how long would it take to reveal Kuma's backstory
any theories on why he sold himself to become an obedient slave ? Like who agrees to that ?
we're talking about a greater sacrifice than Oden's who agreed to accept humiliation for a fixed period, Kuma is permanent !
but what if Kuma makes it to egghead and go to that room and touch that big bubble ? will he restore his real self now he connected with his own memories ?
I don't see any resemblance between Kuzan and a Pheasant unlike the other admirals
at first a thought it was Peasant which sounded much cooler since he's humble and all kinda made sense.
the showcase of Bonney's DF is the best thing in this chapter
She can destroy any object by rewinding time through touching, i think i saw this ability first in Bleach with that orange hair chick
though the distorted future is my favorite technique, i like the paths and stuff
did kuma pulled out his own memories thus became brain dead ? i'm surprised he's stupid enough to obey vegabitch
but it's still unlikely because he showed his true character before marineford
as for the ending, If Oda eventually doesn't give us a rocks flashback and instead shoves it in a movie for money then he would be the absolute worst writer. Red caused enough damage.
"I refuse to accept Strawhat as a Yonko "
Finally someone with a brain speaks up.
Oda hid Judge's eyebrows for years and for what exactly ? I really thought something secretive especially when his helmet was wrecked and it was still hidden like Doffy's eyes after his glasses got smashed but whatever,
This chapter wasn't so kind to those who thought highly of Luffy ( Power Scalers )
Luffy gassed out after a short fight in which he didn't got hit not even once!!
What's he gonna do against a stronger opponent ? take a break mid fight again ?
Poor Buggy took all the heat when he's not the only clown with an emperor title.
they desire it and thus it's brought to their world
question is who grant all these wishes ?
the one truly responsible is the generator behind this unnatural power not the plebs who beg for such abilities.
in other words, the source of the DF shouldn't be human beings, it's just a stupid answer like woah it came outta nowhere just for our sake yay 
i'm glad it's stated as theory because i hope it's not it or at least incomplete.
Now we know what those words said by Teach actually means
but how did he know about it ? Punk had to read the entire library of Ohara to reach this theory, anyways this chapter made me love Teach even more
I didn't expect that Yamato was in her awakening form while fighting Kaido!! Lucci's transformation proved that
is there a break next week or what ? mangaplus didn't say anything
it will be big if the news are true that Oda is going to attend the jeddah book fair in person and probably that's why there is a postpone
speaking of which i hope they ask him about Kaido so we can stop debating whether he awakened or not or is he alive or dead and so on.
we're in the eighth chapter and it feels like the arc is concluding
the most shocking thing was that Atlas did not bleed !! means it's just a robot connected to punk's brain
that goes to the other numbers of punk, if so it doesn't make sense that they need to eat, shit and sleep
they don't bleed = ain't human so why have a human needs ??
anyways I'm excited for Luffy & Lucci reunion, their fight was arguably the best in the series
I just wish luffy don't rush into gear 5 unless it's necessary since it's not my cup of tea.
apparently he woke up to shoot spicy photos then return to death status real quick
dude's a chad even while offscreened.
Well I'm hyped, I don't dislike this arc at all
My guess is that mecha giant was sent to the future to destroy his natural enemies
They're so advanced, i don't think time travel is limited to one person to use, remember the two dragon thing was made possible by someone who's less genius than those old folks
I predict this mecha giant to wake up soon and drop some lore.
Shaka is the only good design outta the six, the others are trash ( design wise )
After York showcase i think it's confirmed that there is no zero version or main body
He really split himself, I wonder how ? No answer would satisfy except a DF effect
Although he set an example which made it confusing a little, I think it's clear that Egghead takes place on the ruins of the prosperous kingdom
I don't know how some people failed to see it this way thinking they are two different islands. Luffy's panel with that ancient mecha giant says it all without the need of reading texts.
He set an example to simplify his words and not to give a different new info.
in the upcoming chapters Vegapunk is going to make a breakdown of the devil fruits and how they work ( Oda promised that )
perhaps he's going to address Teach's uniqueness while he's at it and i won't be surprised if Kuma is in the mix of it after the tease.
realtenchu
I think it's confirmed that Blackbeard has CoC because you can clearly see the visual effects of the CoC in the last two chapters
Don't we have someone who can read Japanese ? I'm sure it's not special people
what a poor translation.
I really don't like the idea of Punk being a revolutionary at all
what kind of a revolutionary that helps the government so much and literally more than anyone else
it's a late join ? still a bad taste imo like how did they even connect when he's so valuable and important to the WG
I'm still upset that they ( RA ) lost their main hideout to a useless squabble which had zero plot progression or benefit.
as for the fight, nothing new really, Oda keeps on disrespecting the yonko again because new generation must look cool or he will go bankrupt i think
not a single quake ability landed on that tattooed rat, and now when it's finally the bad guy's turn to strike back the fight gets cut off!!
this chapter was a big fuck you to BB fans, not to mention most of the crew had no play while their ship is being targeted & damaged
and what about zoro's setting in the back while he should meet with punk instead of those clowns. horrible chapter from top to bottom except for 70 yrs old Luffy i hope he remains in this age a few more chapters .
I would prefer the events to remain in one island however that always end up with skipping everything else outside as if the globe revolves only around the dumb and boring sh crew
Atlas was corrected, There is no need to wait few months for the fix, That is just absurd with how it has been in the past, However Oda did mess up because her design has 6 all over it
It would've been best if he corrected Kaku's panel and swapped the sixth with the fifth, Ha and people calls him a genius lmao.
why would aokiji freeze random citizens ? that's very unlike him
which is why i'm on the other team who says this is gas just like the one caesar used on G5 soldiers
also the cover story is too small to handle an actual appearance of someone on aokiji's caliber.
I really hope Lucci doesn't end up as an ally
he does not fit the good side at all, in fact i would've preferred new cipher pol agents instead of returning ones who already had their time
the cipher pol needs variety and it was denied. from 9 straight to 0 with previous members, meh.
it was an external info yet i don't think Oda would lie about her age
he said 22 then it's 22, i know it crushes theories about her being an old person tricking everyone which is far more exciting plot than seeking revenge for her brain dead dad, but it is what it is. the direction is already made and we're about to get deep into it.
so the official release hasn't fixed the atlas blunder ?
sleepy is an understatement for those guys, bleh
I would've liked this version of Lucci if only Oda hadn't already ruined him back in revere, making him a total ass kisser for saint charlos, disgusting memory.
Ivotas
oh so you're suggesting Vegapunk is quite similar to Orochimaru about switching bodies to reach immortality ? that's funny and i don't think Oda is poor enough to snatch that idea
It's VEGAPUNK so i wanna see something CREATIVE!!
welp i can't demand too much since he already failed to program a cyborg shark, for a man who's 500 years ahead he's not so much ahead i guess.
the longest character reveal in fiction
i started watching weekly 15 years ago
i waited so long just to be gravely disappointed
even if that shit stain ain't him, i can't imagine a worse way to introduce a major character like this!!
enough rant, the island name suggests that the real body is a bald old scientist as the silhouette from Ceasar's flashback
if Oda is going that route, wouldn't it be a contradiction if the world's smartest scientist is unable to fix his baldness ?
anyways just like how Law messed up with the crew using his ability, i wish bonney does the same.
If the world government has one of three ancient weapons then why didn't they try to conquer the other half of the grand line ???
instead they got fucking humiliated by the Shogun to agree selling them weapons !!
what a wild fucking world they got over there, none of it make sense
also if u'r x10 times more powerful than Enel then why don't you rule with fear and temerity instead of hiding like a pus ? is it out of respect to other noble families ? that you hide the truth from them ? why would a shit made dictator give respect and homage to lesser nobles? there must be another reason for the concealment. I'm sure of it.
Oda skipped how Teach and Koby dodged the petrification but my guess is observation haki
it's a different case than Law not moving two yonkos because of their strong haki
because afterwords Teach acknowledged the danger of her powers if he unhanded her, if his strong haki would protect him then he wouldn't be worried if she is lying or not.
This chapter is such a meh
Hype for SSG is gone and as expected it's fucking cloning hence nothing new or creative, it certainly increases the value of king who was defeated in a battle that makes less sense than a flying frog
Oda has no respect whatsoever for the strongest yonko Blackbeard, Rayleigh is too old to frighten all parties involved and save the island
And the other disrespect for BB he needed the help of a puny marine youngster to defeat someone who's supposed to be +60 years old to take over beehive island
Teach shouldn't need the help of anyone to defeat some old fart or be intimidated by another old fart
Coby is so insignificant that Oda skipped his whole fight in the island and as expected he's not a match for a former warlord not along being called a hero like Garp, as anyone could see this narrative is so forced which leaves a bad taste, so bad
Unlike Teach, Hancock has CoC and she was completely useless after losing her ability
Teach's darkness does not nullify Haki at all, Imagine being so helpless for losing your DF while you have a stronger Haki than your opponent
That's what a yonko does, to diminish big names onto embarrassment of incompetence.
I'm truly happy that neither Yamato or Carrot joined in. that's probably the best thing about the ending of Wano
Despite being the longest arc, it's actually very rushed while a lot of stuff didn't need to exist yet was given multiple spotlights which means there are a lot of priority issues that imo had damaged the quality of this arc severely and i got the feeling the same problem will carry on to the next saga ( hopefully not ).
I still think with all Luffy has he would still lose to a fresh Kaido.
It's clear as the sun.
How should a black hole suck in willpower?
Haki is more than willpower, it is a consumable energy that could be launched as an attack force and it does carry a weight hence blocking WB shake wave
The Black hole is supposed to suck/absorb everything
why should Haki be excluded ??
i dunno, calling it "shitty" just feels like a gross overstatement.
it sure had nice moments here and there but overall it's quite bad imo.
The war is over
None of the enemy side has awakened their abilities while being defeated by awakened opponents
Oda does not deserve any praise regarding this shitty war
Looking forward to the aftermath, My tiny humble request is kindly leave Yamato in Wano and while Zunisha is close send that annoying rabbit back to her home
Find the red stone and sail off.
If that punch would be meant to fail, it would've be thrown already.
This battle cannot stretch any longer, it must end.
The arc however, could easily take another 10 chapters for its epilogue.
I don't like rushing things
I wanted to see the full fight of Kaido vs Daimyos
I wanted to see the descendant of Ryuma fights instead i got dirt in my eyes from skipping and rushing meaninglessly.
People talk like it hasn't already been a group effort. Nine Scabbards, five Supernovas, Yamato and (very briefly) Momonosuke have all had a go at him tonight. He's been fighting different individuals and groups nonstop for more than sixty chapters now. Personally, I'm satisfied with the Kaido's toughness relative to his reputation
I feel the same way except there is dissatisfaction on my side regarding the awakening of Kaido is nowhere to be found
And Kaido is not all i care about, I'm quite upset that foes on Katakuri's level were thrown out like trash bags just because they didn't fight Luffy
This will forever damage the quality of this war.
Like last chapter you can see just how tired Kaido getting .
Yeah he going to keep going but at this point both luffy and Kiado end of there rope.
Yeah sure they're at the end of their rope so it doesn't matter
Except only one of them received full medication, proper rest and a month's worth of food to restore energy and power in between rounds
While the other fought four CoC users in a single night with no break til this day
Totally fair and will legitimatize Luffy as the strongest moving forward.
Kaido no longer one shots luffy is because he got weakened and exhausted
Although there is no direct indication but the status of the flame clouds stability are enough for me to use as a proof that he got defeated only after he spent a lot of his stamina and energy fighting numerous strong opponents
Which means in a true 1vs1 duel Kaido is the victor against whomever and this war pretty much proved that.
Kaido's talk about Devil Fruits is the biggest counter-argument to anyone complaining about lack of Awakenings.
Luffy is literally winning via awakening
The other Yonko faced double awakening simultaneously and lead to its fall
These facts diminish anyone who defends Oda for not giving the bad guys in this shitty war an awakening
It's a huge mess up no less.
the battle is two mythical zoans against each other
it's very irrational for the least experienced one to awaken while the other just smiles around about to be defeated
but whatever since oda wants to end this asap.
@K.:
The reason why people question if Kaido is awakened or not is because Momo, whom apparently has a clone of Kaido's fruit, has looked like a dragon while he was a child and an adult now.
that's the key
if someone would claim that Kaido has awakened then how do you explain Momo ?
besides a zoan's awakening includes self healing which is why luffy came back fresh after being almost dead, meanwhile Kaido is really tired he fell on his knee on his own in the previous chapter, his flame clouds are weakened and will collapse soon and that proves he has not healed or recovered since Yamato noticed the island is unstable midair a while ago.
@Joy:
Alright good chapter and it will absolutely bollocks if Kaido doesn’t show awakening in the next chapter. Unless you think his mind and body didn’t catch up to him ability
I mean he flushed out Big Mom without granting her an awakening card
What makes you think he wouldn't do the same to the other Yonko ?
Oda is hella bias and it disgust me and i know some smart ass gonna jump on me and claims i root for the bad guys, no I'm not i just care for the characters receiving a little share of fairness and respect which almost never happened in this war since none of the bad guys awakened
But the prison guards are clearly far more genius and competent than the beast pirates and two yonkos.
Remember when this was a key factor for defeating Kaido ?
a high level fight in one piece requires no physical touching just like Roger vs Whitebeard and Luffy vs Kaido in previous stages
now this chapter 1045 shits on all of that for sake of bland comedy that ruins the atmosphere of a crucial war
Luffy's awakening is the embodiment of ruination. Thanks to that I'm no longer excited for future fights against promising opponents
it's already been spoiled, win via joke.
Hyogoro said Luffy looks like a Guardian Deity, not Sun God Nika himself.
the old yakuza boss has been saying gear 4th resembles an ancient deity of wano, brought it up several times.
what are the odds that this was actually joyboy/sun god/whoever using that form in the past which caused them to create those statues of him?
That's how i feel, the old man was not just mumbling, there is depth behind his words.
There are a couple of fruits that turns the user into mythical humans
There are a couple of fruits that works after dying ( Brook & Enel )
Hyogoro the flower always described luffy upon transformation with the sun kami
Oden talked about the JoyBoy to reappear in the future
The bink's sake lyrics
this whole thing has been already foreshadowed on every aspect long before the Gorosei or Who'sWho said a thing so maybe some fellas needs to calm down a little?
A lot of complains regarding a possible personality change to Luffy
Why no one questioned the case of Cavendish/Hakuba ? It's still out there with zero explanation to date!
In fact i would love to see a personality change, Luffy has been officially defeated in the war so it's time for the other side of the coin to flip and witness the beginning of the end to the story, if not now then when ? Kaido is the strongest in the world, all other enemies are levels below him so it's definitely the perfect time for this reveal combined with the liberation of Wano it couldn't get any better than this.
So it's either Mythical or special paramecia like Kata
99% it's mythical human zoan like Sengoku & Onimaru
Zunisha's words does not give clue that it's just rubber got awakened, it's a lot more than that
anyway I want Who'sWho to get the fuck up and see the actual size of his mistake.
So in this case, "They don't need to be calledthe Strong Samurai" or "The Stubborn Samurai". If they keep getting beaten it doesn't matter what you call them because it's meaningless. So, what are you Luffy? Are you actually strong or just calling yourself tough?
Thanks a lot mate.
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1042 was such a banger, if anyone read the spoilers you missed a lot
I never thought the agent dunderhead would actually pull it off
I can't help but to think of that mink doctor injection especially that Marco is available for flying assistance, plus blue flames heal ?
Now the question what to do with Kaido ? Sure he will smack that agent to oblivion
I'm just not sure what comes afterwards, we need someone to help Luffy and a group to hold Kaido.
It seems to me the story is shaping into Shanks Aizening everything and everything since chapter 1
If Shanks turned into similar Aizen type of story I'd be very mad at Oda
It's not even initiated well as Luffy ate it by accident and the whole crew was in shock and distress including their captain who also wasn't initiated to steal it, it was Rakki ru who did it.
The Gorosei Knew about Luffy ever since he beat Crocodile which is pretty much since the start
It will feel odd to me that after all his crimes as a notorious pirate he suddenly becomes more important to capture than Robin just because of his devil fruit
It feels like Luffy never used it til now for them to act that way!!
You knew +2 years ago he had that bullshit rubber fruit so why act surprised now?
It makes no sense to me, especially if it goes as predicted
" the rubber rubber is not even its real name '' yeah i will never buy that shit.
weird how it hypes up some people.
I will remain in good faith and hope they're talking about something else, you know something that makes sense and actually exciting.
@Cyan:
Still the Pirate King?
fight wise
trust me it's nothing else.
You know what Roger is without haki ?
some pirate named Roger with long nose hair
how on god would he be on par with WB without haki ?
When i said BM should've used her haki on her final fight i was simply right ( No observation + No CoC coating )
Her monstrous son didn't use his DF and forgot about the haki, he mixed them both as he should and do so he did
It's only logical to expect nothing but higher standards from the captain of Katakuri but it wasn't and I'm upset because she's a Yonko
Whatever, it's a spilled milk now.
Another layer of humour to the bias accusation is that you reveal biases of your own when you say Law was "literally knocked unconscious by pistol shots." The way I remember that scene was the gunfire being the final blow on an already-injured Law after he faced a Doflamingo and Fujitora tag team followed by 1v1 with just Doflamingo with no time to recharge or prepare. Law was knocked out by bullets about as much as Whitebeard was killed by them. They were a factor, sure, but they weren't the whole story, and no one would pretend that they were unless there was something to gain from leaving the rest out.
I would like to remind you that Law was blasted by a thunder bagua minutes before his final fight started
He came in already injured from the roof battle, yet him and Kidd displayed some ridiculous endurance against Big Mom which honestly makes poor sense.
You come from the point of view that Haki is the ultimate power system in OP, when that's not true.
Characters can approach power through different means according to their own predispositions, tools and talents. Haki is only one of these.
Haki is in the highlight because it's the main path Oda chose for Luffy for us to clearly see his development as he masters advanced forms of observation, armament and conqueror's haki. It's not like Oda could come up with a new Gear whenever Luffy needed a powerup, so Haki was an excellent tool to balance power levels with the other power systems in One Piece, mainly devil fruits (but also technology, natural strength, supergenes, crazy techniques, etc).
Some top tiers are masters in one of the colors of Haki, like Kaido with Conqueror's and Katakuri with Observation, but some other characters are not masters in any of these forms despite being quite powerful for other reasons.
Before their alliance, the two Yonkos fought each other fiercely
Big Mom was relying almost completely on her CoC Haki infused onto her sword leading the sky to split in half
She didn't hesitate to use her strongest weapon on her arsenal to fight Kaido and was able to force him to give up on killing her as he stated
despite having youth advantage Kaido was unable to defeat a serious & fed up Big Mom
Now let's go back to her final fight where she used that technique zero times against the good guys
I hope you caught a glimpse of why I'm criticizing.
Not to mention that Big Mom remains undefeated in her own arc.
Yeah she was undefeated at her own arc
She was also poorly humiliated by that eating disorder bullshit
She got shit on by Jimbe a lot on that arc and it's not much different that the motorcycle thing, different arcs but same outcome : our beloved mc's shitting on a yonko yay
Who cares about Whitebeard's standards or Majesty, our mc's comes first and more importantly than anything else, definitely not gonna make anyone puke with that writing.
@hideoushorrendous, what doyou think about the complete chapter of Kaidou being drunk ? Was Oda also riduculing an emperor during a fight ?
For me, Mum was a terrible opponent and if anything she was not the one poorly displayed in this fight. I'm more annoyed by the obvious plot armor Kid and Law are getting or the uselessness of their crew.
It was fun
terrible opponent ?
remember when Luffy promised to take them all down and now that promise is no more after the last chapter ?
Yeah somehow I remember that and find it odd now.
When Big Mom punched Page One, you can definetely see the CoC-coating aesthetic of Luffy and Kaido's attacks.
She never used it again though.
And I don't actually care.
Her final fight is what matters, and I do care about it greatly.
I'm curious, do the people who think this way read any stories that aren't shonen manga? The accusation of bias is pretty funny. It's a narrative, not a sports league, and Oda's an author, not an umpire - of course he favours the characters he created and wrote to be the heroes.
There certainly are stories that will let the villains win in major ways if they have the better plan or truly unstoppable powers, but those kinds of stories tend to have far different tones and themes to One Piece.
My point is that Big Mom has a very important role in the story as one of four greatest pirates
It will never make sense to me that a warlord or a ''sea trash'' like Doflamingo received a much better treatment and overall appearance than Big Mom
Name me one time Doflamingo got humiliated other than Law rejecting his offer to do the surgery
Doflamingo managed to beat 2 supernovas at once while the freaking protagonist is included!!
What happened to Big Mom was unfortunate, Making her very stupid and embarrassed over and over was not a good look on every aspect.
She did use CoC attacks, though. Chapter 1024 confirmed it, even thought it was offscreen.
And I'm not sure how CoO would've helped Big Mom? That final attack, she deliberately took it head on to prove she could withstand it.
Fair fight? It was literally 2 vs. 1.
The fight was never going to be fair.
I don't argue whether she used CoC or not, I'm talking about she can infuse her royal haki onto her attacks just like Kaido does all the time but was never allowed to
all we saw was the aura and it's not that
what i meant by fairness is : give her all her weapons to unleash including all types of haki then take her down
if that's the case then 2 supernova don't stand a chance, but Oda pushed it to be so resulting to a meh fight where she just kept using useless homies all the time and not fight like a true emperor like Kaido where he is always superior just because he's the main antagonist of Wano
Plus Law acquiring Corazon's DF outta no where was also a let down, everything doesn't have to make sense anymore
and i find that pathetic.