Can you plese use the quote system?
@Gaiyae:
Your just speculating.. I get the feeling that you 2 want it this way, just because you like Zoro so much.. I want FACTS.. things that you dont seem to give..
WTF?:wassat: We are giving you facts stright from the manga and character guides. I am not a fan of Zoro nor Luffy, just pointing out the obvious.
Agreed, but it still is used in combat… Same goes for smarts. Your talking like it's impossible to outsmart anyone in OP because strenght cant be overcome by brawn in OP (like nami did with Califa) . That was never stated.. And if nami was so strong... how can she couldn't move as fast as Califa? Strength had to do with every fighting ability right? Where talking about ODA here, not Akira Toriyama.How the HELL do you know, it was NEVER stated. Quit making FACTS out of thin air. I think you keep confusing OP with some anime made by Akira Toriyama. Oda never stated that STRENGTH was everything. HE NEVER DID, and unless its proven otherwise.. you cant come up with those fake facts of yours.
Are you watching or reading One Piece with your eye's closed? Strength is usually everything in Luffy and Zoro's battles! Don't try and compare Nami or Ussopp's battles and dreams with Zoro's or Luffy's. Your trying to fit a square into a circle. BTW Akira Toriyama is "GOD" in Oda Eiichiro's eye's, hell in many manga writers eye's. He did change the manga genre!!!!!
So your telling.. that lets say Usopp battles von Auger.. that he may have a tough battle. But when Zoro would battle von Auger, he'd kill von Auger in one hit, or it would be a really easy match for him.. Somehow i doubt that. Or else ODA wouldnt constantly put people of the same type against each other. Like Swordsmen vs Zorro, Marshal artist vs Sanji etc. Or maybe nami and Usopp should just leave battle next time ..going with your theory, they don't even have to fight. Since Zoro probably would kill Usopp and Nami's enemy's with one hit because of his "powerlevel"
Luffy was holding back against Ussop, all the DEXTERITY in the world could not save Ussop from a beat down. The same would be with Zoro he would kill Ussop easily.
Yes, of course.. now i get it. Enel used his first form, and he later powered up into Final form Freez… uhh i mean Enel. Your pulling those facts out of nothing..
Listen, what he is saying is if Luffy was NOT rubber he would end up like Zoro.
@Wolfwood:
and thats kinda what i was getting on a couple of pages back albeit a little less aggresivly that we dont know that the rating Strength=fighting ability which is why i find it pretty amusing how OIP is riding about on his high horses preaching what he belives to be facts and putting down anyone who disagrees with his interpertation of the chart.
but like what someone else already said a while back its not like one side is just gonna back down so this is getting kinda pointless.
Strength in anime/manga is OVERALL power!!! Look at Whitebeard's STRONGEST man in the World title!!! Or when people like Freeza state that they are the STRONGEST in the universe it means just that OVERALL power.