Thanks for the SBS scans!
Looks like we're going to get some explanation for the devil fruit. That'll be interesting. And omg Sai and Baby 5's child.
Thanks for the SBS scans!
Looks like we're going to get some explanation for the devil fruit. That'll be interesting. And omg Sai and Baby 5's child.
Wow, such an organized and comprehensive list on the 1st post. I really enjoyed reading that!
I was always aware of One Piece, but it took me a looong time to get into it. I can't place an exact date, but I know I started around late June/early July in the summer of 2014. So, the date would be around the release of chapter 751 or 752?
Or maybe he's just a female and is afraid of people finding that out, so he named himself Crocodile after becoming a full time male.
Oh I agree that he was once a female, but I didn't want to make another theory regarding his gender, since it's been discussed at length before. This post is mostly speculation about his name and origin.
So with all the talk on Fujitora's proposal of abolishing the Shichibukai system, it got me thinking about them lately. I was looking at their page on the One Piece wiki, and my mind wandered off when I saw Crocodile. I thought it was strange how we know the full names of the rest of the Shichibukai, except for Buggy and him. In posts that discuss Crocodile's identity, some people have posited the possibility of his former name being Croco D. Ile. I definitely don't think that Crocodile is his real name, but an anagram of it would be a clever thing that he would use to hide it. And while I think there is a possibility that he could be a D, Croco D. Ile, I feel is way too obvious. So, I started playing around with the letters in his name, and one stuck out to me the most:
Coro D. Ciel
Why, you might ask is this one special? I know that 'ciel' is a word that is French for 'heaven'or 'sky'. Meanwhile, I looked up 'coro' in the translator and it gave me an Italian word for 'choir' or 'chorus'. And why is arranging the letters to form French and Italian words important? Well, maybe not important, but it's interesting.
To begin, look at Crocodile's design. Reminds you of an Italian mafia boss, doesn't he? Think of Baroque Works, 'baroque' is French and google gives one of its definitions as highly ornate and extravagant in style. Totally describes him. Think of his attacks:Sables=French for sand, Desert Spada=Italian for sword, Desert Girasole=Italian for sunflower, to name a few. Crocodile has several French-Italian connections around his character, so it wouldn't be implausible that his real name could also be French-Italian inspired.
I mulled over the words after considering their meaning and Crocodile's character,
So all of the things I pointed out leads to my theory: Could Crocodile have some sort of connection to the Sky Islands?
1. Crocodile
2. Robin
3. Moria
4. Doflamingo
5. Kuzan
6. Franky
7. Bon Clay
8. Brook
9. Usopp
10. Borsalino
11. Galdino
12. Perona
13. Jabra
14. Dragon
15. Bartolomeo
I kindly disagree that Luffy's only concern is physical strength related. Luffy has shown on multiple occasions that he is an outstanding human being when it comes to mental growth, sympathy for others and putting the needs of his crew above his own.
one shouldn't expect him to express his emotions in a soft way, that doesn't mean the lack of said emotions, as I would argue that Luffy is one of the most caring and humane people in the One Piece world
In short, Luffy won't suddenly and hastily change and decides to go comfort Zoro after each wound that is inflected upon the green haired unofficial first mate. Some men converse in subtler wordless methods, for some words and emotions are better relayed silently.
I don't think you and I are discussing the same thing. I'm not questioning Luffy's ability to feel compassion and empathy. I'm questioning the fact that his poor judgement or rather lack of judgement concerning many of his fights, that leads to him or his crewmates nearly losing their lives. Luffy and Zoro are not affectionate people in general, so I don't expect them to comfort one another.
he trusts them enough to hold their own against New World opponents.
Certainly the Strawhats trust each other. It's admirable that they do. Nevertheless, it proved to be poor judgement as they learn to their detriment at Sabaody. I found an excellent post on reddit by someone who articulates my thoughts better than I do.
http://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/2focdk/what_are_some_of_your_unpopular_opinions/ckb8zfy This is by kagedtiger:
Another thing that we realize is that Luffy could be Moriah if he had lost his crew like that. They're not so different. Moriah realizes this too. He starts to tell Luffy about the New World, but he doesn't really speak to him like an enemy. It's almost like he's warning him because he sees himself in Luffy and doesn't want the same thing to happen to someone else, whether he realizes it consciously or not.
Then Moriah uses Shadows Asgard, which is basically a last resort rather than a trump card, as stated by Zoro. After this, he is easily defeated, and all the shadows return. The arc is over, everyone's happy, and Luffy learns nothing from the encounter. But we as the readers learn. We learn that Luffy's too confident, too rash. We know that there are ruthless, terrifyingly strong enemies ahead, and Luffy's just gonna rush blindly into them. For maybe the first time in the series, we really start to worry for everyone's favorite rubberman. Maybe things won't always be so easy.
I put in bold the what bothers me about Luffy. Those are traits he can certainly learn to restrain.
Zoro's and sanji's quarrel before Kuma as well as Zoro's Ultimate sacrifice are great examples of how much a crew can go for their captain, as Kuma acknowledged this while taking his leave.
As far as this is concerned, a few posts down from the quote above is another excellent post by redkardon:
Damn, this should be a straight copypasta for anyone who claims Thriller Bark was useless.
Something that ties rather well into your point is that entire Zoro/Sanji/Kuma interaction at the end of the arc. Sanji and Zoro were ready to lay down their lives for Luffy's dream. Luffy's prepared to die for his nakama, no doubt, but look at how he is at the end of the arc: the exact same as where he started. Moria's message didn't really get through to him. As far as Luffy's concerned, the New World is just another step on his path to become the Pirate King; sure, the enemies might be stronger, but he has Gear Second and Third and just took down another Shichibukai, he'll be fine, right?
There's just so much going on in that scene. Zoro is nearly killed when he tries to shoulder the burden Luffy bears after the arc, by the guy who would later do more to crush Luffy's dreams than anyone else in the series thus far. And at the end, like Zoro said, "nothing happened." We get a reinforcement of how far Zoro and Sanji would go; we as readers get set up for dramatic irony when we realize how frightfully unprepared the crew is; and ultimately, Luffy's luck when it comes to his happy-go-lucky approach is cut short.
There are a few personality quirks I can accept as constants when it comes to Luffy:
Simple-mindedness: Falling for mind tricks and being easily manipulated (ie Jango's hypnosis and Miss Goldenweek's color traps). Also his tendency to forgive and forget easily. Luffy just isn't Luffy without that.
Determination: I admire his resolve when facing his enemies. It's always fun to see the hero overcome odds to achieve a hard fought victory.
Stubbornness: His wanting to head to an island whether it presents danger or not. And not hearing a sensible word from his crew against it. Because face it, when Luffy sets his mind on something, he will not let it go. And besides we probably wouldn't have as much fun as readers if he didn't go adventuring to those dangerous places. However…
It's also one of his worst qualities. When it comes to fighting, Luffy has a tendency to push himself near death and he gives his crew endless grief because of that. One moment that stands out is the end of Thriller Bark. As Luffy lay unconscious, Zoro negotiates with Kuma and offers to shoulder Luffy's pain. Being the tank that Luffy is, the kind of physical pain he experiences is beyond the average human. And while Zoro is no average human himself, it is undeniable that the burden was too much for him. It's worst because Zoro's pride prevents him from telling Luffy and it upsets me that Luffy doesn't bother to look deeper into Zoro's condition (maybe that might be asking too much, since when has Luffy been introspective? lol). His reaction was just, "I feel great!", then he moves on, despite seeing how unusually more damaged Zoro looks compared to the other strawhats.
I dearly wish Oda will use this as a future plot point. I want Luffy to know about this and be absolutely guilt-ridden. I'm not saying this to be a sadist, but so far, Luffy is only concerned with growing stronger. Given that this is a shonen manga, having dialogue that boils down to STRONGER THIS, STRONGER THAT, and that strength usually only means physical growth, I can to some extent, accept that progression. But how about along with physical growth, he shows EMOTIONAL growth? Luffy hasn't shown much emotional maturation since the time-skip. There was that time on Saboady when he ignored the fake strawhats taunts and went on with his business. That was okay. And he hasn't yet pushed himself to the point of death. Although that remains to be seen, since he's facing Doflamingo in upcoming chapters.
tl;dr - I want Luffy to learn that he makes mistakes that could cost him his life or his crews' lives and learn from it. It bothers me that he babbles on about wanting to grow stronger and better protect his nakama, but his recklessness indicates the opposite of that. He should be more considerate of his nakamas' thoughts and counsel.
Apologies if this has been posted before, but as my username suggests:
Kamo Kamo no mi (The camouflage fruit)
Paramecia
Allows the user the change their skin and clothes to match his or her surroundings through touch. It changes not just color but texture. Say for example, the user touches diamond, he or she can change their skin to diamond. Imagine tearing up enemies with diamond shards. Or metals; copper, gold, silver. The user could transform their skin while they scrap off dead skin cells, and insta gold! Or something simpler, cotton; insulation against cold. Lots of possibilities with this fruit.
Hi all. I'm entirely new to the behemoth that is One Piece.
Although it has long been a mega popular manga/anime, for some reason I had never really taken to it. The art was childish and the story and characters sounds like typical and cliched shonen fare. However, over the summer and autumn I decided to give it a shot. Yep, I binge-read 74 volumes and the recent chapters. The result of my binge left me wondering why it took so long for me to read this awesome manga! Glad I came on board, eventually. Better late than never, right?
I've been lurking the forum for a while, and have found this community to be unique from other OP communities in that it mixes intelligent, meaningful discussion with fun, lighthearted talk. So now I joined! Hope I have fun too.