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Japanese Hank Hill: Well I be darn. My boy, a ninja.

(Bobby shows up with a headband)

Japanese Bobby Hill: Look I'm already in my ninja outfit.

Japanese Hank Hill: But Japanese Bobby, those are your normal cloths but with your Gosh darn Nardo headband.

Japanese Bobby Hill: But that's my ninja outfit, and for your information it's Naruto.

Japanese Hank Hill: Dang it Japanese Bobby, I thought I told you to stay away from that crap. It's a terrible "interpretation" of our culture. Just for disobeying me, I am grounding you.

Japanese Bobby Hill: But dad, me and Japanese Joseph were going to play Bleach.

Japanese Hank Hill: Dang it Japanese Bobby, I thought I told you to stay away from that too.

@RobbyBevard:

Not again. That was such a pain LAST time that happened.

Do you have any idea how long it took to get all those Bedfart stains out of the carpet?

Well actually Robbie Beyard is an English name Viz Media gave RobbyBeyard. Just like how Vegetto was called Vegerot. Take note that Cyan D. Funk was called Cyan D.Funk. People need to stop kissing Viz Media's asses like they're 100% accurate to its source material and that it overrides anime.

This is how I think the final battle in Naruto Shippuden should start. What do you think?

Cyan D.Funk just got the crap beat out of him by Naruto Shippuden, to the point he could barely move. Shorty after, Robbie Beyard arrives. Cyan D.Funk tells Naruto Shippuden that he is now facing a Super Saiyan and laughs at him about it. Naruto Shippuden then pierces his heart with this chi beam that came out of his finger, and compared his blabbering to a broken record in that evil granny voice trying to sound like a man. Miraculously, Cyan D.Funk had a few minutes left to give his speech to Robbie Beyard. This was Cyan D.Funk's final moment.

Cyan D.Funk (Barely can talk): Robbie, listen to me. Don't be so soft. There is no stinking honor in any of this. It's just a game. Play to win. There are no rules. You have to get over your soft heartiness.You have to do it. Forget about your feelings. You have to. They'll get you killed. They'll get you killed Robbie.

Robbie Beyard: I can't. I can't change who I am. Not on the battlefield. My feelings are my guide. Besides everyone deserves a chance to change their ways. Just like you had.

Cyan D.Funk: Fool! You don't know what you're dealing with.

(Cyan D.Funk has this nice long flashback)

Cyan D.Funk: No, there's more. He killed our home planet. It was him.

Naruto Shippuden (In an evil granny voice trying to sound manly): He's just a corpse, and he's still blabbing. I'll have to gag him to shut him up.

Cyan D.Funk (At some point he starts shedding tears): Your father, and mine. The whole planet. He blew it up. It's true. No one survived but us. Ask him if you want. He'll tell you. He's too proud of it.

Robbie Beyard: Please stop talking Cyan! It's sapping all of your strength.

Cyan D.Funk: No. Listen. You have to hear this. We worked so hard for him. We did everything he asked us for. He took me from my father when I was just a little boy. He made me do whatever he wanted and said he would kill my father if I didn't. I did everything he asked, bu he killed him anyway. Along with everyone else. He was scared of us. Scared a Super Saiyan will be born someday, and rise up to over throw him.

Naruto Shippuden: A touching story.

Robbie Beyard: Please, no more. Save your strength.

Cyan D.Funk: Robbie, please destroy Naruto Shippuden. He made me what I am. Don't let him do it to anyone else. Whatever it takes, stop him. Please.

(Cyan D.Funk finally dies)

So when will Nardo fight Madara and bring Sasuke back?

I don't get the DBSD hate, it's supposed to be a joke manga.

You make a really good point Kaoru. You've found stuff I haven't even noticed. I never caught the whole Luffy wanting to have his own freedom. Though, personally it's been long since I've seen it. But I still remember it greatly.

I am not really asking this question, this is just the tile of this thread. People complain about how the fact that Luffy saves villages kills his purpose as a pirate. Pirates usually tear villages up. Luffy on the other hand does the complete opposite.

Now here is the thing about Luffy. Luffy does not save villages because "Oh, I'm a super hero pirate believe it!", no, that is just dumb. He saves villages because of various reasons. One of which is that he befriends someone there. He didn't foil Crocodile's plan because it was the right thing to do, no. He did that because Alabasta is important to his friend, Vivi. Same reason why he freed Cocoyashi Village from Arlong, and his crew. It usually has nothing to do with him wanting to save people. Most of the time, Luffy just wants to help a friend out. Or sometimes some pirate in that village is starting shit (You would have to do a hell a lot more than what Bellamy did, besides him stealing his friend's gold) with him like Buggy.

In conclusion, Luffy only saves villages if it is to help a friend. Other than that, he would just hang around just to eat. He usually wouldn't have a care in the world about it, other than getting food. Luffy's main flaw as a pirate is that he's way too nice and very honorable. Besides, he stole gold. Luffy's a pirate, just not a violent one like most are. He only saves villages if it is to help a friend, not because they're evil and must pay for their sins. Had Arlong not hurt Nami to the point of her crying, he wouldn't care about the fishman unless of course they got in his way.

Morgan arc
-Luffy befriended Coby. He stuck up for him, especially since he was able to stand up for himself. That's why took out Alvida.
-Luffy really wanted Zoro and for Coby to be in the marines. Captain Morgan simply got in his way. Also, Luffy hates it a lot when someone breaks his promise.

Buggy arc
-It mainly began with Buggy abducting Luffy and having to save him. Later it became about Luffy wanting Nami to join his crew, and to get rid of Buggy for the mayor that he just became friends with during the attack of one of his main henchmen, Mohji.

Kuro arc
-Luffy wanted Ussop to be on his crew, and became good friends with him. Him whooping Kuro's ass is because that village meant a lot to Ussop.

Baratie arc
-Luffy at first wanted to just apologize about an attack he didn't mean. He would never want to hurt other people not involved. It's dishonoring in him.
-The whole Don Kreig business was because Luffy wanted to be free from being a chore boy, and that the restaurant meant a lot to Sanji. Besides, even if that wasn't the case, he still would if Don Kreig got in his way.

Arlong arc
-All Luffy really wanted was for Nami to join him again. It was when Luffy saw Nami crying because of Arlong was when he actually had a beef with him.

Logue Town arc
-No real main antagonist, besides Captain Smoker. He got in Luffy's way. Luffy was no match for him and got lucky.

Laboon/Whiskey Peak/Little Garden arc
-Nothing to see here, all it is, is Luffy and his crew getting into some shit with Baroque Works. All it becomes is Luffy trying to save Alabasta for Vivi.

Drum Island arc
-Luffy didn't want trouble there, just for Nami to get better. Plus he built a good relationship with the people there, especially Tony Tony Chopper. So he freed them of Wapol. You know what, Wapol was getting in their way.

Alabasta arc
-Luffy finally reaches his goal since the Whiskey Peak arc. He wanted to stop a meaningless war for the sake of Vivi.

Jaya arc
-Luffy didn't even give a damn about Bellamy because he wasn't a threat. He only kicked his ass when he took his friends gold.

That's all of the arcs I will be listing. Any corrections on any of my points would be fine.

Bardock's got a much better voice now.

@Nobodyman:

Well, the first villains were Soul Society. After that was Aizen who just wanted to take over the world (of course!) rather than get revenge. As for Ginjou though, yeah.

And it also applies to the movies.

Correction, the first villains were Aizen, Gin, Kaname and his arrancars. Soul Society is the first antagonists, with Byakuya being the arc antagonist.

Could Tobi actually be Aizen? I mean, he could have tricked Ichigo into thinking he won when really he never did and was in another series the whole time.

Goku=Naruto
Yamcha=Sakura, Kiba, Choiji
Kuririn=Shikamaru
Tenshinhan=Neji
Chaozu=Shino, Hinata, Tenten, Ino
Piccolo=Rock Lee
Vegeta=Sasuke

Arc 1: Intro arc to this Naruto shit. We get his first "nakamas" Sasuke and Sakura. Oh and theres the bad ass mentor Kakashi.
Arc 2: They fight the first main villain Zabuza and his minions, Haku, Gozu, and Meizu. Gato and his two swordsman are sub villains.
Arc 3: A tournament arc, also the first arc where Orochimaru is the main villain. The henchmen they'll be fighting here are Dosu, Zaku, and Kin. We are introduced to more "nakamas" such as Kiba, Shino, Hinata, Neji, Rock Lee, Tenten, Shikamaru, Choiji, and Ino. Aswell as Gaara, Kankuro, and Temari.
Arc 4: Turns out Gaara is the boss (Like how Tenshinhan was the boss of the Tenkaichi Budokai 22 arc from Dragon Ball). Plus Orochimaru is the main villain and is doing that invasion shit screwing the tournament up. Naruto and Gaara still fight. Spoiler alert, Orochimaru kills the third hokage.
Arc 5: Two of the Akatsuki's, Itachi and Kisame show up. But they're not the main villains. Orochimaru still is, but he's taking a break.
Arc 6: Orochimaru is still the main villain. Tsunade becomes the fifth hokage. The henchmen of who's in this arc is Kabuto who was introduced way back in Arc 3. Orochimaru gets his ass handed to him by Tsunade, but he is still the main villain after that. Kabuto gets his ass handed to him by Naruto, but will still play an important role in the story.
Arc 7: The first filler arc. Can't remember what it's about. The main villain in this arc is a filler villain, so he doesn't count.
Arc 8: Orochimaru is still the main villain, and the henchmen he unleashes on our heroes are Jirobo, Kidomaru, Tayuya, Sakon/Ukon, and Kimimaro. Sasuke makes Naruto butthurt by leaving the team. Kiba, Neji, Rock Lee, Shikamaru, Choiji and aswell as their allies Gaara, Kankuro, and Temari are the only ones fighting. Sasuke owns Naruto. Orochimaru is still the main villain and Kabuto is alive and well while being Orochimaru's bitch boy.
Arc 9-Insert that overused unfunny DBZ dubbed line quote about Vegeta getting pissed out squishing his scouter: You get this filler shit off of my internet. Oh and the villains in each of those arcs are whoever the fuck they're dealing with. They're filler villain, so fuck them.

Naruto Shippuden
Arc 1: Fuck me I quit.

Oh, and didn't Orochimaru and Naruto have some showdown where it's a tie, yet although Orochimaru still lives he isn't the main villain, just still lives and gets killed off anyways by Sasuke?

There would be no point of re-dubbing the Majin Boo arc. FUNimation's goal was to release the Japanese version with English subtitles and the regular English dub that replaces Nathan Johnson/Bruce Faulconer with the Japanese music. It isn't just the Majin Boo arc with incorrect dialogue, it's the whole dub in general. Especially when they first started.

Here are the Boo's.

Boohan > Bootenks > Kid Boo > South Booshin > Boocollo > Super Boo > Dai Booshin (Evil) > Dai Booshin (Good)

Here are the heroes.

SS3 Goku > Gohan > SS3 Gotenks > SS2 Vegeta (Majin)

Like I said, Goku only feared Super Boo for the fear of still being tiny. Vegeta said that Goku was the only one who could fight Kid Boo. If Gohan was truly stronger, then Vegeta would have gotten him from heaven.

In the past, I've said Kid Boo was weaker than even the likes of Dai Booshin (Fat Boo). Now, I say Kid Boo is the THIRD strongest Majin Boo.

So it has been stated that Kaioshins don't work with Majin Boo. Infact, when Kid Boo absorbed a Kaioshin he got weaker. So this automatically makes South Booshin and Dai Booshin inferior to Kid Boo.

Now, Dai Booshin simply developed a second personality, which is the good Majin Boo. The original personality is now within him as Dai Booshin (Evil). When he was released from his own body, he took most of the powers Dai Booshin (Good) originally had. So really, the Z-Fighters and the Kaioshins were fighting Dai Booshin (Good) with the combined powers of Dai Booshin (Evil). Dai Booshin (Evil) may have not hits from Dai Booshin (Good), whereas Kid Boo actually did. That's because Kid Boo was TOYING. Proof is the fact that Goku stated he could have beaten Dai Booshin as a Super Saiyan 3, but didn't because he wanted the next generation to handle it. He also said "A stronger warrior will appear!" to keep Majin Boo excited. So he admitted he was capable of taking a the combined powers of Dai Booshin (Good) and Dai Booshin (Evil). Yet when fighting Kid Boo, he was barely even with him. In fact, Kid Boo could have also been possibly toying with him as well. So therefore Kid Buu > or = Super Saiyan 3 Goku > Dai Booshin (Good) + Dai Booshin (Evil).

Kid Boo is Majin Boo's base form with NO absorptions, Super Boo is Majin Boo WITH absorptions. When Dai Booshin (Evil) ate a chocolate turned Dai Booshin (Good), he got his own body back or the same type back. Dai Booshin (Good) is no longer needed in keeping his body, just his form due to the absorbed warriors via Dai Booshin (Good). Dai Booshin (Good) still works with Majin Boo (Evil), just as long as he has him absorbed and set up. Since Dai Booshin (Good) has two Kaioshin's inside of him, Super Boo is still weaker than Kid Boo. The reason why Goku was fearing Super Boo was because he was scared he would be capable of squashing him like a bug. He had no idea he would be larger again. If Super Boo and Gohan were truly stronger than Goku and Vegeta, then Goku and Vegeta would of held off Super Boo while they wait for Gohan to wake up. They're not pussies. Super Boo proves my point further when Goku tries to blast a hole in him, only for there to be no results and his reply being "That stung a bit."

Now Bootenks and Boohan are definitely stronger than Kid Boo. But Boocollo is still weaker than Kid Boo. Goku came to fuse with Gohan to take Bootenks, but when he became Boocollo, he was saying that Gohan no longer needs his help.

Power levels became irrelevant after the Namek arc, besides the Freeza's revenge bit at the beginning of the Android arc. Kid Boo's powers were masked. The whole time they were judging by appearance. They were laughing at his size. They thought that now that Majin Boo no longer has absorbed warriors, he would be weaker, right? Nope, they were wrong. Kid Boo was owning their asses especially Vegeta's. That muscular form of Majin Boo is NOT South Booshin as South Kaioshin is inside Dai Booshin (Good).

So I just

So I proved that Kid Boo is the THIRD strongest Majin Boo and the strongest NON Z-Fighter absorbed Boo. I also proved that it was never proven that a Super Saiyan 3 Goku is weaker than Gohan or a Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks.

Just FYI, Akira Toriyama never said Gohan was the strongest non fused character. He also never wanted to end the Majin Boo arc with Gohan as the hero. Here's why, Majin Boo was created simply for the fact that Akira felt Gohan was unsuited for the role as the hero. All of that is either from a fake magazine, or fan made up bull shit.

A lot of credit goes to Princeofsaiyajins456 and Dragonballfights.

Off topic about Spandam being the main antagonist of the Water 7 and Enies Lobby arc for a moment. Things like this where the main antagonist is not the leader of whatever group they're apart of has happened before in Shonen series. In Dragon Ball, when we're in the Andriod arc, the antagonist are #20-16 plus Cell who acts as the unofficial #21 despite not being mechanical in anyway. Now Cell is NOT the leader of that group. It was #20 who was the leader. It was #20 who was the mastermind behind everything. But he isn't the main antagonist, it was Cell that was. He was the one that was the main threat to them. The one they all focused on. Same can be said about Babidi, his minions (including Spopovich and Yamu) and Majin Buu. In Bleach, back when the Gotei 13 (saved for Aizen, Gin, and Kaname for the next part) were the antagonist, the old guy with the flaming sword (who's name escapes my head at this moment) though I wouldn't go as far as to say he's the mastermind behind the conflict, he was the leader of Gotei 13. Now he wasn't the main antagonist, it was Byakuya who was the main antagonist to Ichigo. Sorry if I'm going off topic, I just wanted to voice my opinion on why Spandam being the leader of the villain group and mastermind doesn't make him the main antagonist.

The only time I think a dub does better is Dragon Ball Z. Even Dragon Ball Z Kai as bad as that dub is. They all sound like little girls, and the music sounds like it's from the 80's. It fits Dragon Ball since it's about comedy, while Dragon Ball Z is all about action pack. Also, they cut out alot of the filler material from the Saiyan Saga without being fast pace. Bardock's death in the English version is far more epic with that music playing in the background. The one in the Japanese makes me think of creepy places with candles and people dying.

@RobbyBevard:

Totally appropriate for Family Guy. They should do a Family Guy 3 part episode that remakes that movie. No one would know the difference in its usual style.

Fairly Oddparents is more like this. AJ's family could make things that Dexter could when originally he was genious, Chester's family went from poor to being ghetto, Sonji family lives in a military tent, and Vicky went from a douchbag babysitter to some girl that her family is afraid off and even Tootie's crush on Timmy is over exaggerated. Also Jorgan is no longer a badass because he is now some joke about girly musclar man and Cosmo is a girly sounding dumbass. Serously, what they did with Fairly Oddparents makes me want to make a late Spax3 (no offense to him) about how they completely fucked up their characters.

This makes Family Guy look sane. Atleast Cleveland doesn't live in the ghettos, atleast Joe's house isn't a police operation, atleast Quaqmire's house isn't a strip club, atleast Mort doesn't live in what is supposed to be a sterotypical Jewish house. But yeah, they still fucked up the characters from Family Guy. Also, in The Cleveland Show, notice how they made Cleveland Jr. from some ADHD kid to some low-self bed wetting 14 year old just so he can fill in Chris's role with the Meg type character and the Stewie type character. All he needs is a dog that that rather doing dogs, does real women making them what you call it?

Robbybeyard, thank's for correcting me on the whole writers thing. Speaking of writers, what Seth Macfarlane and Butch Hartman have in common is that they hire terrible writers for their shows. Dear lord, the Fairy OddParents as of today reminds me of that movie the Nostalgia Critic reviewed where some kid tries to live with other families, and one of them had Kathy Bates living in a blizzard. Writers like that need to be fired.

I thought Doomsday was where the adventures of Jason, Zack, Billy, Trini, and Kimberly (shame Tommy lost his powers, much more sad in Zyuranger when his counterpart dies instead) should have ended like they were going too. During those moments, Mighty Morphin Power Rangers was very faithful to Koryu Sentai Zyuranger. Sure their arsenals differed by the fact that in Zyuranger, the "Battle Bikes" and the thunder slingers (they could even combine these with their blade blasters) were in their main arsenals, while in Mighty Morphin, their battle bikes were just in the background and the "Thunder Slingers" were just another plot device that is used to defeat a group of super putties. Also lets not forget how they would be missing one monster. But other than that, Doomsday is a better place to end Jason, Zack, Billy, Trini, and Kimberly's adventures. Bandora's son was even gonig to have a counterpart named Bubba, who is just going to be monster of the week.

Didn't the whole battle power thing got dropped after the Namek Arc and it was only the dub that mentions it?

I swear, their view on the whole religous nut jobs back in the first two are completely different from what it is now. In the older ones, the only person you would see that acts like a religous nut job is Peter's dad, while people such as the Pople would act as the good side of their religion. Showing that Seth's aware of the fact that there will be good Christians, and there will be bad Christians. Now, in the show, if you're a Christian, you're automatically retarded.

http://www.rovang.org/sentai/index.htm

Just about a dead on Super Sentai conversion to Power Rangers. Note that this was never complete and only went up to Hurricanger-Ninja Storm (which they barely started on). Though there are some things I would fix. The conversion of Kakuranger-MMPR season 3. It would be like this.
Ninja Red=Red Ranger/Red Alien Ranger
Ninja Black=Black Ranger/Black Alien Ranger
Ninja Blue=Blue Ranger/Blue Alien Ranger
Ninja Yellow=Yellow Ranger/Yellow Alien Ranger
Ninja White=Pink Ranger/White Alien Ranger
NA=White Ranger

@Hawkolf:

That's a matter of an opinion. I never liked Stewie as "Going to take over the world, evil baby genius". He was funny few times but that's it. Walking gay stereotype is funnier to me, then again "I Now Pronounce You Chuck & Larry" is one of my favorite movies.

I don't like it when shows take characters and make them into something they're not. Stewie wasn't meant to be a walking gay joke, he was meant to be an evil baby genius that wants to kill his mother. If they wanted a gay baby, why not make a new character?

When I think of the "Straw Hats" of Dragon Ball, I think of Goku, Yamcha, Kuririn, Tenshinhan, Chaozu, Piccolo, Gohan, Vegeta, Trunks, and Goten. Future Trunks is more like their Vivi, sort of.

Also, could someone organize the Red Ribbon Army for me. It's mindfuck. This is all I can do.
Commander Red
Assistant Black
General Copper
-Colonel Silver
-Colonel Violent
-Colonel Yellow
General White
-Sergent Metallic (That's not even a fucking color)
-Sergent Purple
-Buyon (Is that even a color?)
General Blue
-Captain Dark (Someone needs to correct me on this)
Hired People
-Tao Pai Pai
-Hasky
#20
-#19-#16 (those, and #20 are another villain group that has something to do with this)
-#15-#13 (those are another villain group from a non canon movie, though I remember reading some manga scan about them)
-#12-#9
-#8 (One of the only ones that we get to see)
-#7-#1

If I made a mistake on some of these, please correct me.

@RobbyBevard:

And then he must understand why Yamcha is the best character, in spite of basically being fodder.

Chaozu is better.

The newer Family Guy episodes makes as much sense as Bobobo Bobo Bobo on crack.

Also, has anyone seen Seth Macfarlanes Comedy Calvade. That is some of the most unfunniest things that I have ever seen. What really didn't make me laugh was the one where the kid learns he was adopted. Wasn't that the most unfunniest thing you have ever seen? Kid learns he was from another family because he doesn't have pointy tits. While the step parents last names are something about pointy tits (because you know, they have pointy tits, get it?), the kid learns that his middle name is something along the lines of Horse Feet Turd Sneeze, and then he sneezes turd out of his nose and it walks away with horse feet. That is some unfunny shit right there, literally.

The Cleveland is downright awful. That recent Family Guy Christmas special has got nothing on the original one where Louis goes apeshit when her family doesn't the meaning of Christmas. Stewie from the older episodes and Stewie from the newer episodes are two completely different characters, I swear they are.

@taboo:

all adult swim shows>futurama>ugly americans>everything else

No offense Taboo, but you must be on crack if you think Tom Goes to the Mayor is a better show than Futurama.

The Namek Arc would of been an epic ending with giving us fans the decision to weather or not Goku lived, and have the credits be similar to Mega Man Zero 4 where Ciel is watching the night sky wondering if Zero is alive with sad music playing in the background. They could do that for Gohan.

Speaking of remembering characters, does anyone know what happened to the demon brothers? You know Gouzu and Meizu. Two of Zabuza's minions that aren't Haku. Zabuza as in the first main villain. A main villain from part one that isn't Orochimaru.

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I just love this song so much.

Hikari No Tabi English Remake
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Those lyrics are perfect for the ending of that Bardock special.

Hikari No Tabi (Christian Weston Chandler Version)
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I'm trying to capture the sadness of a person who had potentional from birth but got wasted as he ages to the point that he has no potentional.

So the main people of Naruto are Naruto, Sasuk… you know what fuck Sasuke, fuck that emo pussy so Sai, Sakura, Shikamaru, Choiji, Ino, Kiba, Shino, Hinata, Neji, Rock Lee, TenTen (yes Tenten, bite me), Gaara, Kankuro, and Temari? People like Kakashi and Gai are like mentors, you know like how Master Roshi and Urahara are in their respective shows?

http://superpie190.webs.com/

This is the kind of website I want to make. Cleary this isn't complete, because I barely got started on this.

I think I know a track that might make dubbies and people that like the dub that are actually cool fall in love with.

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I love how this theme captured the mood of Bardock and everyone on planet Vegeta dying.

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I love the credit theme. Sure I may not know Japanese and this doesn't even have English subs, but it gives off that feel that Bardock will never be apart of Goku's life.

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Bardock's Japanese voice in my opinion doesn't fit him. I know for Goku they wanted to capture that child in a man's body feel, but Bardock was nothing like that. He was more like Raditz, Nappa, and Vegeta as well as the other saiyans. The only thing redeeming about Bardock is that he actually cares about his crew. I think Raditz's Japanese voice would be more fitting. You got Raditz and Goku's father who looks like Goku and sounds like Raditz. Like I said, I do hate the dub dialogue that tries to soften Bardock's character.

@dan2026:

Hardly.
There was a lot of gags, true.
But early Dragon Ball had three whole tournament arcs, plus the fighting against Piccolo Daimao and his men. And Baba's mini fighting area stuff.

There was a lot of fighting in early Dragon Ball, is basically what I am saying.

I think he was joking. Also, you forgot the Red Ribbon Army arc.

@Tsukento:

The problems I had with the dub music was that there was too much focus on trying to make everything into a theme, rather than having music that helps convey the moods of scenes. Because of that, it kinda screwed with the view of the audience that grew up with the dub and caused some of them to look down on the Japanese music for being "boring" and "less hyped."

The second problem I have comes from how exactly the dub music was made; it's all synthetic, whereas the original used a good chunk of actual instruments and various methods to play the music out. This gives the music range, so you end up hearing something like a violin during a sad scene or an actual piano, as opposed to hearing a keyboard and electric guitar only.

I guess a good example would be to show the "theme" the Japanese went for Majin Boo saga that was used:

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There's obviously a guitar there, but there's also drums and violins playing that full aid the entire song in their own way that compliments the entire song.

Also, the dub didn't have an organ.
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Funny how dubbies will claim the Japanese music sounds outdated, when the show itself was made in the early nineties.

Didn't Bruce Faulconer have some tracks that used real instruments. I swear the track that got a GBA remixed for the boss theme of DBZ Legacy of Goku II used a piano.

Now here is Vegeta's death in the English dub.

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What is your guy's opinions?

@SemiJuggalo:

Late reply, I know (haven't been on AP in a couple of days).

Anyway, I know that both shows have the same composers, but the score for that particular movie felt more like DB than DBZ, IMO.

Dragon Ball Z is still technically the same show as Dragon Ball. Much like how Naruto Shippuden is the same show as Naruto. I would rather have that classic Dragon Ball feel when watching Dragon Ball Z than that hard core feel. When I heard the Japanese music, I thought it sounded a hell lot like Dragon Ball.

Though I do like Bruce Faulconer's score. Unfortunetly they didn't get him back for the first 67 episode redub, instead they just got Nathan Johnson. Nathan Johnson is alright, better than Mark Menza (the guy that did all of Dragon Ball GT including the special and some of the DBZ movies). Nathan Johnson and Mark Menza (especially Mark Menza) score treats the series like it is meant to be all serious. Bruce Faulconer score on the other hand still aknowledges that the series isn't series buisness.

Now here is a list of my favorite Bruce Faulconer tracks in no order.
-Super Buu's Theme
-Kid Buu's Theme
-All of Cell's Themes
-Pikkon's Theme
-Super Saiyan 3 Theme
-All of Vegeta's Themes
-The Ginyu Force's Theme (It actually captures that despite how tough these guys are, they're still comic relief)
-That one them that played when Gohan became a Super Saiyan 2 (not as dramatic as Spirit VS. Spirit, but still a nice theme)

@RPGJay:

I'm fairly certain it was his editor and not the Japanese government that forced him to keep writing Dragon Ball.

If I remember right, that editor was a real bitch during the Cell saga too.

If I was Toriyama, I would tell the editor to fuck off.

As for Future Trunks being a shitty character, he is a hell lot better than Present Trunks.

I think the Dragon Ball series ended where it needed to end. Personally I would of liked it if the series ended with the Namek Arc. Out of any arc in all of Dragon Ball, the Namek Arc was the one that felt the most climatic. Atleast after that, we still get good characters in the Android Arc such as Trunks, 17, 18, Cell, etc. The Majin Buu Arc, there is something that bugs me about kids being able to go Super Saiyan without trying. This is almost like a middle finger to everyone who worked hard to become one. Also, the Super Saiyan 3 transformation has got nothing on when Goku first became a Super Saiyan nor when Gohan first became a Super Saiyan 2. It was just a waste of time. Now Majin Buu can be a very confusing villain. His fat form was hilarous, his evil form didn't get enough screen time, his super form (aswell as Gotenks, Piccolo, and Gohan) was the best form, and his kid form felt like some autistic kid that has an unlimited energy and is having a temper tantrum.

I hate the whole lets have Vegeta, Piccolo or hell even Yamcha, and while I'm at it why not Chaozu should beat a main villain. Why do some of the fans think Vegeta or Piccolo should beat a main villain? To be honest, that should be the main characters job in a Shonen anime. Now Gohan was a different case. It was like as if Goku passed the torch on to him to become the next hero. To have the main character from this Shonen anime to take over as the main hero. I wouldn't mind if Vegeta and Piccolo went up against lackie type villains such as Android 17, Pui Pui, Dodoria, etc.

The arc that I despise the most in Dragon Ball GT is the Hell Fighter 17 Arc. Sure the villain is cool, but the plot sucked. I hate the whole arc being based around a plot hole that was in the fillers of Dragon Ball Z. When people died, they don't keep their bodies. They just become spirits. Also, why Toei makes hell look all fun is beyond me. But that's beside the point. Goku and the other Z Fighters were on special occasions. Goku kept his body because they rewarded him for sacrificing his life to save "his" planet. Correct me if I'm wrong, but once a year has passed, their body will just disappear and get reincarnated as another person. this would explain the one year wish rule. Also that arc was just nothing but insults to the passed villains that were involved in a plot far superior to that of anything Dragon Ball GT was made up with. Freeza and Cell were treated in vain in this arc.

@Tsukento:

Masako Nozawa sounds nothing like Mayumi Tanaka. :s

But her Goku voice makes me think of Japanese Luffy.

My favorite scene from Dragon Ball. Goku's Japanese voice reminds me of Luffy's Japanese voice.

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@SemiJuggalo:

Maybe it's just me, but the original Japanese score for DBZ movie 5 sounds a lot like music you'd hear in the original Dragon Ball series. All I know is that it sounds quite unique from the other movies. The music that plays when Piccolo is fighting Cooler's Armored Squadron sounds like something that should be playing while Goku is fighting Tao Pai Pai, or something.

Meh, just figured I'd post my thoughts on that.

That is because both Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z have the same music composers. To be honest, I like hearing Dragon Ball music playing in Dragon Ball Z, considering that they're really just the same shows. About as much of same shows as Naruto is to Naruto Shippuden. The Dragon Ball music to me screams Dragon Ball.

If there is anything I find, up to the 23rd World Torunment Arc, it followed this convection. Goku and friends go up against a main villain while searching for Dragon Balls. Afterwards, they take a break in a tournment arc. The Red Ribbon Army Arc was the only one to do something different as they go up against Fortuneteller Baba's minions first so they could use the Dragon Balls again. The world tournment would always have a boss. The first one had Jackie Chun, the second one had Tenshinhan, and the third one had Piccolo Jr.

Then starting in the Saiyan Arc, where Toei decided to change the show into Dragon Ball Z and Viz decides to do the same with their manga release. It's a little different. A lackey of the first villain for DBZ gets an arc devoted to himself, just like how Mr.3 and Ms.Goldenweek got an arc to themselves in One Piece. Then comes the Namek Saga where they go against the first main villain. Once the first main villain was defeated, they didn't go to a world tournment. Instead, they train for the Androids for the Android Arc. This said arc had the first villain who wasn't the leader of whatever group he is apart of. It was Android 20 (or Dr.Gero) that was the leader of that group. Now I know Android 20, Android 18, and Android 17 are actually cyborgs. Now Gohan was supposed to carry on the hero torch at this point. Then comes the Majin Buu Arc. At first, we are lead to believe that this is a world tournment arc, but Spopovich and Yamu who works for Babidi comes to ruin everything. The main villain in this arc is like the one in the Android Arc, he wasn't the leader of whatever group he was apart of. Originally in the pre Dragon Ball era, it was Bibidi. In here, it was Babidi. Now Gohan was originally meant to beat Majin Buu since he was the main hero at this point. Goku was weaker than Gohan and Gotenks at this point. Goku would lose to Super Buu and maybe even Fat Buu, as he didn't just went on out on him. Fat Buu was only weaker after Evil Buu seperates from him. Dragon Ball Z has had world tournments, but they're not real tournment arcs, because they did not last, or in the Majin Buu Arc's case, it wasn't the main issue like how the ones in Dragon Ball were. I like how all of the main villains have transformations of their own. Freeza had his first form, then his second, then third and then fourth. Cell was different as he had to absorb Android 17 and Anroid 18 to transform. We start off with Imperfect Cell , then Semi Perfect Cell (after absorbing Android 17) and Perfect Cell (after absorbing Android 18). Majin Buu, I don't know how to describe it. First we have Fat Buu (who is stronger than you think), then Evil Buu emerges from Fat Buu weakening him, and then he eats Fat Buu and becomes Super Buu who is much stronger, then we get Gotenks Buu (after absorbing Gotenks and Piccolo), and get a little of Piccolo Buu (after Gotenk's fusion runs out) who is probally stronger than his Super Buu form but not as strong as his Gotenk's Buu form, then we get Gohan Buu (after absorbing Gohan who at this point was stronger than all of the Z fighters), and finally we get Kid Buu (after Goku and Vegeta remove Piccolo, Gohan, Trunks and Goten out of his) who is the most dangerous, but no stronger than Super Buu despite what the dub makes it seem. Kid Buu may have been beating on Fat Buu, but I doubt he could win against him if Fat Buu had the strength he had before having Evil Buu removed from him.

@MetaMario:

I'm glad he/she knows of all the technical mistakes and follies of the dub….

....but the user name reeks of irony. 0_o

I named that when FUNimation saved One Piece. FUNimation is a good dubbing company, but comes a Dragon Ball series that isn't the original nor Kai and they mess up. I still enjoy the dubs, but the dialogue makes me cringe though. It makes me cringe watching Vegeta's death where he saids Freeza would threaten to kill his father when he was a child if he didn't obey his orders, when in the original he said the Saiyans would work for him to destroy other planets only for him to kill them just because he is afraid that a Super Saiyan would come amongst them. Another thing I would like to point out, as much as I love a more manly sounding Bardock, it makes me cringe to listen to him say "Kakarot, thank you for showing me the errors of my ways, I am now a better person thanks to you. I wish I spent more time with you!" when this is nothing like his character. In the original, he didn't care about Goku (due to him having a low power level) until he had a vision of him what appears to be him fighting Freeza in his first form, believing he'll be the one to beat him. What he actually said in the original was "Kakarot, avenge us Saiyans, beat Freeza. Beat Freeza for us Saiyans!:

I nned to make a website that clear up the confusion of the dubs. Some people think DBZ in English is 276 episodes. That was the case before FUNimation decided to redub the first 67 episodes, but once they did, those dubs of the first 53 (actually 67 in the Japanese) with Ocean Studios voice acting became seperate with FUNimation's inhouse dub of episodes 68-291. Some people think the remastered sets are different from those epsiodes shown on Cartoon Network. That maybe the case for the first 67 episodes on there (because those were the redubs). Some people who are in this Ocean vs FUNimation wars really need help with their info. Someone uploaded the first episode of the 1995 dub of Dragon Ball and called it FUNimation/Ocean dub on youtube. Some fanbrat said the user needs to do their homework because Ocean/Harmony Gold/Madman Entertainment (I am not kidding) did this and not FUNimation. Some people actually think that the whole Dragon Ball Z's first dub of the first two seasons is alot like when 4kids dubbed the first two seasons of One Piece. They think Saban or Ocean was screwing up DBZ, then they dropped it and FUNimation "saved" it. Though I do see some similarities between the two situations, they are mostly different.

Couldn't Artificial Human and Andriod be the samething? An Artificial Human would mean a fake human, and an Android would be a robot that is designed to look like a human. Androids are Artificial Humans because they are not real humans. Now I don't expect this to cover up the whole FUNimation missing the fact that No.17 and No.18 were once human like No.20.

@Adamant:

. Probably the most recognizable piece of music in the entire series.

"Gives unlimited supplies of cookies to Adamant"

@Adamant:

Sorry, mixed up my flashbacks. Forgot the episode had two of them.

YES YES YES!! THAT IS THE ONE!! YES YES YES!!

By the way, first one to find the theme that played when Tenshinhan and Chaozu got brought back to life after Freeza's defeat gets an unlimited supplies of cookies. It has that whistling noise to it.