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Posts made by Myu
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RE: Toriko
@Fire Fist:
It's a Senzu Bean.
Don't do it.
Anyhow maybe not by chapters pace but i love Toriko's general going. It is and it is going to be an awesome serie. I think i like it more than One Piece.
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RE: Things That You Would Like to See in the Manga
luffy vs shanks as the final battle
There is this inevitable thing: Blackbeard beats Shanks!
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RE: Things That You Would Like to See in the Manga
I would like to see Zoro as a puncher or a kicker. Oda is pumping him with all the training and body strength and the durability he has but we never get to see him use that power.
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RE: Chapter 639: "I`ll protect all" -Discussion
It is safe to assumew Hyouzou was stronger pre-transformation than Hody. Zoro owned Hody underwater while Hyouzou was able to block Luffy's Jet Pistol.
So know they both have transformed and stilll for Hody to be acknowledged as a threat Oda had to brought the fight to underwater fight.
The facts that Hyozou being stronger than Hody and Zoro being a bit weaker than Luffy makes this a good fight. Still a warm-up though.And we don't know if they will be able to finish it. You know there is Noah on top of them.
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RE: Chapter 639: "I`ll protect all" -Discussion
By the way guys, Noah is falling down to Fishman Island. What about that?
Fishman Island getting destroyed is plausible but there seems to be no way for Strawhats to run off.
So Fishmand Island Arc's climax scene is coming. Hope Oda won't let it go to waste. -
RE: Chapter 639: "I`ll protect all" -Discussion
And no one seems to be eager about saying what number Hyouzou is over.
And all the Bleach mocking… Every one of them made me smile. I love you guys really. -
RE: Chapter 639: "I`ll protect all" -Discussion
So this means: Luffy > Zoro > Jinbe=Sanji power-wise! Hehehe just teasing. Had a fast read but nice chapter overall.
Thing with the ship was kind of a cheap trick. I mean she should have fleed elsewhere earlier.
And I'm negative with Sanji and Jinbe teaming up but there aren't much people who can endure their attacks. So it is kind of the only way for them to fight.
And Robin was extremely calm for a second she made me think she has CoO. Maybe she has, fits her well. -
RE: Toriko
I prefer Komatsu being taken out too. What will happen depends on that bird. If it is a nitro, since it has been commanded to capture #99 chef. All it is going to do is capturing him and leaving afterwards.
But if it is a GT Robo, user will most likely recognize Komatsu as Toriko's combo or Miracle Soup's finder and will capture him too. Which leaves us with a rescue arc. -
RE: Toriko
Komatsu… Have my doubts about him as character. We have seen Setsuno made shit Tommyrod's pants or it was another Bishokukai. I can't remember.
I think as a chef Komatsu too should held power. Manga-ka (don't know his name) should be thinking this too but how? It's look like for being powerful in Toriko world you have to have Gourmet Cells.
So you can evolve your body physically to gain inhuman attack and defence. And without inhuman defence nor defence you can't withstand a Capture Level 5 animal's attack.
So either Setsuno and other chiefs have this Gourmet Cells. Or there is a alternative way to gain power.
It hasn't been mentioned yet but eating all those special ingredient may effect on your cells to transform those in to Gourmet Cells. Because I don't see an alternative way to Komatsu to power up.
And as a reader I think he should be gaining some power too. Otherwise it wouldn't make sense to hype up other chefs. -
RE: Chapter 637: "The Ancient Ark"- Discussion
Why do people refuse the vulcanization though too deeply?
It's just basic facts. We have Usopp who didn't die from Enel's attacks. Just try to understand a bit and be more rubberish and flexible in mind. -
RE: Chapter 636: "The General From The Land Of The Future"
Seeing Hody still doesn't a match to Luffy, I do want to ask Oda: Why did you taint your manga with this transformation stuff?
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RE: Chapter 636: "The General From The Land Of The Future"
If Chopper learned to control his Monster Point I don't see him in the weakling trio. I don't get his being in the weakling trio in the first place actually.
When he first joined he was literally a scared child but he has been through a lot. He should have use his potential. -
RE: General 'Haki' Discussion
Haki isn't necessarily all that rare, it's implied that while everyone has it, not many people have the talent to activate it. For example, after the war, Coby said he had 'felt' everyone dying, which is Observation Haki.
Luffy has rare Haoshoku Haki, not because he's destined to, but because he wouldn't have gotten this far without it! I think Franky, Usopp, Nami, Brook, and Sanji (he doesn't have Haki) will find different ways to support their nakama against stronger enemies. It's revealed that Sanji used some of the CP9 techniques.
You should stop right where you told Sanji doesn't have Haki. Of course we are talking possibilities here and nothing is certain… But Sanji having Haki is a norm with this going of the manga.
It would be a cliffhanger if he doesn't get to use it. -
RE: Toriko
Calories are good as long as it doesn't get power level decider. I mean since you fight your body thus with your calories, more you have and more you use per attack means strength but I don't know if I want it to turn to that. I would like to see a scene Toriko getting destroyed with someone lesser calory to see things may differ and fightings have action itself. Otherwise it's going to be like Dragon Ball where an opponent says: hey my power level is this, so it doesn't matter how hard you try you can't defeat me. Which is a manga killer and isn't suited for today's Shonen.
But idea of inflicted damage being independent then used calory is acceptable. This way we can only see user's limitations and things won't get one-handed to Manga-Ka's side. Well since it's his manga we can't fight with that but as kewl said it gets irritating after one point. And we get a clue when is a character is going to be worn out this way.
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RE: Toriko
I think it might be 1,000,000 calories. Toriko's suplly was 3.500.000 last time we checked. As far as i can remember.
And in mangareader's version it says twice the leg fork, which was 500.000. -
RE: Chapter 634: "100.000 vs. 10" - Discussion
Indeed. Which does make it a little puzzling how Daz Bones wasn't cut up by Mihawk's slash, as I would like to think that even low-end stuff from Mihawk surpasses Lucci's cutting power… but I suppose not (or is it a "a truly great swordsman only cuts what he means to cut" type of deal? Like he was aiming to cut rubber, not steel?). Zoro should easily be able to do it by now at range, of course. We already saw him cutting Neptune's steel chains casually.
Wasn't Daz Bones injured after the slash? Let me check it.
Yes he was injured but since we're talking about chopping in half… We should count in Haki too in that case. Still it should have chop him in half if Lucci's have done it. -
RE: Chapter 634: "100.000 vs. 10" - Discussion
I don't want this to turn to all bloody gore. Just there are things has to happen. And this is one of these.
We shall see. I want Getsuga Tenshou. -
RE: Chapter 634: "100.000 vs. 10" - Discussion
that would be awesome, but I always find it sad that those slashes which can cut steel don't chop the people it half. :sad:
Well I haven't seen any example for a ranged slash cutting a steel. But anyway Zoro, the way he is now should be able to send slashes that cut people in half and continues to it's way.
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RE: Chapter 634: "100.000 vs. 10" - Discussion
I'd say they gonna wipe out the remaining 50k on the first page.
I'm waiting Zoro to shine in this next chapter. Most of all people in Strawhats, including Jinbe, he is the most suitable for AOE kills.
Imagine one Mihawk-like slash slashing the opponents who stands in it's way.
And i hope Sunny's new weapon won't get much screen time. I love this kind of stuff and all but in the end crewmembers matters and will fight. -
RE: Chapter 634: "100.000 vs. 10" - Discussion
But sorry, this week's chapter will come out?
Why do you think otherwise? Since it's the chapter after the double issue we might get it one day earlier.
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RE: Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
I really don't get the Grand Line. Crew traveled there and found Red Line once again. I just don't get it. Hehehehe.
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RE: Chapter 634: "100.000 vs. 10" - Discussion
Other than that although it is unlikely, we might see a Shichibukai because World Government has been informed about Strawhats and they may have wanted to eliminate them before they cause a havoc.
This or that, I think, and it might be obvious, we will have a showdown with one of the Big Guns earlier than expected. If not in this arc's end, on start of the other. After all the new marine base is there, on the otherside of the Red Line. -
RE: Chapter 634: "100.000 vs. 10" - Discussion
Ok now that I read Cnet's translation… what is the correct translation for the Zoro part? switch captain or that what he expected from his captain. I've alway trust Aohige and Cnet translation that why I'm asking.
It doesn't make that much of a difference since Zoro clearly stated he looks up to Luffy as his captain, follows him and thinks for him to keep his dignity. And threw away his pride and bowed to Mihawk. Well, sacrificied his life for him too.
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RE: General 'Haki' Discussion
Yeah but then he types crap like this and expects to be taken seriously.
I seriously doubt you guys. That was because you called me a fanboy. That was sarcasm.
What is taken to be seriously and what is not is easy to spot.
Once again, this manga so far, makes me believe Zoro's will power is not worse than Luffy's. -
RE: General 'Haki' Discussion
@Doke:
Just saying these things doesn't prove anything about Zoro having more will power than Luffy. Lifting weights doesn't mean he has great will power… Endurence, power and will power are all different things. No one is saying that Zoro is weak willed. I don't even think that he is necessarily weaker than Luffy, just different. Also the Akainu vs Croc comparison makes no sense. Lets say that Zoro had to fight Akainu in stead of Mr 1, the out come would have been different too...
Also thinking Luffy is ignorant is an interesting opinion because he notices things don't work and doesn't try them again. For example with Smoker when he met him in Alabasta for the second time he knew that he couldn't fight him so he ran away, which isn't ignorant. He knew that using water to coat his hands and legs would allow him harm Croc, which isn't ignorant. In terms of declaring himself pirate king he isn't ignorant, he's just confident. He is especially not ignorant once he Ace dies and he says he is weak, that's very self reflexive and is a moment of clarity for Luffy. He knows what he wants and goes for it, that has nothing to do with being ignorant.
Zoro lifting lifts was a something out of the blue and was out of my theme of the message. Thats why i wrote it as a minitext…
Ofcourse in Zoro's case too Akainu example would be the same but thing that i'm trying to say is, wandering around saying you're gonna be the pirate king and beat your opponent doesn't count as will power.
What happened on Amazing Lily was nothing about Luffy's inself. It was just a reality punch to the head. That point there wasn't anything to ignore. -
RE: General 'Haki' Discussion
This forum should not allow blind comments like this. No fucking one can't talk to me in a irritative way that i don't want to and with a nonsense that doesn't add a shit to conversation!
Willpower is something can't be measured. Being how strong is like that too. Zoro is stronger than Luffy and can cut his haki armored hands and legs like sticks! What up?
Of course, Luffy is building to be the Pirate King. So him standing on the top what this manga will be finished with. But up until now, in my point of view, things have been shown to us makes me believe Zoro's willpower do stands not one bit lower to Luffy's.
Luffy's determination is something coming from ignorance. And ignorance bliss. Always saying he is going to be Pirate King is nice and you have to make yourself crystal clear on that decision to achieve it. But… That is not willpower my friends. That is a bliss coming from the ignorance. Say Akainu was there instead of Croco's place. Luffy would again have say the same things but the outcome would have been different.
So i'm taking the will power as one's strength in him or herself to struggle. When Luffy had lost Ace and was in Amazon Lily, what happened to his willpower? So screaming things does not count. You can be crushed either way.Things in Impel Down was astonishing for me too I have to say. Made me admire Luffy much much more. And it makes a nice score on Luffy's board. But, again, things this manga showed us so far clearly gives me the fact Zoro doesn't stand anywhere lower to Luffy in will power.
Yeah, yeah, i know. Luffy ganabe Payeyt KiynQ… Of course Oda will make him stay on top. But again, things so far, Zoro rules when it comes to will power.And you want facts? All the suffering and pain that made Luffy unconscious, added with what Zoro endured in Thriller Bark to the point where Kuma inflicted Luffy's damage, wasn't able to knock out the person who made his fanboy. Zoro is the King alright.
And out of the blue. I was checking some old chapters. Look to the man who was ensnared by a chain. http://www.mangareader.net/103-2597-11/one-piece/chapter-490.html
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RE: General 'Haki' Discussion
Sovereign Haki… If we go by the logic only the strong willed holds this power. I want Zoro to have it too. And maybe surpass Luffy at that haki line.
I mean, why not? We all know the things Zoro have done and withstand. I actually think Zoro's will power surpasses Luffy's. But he is lacking that Haki DNA anyways so it goes kind of to waste.It should have been some kind of DNA. By DNA, i don't mean in users' cells literally. But as a some kind of gift that you can't achieve it even if you are more strong willed than CoC users.
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RE: Chapter 633: Friend or Foe
idk why everyone thinks zoro's sooo much stronger than sanji, from what I've seen the two are on an even plane, they show this through multiple competitions/simultaneous strikes, throughout the series, if sanji and zoro fought I think that would be close
oda seems to just downplay sanji so when he finally beats someone noteworthy then people will be like who the fuck is this guy
Though not a thread to discuss power levels…
Everyone agrees Luffy > Zoro > Sanji. The gap between Zoro and Luffy are almost none in my point of view. Sanji's gap between Zoro is larger than the one between Luffy and Zoro. General thoughts...I see Jinbe joining the crew. Seeing how Blackbeard pumped his crew with lvl 6 prisoners. Strawhats gotta recruit some big guns.
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RE: Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
I find Sanji's Diablo Jimbe very handful to disable AoKiji's freeze techniques. I mean if any other than Sanji fights with Akainu there will be always the probability of getting owned by freezing. Which isn't that nice in a fight's dynamic.
And my question assumed that there is going to be a fight including monster trio and admirals. So there isn't any free room. Everyone has got to fight. -
RE: Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
I wonder at the end of the series when the crew will be taking on the Admirals what is going to be match-ups? Akainu is built for Luffy.
I'm thinking Sanji will take on AoKiji because of his Diable Jambe and Zoro will take Kizaru which we have seen fought Rayleighs with his swords.
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RE: Most Disappointing Thing in One Piece
Although it hasn't happened yet, most disapointing thing for me is one day that Teach 'scum' is going to surpass Shanks.
I can't bring myself to accept such a decent, good-looking, warm-hearted man like Shanks getting killed/defeated by Blackbeard who is disgusting in every aspect.
The way he eats his food, his look, his way of talk, his actions… Everything. I don't want to see that scene. Blackbeard on top of Shanks... Laughing. -
RE: Chapter 633: Friend or Foe
But Jinbe has a big reason to stick with Luffy. Ace's last wish. Ace told him to take care of Luffy and that was kind of a testament to Jinbe. And we all know he is nothing pride. It wouldn't be out of character if he goes: "I can't forgive myself if something were to happen you while i am alive"
And as a fishman he's got background linking with Nami. He might wanna sacrifice his life from now on to heal the wounds Arlong and his crew made. I actually think if we don't get to see these two sentences from Jinbe. That would be weird. I actually think this way.I think Luffy will decide if Jinbe is going to join or not. Unless he gets stubborn with the first reason.
But there are reasons why Jinbe shouldn't join and they are very legit. We all agree that he is so powerfull to join the crew. And we all want our Monster Trio to stay solid. Unless they all surpassed Jinbe but that would be weird too. They might have been on par with him. But I don't see Sanji right now more powerfull than Jinbe.
And about Caribou… I wonder if his ability holds the power to suck Noah. Noir.
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RE: Bart Simpson Thread XI: The Movie - The Manga Adaption - The Animation
The crow came out now so Naruto won't have any defense against Sasuke's EMS but Kyuubi.
Narujesus will work soon…
We don't know if it is a one time thing yet… We even don't know if it is a MS defence system.
And I really don't think it is a one time power-up because otherwise Itachi would have acted differently. Saying thins like "shit, i activated it!" etc. -
RE: Chapter 633: Friend or Foe
I think all the fights between SHs and NFPs can be filled into a single chapter. Give Hody and Hyozou a 2 page because of the build-ups. Others gets one. So here we are.
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RE: Chapter 633: Friend or Foe
With Jinbe telling they got out early, I assume Luffy will let Jinbe fight Hody. If it happens so i hope Oda won't troll us and let Jinbe-chan beat the crap out of him!
Because I really don't wanna see anymore trolish plot holes in this arc.Great chapter by the way. Nice entrance for Luffy. Good job Oda. Well drawn. It was very touching.
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RE: Official Fishman Island Discussion
There might be some folks who announce themselves as sub-Strawhat Pirates though. Imagein Duval, Hacchi etc doing it. It is possible but i don't see Oda going with that.
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RE: Chapter 632: "I knew it" -Discussion
Hodi would beat Jinbe now without any effort. A single water shot would bring him to one knee. A second would bring to 2 knees. A third results in Jinbe lying face down and bleeding helplessly. Unless Jinbe shows off his CoA Haki, which I doubt he has. Jinbe's experience can't amount to the sheer power Hodi now has.
You should be silenced! Sorry… But things you said makes no sense. We have Akainu, who technically one shotted Ace, dealing punches to Jinbe while his DF makes Jinbe vapor. If things go as you say that would make Hody Admiral or Yonkou level. Period. And there is no way that is happenning.
In normal scenario going though. Oda might make his mind and upgrade Luffy to Admiral level then he would make Hody beat Jinbe just like that. And I don't know if we got evidence but in the Marineford Jinbe clashed with Akainu countless times. I think we can assume he atleast got CoA.
And about New Fishman Pirates and Hyozou. If they get beat by Princes I don't see anyway for them being a challange for Strawhats. Unles they get a transformation too. And they may have get one. And that can be explained as drugs killes humans but fishmen body, because it is more powerful can endure it bla bla. Whatever. 1 transformation enough and let's hope it stays what.
I want to ask one thing about this chapter. Did Hyozou fight with princes
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/32463671/5 Here. Hyozou is sleeping.
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/32463671/4 But before that scene I don't get what he is doing. It seemed like he fight too. And if he fought with them. Shouldn't they be dead already? I mean atleast one or two of them. Because as we know Hyozou has a deadly poison.
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RE: Chapter 632: "I knew it" -Discussion
Noir will definitively be the way for the fishman to quit fishman Island after it's destruction and then go to the surface. Anyway it was a nice chapter even though we still did not get to see the Straw Hat… and the fact that we have two weeks to wait for the next chapter ..
Although it won't happen I would love to see Luffy surfacing on Noah near the new Marine Base. That would be terifying for Marines.
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RE: Chapter 632: "I knew it" -Discussion
I don't really understand these morons who thinks Oda skipping fights between Princes and NFP is rushing things. Seriously… Why do you need to see this? It is totally meaningless.
If you really want to see the fight between those, wait for the anime to catch up. There will be some fighting scenes for filling. And trust me, it is not going to be any different from what Oda would have done.Oda skipping these unnecesary scenes is a pro for him. This way story progress more rapidly and quality of 1 One Piece chapter increases.
But Jinbe's scene is different. A powerfull warrior like Jinbe's getting caught needs to be explained. Because otherwise it seems like fail on Oda's part.
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RE: Chapter 632: "I knew it" -Discussion
When the NFP take the ES drug, it puts their level of strength higher than that of the sea beasts.
And I will agree that the fact that the princes were outnumbered by them is also a key to their loss.When they take the ES drug it makes them only 2 times stronger. If we put it the numbers. If Dosun has 100 brutal strength energy an ES will make it 200.
Since he was exhausted before he took the ES and break the chains. We should also assume ES restores one to it normal self and doubles that strength.So now you are telling me Jinbe isn't two times stronger than Dosun's brutal power level.
This chain thing is fail.
And about Fishman Island. Fishman Island being only 10.000 meters under the surface should be wrong. We shouldn't have take into account of chapters' titles.
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RE: Chapter 632: "I knew it" -Discussion
When the NFP take the ES drug, it puts their level of strength higher than that of the sea beasts.
And I will agree that the fact that the princes were outnumbered by them is also a key to their loss.When they take the ES drug it makes them only 2 times stronger. If we put it the numbers. If Dosun has 100 brutal strength energy an ES will make it 200.
Since he was exhausted before he took the ES and break the chains. We should also assume ES restores one to it normal self and doubles that strength.So now you are telling me Jinbe isn't two times stronger than Dosun's brutal power level.
This chain thing is fail.
And about Fishman Island. Fishman Island being only 10.000 meters under the surface should be wrong. We shouldn't have take into account of chapters' titles.
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RE: Chapter 632: "I knew it" -Discussion
But what the NFP use is a false strength, to paraphrase Neptune. It's supposed to be sorta a cheap trick, which is probably the main reason why the Princes lost. People fighting nobly don't always come out on top.
All we really have is our best guesses and theories on how strong people are because we haven't seen a fully fleshed out fight this arc. Just tidbits here and there. And then we see someone bruised up and chained down. Maybe the fishmen use a different material for chains? Maybe Jinbe and Zoro don't work on their lats enough to flex and break thick chains?
I was talking to myself like this until Dosun.
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RE: Chapter 632: "I knew it" -Discussion
How hilarious that you base a character's power on brute strength, instead of skill and techniques.
There aren't any bruises. And Princes were outnumbered by NFP. And yet they still have won. There isn't a single reason for us not to assume every Prince atleast have as much as brute strength as Dosun's.
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RE: Chapter 632: "I knew it" -Discussion
OK, stop right there. This is shit!
It was a great chapter and all but I really am freaking out with this FUCKING CHAINS. What kind of a logic is that? A paralyzing poison which belongs only to Fishman… It isn't that hard to add to story.
But chains? How come a chain can hold Jinbe and Zoro.Let's think about it. We all know the princess won against NFP without Hordy. And maybe Hyozo too since he is sleeping. So Princes are stronger than drugged NFP.
So this means 3 princes have more brute strength then Dosun which broke free from chains. And we shouldn't argue that Jinbe is stronger than the princes.
SO HOW COME HE AND ZORO CANNOT BREAK FREE FROM CHAINS? Seriously...And then that ship... Half the size of Fishman Island. Which should be larger than 150 kilometers. I don't wanna talk anymore. Really. I'm broken.
Other than that it was a nice chapter. Sad that we won't get one next week. -
RE: Chapter 631: "Gyoncord Plaza" -Discussion
Decken's possible destroying the island plan can pretty much change the court of the scene. We might not see the outcome of the Jinbe vs Hody.
So when will Oda interrupt with Decken is unknown. He might wait until the all fights over to add it more tension while making us see the fights.And that way everything would be accomplished for fishmen. NFP are dead and they are on the surface. What the citizen of Fishman Island wants.
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RE: Chapter 631: "Gyoncord Plaza" -Discussion
And it is a great chapter. It has all the vibes in it. I loved it how Oda is doing his work again. Story of Fishman Island without any intruders, yet…
Scenes with princes and soldiers were great and pretty satisfying. Well of course i would love to get some but, this is all we can get. -
RE: Chapter 631: "Gyoncord Plaza" -Discussion
One question, when did we get any picture of "Bronze"? or hints of his aspect? I only remember people talking about his name.
Guy that posted, dood with glasses that I think is Bronze, are we sure thats him?(I think it is), well he would have to have white hair since he is an old man now, so yeah it might be him.
Gol D Roger > Gold Roger, Captain of the crew, strongest
Silvers Rayleigh, second strongest
Bronze Whatever, third strongestYou get this right? Then we should be trying to figure out who is Bronze by looking at the scene with Roger Pirates. And the pirate who has most powerful look on him is that guy Dryish shared.
Which makes him Bronze. -
RE: Chapter 630: Lashing Out
As we know this was a chapter made to prepare battles, story etcetera. Chapter isn't good on his own but it is an usual thing Oda does.
Nothing to talk about. But there is one thing that bothers me. Zoro getting captured and staying that way via chains. It is a major fail. I can't and won't accept it.
Zoro should be able to chew those things. We are talking about Zoro here. Just because he is a swordsman he cannot be brought down to an ordinary human being when doesn't have his swords.In Luffy's case I thought: there is no need for Luffy to escape from those and Luffy knows it too. But Zoro right now is in a life threatening situation. How come some stupid chains can overpower and stop him? And we all know Zoro's physical strength is beyond human limits. And this information come from the scenes before the time skip.
When he drowned and get captured, I was ok with it saying myself: OK, Oda does his limits. No oxygen it is over. But not being able to escape after getting conscious is big fail on Oda's part.
And please Oda, don't make Hodi have a power up by screaming. Don't. Are you being ironic this whole arc?