Posts made by Malice

HAMMER! Throws rocks

@metteminne:

nectar , from where is your avatar anyway?

and we need more information now , haba is too quiet and isnt cleared

I'm curious about Nectar's avatar too.

Yep, Mr. Haba's been awfully quite, like when he was the leader of the cult. Although, the thought of him being a doctor or someone really important scares me…

@Holygamer99:

I'd just rather not lose two people, and only lose one if it meant we could get more insight into who the last mobster might be. I guess this could speed it up, but it seems a little rushed to me. I guess that's what we get for doing this at the last minute (again).

That's true, but if the MVP (hopefully a townie will get it) goes back with a clear report, we're pretty much back to this phase tomorrow too and again with the unknown bunch consisting of 4 people, while the town would most likely lose someone trustworthy. But in the end, it's your choice. If you don't want to shot in the dark, then don't do it.

Holy, you could say he's been more or less randomly chosen out of the unknown bunch consisting of him, Kina, Sky, WG and Harvy (he's reserved to the MVP investigation I guess) to win a trip to the wonderful Graveyard. If you have a better idea, we're here to listen.

No idea. Sky and Harvy are barely here, SUDoK and Mr. Haba are MIA…And WG doesn't seem to want to follow the Mr. Haba bandwagon. Maybe he knows something we don't know. Makes me wanna change my lynch vote to him actually.

@Nectar:

! http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/667/14636668.jpg

And here I was thinking nothing can be scarier than that Justin Bieber avatar. :shocked:

@TheMidnightRift:

6 - Dead men tell no tales, don't speak here if you're dead, wait until the end of the game. There will be an external location for dead players to discuss things.

If Nectar wouldn't have been lynched but his body would have just vanished, maybe I'll think twice but with Nectar being lynched, the rule should stop him from doing so. But not so sure about Kmo.

So the MVP's gonna go after Harvy?

@WG
LMAO
Haha, that did crossed my mind for a second. But officially, dead men shouldn't talk on the mafia thread…Isn't that a rule? goes to re-read the rules

@Mrs.:

[hide]
"I am… Awesome Unicorn, my role is Winner! I would automatically win the game at the end. After which I would receive pie and money!"[/hide]

:blink:Someone may get some nice role ideas. Who's gonna host the next game?
Anyways….EXACTLY, that's my role. No idea how Mrs. Iceburg knows about it. She must be psychic.

Lynch Vote: Mr. Habaneroo I can't decide if him, WG or Sky fits the 4th mafia better. Harvy and Kina fit more the 3rd party but hopefully the MVP would tell tomorrow exactly who's bad.
Though, it would be funny if the 4th mafia member's already dead and the town's gonna keep looking for him until a town member and the 3rd party are left alive. Oook, maybe not that funny, but I'll still laugh.

@kmohyudin:

Because of this, you are NOT getting MVP tonight :ninja:

Maaan, I should've just kept my mouth shut and invent an awesome role, fake quote it and send it to both Nectar and you. Though, that wouldn't help regarding the MVP. I was busy lately which results in a lazy townie this dayphase.

@Nectar:

-If you haven't already, please private message Kmohyudin AND myself your Original Game Role/Power. Any future game targets should also be PM'ed to us**.**

Do I have to send you the Original PM that SGR sent me? Because if that's true, there's gonna be a problem with that. My PM folder was full and I deleted lots of PMs last Friday, including the one with the role. :pouty:

Ms.Goldenweek (-2), Mr. Croc (+1)

Bellemere 20
Hiruluk 17
Shanks 19
Brook 8
Nico Robin 17
Crocodile 15
Ms.Goldenweek 7

Ms.Goldenweek (-3)

Bellemere 20
Hiruluk 17
Shanks 19
Brook 8
Nico Robin 20
Crocodile 14
Ms.Goldenweek 12

@Sky:

It sounds to me here that he's purposefuly suspecting an actual mafia so that when mette got revealed as townie (because how could he know mette wouldn't die?) to make himself look more townie.

I don't know if he did that intentionally or not, but even if he didn't do it on purpose, there's always the 3rd party around. He's suspicious for not scumhunting like most of the other left players did (same with Mr. Haba, Kina and in the second part of the game with Sky).

I'm up for lynching either Mr. Haba or WG and investigating Harvy this nightphase and Kina next phase.

I have a question: How did Vor know that his buddy Bogart will die? The Jailer said he'll die, no? But why didn't Mette die (was him, right?) when he got his death sentence? It really makes the Jailer feel like a 3rd party that needs to do certain tasks in order to win…A townie Jailer that can investigate and kill while there are lynches around is really strange. And what's up with the laugh after Bogart got killed?

True, none of them looks like a 3rd common party.
I'm not that sure all 3rd party look neutral. In the games I've played, only the survivor and sometimes the Jester looked neutral, the serial killer looked bad while lynched/killed (in normal investigation he'll look innocent while the other neutral parties would look non-town)…BUT, I never played Epic Mafia so I have no idea about the rules there.

Well, Harvy was one of the players saying we should ignore Bogart since he's not present in the game and focus on other players.

And we should also check who didn't find Nectar suspicious, of course. Or who didn't exactly want Nectar to be investigated.

Question: Are we sure all the dead baddies are from the mafia team? Does any of them look like a bad 3rd party?

Awww, why Masty? Wasn't he like…harmless to the mafia due to the nullification?

Mette's got investigated? I'm curious about the answer, especially with this post that seemed lost between our other posts:
@SomebodyUDon'tKnow:

Well, not much info from me.
Wai-vor is mafia? Who knew!
But Nectar may have been telling the truth. I dunno. It seems out of character for him. But all I know is mette is townie. That's what I have found out in these two days.

@Harvady:

I must've missed something. How is the town aware of Kmo's alignment?

He was the one who started the Chaos yet the mafia used their one-shot ability exactly when he started the Chaos…Sounds a little too convenient for Kmo and Vor to be both part of the same team imo. And Nectar+Vor+Bogart+Kmo = already 4 members with none of them being Godfather...

Skip that Kina, I've missed some posts.

So the whole Janitor was bulls*!t, right?

I guess the All Marines = Mafia doesn't fit anymore here. And of course, Kmo was 100% townie.

Though, Vor being in the same team with Bogart is really strange…Unless something really bad's gonna happen to the town once they were dead.

Sooo, who's gonna be investigated?

Oh well Kina, no matter what you're saying right now it won't make you disappear from the MVP investigation list I guess.

@ Mrs. Iceburg
Bus Driver can swap two players. Let's say X is scum and Y is townie. Z is another scum and Bus Driver and swaps X and Y around. Every ability that was directed to X would be deflected to Y and viceversa. So if he thinks his scum buddy would be investigated by a cop, he'll switch him with a townie and the cop's actually gonna investigate that townie without knowing (in his report the scum would appear town).

@Silent:

I've got one issue with that… Why did kmo target Nectar with his ability then on night 2?

Do we have any proof on what Kmo's ability is? He could have been very well a bus driver swapping Nectar with Holy or some other "trusted" player around. Though, it was all a joke. There's like 50% chance that all mafias are Marines I guess.

@vorlianis:

Eh i suppose i am dead now such a shame.

You have gotten a clear scum read on Kina now though, while i put down a maf he still lynches me without thinking.

That's what I thought when I saw her lynch vote…Guess she didn't really read most of the posts. I'm really sorry that you got lynched.:sad:

That laugh after Bogart died makes me worry.

Well, at least the person who should have died, died, no? And Vor should now look townie if he spoke the truth.

@TheMidnightRift:

I don't like Modkilling, and he kept being active by sending me his ability, so I didn't ask him to be replaced.

As to why he did that, you gotta ask the man himself.

-________-' Wow, I really don't wanna ask him 'cause I can figure out what answer I'll get. Thanks for the explanation.

So, Nectar's marine and a scum, Bogart a marine and a scum, Kmo a marine and God knows what and both Kmo and Nectar seemed to ignore Bogart's existence. Harvy did the same but he's not a Marine…

SGR, I have a question. Why didn't you mod killed Bogart or replace him since his role doesn't mention anything about him being mute?

@Mrs.:

I'm more leaning towards Kinalara for investigating. Sky and Haba haven't been visiting lately, but it's probably due to real life things and I haven't seen either of them post anything scummy yet.

Kina's a good option too I guess. She did have some sort of fight with Vor over outing the Jailer but meh, one can be 3rd party, one mafia.
About Mr Haba…He was the Cult Leader in a game and he barely posted, while nothing that he posted seemed scummy in the slightest. XD If it wasn't for Vor, probably the cult would have won that game.

Sooooo, the at least 2 mafia members are Marine. With Kmo starting the Chaos that makes 3...Now where's the 4th? J/K

XD Mette didn't include himself in the list 'cause he knows he's already Godfather in most of the townies's eyes I guess. Though, we could follow his list.

Now, what's wrong with Mr. Haba and Sky ( I'll skip the other missing person for obvious reasons :D)? Sky's here yet not exactly here and Mr. Haba's been MIA lately.

Voting Nothing (8) - Bogart, Harvady Alumnus, Kinalara, Mr Habaneroo, Sky, SomebodyUDon'tKnow, Vorlianis, Wooden Giraffe

14 Alive, Majority is 7

Vorlianis (6) – Malice, Mastello, Metteminne, Silent Klabautermann, Holygamer99, Mrs Iceburg

DON'T FREAKIN' HAMMER UNTIL WE TELL YOU TOO ARE GET READY TO GET YOUR ASS SKINNED!! (quoted from Kmo :D)

Making sure no one's suddenly hammering.

@ SKHaha, true. I guess in the town of lies you shouldn't believe anything, huh?

Oh well, Vor, you're the 4th tormented soul that can kill in the dayphase, that's all I can think of. Harvy seemed to joke (or not) to be the Jailer…But since he didn't nullify I guess he was indeed joking or he's not a townie. Nectar was laughing at anyone thinking the Jailer isn't townie and Nectar flipped mafia...Not sure what to think.
So about how many minutes/hours/days you need to actually prove what you just said? When are we gonna see the results?

"Each day, the corrupted souls will have the option of killing at free will whoever they desire."

Jeez, Vor, you either built a mastermind plan or you're telling the true but you're 1 shoot away from dying…

@Mastello:

I'd say, investigate Harvady. As if this wouldn't be weird enough as it is, he said something weird about jailer earlier. http://apforums.net/showpost.php?p=2152121&postcount=2450

That said, whoever wants to hammer on vor has my approval. I don't like this waiting game at all.

Yeah, that's the post I also find fishy about Harvy.
Not sure about hammering just yet. If this proves right, we may never catch the allegiance swapper and he/she'll appear town in the MVP investigation while being mafia. I guess what Vor's claiming actually fits the "Trust Nobody" idea…But not trusting the MVP investigation? T_T SGR, you just don't want the town to win, just like every other mod here, huh?

Voting Nothing (8) - Bogart, Harvady Alumnus, Kinalara, Mr Habaneroo, Sky, SomebodyUDon'tKnow, Vorlianis, Wooden Giraffe

14 Alive, Majority is 7

Vorlianis (6) – Malice, Mastello, Metteminne, Silent Klabautermann, Holygamer99, Mrs Iceburg

DON'T FREAKIN' HAMMER UNTIL WE TELL YOU TOO ARE GET READY TO GET YOUR ASS SKINNED!! (quoted from Kmo :D)

Making sure the townies would see this.

I guess no one asked you that because no one's 100% believing what you're saying. Oh, and I somehow thought the Jailer is actually the person who "stole" your allegiance…

Now, wouldn't what you've just said actually slim the chances of you winning the gambling since the person who'd chose the next dead already saw the thread?

@ SK
I'm not sure. Maybe Harvy, Sky, WG or Bogart. They're quite reserved with the scumhunting.

@vorlianis:

I can't prove it now it all depends on 1 factor when or even if that person will die or not, if it comes to the worst case lynch me before the day ends.

So, let's say we give you a chance…What are going to do? I mean, what's keeping you for killing or doing whatever you need to do to the "allegiance stealer" right now?

@Silent:

The whole switch thing on an mvp investigation that is supposed to be unable to be screwed with, not being able to say the name otherwise the thing is void…
Personally, I think this reeks of a big lie.

I guess what he's saying is that he got converted by someone bad and now that bad player appears good while he took the bad status. BUT this would also mean that the bad that got good is now a townie, so he can't be part of the mafia (can't be town and know the mafia members) but the ex 3rd party. And now Vor's the 3rd part while the ex 3rd party's town. :blink: If that's true, the ex third party should be someone wanting Vor dead as fast as possible BUT the person I have in mind didn't exactly jump on any Vor bandwaggon… Fairytale much, huh? Though, if it's true, SGR should get some sort of award for creating such role.

But tell me something Vor, you're the only player that that person can change or not? I mean, the person was looking for you or you were randomly chosen? And, were you really a townie in the beginning?

Oh well, I guess I know whom you're talking about…Or not. But if that's the person I'm thinking, he/she did say something fishy at a point.

"The Politician's vote counts twice, making his vote very decisive in determining who wins, especially later on in the game. The Politician changes sides randomly every two days (except in [day start], where it will change after the first night). A message will appear telling you which side the game has randomly chosen to put you on. It is very possible to stay with one side the entire game, so don't expect a switch to occur."
Hmmmm….This is the closest thing I know to what Vor's claiming...I mean getting his side changed more than once.

Nah, I honestly doubt Vor was a townie. He's the 4th tormented soul. Wasn't it mentioned that someone can KILL in the dayphase in the opening story? And Vor just said he can kill in the dayphases...Now I'm not sure if I'll believe or not that he can be turned into a townie by killing someone.

@vorlianis:

The first option it is indeed, will you believe me once he turns out to be mafia? I don't really expect you all to believe me but before i die i want him dead for setting me up like that.

And you're not allowed to tell that player's name by chance?
I'm not sure if I believe you or not, Vor…Nectar was a mafia and claimed to have everything planned really well so that he'll win...:unsure:

@Mrs.:

Malice, you MVP'd him, right? Did you get any information on him that could confirm his story?

Nah, it only says he's bad, that's all.

@vorlianis:

If that person stays alive i believe he might be able to convince you all somehow anyway that he is innocent. Because he gets to keep his innocent status (while being mafia) even if i die.

That must be either one of the biggest lies I've heard in a mafia or something quite interesting.
BUT…Why didn't you said this before we got a guilty report on you?

@vorlianis:

I don't ask for another day i ask for not killing me right away this day, all i can say is this if you give me enough time a mafia will die.

Let me give you this if it happens i am lynched anyway before that, if i die i won't be the only one.This is not a threat but something that will happen for 100% if i get killed today.

And why would you help the town, Vor? :blink: What's your gain here? I could give you a try but what if you're a scummy and you're taking down with you someone really important for the town? Or you could very well be a 3rd party that wins if certain conditions are accomplished…Like you killing a certain character and then getting lynched.

@Silent:

vor, there's a guilty on you. you're going to die today either way.
also, if you for some strange reason really turn out to be town, Malice is sure to be the next one to be lynched, so it doesn't really matter all that much.

He's BAD. In red. No way in hell he turns out to be townie. I guess he's posing in a 3rd evil party…the tormented soul that works alone.

@vorlianis:

I don't expect people to stop lynching me i ask for letting me have an extention of letting me die.

Again Vor?
Ok, care to share what exactly is your role? And why should we give you another day? The BAD side can't win with the townies so you gotto have something evilish in your mind.

@Mrs.:

I've been thinking this since the beginning of the game, getting your character name revealed isn't a very good thing. Not as bad as flat out giving away your ability, but still.
I think Mafia need knowledge (about who we are and what we do) to be able to do things. I think the chaos is very closely related to that. So what we need to do is expose as little information as possible. When we have a suspect, keep it clean and to the point, and don't say baseless things to make them blurt out information on their abilities. This makes interrogating kind of tough but we'll have to make do, we can't risk our town like that.
This makes me wonder if the Jailer is still around, he could be very helpful at this point in the game.

Since, like SK mentioned, the mod's actually revealing the mvp's character and their target, I guess revealing the character isn't that chaotic but not exactly good either. Though, you're right, the mafia needs some knowledge before doing something. At least I hope that's what explains the missing of nightkills.:unsure:
Regarding the Jailer, I'm not sure about it (looks at Harvy's post last dayphase). In a normal setup, the Jailer can work only when no one's getting lynched…

@Holygamer99:

Hey guys, one thing im noticing going through nectar's posts is that he really wanted to learn the names of our characters. Could be important.

Yeah, I was wondering too about that. I thought at first that the mafia characters are all marines or belonging to a certain arc and he wanted to know what other characters are around to fake claim but I guess in the end he wanted to see what player's character could have an important ability. (like, for example, in a Naruto Mafia, everyone would expect for Sakura to be doctor).

@kmohyudin:

Get well soon Malice

Or you know… you can die and join us and the fun at graveyard...

Probably shouldn't have combined those two things together... Meh, its a stupid joke, but I am a stupid joker, so whatever

Thanks Kmo!!!
Hahaha (see, I'm laughing, not a stupid joke and sure as hell not a stupid joker ), I'm actually missing sometimes the Graveyard. But I guess in this game the Graveyard is some sort of Exclusivist club 'cause it doesn't seem to want to accept other members…At least not in the nightphases.

Voting Nothing (9) - Bogart, Harvady Alumnus, Kinalara, Mr Habaneroo, Mrs Iceburg, Sky, SomebodyUDon'tKnow, Vorlianis, Wooden Giraffe

14 Alive, Majority is 7

Vorlianis (5) – Malice, Mastello, Metteminne, Silent Klabautermann, Holygamer99

DON'T FREAKIN' HAMMER UNTIL WE TELL YOU TOO ARE GET READY TO GET YOUR ASS SKINNED!! (quoted from Kmo :D)

Hope people would actually read this. Vor needs a chance to talk, we need a way to make a townie get the MVP and we must figure out whom the MVP should investigate.

@SK
Vor's 100% Bad, the result of the mvp investigation should be real evidence I guess.

@Holygamer99:

K, what U plan on doing is going over every post Necter made. See if I can dig something up.

Try Vor, Mr Haba or some other "neutral" player's posts too. I looked a little over Nectar's posts but he's careful with what he's posting I guess. Though, I'm not sure why, as a mafia, Nectar, when he got the MVP, didn't investigate Harvy since he kept claiming "how come no one suspects Harvy who is an experienced player, a mafia moderator etc" (something like that, you get the idea). As a mafia, he should have been afraid a little of him, no? Ehhh, probably I'm thinking too much about it…