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Posts made by Fortysix2
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RE: Second Round Discussion Thread
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RE: Chapter 590: Little Bro
Next chap could be on Straw Hat crew status.
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RE: Coby vs. Kung-Fu Dugongs
I see so many people supporting Dugongs here. Still how did coby manage that many votes?
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RE: Carue vs. Dorry & Broggy
Carue's comedy sense is mind-fuck. Dorry&Broggy…..Meh!!
This shows that Carue brain >>>>> Giant's brain.
Go Caruee!!
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RE: Carue vs. Dorry & Broggy
Tough one!! I will wait for sometime before voting.
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RE: Chapter 588 "Sabo's Ocean" Discussion
@AdmiralYonkouMt.Bandit:
This is what you call circular reasoning. Deeply flawed as well.
Bullshit. Lets just keep my argument aside for a while.
Do you even know the definition of circular reasoning?
It means that while trying to prove a point, I use that point again in a different wording and call it "Hence, proved."
1. First off, you took just a point from the whole paragraph. So you stopped the logic in between, took an illogical statement and making a point out of that.
2. And if I restate the first sentence as "I think Sabo is alive…... Luffy is under the impression that Sabo is dead" your trying to be bad-ass comes to an end.
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RE: Chapter 588 "Sabo's Ocean" Discussion
28 is the release date(monday 28)
30 is the issue
and there is no one piece
http://www.shonenjump.com/e/weeklyshonenjump/next.htmlin case the list on weekly jump website misses onepiece on purpose,i would like to have confirmation(the thing looks recent)
Yeah man, similar issue raked up 2-3 weeks back when everyone got tensed. Eventually OP came out that week. I am sure its the same case even now.
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RE: Chapter 588 "Sabo's Ocean" Discussion
The main reason why I think Sabo is alive is the fact that Luffy currently thinks that Sabo is dead. And he lost Ace a few chaps back. So there is literally no driving force for him to become a pirate king. It would be a great feeling if he gets to meet Sabo and Sabo inturn gives him some words of encouragement and gets luffy back to normal.
I cannot imagine how luffy can get back to normal in any other way.
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RE: Chapter 588 "Sabo's Ocean" Discussion
@Kairouseki:
Donnie Darko is an awesome movie. Yes indeedy.
I watched it thrice back to back to understand what the fuck was going on in the movie. I never expected that a movie will be made on such a complex concept. Worth it anyways. All the so called sci-fi movies that have been releasing lately like transformers-2, 2012 etc should take a lesson or two from this movie as to how a sci-fi can be made with minimal "special effects."
Your display pic is from another great movie. One of my all time favourites.
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RE: Chapter 588 "Sabo's Ocean" Discussion
@Mugiwara. His name is cactus.
The schroedinger cat…
Can someone explain this one to me? I'm un-edumacated.
But be carefull, if your comment is too snarky, I may get butthurt.The schroedinger cat… What was it? Only if you try to look into the black box the cat will be or the state will change into dead or alive?
Now that i was among the supah 32 (hello did you see? 32 ... 23... AHHH Hagbard celine) to vote for that option i see myself forced to tell ya all my super theory about our beloved sabo.
To be honest it's fairly easy. Sabo is in a mixed state of "dead and alive". Only if Oda decides to use a character and try to find and open the blackbox the mixed state will change.
Now a few people has gathered to defend that state. Why would an author try to change that highly unusual state?
The club of the one piece schroedinger characters is now open. Sabo... Bon chan. Oda don't disappoint.Schrodinger cat is basically if you have a cat inside a closed box and a vessel filled with poison and that the poison starts leaking only if the cat removes the lid of the vessel, for someone inside the box there is one possibility i.e the cat is either dead or alive because he gets to see what is happening to the cat with his own eyes.
But for someone outside the box the cat is both dead and alive. This is because you don't really have a way to find out if the cat is dead or alive because you don't know what is happening inside. So the only option left for you is to assume to that the cat is both dead and alive.
But that was just layman explanation. The theory which this experiment leads to is that there could be a possibility of multiple universes.
In the case of the cat,
1. The first universe has the cat alive and well.
2. But the second universe has the cat dead because it opened the lid.So this way in our lives, depending on the options we have at a certain point various universes are created.
In layman terminology this means that there are multiple people like us in other universes will other Space-Time coordinates who cannot really interact with us.
You could watch this movie called "Donnie Darko" to get a clear understanding of what I am trying to say.
Cheers
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RE: Inazuma vs. Zoro
Zoro is boring? Bullshit!!
His comedy is unique compared to the other SH crew and it kicks ass.
Eg: Zoro-Sanji rivalry, Zoro's pathetic sense of direction, Zoro-Carue part where he jumps into the water and a lot more.
Infact leave comedy. He is the only one in the crew who can give equal fight to luffy in terms of strength and ability both. He can fight equally with luffy without his sword. Go watch Arabasta if you dont know this fact.
In terms of character and determination, he is just mind-fuck. Look at his training. How can you guys forget Ashura? And his fights, Zoro has probably the most stylish way of fighting in OP. And the way he shows his character when Usopp wants to come back into the crew, take a bow zoro.
Think twice before you say Zoro is boring!
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RE: Chapter 587 "I will not run!" Discussion
For the millionth time, the word "incident" in that "Sabo incident" statement was a choice made by the translator, since he didn't know if Sabo was a thing, a place, an event, a person, or anything else, he used this "incident" word there to make Sabo something generic.
In fact other translators (Molokidan, Cnet) even translated it as "Sabo thing", and Cnet even stated that it was completely vague:
"Ace: …Yeah... you know... if it weren't for the Sabo thing... and having a little brother like you to look out for... // ...I would never have... even... wanted to live...
[TN: I hate you, Oda. Okay, DISCLAIMER: I have no idea what "sabo no ken" refers to. "~no ken" is pretty much the vaguest structure ever, and I don't know whether "sabo" is a person's name, the name of a thing, or anything else that it could feasibly refer to (edict suggests that the word can be an abbreviation of "sabotage", or a type of shoes, and to be honest, I can't rule either of those out either).]"Whether Sabo is a thing or an incident or a person, that Sabo did encourage him to live longer. Once again we are left with the same options as above.
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RE: Chapter 587 "I will not run!" Discussion
Oda gave an open ending previous chapter that is why we are having a tough time guessing what would happen. But we must keep in mind what Ace said. If the translators are not wrong he says, "If it weren't for the Sabo incident I wouldn't have lived." It clearly says that the sabo incident propelled him to live. And one more point is Luffy said that Ace is his only brother. So either Sabo is dead/they dont consider Sabo as their brother. And the ending of the last chapter shows Sabo's pirate flag. Ace is clearly shown to have that tattoo.
All these points show that either Sabo is really dead or he isn't but was shown as dead because of which Ace/Luffy think that he is dead or he has turned evil.
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RE: Chapter 587 "I will not run!" Discussion
Yeah, I agree.
Why wouldn't Sabo search for Luffy and Ace after escaping? It's not like Luffy and Ace lived in some mysterious place Sabo never saw in his life. Sabo knew Dadan, Makino, Woop Slap, Garp… he could find Luffy and Ace quite easily if he so wished.
All this is true if Sabo isn't evil in current time.
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RE: Chapter 587 "I will not run!" Discussion
I really dont understand why Oda is trying to create a particular impression of Ace on us by attaching random characteristics like "I do not run" bullshit ala Whitebeard's "I do not dodge." Whitebeard was an awesome character and he lived like a king throughout. So it did make sense that he died as a king and for that he needed the build-up of "I do not dodge" and that suited his character really well because indeed WB did not dodge so many attacks by akainu and kizaru in the preceding chapters. Even if he had not showed WB 'not dodging' previously, it does not really matter because we know very well that WB is so powerful that he can take on 2 admirals at a time. So literally anything on the likes of dodge, run will do for him because we know that he is capable and he is "legendary".
On the other hand, Ace isn't like that. He lost to BB (though not shown explicilty), was not shown any signs of haki and was directly abused by akainu that his DF is inferior compared to his. So obviously once he died, it is natural for everyone to think that he died not just because he was trying to protect luffy but many other factors like no haki, inferior DF etc (remember haki wasn't shown for ace that time and the next chap akainu fights vista, marco and says "Oh Haki, what a pain"). So oda clearly showed that Ace isn't powerful. Done and dusted! Lets leave him at that. He does not need a WB kind of farewell because he is not even close to being legendary.
But then why does he have to name a chapter on that crap and project him as if he is a kick-ass character and he died in the hands of Akainu EXCLUSIVELY because he was trying to protect luffy.
I love everything about the flashback except for Ace. He is getting irritating day by day! Let him rest in peace Oda. Leave him please!
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RE: Chapter 587 "I will not run!" Discussion
I'm thinking the Reunion has already happened and we will see it in the flashback..
Theory: Dragon's ship will come in at the last moment and kill the Celestial Dragons to save Sabo, forever making Sabo in-debt to him and he becomes a Revolutionary. And in the following chaos, Luffy and Ace "see" Sabo dying along with the Nobles….
Yeah the previous chapter's final sentence "Dragon, the preparations are ready baby" hints at something major being done by dragon but killing tenryobitu right in front of so many people is not Dragon's style I feel.
Moreover if he had killed Tenryo 10 yrs back, he would have become most wanted by the time "Thalazza Lucas" mentioned his name during King's gathering.
And the Goa King's face mystery is killing me!!
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RE: Chapter 587 "I will not run!" Discussion
I dont think Sabo will die in the flashback after Oda let him say words like "What is freedom? Where can I find it?"
Another reason why Sabo cannot die is because Sabo-Dragon re-union has to take place sometime before he dies because Dragon says "I wont forget your words."
And moreover he is not in the way of Tenryobitu. People are just staring at clear/plain sea.
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RE: Chapter 586 "A Fetid Town" Discussion
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece/99305628/12 this page kinda foretold dragons coming
Dragon is KamiKaze
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RE: Chapter 586 "A Fetid Town" Discussion
The last dialogue "Dragon, preparations have been made" is enough for the chapter to be considered epic!
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RE: Chapter 585 "Brothers' Cup" Discussion
Sabo is
1. dead
2. okama
3. turned evilany other possibilities?
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RE: Chapter 585 "Brothers' Cup" Discussion
So we dont get to know why the "Tenryo-Dudes" arrived in Goa??
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RE: Chapter 584 "The Porchemy Incident" Discussion
oh, so this is neither Ace's nor Luffy's flashback!
This is actually Sabo's flashback! It fits the requirement! Sabo for nakama ftw!
Yeah awesome point. This is indeed Sabo's flashback. But I have a feeling that Sabo is a negative character in the current plot. Lets see!!
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RE: Most Despicable Villain(s) so far…
Where the hell is Lucci in that list? Just listing CP9 wouldn do!
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RE: Chapter 584 "The Porchemy Incident" Discussion
I have to disagree with this a bit.
When Ace states what he says about the "Sabo" incident, I don't think it necessarily means Sabo is dead or alive.
Personally, I think Ace is referring to this. That link shows the exact moment Ace started to feel a kinship with Luffy, particular the two-leftmost panels at the bottom.
Your point does make sense. But then why does have to say 'sabo thing' AND 'a brother like you…'
I mean why does he have to reiterate the point about him being closer to luffy?
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RE: Chapter 584 "The Porchemy Incident" Discussion
In the chapter when Ace dies, he says that if it weren't for the sabo thing and a brother like you and so on.
This proves the point that the SABO incident motivated him more to live. This leads us to just two different paths.
1. Sabo is dead and before dying made Ace promise to him that he will continue living and become a pirate.
2. Sabo is not dead.
Now the second point gets interesting. If he is not dead, why is it that Luffy does not share the same kind of relationship he has with Ace? Well, I am not saying he should consider Sabo as a brother but atleast a good mentor and remember him well. It is possible if Luffy-Sabo have not lived together for long. Everything gels well if Sabo somehow gets to leave Luffy-Ace post the incident.
Now how Sabo is affected by the whole turn of events is tough to predict because it seems like Tenryuu seem to be here on an important issue and I doubt if that is the 'infamy of Sabo and Ace'.
But it amazes me how Oda properly connects flashback to the current events. He is God!
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RE: Chapter 584 "The Porchemy Incident" Discussion
It has been mentioned and I agree with those that opine that Ace's tatoo artist just couldn't spell.
@Cyan:
The tattoo artist was dyslexic.
Oh! Was that mentioned somewhere before?
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RE: Chapter 584 "The Porchemy Incident" Discussion
I dont know if this has been pointed out before but anyways!
"Does anyone feel that the S on ASCE has got something to do with Sabo?"
I mean on the likes of Sabo is no-more a friend of Ace?
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RE: Chapter 584 "The Porchemy Incident" Discussion
I dont know if I am right but what I sense from this chapter is that both "DoFlamingo" and "BlueJam" are of the same level and of the same post working directly under the orders of World Govt-Tenrobittyu".
Cant wait for the name of this post to be revealed!!!
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RE: Chapter 581: "The Future is Creeping Up" Discussion
I have a feeling that Oda is hinting at another post ala Shichibukai who are much superior compared to Shichibukai and work under direct orders from World Govt. And also the post Shichibukai might not carry any meaning from now on.
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RE: The Crew's Bounty
He wont have a bounty from now on. He will be in the most wanted list.
There is no point in having a high bounty because very high bounty=> Powerful+dangerous=>not many people can catch him=> people who can catch him are either shichibukai level (or) other most wanted pirates (or) admirals.
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RE: Chapter 577 "The Incident Continues to Escalate"
so from this chapter blackbeard is kinda like cell?
he absorbs and learns ablilties.
[qimg]http://dragonballzcellgames.tripod.com/cell/dbz5.jpg[/qimg]
thats my opinion of course…
CELL fucking kicks ass. Cell saga was the best in DBZ. Lots of story, mystery, action. Perfect example of how a saga should be. And one of the greatest things about that saga is that the main character doesn't get to fight the final match. I am sure Oda was highly inspired by this saga.
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RE: Chapter 576 "The Great Pirate Edward Newgate" Discussion
Someone earlier posted something regarding BB's doing till now hasn't shaked the world much! He might be right because franky-house translations seem to support that point!
Have a look at this discussion between Sengoku-BB:
http://haven-reader.net/index.php?mode=view&series=One+Piece&chapter=Chapter+576&page=4&next=true
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RE: The Future of the Whitebeard pirates
Jimbei joins the crew and Marco becomes the captain!
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RE: Chapter 576 "The Great Pirate Edward Newgate" Discussion
I am guessing that this arc will end with the coming chapter! And then a time skip of a month probably with all the straw-hats together!
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RE: Chapter 576 "The Great Pirate Edward Newgate" Discussion
Akainu seriously rocks! He is evil personified and that makes him too good a character…..Thanks to characters like these the manga has become very interesting! If there are too many powerful good characters it would suck :|
I hope even Kaidou is similar to Akainu or maybe more badass compared to him!
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RE: Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
If Level 6 prisoners have committed crimes so bad that their names had to be erased from the history, why didn't govt just kill them in secret? Is it because govt. is incapable of killing them or was govt. planning to use them for tasks which can only be completed by them?
Please direct me to the respective link if anyone has asked this question before!
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RE: Chapter 576 "The Great Pirate Edward Newgate" Discussion
Well even if WB is the most epic character so far.
I'm suprised that Oda made his death bigger and more important than Ace's
Dude Ace isn't a major character. He was a side character and he was bound to be one in the future. Oda just made us believe that he is too great a character.
I am infact relieved that WBs death has overshawdowed Ace's. Otherwise the desired punch required for the "Change in Era" would have been missing.
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RE: Chapter 575 "Anger without words" Discussion
Whoa what a perfect timing for that to happen! Phew!
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RE: Chapter 575 "Anger without words" Discussion
so her past and everything she went through has nothing to do with her ambition?
Then a normal haki would do! Why go to the extremes and have haoushoku? Its a disgrace to the name 'Haoshoku' that such a pathetic character like Hancock has it!
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RE: Favorite Arc/Saga
What? I was expecting CP9 to be leading the poll by miles. It was almost perfect with great story, comedy, mystery and action. The current arc does not even come close to CP9 in terms of story and mystery and action as well!! Buggy is the only saving grace :D
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RE: Chapter 575 "Anger without words" Discussion
I dont see any reason why Hancock has Haoshouki? Is it because someone in the past cursed her for being ugly and from then on she made it her "ambition" to look beautiful no matter what?? If she has haoshouki just because she is "kuja-empress" that would be lame as hell!
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RE: Chapter 574 "The Death of Portgas D. Ace" Discussion
So Spoilers around 5-6am GMT today?
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RE: Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread
Who the hell is this character with Cobra? It cannot be Vivi because vivi is just 16-17 yrs old. So she wasnt born at that time!
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RE: Chapter 574 "The Death of Portgas D. Ace" Discussion
well, it would mean that both father and son had a gift for starting new age with their deaths…
or better, WB lost bet against shanks, luffy is still alive, and ace RIP...
As I mentioned, people of other era should give rise to new era and not brats like Ace. He is just 20 yrs old!
I've noticed your post, I just have not taken the time to answer.
I would say you theory is 90% credible until B2. Kuma acting like this to protect the crew from going there is ok.
But why would Rayleigh risk his life on trying to save someone related to his former captain who died 20 years ago, while being retired from piracy since this time, and while each crew member Kuma sent all-around-the-world-in-order-to-save-them has rayleigh's vivre card.
Unless he wants both to lead the mugiwara to marineford and to give the chance to the marine to take down 2,5 legends there, I don't think he's going to appear, though it would be epic.
Even though his captain died 22 yrs ago, Rayleigh has the same respect for him now as he had back then. And Rayleigh-Roger relation can be considered similar to Zoro-Luffy and we know how great their friendship is.
So my point is even though he does not have as much resolve as WB to save Ace, he would still feel for him because when Rayleigh fights Kizaru he says, "What right do you have to pluck budding talent?" which obviously means that likes this new era and would do his part to save it. He hardly knew mugiwara crew yet he put his life on to saving them.
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RE: Chapter 574 "The Death of Portgas D. Ace" Discussion
This post went completely unnoticed I guess. Reposting it because I need your inputs regarding this issue.
Although I am not at all a fan of Ace from the beginning (I just like his DF, its fucking awesome) I felt bad for him when I read the latest chapter because his life was nothing but a tragedy.
So I got kind of nostalgic and started going through chapters from Shaboady Archipelago and I have a slight feeling that Portgas D.Ace could be alive. But I am not really sure about this, next chapter will definitely clarify if Ace is dead for sure or not. But some facts kind of hinted to the fact that Ace might not have died afterall.
Deductions:
1. Why was Kuma in Shaboady during that Tenrobityu incident when there were no orders from Govt.?
Ans: For the first time, it was publicly announced that Ace is going to be executed. Disco-Doflamingo, on the same day as announcement converse over phone and Doflamingo tells him that he has been called to a Shichibukai assembly related to Ace's execution.
So it is highly probable that even kuma came to know about it the same day.
So Kuma realises that if Luffy comes to know about this, he will definitely go to Marineford and will get killed for sure. So he goes to Shaboady to send the mugiwara crew to far off islands.
2. What did he tell Rayleigh?
Ans: That Ace is going to be executed in 10 days and that "Ace-Luffy" are brothers. So I need to send him very far to keep him safe. Rayleigh reacts saying, "Should I believe that nonsense?" because it was posted in papers the same day and it is highly likely that he does not know of it.
3. Why should Rayleigh come and save Ace?
Ans: If Rayleigh knew that Ace was Roger's son from before, Kuma's conversation let him know that he was going to be executed. So he would come to save Ace by default and he had like "7 idle days" after coating the ship to go to marineford.
And if he didn't know, doesn't really matter because Ace's execution has become a famous issue in Shaboady. So he would have heard it from some-one or watched it live himself. Its just that he would have less time for preparation now, but he would put his life on to saving Ace.
So I have a strong feeling that Rayleigh is going to turn-up in Marineford with coated-sunny and save Ace the next chapter. Now don't ask me from where he is going to get expert doctors and stuff but anything is possible in OP world. Ace might become a cyborg…Who knows??
Remember one thing. In one of the chapters, Garp says that it is too tough for Marines to take on "Two-Legends" at the same time. So I guess Rayleigh's entrance is going to turn tables of this war. It is also apt because "Legends" of previous era should lay a path for the "New Era."
Also, Rayleigh is going to play very minor role in the future and his major role has to be this saga because the new-era is starting. And if Rayleigh did not turn up because he did not know that Ace is Roger's son, he will eventually come to know of that fact sometime soon. What kind of a fucked up legend is he who could not save his Sencho's son.
If both WB and Ace die, Ace's death basically overshadows WB's death and it would seem as if ace laid path to new era. He bloody belongs to this era. Then how the hell can he lay path for a new era??