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And manga and anime pretty much translate into comic books and cartoons, therefore, One Piece is a cartoon.
Seriously, just because it's from Japan, that doesn't make it special or anything. Or however it is most of you see it.
One Piece is a cartoon. From Japan.
And you're a moron. From the U.S.A.
Well, reading manga because you don't have a life, IS pretty sad. Suicide is your best way out.
It's 268-269. The episode preview of the next one is "Give Robin Back! Luffy Vs Blueno" and that's 270.
Amazing episodes, extremely emotional and pretty well drawn. Does anybody know what the music score, from the part where paulie has the flashbacks with luffy nami etc, is? Name, where can I find it blah blah :)
There is a pretty solid translation in the spoiler thread. Franky is not going to help Luffy, Luffy is going to stall Lucci in order to let Franky go get Robin.
Luffy didn't overcome anything in the Enel fight, he just got beaten up, then then, for the sake of the plot, KOed Enel at the end of the fight. A
Uhm, did you watch a different fight? Luffy beat the hell out of Eneru, kicked his ass some more and then was thrown down along with the golden ball. And then he came back and hit him twice ending the fight.
Order of the fight.
-Luffy comes back to the sky and hits Eneru in the face with a kick
-Luffy uses Gomu Gomu no Ougon Rifle and KOs Eneru.
Yeah, looks like Luffy ruled the fight to me.
Well, i guess so but they are merely bruises. Luffy on the other hand is clearly bleeding.
Yeah, you need to read the chapters again mate. In the 414 panel Luffy is not bleeding. Lucci COULD be bleeding. You need a HQ to see that and it's pretty obvious. Carry on.
But I agree that this isn't a spoiler. It's just a normal discution.
Yeah, enough with that though. I said "potential spoilers" about the posts inside the topic, not the original post. As you can see, the notice was right on target – As shown in psolaras' post.
Thanx for the super fast release K-F! Great episode, although I feel pretty sorry for chopper, being thrown by Zoro and all that :P
Go Luffy and kick his ass!
Well I've been having this thought for quite some time now and the reason I'm
starting this thread is because [SPOILERS] I wanted to see if Zoro would deal with Kaku and Jyabura all by himself or if anyone else would butt in. (I.e. Sanji in recent chapters) [/SPOILERS]
From the beginning of the series, Oda introduced the (imo) two main characters of One Piece battle-wise. We were lead to believe that Zoro and Luffy were almost equal in strength and both of them were after a Major Goal – Pirate King and Best Swordsman. As shown later in Whiskey Peak, Luffy and Zoro were pretty close in combat prowess. So I had the feeling that if Zoro was to be a near equal of Luffy he'd have to fight both CP9s standing in front of him, Kaku and Jabs. Judging by their ratings Zoro's advs would have a sum of 4380 and Luffy would battle a 4000 monster,showing that Zoro could rival Luffy. On the other hand, Zoro vs Kaku is not resolved yet and for all we know, Zoro could finish of Kaku without getting beat up for a change and show that he was far above Kaku's skill level thus closer to Luffy if his fight with Lucci proves to be a pain in the ass.
Anyway my point for the thread is, what do you think of the relative difference in power between Luffy and Zoro? Is the Enies Lobby arc the place where Luffy stands above Zoro and defines a boundary in their respective skill? Or does Oda have a secret we don't know as of yet?
Question: Who opened the Gate Of Justice?
I'd say about 700-800. What troubles me is that 1000 chapters equals 20 years worth of One Piece. This could be troublesome for the anime voices and from what I recall Oda wanted to write another manga after One Piece is over. Come to think of it, I don't think I'll be following the manga in 10 years :|
Oh God, the Gum Gum thing is back..
So basically you've established the fact that they are going to Impel Down, the BW will be there AND they're going to escape from that place together.
Impel Down is a prison where the most dangerous pirates are being held, with massive marine manpower and God knows what else methods of keeping the pirates at bay. Let's say they actually go to Impel Down instead of going back ( Just because Nami said that they can only go forward doesn't mean that they actually ARE going to do that) and they don't go to the Marine Headquarters ( Where in my head the whole Luffy –-> Sichibukai scenario could unfold leaving them unharmed and ready to go on their journey) or someplace else.
Why on earth would they team up with the BW? Why would Oda backtrack the storyline by using old characters at major roles in a new arc? We've had our share of BW and Crocodile for about 1/6 of the series.
Furthermore, if they do go forward and not backwards, what then? Even if they have the Impel Down arc you're craving for,where are they going next? Back through the Gate of Justice? I doubt the WG will make the same mistake twice. Through a secret tunnel situated near Impel Down? Why would the government leave a way out of Impel Down open?
Now I don't want to be the negative guy here, but please stop taking for granded that Impel Down is the next arc. Recycling characters is not Oda's best shot at One Piece.
The later.
Kaku's half-zoan form is quite interesting and alot more diverse than his human form. Giraffes have a 110something bone constructed neck capable of bending like rubber. This is shown in the latest chapter when he dodges Zoro's cuts.
Thank you Battle Franky, I consider these HQ digi-images :)
Looks like we've got ourselves a hunter. Zoro should be more careful with this fight and keep his focus on Kaku. He's already hit him once for not paying attention, ( back in Iceberg's mansion ) just like he did to Sanji on the Puffing Tom. That panel where they battle and Zoro's attention is on SogeKing worries me.
In other news – another debate, this time regarding Usopp and Zoro has been fired up in this topic! What's next, Luffy vs Usopp?
Well Nami said the right words :)
When these guys are uncertain they become weak. But when they know what they're fighting for,there's no stopping them.
im gonna be critisized fer what im gonna say here.
i think it would help the story if chopper DID die.
now, under THESE circumstances, no, it wouldn't, he really didn't have a final werd or owning.
but if tyhings went basically the same way-franky blasting him into the sea- but then fer some unknown reason, franky can't save him, and chopper dies.
IN MY OPINION, one of the one piece characters needs to die. not because i dislike any of them, simply because so far, the whole series has always had happy endings. pell getting blown up by the bomb, but-low and behold, happy ending- he survives!
SOMEONE big needs to die- maybe not chopper, but maybe robin…y'know, they go through this massive series of fights, all for nothing.
SIMPLY A THOUGHT, don't go calling me an idiot because of this realistic idea i have.
all in all, one piece is way to fairy tale-ish, in the sense that no BIG good guys die.
You said it yourself,the story has happy endings. But all the starting points are filled with sadness and pain. i.e. :
Zoro & Kuina's Death
Sanji & starving on an island
Nami & her tragic past with arlong
Usopp & his obsession with lying since his mother died
Chopper & Dr. Hiluluk's explosion :P
Robin & the ohara incident
These backstories act as a focal point for the Crew's dreams. So yes, it is a fairytale, but a fairytale that talks about dreams. How from a threshold of pain the main characters can get past themselves and fulfill their dreams.
But how will that be possible if a crewmember dies? Sure it'll add a more mature theme to the series and the death element that lacks in the present era, but that's not what One Piece is about. One Piece is about reaching your goals and getting "there", to the place that your greatest ambitions are met.
And that point in the One Piece storyline, is the end of their journey, where I think ALL dreams will be fulfilled and everyone's story has had closure – RAFTEL.
I was thinking the same thing…in the past, when Chopper has been shown falling into water, he usually stays in the little half-form, but you'd think he'd revert to full reindeer. But I guess you could say that the power simply neutralizes, or ceases to function wherever it's at, rather than completely reversing it. I guess our question will be partly answered depending on how Franky drags Chopper up. :/
Well when Luffy was thrown in the water by Arlong, his limbs were still rubbery. ( His head was out of the water by stretching his neck ) It seems that the Devil fruit users' powers are only neutralized and not completely nullified by water. So it makes sense that Chopper was reverted to his little humanoid form.
Hm, good point. How exactly was Chopper stopped the first time?
Well, he did destroy a small town all by himself. If you take in account the time that passed in Enies Lobby from the 3rd rumble ball, to the last chapter,
I don't think that more than 10 minutes passed. The Buster Call is 30-? minutes away and I doubt more than 5 minutes have passed already. From the transformation to the present situation, Chopper has been gradually losing stamina. First by the ( SPOILERS ) tired look he had when he faced Califa and then by Zoro's comment that he looks like he's dying and he has lost a lot of energy. So I guess that after rampaging the small town, Chopper got extremely tired and fainted. And apparently the 3rd rumble ball has an enormous degenerating effect on his body, since in the mini-flashback he was covered in bandages after the incident.
Uhm..I think that Franky sent him flying in the sea in order to save him.
Sea Water nullifies the Devil Fruits and taking in account the time Chopper jumped into sea during the Jaya ark using Jump Point and then Zoro dragged him out in his original form, I think that it's enough to cancel the 3-rumble ball effect.
I wish Zoro and Sawyer combined sperm and had a son through a surrogate mother. That boy would be the coolest being alive.
hahaha, I second that. Zoyer would so rule the world :P
Great chapter, thanx BF!
This thread is dangerously coming close to a DB battle rating argument. :unsure:
Sanji/Nami moment
Thank you Kudou for the translation.
This was a cool chapter. I like chopper's attacks on the octopus man (I can never remeber his or the zippermouth guys names). mini luffy is cool also. I think that Calphia has the #2 key. Sanji will take the key to Zoro and Sogeking, and they will have a 3 on 2 match against Kaku and Jyabura. Zoro and Sanji attacking up close and Sogeking firing from a distance.
What kind of development whould the characters undergo if they had a 3vs2 fight?
Actually they can't be near sea-water, not water in general. It's all about the strange emission of "power" from the sea. ( Thus the seastone effect )
Dragon's devil fruit certainly looks "stronger" that all the elemental users' ones together though.
The last island is believed to be Raftel. The Island inwhich Gol D. Roger supposedely has stored the One Piece.
I think the One Piece is a little bit more complex than just a physical manifestation of whatever someone might think it'll be. I believe that One Piece is more of the journey every pirate makes to reach it than anything else. I.e. For Luffy it would be the path to the "throne" of the Pirate King. His battles,the way he evolves and learns, the nakama he makes and the experience he gains through his journey. For Zoro it would be the struggle to become the strongest swordsman and beat Mihawk and blah blah. I have the feeling that Oda is up to something like that, for Gol D. Roger to find one piece, being just a metaphor for fulfilling his dream and this is what everyone else is out to do. ( This makes the whole "Whitebeard is closer to One Piece" more understandable to me. He's been through a lot of stuff in his life and near the end of his life,he's almost achieved anything he wanted)
Just my thoughts :)
You can also try out Everquest II. RP-wise it's the best one out there. Well there's also FF XI but being anything but japanese is a major problem with that one.
I'm 21 from greece and have been reading the forums for quite some time.
Good to be here,hope you guys will go easy on me :ninja:
One down, five to go!