then.

**Unvote

Vote Lynch: Pyrofrost**

@Wooden_Giraffe:

Your other scenario has the mafia being Gooner/Havardy, but Gooner voted Harvady on D1 and was the one pressuring you to hammer the most.

His wording doesn't suggest assurance on Havardy on his part though:

@Stereo:

i'm pretty content on it being Gooner and one other. If I had to guess his partner, assuming its not Pyro, given the above, its possibly Havady, since Gooner started a wagon, couldn't back it up (at least with any logical reason - as I said inactivity would've worked better), it failed to gather momentum, then Havady comes to generate more input and try and foster buy in without actually lynching me himself.

I'm not at all confident on the havady piece, Gooner's plan was fine, he just tried to start a wagon with poor reasoning and not enough inactivity to hide behind (and therefore not enough momentum). If he had never played before, I'd say ok, but was led to believe he had played plenty.

I sleep now, GN.

It suggests that he is taking a shot in the dark because he is kinda suspicious.

I'm suspicious of him as well though. Last game, Harvady was assertive and proactive as hell. This game he is being lazy as hell. I don't understand a reason for that, and it only makes me suspicious.

@Harvady:

I would like to ask Gooner and Pyrofrost: If Mike is Mafia, who is his partner?

Simply put, I don't know. Also, it wasn't his not wanting to rush the vote that bothered me; it was the, "I was kindly asked not to hammer" part of his statement. Also, there are no better suspects right now because people aren't talking. For Christ's sake, we went over 24 hours into the day before people besides Gooner and I started talking. Did everyone need a grief period to get over the IceQueen's untimely death?!

@Stereo:

I was requested not to rush the end of the day phase, so I didn't simple.

That's what doesn't make sense!

The you were requested part. I don't see a request posted anywhere in this thread, that's for sure. If you wouldn't have stated yesterday, "I was kindly asked not to hammer," then I honestly wouldn't suspect you. If your wagon on me goes anywhere though, I will kindly switch my vote if you get me to L-1.
I'm at 1/4 right now….get me to 3/4 and I will make it 4/4. Good luck!

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Hmmm, well, I found the post and I am satisfied.

@Bogart:

I would appreciate Town not hammering until we absolutely must. Galaxy and Harvady, do you two have anything major left to say before the day ends? We need to hurry.

Unvote: Stereo Mike please

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Lynch Vote: Gooner

Right now it makes as much sense as anyone else. If I found the post corroborating his story, I know you could have.

@Stereo:

Vote: Lynch Pyrofrost.

Whichever you guys decide you get a mafia. Either you get me dead as normal townie and then Pyro and prob Gooner next phases. Or you lynch Pyro and get him anyway.

fact he knows im away in the city and leads a wagon on me at that time convinces me he is mafia, Gooner following up suggests its both of them trying to force a wagon on someone he suspected wouldn't be online.

Have you not been reading mate, I quoted my reason for lynching you and it had nothing to do with you're inactivity, but what you said.

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Here is a link provided for your convenience to my vote post, read the quote in it bro: http://apforums.net/showthread.php?t=32935&page=537&p=2886339&viewfull=1#post2886339

@Harvady:

Exactly 24 hours after day start.

Seriously?

Purely coincidence, I actually just woke up.

I will ask one question of every player besides Gooner though.

Why are we over 24 hours into the day phase before people start talking? We all signed up to play, confirmed our roles, and posted in the last day phase…I don't get it.

WHY IS NOBODY POSTING**?!**

That said, I agree with Gooner. We had a guy at L-1 and Stereo Mike failed to drop the final vote, with this as a reason:
@Stereo:

My only reason for not voting is its the final vote and was kindly asked not to hammer.

lolwut!

Lynch Vote: Stereo Mike

Just here to say hello.

@Wooden_Giraffe:

There was never a wagon on you, it was on Galaxy.

Just to answer your statement from yesterday, I know there was not a wagon on me yesterday. If you had kept up with the conversation, then you would know that I was talking about Myself last game D-1 vs. Harvady this game D-1. It was simply a comparison, that is all.

@Bogart:

"Random" is defined as being without definite aim, direction, rule, or method. All voting has an aim. Even if a random vote was your aim, you still had a reason to do so, right? Then it's not random. You're thinking in terms of probability- which you've already clarified. But getting defensive isn't going to convince anyone to cooperate with you, and at this point I'm not convinced you will accomplish more with your discussion than with powers, as you claimed.

I see you're point, and I'll conceed. There is no point of a continual back and forth for the sake of splitting hairs. I'll admit that I went a bit to far concerning this with Ice, and I apologize.

My point on favoritism, which Ice basically admitted to, still stands. However, there was no reason for her to colour it up with pretty words. If she wants to give Harvady preferential treatment, that's all good and fine. That's her prerogative. My point was just to call it what it is, without beating around the bush.
(This is where the idiom, "call a spade, a spade" comes from. It just means to be honest and direct, to not beat around the bush.) Considering that Ice was justifying the lynch wagon on me, while opposing the wagon on Harvady for doing the same thing with this statement; "It's a reputation thing. It isn't fair or logical, but it is understandable." I don't feel that I was asking too much, and I don't feel that I went too far.

Also, this is a spade

Sorry I missed your post IceQueen, here is my reply

@Mrs.:

"Based on reasoning and arguments" is not the same as "random". I'll agree that lynching someone a gamble, but it's never a random gamble. But now we're discussing semantics.

You ask for an answer and criticize me for it, you welcome Mrs.

The fact that lynches are based of half-assed assumptions and suspicions….oh excuse me, I mean "reasoning and argument" psht. Good lord.
You want to know what's petty? You asking for clarification on my view, then criticizing and acting like what goes on in the day phase is something more grandiose.

@Mrs.:

Which is not very likely. A chance of 2 out of 9.

Which still means, as likely as anyone else.

@Mrs.:

It's a reputation thing. It isn't fair or logical, but it is understandable.

Now, time is running out. Those who haven't voted yet, please do.

Lets call a spade, a spade Mrs. and I was alluding to this in my reply to Harvady; it's called playing favorites, favoritism, preferential treatment, partiality, bias, etc, etc, etc. No need to sugar coat it.

@Harvady:

Nobody wanted to be town leader? After all that leeway?

Pyrofrost: Galaxy could very well be lynched for voting of all things. Did you want a lynch today? Are you voting me solely because I haven't spoken? Does this mean you'll change wagons?

I think it's a load of BS, however I can see how some of the players (yes, it is plural) here work now; and I believe I've seen enough. Also, my vote stays, even though I'm almost 100% certain the will wagon follow you.