Posts made by NamiRobinFrankyAce

@electricmastro:

Indeed. He had it in mind even back when Oda drew Chapter 19 back in 1997.

https://i.ibb.co/9b0f3zn/6-CDB6-A76-F2-F3-4-B55-A937-B186-E467-A083.png

So Oda knew that,and made Buggy ruin Roger's hat anyway (when he first fought with Luffy). Heavy.

Jesus Christ this forum is more fanboyish than i remembered! Yes,its great that Oda loses times with chapters devoted to great characters like King Baum,Hyogoro and Pound. Really awesome! sarcasm

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@electricmastro:

Not sure if this was a greatly appropriate place to mention this, but I found this interesting in light of the debut of Yamato:

“I finished reading Glass Mask, so now I’m reading Rose of Versailles. Oscar was a woman?!” - https://www.viz.com/blog/posts/mangaka-musings-06-09-19

Yeah we talked about it at the time he made such declaration,i made a theory that he would have introduced a character similar to Oscar,and then….Yamato happened! By the way i think Oda did read Rose of Versailles also because of the French Revolution,probably the Revolutionary Army will share some elements with the French revolutionaries. Greg agrees with this theory.

First of all Yamato is not a transgender. O-Kiku is a transgender,Yamato is just a Oden fan-girl. Second,if Yamato joins i think Sanji wont be too "pervert" around her,because altough Yamato is a girl she is still a tom-boy,and Sanji usually acts more "pervert" with women who are more feminine,so i think he and Brook might act as perverts once or twice but then they will do it more just with Nami and Robin. Now that i think about it,recently its just Nami that gets the pervert actions of Sanji and Brook,Robin not so much in recent times. By the way,altough i know that Oda is a good person and that he respects diversity,dont look at him like a "politically correct" person,this attitude belongs more to western stories that japanese stories. They dont really care about all of this. Just think about when Sanji gets scandalized because the okama gave him blood in Fishman Island…yeah,not really politically correct,right? But thats ok of course Oda meant well he didnt want to offend anyone.

@Deicide:

My take on it is that Oda is referencing an established structure and thus will keep it close to it. It’s like if Oda were to make a character recite a haiku: he wouldn’t change the basic haiku structure, or the reference is lost.

If kabuki theater typically has 5 acts, Oda will keep it 5 acts in Wano. Or else, why make it seem like a kabuki play at all?

The truth is they dont typically have 5 acts. There are plays with 3 acts,and there even plays with 31 acts! (yes you've read it well)

I agree with Greg on the fact that its not certain that we will get 5 acts,altough people still keep giving it for granted,and also about the fact that Oda might never answer on the mistery of Crocodile in the series. It could be material for spin-offs or interviews made years later Toriyama-style. By the way Crocodile and Doflamingo are some of my favourite characters in the series,and are some of the best villains. Some people thinks that if Croco and Dofla were the Yonkou instead of Kaido and Big Mom the series would have been even more interesting. Considering how Kaido and Big Mom are a little disappointing as characters for me at the moment (yes,yes,lets wait for the Rocks flashback,but right now i'm not liking them at the same level of Croco,Dofla,and other OP villains of the past) that would have been very cool indeed!

@LightningAce:

Oda doesn't need to apologize for anything. If he's ill, he needs to take care of himself. His well being is the most important thing for us all.

I think you misunderstood the sense of the way he will apologize. Thats Japan work ethic. He is not apologizing with the tone "sorry i commited a crime" he will just say he is sorry for the disservice he did to the readers. By the way i have to say that i find the rethoric "we only care about Oda's health" (like he was a family member or a friend) a little hypocrite. Oda knows what to do with his life,if he wanted to end the manga and living a healthier lifestyle,he could anytime he wants,Shueisha wouldnt stop him i think (they just want it to be comunicated around a year in advance) but as long as he wants to continue with the manga,its his choice and we cant be angry with the fans who just wants to read the manga

Another character that i am noticing is very loved is Bonney. When it will arrive her moment,i think she will do great. Now its X-Drake turn,and i think he will be very succesful too,while i dont think Hawkins and Apoo are very loved by the general audience,but maybe i'm wrong.

So do you really believe Oda just spoiled us when Luffy will find the One Piece,and what will happen after that? Nah i dont buy it. My interpretation of his words is like the one Artur wrote in his website,so basically the story ends with Luffy finding the One Piece,and of course we will see the aftermath but it will be something shorter than a final war,which will happen before Luffy finds the One Piece. Yeah i remember what Whitebeard said,but he could be wrong about a war happening after the discovery of the One Piece. So basically the manga will still end in 5 years according to Oda.

I think Kaido will get a flashback but the Acts will be only 3. There is no way that the Alliance lose this battle and all the most important members comes out of it alive without Kaido and Big Mom resulting as complete fools.

Ace drawn by Boichi awesome

The main point people should take from Oda's words is not the 5 years thing,but the indication that we are in the final arc of the series. Even if he takes 7 or 8 years instead of 5 to end the manga,what Oda is saying is that we are in the final stage of the story

@Claudio:

How cute that you think you represent the general audience.

Well i am not a Rebecca hater but its pretty well know that she is not very loved by the fans to say the least

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@Vongola_Boss_XI:

Not sure why some people _wan_t the manga to end quickly. I guess to be proven right. 'I'd rather be unhappily proven right than happily proven wrong!' lol

Anyway, I still don't believe it. He only gives the answer because he's asked. It's not like he makes the announcement of his own volition. And at this point, it's a stock answer, and I still don't believe it. It's not even about the 'Oda's never right about his estimates' thing. Even if Oda just throws every remaining storyline together into a single arc following Wano and cuts a bunch of things, I really don't believe he could end it that quickly.

He will keep saying it until you guys finally accept it. We are close to the end,thats the main point. Then he will probably take 7 years instead of 5 to end the manga but the point is that the manga is close to the end.

@JohnTnaig:

There is no point in having act 4 and act 5. This should be the last act.

Agree. But the fanboys brigade is always very dogmatic and they dont have an open mind. So of course they attacked you. I am getting tired of the climate of this site. So snubby,fanboyish and dogmatic. No space for thinking out of the box.

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@Robby:

Because he's tired.

Its an incredibly taxing job that eats all your time and energy 7 days a week and drains you. you can never escape it because you always have to be thinking about next week, and its super hard and doing it every single week for decades crushes you down eventually. . Doesn't matter how much you love it or how good you are at it, its exhausting and stressful, and Oda's increased breaks over the years are a sure sign of that, I'm sure he wants to take a vacation longer than a week at some point. He hasn't had a solid month off since the timeskip. More breaks yes, but no lengthy dedicated stop.

Hayao Miyazaki retires after every movie he does now, because he goes "That was a long stretch of hard work and I'm drained, that's all I had in me." Then he breaks, gets new ideas, and refreshes himself.

Making comics is a younger person's career generally. I've been doing it for 21 years myself and it's just… what you're doing at 40 isn't the same as what you're doing at 20, and I haven't been doing anything nearly as hard as what Oda is doing and I get to switch projects regularly. To be locked into the same story that entire time? Even if it is your life's work opus, that's just a long time to do the same thing. No one should be on the same creative endeavor for more than a decade, you change too much in the meantime and sit on ideas too long and it loses something. It's probably the main reason the crew gets pushed to the side so much and new characters get fights regularly for a while now, new characters are much more fun and interesting to draw than the ones you've done 100,000 times.

Wano is a super clear example... Oda clearly wanted to do a story of 9 samurai avenging their master... but it had to still be in One Piece, so that story instead of being a contained 2-3 volume epic of its own, is saddled into the OP world as a B-plot and ultimately has to be sidelined so Luffy can fight Kaido.

Oda does things to keep stuff fresh and makes every island different and varied to entertain himself, but I'm sure he'd love to just do a 1 volume story with only a handful of characters or design video games or make a movie or just anything else with a looser deadline.

Just imagine if Toriyama had been locked into Doctor Slump for 20 years, we'd never have gotten Dragonball! Look at all the short stories he did after Dragonball that present new ideas and gags and are fun and interesting and different.

Thats an underated comment you perfectly understood the reason why the Strawhats got sidelined sadly

@Spinx:

Can Luffy do something instead of just commenting ?
987 - "We're here to not just kick Kaido but Big Mom and Orochi too. And all you motherfuckers supporting them!
988 - oh my God, Shinobu! Oh my God, Sanji! Oh my God, Big Mom! Oh my God end of the chapter!

Usually Oda traps Luffy in something when he doesnt want to use him,like when he was inside the snake in Skypea or when he was stuck between the two palaces in Water 7,or when he was running towards Moria in Thriller Bark. This time Oda didnt really knew what to invent for him. But thats good,i like him being there even if he just comments. Better than some filler stuff.

@Gia:

If the manga offends your expectations, you might as well not read it

Oh come on! Thats the lamest answer ever

@Cockycent:

It's social, not political. Especially when I see a trend of people speaking on the behalf of groups that they don't belong to. I can't tell a Korean person what's offensive or what belittles them. That is because i'm not Korean. This reminds me of the guy in the store screaming "you won't make me wear a mask. I have rights".

Your comment is actually very political

@Monquito:

Is possible, we didn't see much of Oden dancing around places and by that time Yamato was a free child rooming Wano.
EDIT; also, isn't a bit weird that during Oden's dance off, he was hated by most Wano-kunians, but Yamato was in love with the guy already, so interaction between both of them might have actually happened.
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The main issue was Hancock, most people were convinced Hancock was going to join(cause she was going to die if Luffy left her, lmao).

So every other argument against Jinbro during Fishmen Island(by the time Hancock was left behind and did not die, extra lmao), really was mostly a baby crying attitude from being wrong.

I quote everything but i am actually going to refer just to the part when you say Yamato admired Oden already during the 5 years of humiliation. We really dont know that. She might have started to love him when she saw his execution.
(And there is also my crazy theory that Oden soul lives in her now but thats another thing).

Brazil is fine dont believe to everything the media tells you
(End of OT)

Another absurd theory,like always from me. But hey,i like to dream big!
We know that Oda is using many japanese legends in this arc: like Gyukimaru who is a fox,and the demon of rage changing Denjiro's face.
Now,is there maybe a Japanese legend where the soul of a dead man possesses the body of someone alive? What if Yamato was a totally different person before she saw Oden's execution,but then Oden's soul got inside her body,and now she hosts him? So there is more than just admiration for Oden in Yamato,she is actually really partially him! And maybe Oden's soul will leave her body at the end of the arc,because its purpose on the Earth is accomplished now,and he can rest in peace (if such legends exist,maybe thats the meaning of the legend )

@Dylcor:

Yamato has only been referred to as “he” by other characters so far. He said he “became a man”. I really cannot understand not calling him by male pronouns. And saying that there’s always Ivankov to clear things up…. Trans people do not need to fully transition for you to respect their pronouns. There doesn’t need to be that physical change for you to decide “ah ok he really is a man now”. Also I think it’s silly to say oda “dropped the ball” with yamato when he’s been in the series for less than 5 chapters.

Thats not entirely true. She used terms that often women in Japan uses when they want to appear "tomboyish" but not necessarily males. Also when Luffy says "Yamao" she corrects him telling to call her Yamato.

I am more worried about the scripts honestly. I dont know if these Hollywood writers can really understand One Piece philosophy and shonen mangas philosophy in general. I think One Piece is a manga that is very far away from the current Hollywood standards and philosophy. So we'll see,but thats the thing i am more worried about,than the casting or the special effects.

I can totally see why the editor cried. With the last scene i didnt cry,but i found it very emotional anyway! By the way i have read somewhere on the web that next week Jump comes out a day later than usual in Japan,so we will get the spoilers on Friday and not on Thursday. Dont know if thats true though.

When we first heard about Wano,we thought that arc would have been almost like a self-contained story,because we knew it was an isiolationist country. Until we heard about Kaido ruling it,we thought at Wano like this. But Oda managed to surprise us and created a Wano arc with Kaido,Big Mom,some Whitebeards commanders like Marco and Izo,and in future probably some of the Marines (we already got Cp0 and Sword by the way). And maybe some other people like Moria or Blackbeard could be involved. So the same things applies for other arcs like Elbaf. Even if we spend 100 chapters on Elbaf,i am sure it will be a pivotal arc with big players from the outside world involved,and there will be pivotal revelations about the main story.

Being inside Oda's office with all his notes about the story,its the real life equivalent of being in Laugh Tale

He meant he was crying for the awesomeness of the chapter and i can totally see it! It was a great chapter

@joekido:

Before they even go to Laugh Tale, they need to visit 4 islands surrounding it. There is still so much plot threads that needs to be addressed before he ends the series. There are still islands that needs to be visited like Elubaf or Emerald city. When they say things like this basing on what they had stated in the past, I find this hard to believe now. It could be another 20 years; more or less before Oda finishes it.

Right now something just happened to Alabasta and Sabo. How the characters would react to it or what they are going to do about it. Here are list of plot threads that needs to be answered:

• Who is "that" person? Is it the pirate Shanks warn of or does this guy has an eyepatch?

• Edward Weevil

• Role of the Straw Hat Fleet

• Remains of the Rocks pirate

• Joy Boy, what did he do, who is he. The Will of D. The Great Kingdom and why the World Government hates it to tear it down and how they did it.

• Im and this "light to be erased" they brought up.

• Vegapunk, his Devil Fruit explanation and the role of the SSG.

• Buggy's role

• Kuma's backstory.

• Blackbeard and his full crew, his backstory and Pirate's Island

• Role of Aokiji

• Role of Bonny

• Uranus and Pluton

• Destruction of Fishman Island

• Origin of the World Government and the Kingdoms that forms it.

• Elubaf

• Emerald City.

• Eneru.

• More islands to visit.

• Shank's crew, his role and his backstory.

• Vinsmoke's family fate.

• Green Bull's role.

• Kaidou's backstory

• What did Zunisha do that got him to walk the seas and where is he's going.

• The Great Kingdom, it's backstory and it's ideals.

• The final red poneglyph.

• The role of the Revolutionary. Dragon has yet to meet Luffy.

• What is hidden in Laugh Tale. The great power Oden mentioned.

• The upcoming massive war.

• The egg on Gol Roger's ship.

• Vivi and Sabo's fate.

So much more to cover that could take longer then five years.

80% of this can be answered during this Wano/Reverie combo arc. Somethings like Eneru or Emerald City will never be developed imho

@Gia:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but hes only made the 80% comment and "would like to finish in 5 years" comment once each. Other times have been regurgitated and parroted by his editorial staff or Jump, which honestly came off as a promotional stunt. For example, last time 5 years was used, it was done to hype Wano, that Wano will connect to the end and we will understand how. We already got past the Oden flashback, and unless there's some other major point, it was pretty clear that the Roger stuff was what the Editor was talking about. In the end, all it told us was "Laugh Tale" and something super ominous about One Piece, that made Roger and everyone laugh (I dont think it was honestly that funny, because Roger clearly seemed helpless about being "born at the wrong time". Rayleigh way back even mentioned they were "too hasty"

Oda has never really doubled down on those comments. He mentioned percentage once, and he mentioned he would "like" to finish in a specific time frame, once. Nothing consistent about it.

Remember also the "5 years? If Oda keeps going on this rhytm,even less time!" comment that one editor gave to the italian youtuber Sommobuta back in December 2019

Yeah the 5 years plan ultimately will become the 7 years plan,but thats it. I cant see One Piece going beyond the 30th anniversary. But maybe Shueisha will want to do two special years instead of one. One special year for the 30th anniversary and one special year for the ending. So ok,2028
By the way i still think that Wano will give us more answers than we can even dream right now. And this will make us realize that when Oda says "the story is at 80% and more" he really means it! This Reverie/Wano combo will give us a lot of "endgame material" stuff,between Ponieglyps,Yonkou,Revolutionaries,Vegapunk,Judge,Moria,etc. all of them will be in this arc

Something to consider is that Wano will give us the answers to many mysteries,even some mysteries we think as "endgame ones" will actually be answered in this arc.

@Gia:

Weird take because Oda just introduced 4 RA commanders so to say he doesn't care (not you, the youtuber), is weird. The rest of his comments are not shown because the characters still have stories to tell and relevancy. The battles at the Reverie were skipped just as the battles at Marineford were: Hes not going to waste surprise and effort on characters that still will have relevancy in the future. He'd rather surprise you when it is relevant to show off major fights like this.

To say Oda doesnt care is weird, he wouldn't introduce the concepts if he didn't. He wouldn't tease it if he didn't.

Yeah i agree about the Revolutionary Army. They are clearly important so that Youtuber was wrong in saying that Oda doesnt care about them. But about other things i think he may be right. I am starting to think some "little misteries" will never be resolved or just resolved in SBS like Crocodile's secret or how Shanks and Mihawk met each other for example

I recently saw a Youtube video in which the author of the video was suggesting (I dont necessarily agree with him,but i think what he was suggesting was interesting) that some things we "give for granted" Oda will explore,he actually doesnt care about them. For example,he was suggesting that Oda isnt planning to explore the Revolutionary Army so much,because when he had the chance (the Reverie) he off-screened their battle in Marejoa. So altough we give for granted we will have an entire arc devoted to the Revolutionary Army or a Dragon flashback,this might not be the case. And maybe Oda isnt even planning to tell us how Mihawk became the strongest swordsman in the world,or what Crocodile secret is. Basically according to this Youtuber Oda only cares about Luffy's adventure and he wont show us anything else. He also thinks Enel will never come back because he is actually the only villain who obtained what he wanted,so he has no reason to come back. I actually disagree with most of the things i reported here,but i did it because for the first time i thought: what if its true that we as fandom are giving too many things for "granted"? What we think it will be important it wont actually be important in Oda's plans at all. Maybe Vegapunk wont have a sad flashback,maybe we wont see Shanks and Mihawk when they were young,etc.

Oda and his editors are telling in many ways that we're close to the final arc (In Oda's interviews,in editors interviews with foreigner youtubers,in magazines like this one,and in the story itself! What are the "Reverie" chapters between the Wano acts,if not a glimpse of the final arc?) but some people just dont want to listen. So they will keep repeating it by the way i think that after Wano ends,it will be clear to everyone that all the things that remains are endgame material. It will be a long final arc,with different islands like the Baroque Works arc or the Yonkou arc,but it will be the final one indeed. So there will be time for Elbaf or even the Moon,dont worry.

@LightningAce:

Have a bit of patience.
They will be here.

Its hard after all these breaks. Also,today i had a not very busy morning so i had too much free time to think about the spoilers lol

No spoilers :sad: thats not good

Nothing wrong with reading them

Uhm okay lol

Korean guy,please forgive the people who attacked you,and bless us with some spoilers today

@LordButler:

Is it weird that when I first saw Law in the manga that all I could think about was how he looked and acted so much like Trent Lane from Daria?

He was very different pre-timeskip though. He seemed more a "chill guy" while in the post-timeskip he became a "dark and serious guy"

I loved Punk Hazard too. Very underated arc. Also it wasnt too long lol by the way Act 3 of Wano is hands down the best Act of the arc so far. Almost all great chapters with big twists!

This should probably go to "dumb predictions",but about the thing from the next two chapters that made the editor cry: O-Toki is still alive and she trasported herself to the moment when she will save Momo from Kaido.

The post-ending Oda's interviews will be something amazing. At that point he will be allowed to reveal a lot of stuff behind the writing procession,when and how he planned certain things,all the times he tried to do foreshadowings,plans for storylines or characters that later were scrapped,etc. it will be funny everytime he will release an interview.

Water 7/Enies Lobby will probably remain always the best thing of the entire series. Probably not even the ending will reach the same level of quality. Oda was simply in a state of grace during that period. He didnt make one mistake one,every vignette was great. And its not just nostalgia,maybe thats a factor too,but everytime i re-read or re-watch that arc i always apprecciate every aspect of it. Its just his masterpiece.

Hope it isnt just a classic way to hype things and something big will actually happen. And i also hope that after this break we come back to the regular schedule,because i am tired of these breaks.

For Yamato the Oden's journal is like a bible. But is there written what the One Piece is and where it is? Because in that case,considering that Luffy wants to live his adventure without knowing anything in advance,he would never take Yamato with her if she already knows everything. But i dont think in Oden's journal there is written what the One Piece is. And maybe there isnt written even where it is! Or maybe there is written everything,we'll see

Annet Mahendru as Nico Robin would be a perfect casting but it was downvoted as hell in that website. Not good

@Claudio:

It would be best if the spoilers came out just one day before the official release. :ninja:

Nah i liked the Monday spoilers. Also,when i first started to follow them,around 2008,they were coming out around Monday/Tuesday as well

Hopefully the anti-spoiler people of that korean blog didnt deprive us of the Monday spoilers :sad:

@Kaoru:

I think she could pull it off

Good scene,altough i still have some doubts (but i will probably have doubts for all the characters until i will watch the first episode,to be honest haha). We'll see if she is the one they hired and how she will go.

Emily Rudd is a good actress (she was good in The Romanoffs,a brilliant series that sadly only me and other 2 people watched lol) but i think her face is "too softly and cute". Nami is beautiful but she have also charisma,and knows how to do seductive looks when she needs to fool someone to steal something. She can also show rudeness when necessary. I dont know if Emily Rudd can do that. In The Romanoffs she played a smart and wise girl that was also sweet. A different character from Nami so i dont know.

@Greg:

Lol
Guilty as charged.

Between my health problem, normal OP work and… 'other'.... OP work, been extraordinarily tough to sit down and vomit text.

But to keep it on point, I wouldn't count out interesting twists when it comes to this topic.

Also...knowing what I know about the anime (series and film) production, the less I say, the better. For now.

Other OP work means….you are involved in the live action series?? (just a guess lol)