@Foxy:

I got it from this page, it's about as official as you can get. And don't trust One Piece Wiki, they always get shit wrong.

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You just try to push your personal belief as a fact, just like how you tried your best to prove there wouldn't be any new admirals. Ignoring actual facts and just pushing your personal belief seems to be your specialty.

Not saying the OP Wikia is correct, but you are not right either. Saying Blackbeards animal counterpart is a bearded pig just because Jewelry insulted him with that word is like saying if I call you a slimy pig your animal counterpart will be a slimy pig.

@1PceXperience:

30 pages of passionate and heated discussion.

Arlong Park, my love, dance with me in the moonlight you beautiful dame.

Followed by a warning from the mods xD Got an email from contact@apforums.net saying I was warned for "Inappropriate Content", I thought it'd send me a PM on the forum too (for a warning) since I'm a moderator at another Vb forum and it does that there, but on AP I just got an email for the warning.

With all the debate going on, I totally forgot to express how "wow'd" I was with the fact that Doflamingo actually is scared by Kaido, it shows the Yonko are no joke and it's going to be similar to SH's v.s Shichibukai (after entering grand line) only 100x better.

There is no point in continuing this discussion

@Foxy:

Law's animal theme is a tiger, and Blackbeard's is a bearded pig.

Do you have any source or is it again made up "facts"? It doesn't state on Wiki that Law = tiger and Blackbeard= bearded pig, while on other characters with animal reference it's clearly stated.

And if you are just stating that Law is Tiger due to Luffy's given pet name, as I stated earlier Luffy has given pet names to others too (Shirahoshi to be the latest).

@Foxy:

Where did you get that statistic? From one line?

No, your whole speculation.

Your Say: All known Vice Admirals were shown in One Piece Film Z, no VA could have been promoted!
Fact: Oda has stated that what happened in Film Z is not to be mixed with the original story. And as other members have pointed out a few VA's were not shown in Film Z.

Your Say: Admiral can be mistaken with Admirals
Fact: Stated by CCC and Aohige_AP that it cannot be possible for such a huge mistake since it's not the same in Japanese as a single s in English. You still stuck to "it can be a mistake" and CCC's reply was just "…"

Your Say: No one can fit together with Kizaru, because Kizaru, Aokiji and Akainu are all based on actors, all have logia etc.
Fact: To be an Admiral, you don't need to have Logia (Sengoku was an Admiral, as far as we know he is not a logia), even though the 3 admirals pre-timeskip were based on animals, so were the Shichibukai. Now it isn't the same, and I'm sorry to say Luffy gives a kind of pet name to many people, taking his pet name "Tiger-guy" is like branding Iceburg an idiot since Franky called him "Baka-berg".

Your Say: No new character should be an Admiral.
This is a person-to-person choice, some would like to see a new character be an Admiral some won't, personally I'd be f**king glad if there was a new character, especially a female admiral. We need some girl power in the top marine brass. I personally want to see a hot strong women as a marine.

We already know some new character is going to be included in the ranks of the Shichibukai, why not a new character as an Admiral? With Akainu as the fleet admiral (and higher-ups wanting him to be in that position) you never know who he may have suggested to be put into the rank of an Admiral, maybe we'll be seeing more extreme admirals with the same mindset as Akainu (ultimate justice).

@Foxy:

If you read the whole discussion, you would know that IndainOtaku started this with his rude comment, so don't criticize me when he's the one who antagonized me.

Excuse me, if anything you have been rude with comments such as "maybe you need therapy" and posting a meme with a remark made against me. I was quoting and stating facts already discussed in the thread and you totally chose to ignore them highlight certain parts of my posts and continue on with your theory. If you feel I've been rude, report the message to a moderator with your explanation and lets see what action is taken and who is the one blamed.

I think you need to just re-read the thread, read what others posted, process that and try to prove your theories with facts or something known, not just personal speculation and liking.

I'm sure you are going to ignore this post and still go on with your theory that Kizaru is the only Admiral :blink:

@Foxy:

If you have such a problem with the opinion of a random user on a One Piece forum, then you have deeper issues.

Maybe you should go to therapy?

I wonder who really has a problem, someone being logical or someone being stubborn?
If your opinion even had 2% fact in it, rather than baseless speculation then it'd be a different story.

@Foxy:

I still think you guys are looking into it way too deeply. One word isn't going to change my view on it.

How would other people fit in with Kizaru?

Akainu, Aokiji, and Kizaru only work when they are together or separate. They are all based on the Momotaro Legend, are all the same height, all have a face based on an actor, all have a specific color, all have Logias etc.

It wouldn't work if Kizaru was with other random guys that don't fit in with his theme. It would be awkward and not make sense, that's why the former Admirals are all split up, because they only look right when they are together or separate.

Also, it would be an ass-pull if Oda pulled out a random character that is Admiral level, and it won't happen because this isn't Bleach.

Those two spots that Akainu and Aokiji left are going to Smoker and Coby in the future, how more obvious could that be?

Are you one of those people against change? Old generation goes, new generation steps in. Eventually there has to be change, going by your logic no one should be a vice admiral unless they are as cool and strong as Garp!

@Foxy:

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So mature, replying with a meme.

Anyways, keep believing what you think is right and keep ignoring every fact put in front of you, once it's shown it the manga there are other admirals apart from Kizaru I'll speak to you then.

@Sir:

If only Kizaru was left Law would have said Kizaru not Admirals

Forget it, there is no point many other members here have tried reasoning with him, some people just don't look at facts and stay stubborn, and they believe what they think is right.

@Aohige_AP:

You're forgetting this manga is in Japanese.

Again.

It doesn't work that way.

CCC gave a proper explanation, I quoted it and told him to read, but he chose to ignore and still calls it a "mistake". Some people tend to ignore any facts put in-front of them and just believe they are right ^^

@Gia:

OMG, why is it so hard to not think otherwise? If you really have known the man and read his manga for the last 15 years, you know that he's not lazy when it comes to designing new characters. It is obvious the reason why Kizaru was alone in film Z is because he may have potentially new, never before seen admirals at hand here. Now, my obvious answer for this would be that since Kuzan left and Sakazuki is now FA, the world gov't had given them "more power" according to Jinbe. So my prediction this means the 2 members of the higher ups decided to take military positions, officially making the Marines follow Dark Justice more heavily.

Oda is not scared of introducing another 10 characters in a few chapters. There are also unnamed and non-introduced characters that we have never seen yet, such as the level 6 prisoners that broke out of impel down, Crocodile and Moriah's new affiliations, the world government higher ups as there are obviously more important people there, Kaidou and Big Mam's crew mates, as well as every arc introducing 5-10 new important characters.

Some people just like to believe what they think is right, even though facts suggest otherwise. I've tired of trying to explain him that the "mistake" he's rambling about cannot happen, he just avoids what a reputed translator has to say and throws out his own grammar knowledge.

It's useless trying to talk logically :P

@Foxy:

You don't have to continue if you're getting so mad, take a breather.

And I do think that Oda made an error, he isn't omniscient.

I'm not getting mad, you are being stubborn and maybe thinking that the whole world revolves around English?

Have you not read what CCC posted, do you know better Japanese than CCC? Can you translate the exact Kanji to English? And yet even after CCC said it cannot be a grammatical error you keep repeating it to prove your weak argument. An argument which you continue based on personal beliefs rather than given facts.