@danie said in Episode 4 (The Pirates Are Coming) - Discussion:
@DollarScholar He acknowledges he's a liar? A nod to pinocchio or simply to manga Usopp?
The nose on the flag is kinda tiny though, nothing like manga usopp.
@danie said in Episode 4 (The Pirates Are Coming) - Discussion:
@DollarScholar He acknowledges he's a liar? A nod to pinocchio or simply to manga Usopp?
The nose on the flag is kinda tiny though, nothing like manga usopp.
@DollarScholar said in Episode 4 (The Pirates Are Coming) - Discussion:
The weirdest moment in the entire series for me was the scene with Usopp presenting his Jolly Roger, and it had a nose on it. Like why add that detail when there isnt anything special about Usopps nose in this version? i mean craniums dont have noses, so what was up?
Any takes on this? it still confuses me lol
I think the Mariejois warlord meeting would be a great final scene for S2, introducing Doflamingo and Kuma and teasing Blackbeard with Lafittes arrival.
Im now on my second watch through. All the closeup shots on the chararacters are really starting to annoy. Besides that, almost everything is better on the second viewing, Noticing alot of funny details like Coby cleaning Alvidas mace with a toothbrush lol.
Another detail i noticed: who was the second candle that Zoro lit for? was it for Mr 7 lol?
Having this Sanji with a british accent call out his attacks with french names felt weird and out of place to me. Unless you have read the manga that part would probably really confuse you.
I think the Nami flashback was the weakest out of all of them. It just felt like a cheesy commercial
@black-leg-jex said in Episode 3 (Tell No Tales) - Discussion:
Also Buggy is the type of pirate to end up in this situation. Just given current manga plotpoints, this is very much in line.
Honestly to me the whole thing with keeping Buggys head in a bag almost felt more like they drew from Laws DF powers and the whole Ceasars heart thing. The showrunner Matt Owens has said that Law is his favorite character so it adds up.
@Nectar said in Episode 4 (The Pirates Are Coming) - Discussion:
I loved this episode. They went for a more suspenseful tone and I here for it. Kuro stole the episode for me. The actor did a great job conveying his menace. Reading some of the comments, I can understand folks not liking Usopp not getting a moment. But, in my mind he did. He didn't run away and did everything in his power to help Kaya.
his "i wont run away" moment had very little impact because the show had toned down the cowardly side of Usopps character and we had never really seen him run away that much at that point.
the actors who played Sham and Buchi stole the show for me. They were simply hilarious lol
The weirdest moment in the entire series for me was the scene with Usopp presenting his Jolly Roger, and it had a nose on it. Like why add that detail when there isnt anything special about Usopps nose in this version? i mean craniums dont have noses, so what was up?
@Kaiolino said in Episode 8 (Worst in the East) - Discussion:
The alabasta 1v1s will be 10 minutes total.
Yeah i noticed how condensed fighting scenes became in the live action.
@All-Fiction said in Episode 6 (The Chef and the Chore Boy) - Discussion:
Baratie arc really makes up for Syrup Village arc. I have to say Sanji joining the crew doesn’t have as much weight as I would have preferred. We don’t really spend much time with him since the episode is more focused on Zoro and Arlong.
He is even more overshadowed in the Manga tbh with the whole Luffy vs Krieg fight going on
@black-leg-jex said in Episode 8 (Worst in the East) - Discussion:
@DollarScholar said in Episode 8 (Worst in the East) - Discussion:
5 and a half episodes for Alabasta? no way man, 3 should be more than enough.
I dunno about that. When you think about how much they need to cover in it, there is quite a lot of material (even if they trim some of the fat)
I'm thinking half an episode to meeting Mr. 2, landing and Ace.
One episode from them entering the dessert up until they meet crocodile
One episdoe to escape from crocodile up to vivi failing to stop the rebels
One episode to have all the BW fights and the second Crocodile encounter
One episode for the bomb and the final fight
One episode for everything post Crocodile's defeat to the end of the arc.Maybe you could combine some of these but this seems like the best amount to get everything.
As for later seasons, I think season 3 and 4 should just cover their sagas. Maybe you could move the Davy Back Fight to season 3 and end with the Aokiji battle but that's an odd finale. You could easily combine post-Enies Lobby up until the end of Saboady as one season though. Amazon Lilly and Impel down and Marineford could also be one combined season if your willing to put post-Marineford in a season with Fishman Island, as opposed to ending the saeson at the timeskip.
You are right i had totally forgotten that Alabasta stretches over 8 entire volumes lol. Its been 20 years since i last read it.
As for Skypeia i think you could easily condense it into 4 episodes if you trim the flashbacks a bit. Dragging it on for an entire season would likely make alot of viewers lose interest.
@Kitsune-Inferno said in Episode 1 (Romance Dawn) - Discussion:
"Nobody dies in One Piece"
Live Action: "I guess we'll have to do something about that."
Pell is 100% going to die in this version.
@black-leg-jex said in Episode 8 (Worst in the East) - Discussion:
And that's a wrap. Episode 8 was a pretty good finale. It made use of all the characters and the fight between The Straw Hats and the Arlong Pirates was well choreographed and executed. I do wish Usopp had his moment of panic after he tries to play dead but oh well. I'm glad we also got to see all the other characters throughout the series react to the bounty, including Shanks and Mihawk. That was the one I really wanted.
As for the conclusion to all the Garp stuff, the final confrontation felt a lot like bits of their Water 7 interaction and then the fight they have at Marineford. Having it this early surely is something but I think it's ok (especially as the chances of the series making it to Marineford is quite slim). Garp giving up, turning around and then questioning why everyone else was standing around and not arresting Arlong was probably his most in-character moment though haha.
I think the place the Garp sub-plot pays off best though is with Coby. Coby's journey and development throughout this arc was pretty great (same for Helmeppo) and seeing Coby and Luffy interact at the end was awesome. Given Coby is going to vanish for about three seasons, it's nice that we got all of this now rather than it happening off-screen and then revealed after the fact.
Buggy continued to be great, chosing to run as soon as he got what he wanted was very in-character. And the tease of him meeting Alvida at the end was great. This along with the Smoker tease at the end very much confirms that Loguetown is going to be the start of the next season (if there was any doubt). And I do think One Piece will get at least Season 2. Netflix does have a tendency to cancel shows but with the backing and critical success this one has had, I think at least a second season will happen. Hopefully it will be 10 episodes long instead of 8, as I think they might be able to squeeze Loguetown and Baroque Works into that timeframe (Loguetown = 1, Laboon and Whiskey Peak = 1, Little Garden = 1, Drum Island = 1 and a half, Alabasta = 5 and a half).
Overall I really enjoyed this series. The beginning was definitely the strongest part of it (especially the Buggy episode) and the final episode was also great. It just goes a bit off-course in the middle, but not enough that it's actually bad.
5 and a half episodes for Alabasta? no way man, 3 should be more than enough.
I have been thinking about how eventual seasons 3-4 might be paced, and am i crazy for thinking you dont need an entire season for Skypeia?` you could probably get from Jaya to the climax of Skypeia in under 5 episodes. Same thing with latter arcs like thriller bark. You could easily do both Thriller bark and amazon lily and then some in an 8 episode season.
We could easily get to Marineford in 4 seasons.
I laughed at loud at the Sanji flashback when pirate Zeff boarded their ship and went straight to their kitchen to season their cooking. It had a genuine Monty Python-feel.
Wow didnt expect to see Smoker at the end!
Food-obsessed protagonists has always been something of a trope in shonen manga and one piece has never been an exception. But since pretty much The New World, i feel like food and hunger has become an almost dominant theme in the series.
Whole cake Island in itself, Big Mums crazy gluttony and cravings-induced trance states are pretty obvious, Wano had that whole starvation theme, Udon had the "work to earn your food" plot.
Does anyone know if Oda has been trying to quit smoking or something and this is why he has been subconsciously craving for food and sweets? Or are they simply not feeding him?
Revolutionary army is so damn cool, easily my favorite group of characters in the manga. Karasu, Lindbergh, Koala, Dragon, IVANKOV, Kuma... love that Oda is going for a steampunk vibe with alot of the characters too.
Coby should have eaten a DF around timeskip. I will die on this hill.
@Robby said in Nobody in One Piece finds/eats a devil fruit:
That would be terrible. As is Sanji getting his dumb genetic power up super healing factor and invisibility are really bad.
I agree about the genetic stuff and i think a devil fruit would have been a simpler and more elegant solution. Could you elaborate why you think its a terrible idea?
Title might sound strange considering there are hundreds of fruit users in OP, but let me clarify what i mean: Characters in One Piece as a rule never gain devil fruit powers AFTER they have been introduced in the story. We only ever see characters eat DFs in Flashbacks. The exceptions that i can think of are Luffy (obviously), Alvida, Kaku, Kalifa, Sabo and some of the BB pirates (who are obviously using some special method to aquire them so its kind of different).
Characters who lack DFs when they are first introduced to us in the present time are extremely unlikely to ever gain one.
Has this question ever been adressed by Oda? It seems kind of strange to not use this tool more often for powerups to keep the power scaling even and as a convenient tool for quick character "development". Who wouldnt like to see Sanji or Usopp eat a devil fruit?
Devil fruits are supposed to be the most common in the grand line and new world, and considering everything the Strawhats have encountered through their journeys its kinda strange that they never found a fresh devil fruit. I personally think it would have been awesome to see.
With the S-Snake action over the past few chapters and Blackbeard going after Hancock for her DF, it seems Oda is really trying to push the Mero fruit as one of the strongest in the verse
@Deicide said in Official Egghead Thread:
@DollarScholar I have a feeling this is how the arc will end, be it because Punk Records went rogue or because the traitor Punk takes control over it.
Or because the Punks cant take it with them on their journey with Luffy and they would rather destroy it than see it fall into the hands of the WG.
@Deicide said in Official Egghead Thread:
@DollarScholar I have a feeling the Rogue Vegapunk essentially represents this conflict just as well, except it has a face and personality.
Could be, but i think having to face off against punk records would potentially be more impactful if it leads to Vegapunk having to literally destroy or disable it. That would be a true sacrifice. PR being disabled could also potentially lead to the punks gaining "independance" as they are cut off from their connection which Stella, which would be an interesting development
Rogue Punk Records would be a very interesting villain cause it would not just be the standard sci fi AI trope, it would also be a literal manifestation of Vegapunks inner conflict which is basically a struggle over goals vs morality, his goal was always knowledge and furthering science and he was willing to aid evil organizations like the WG in order to further that goal. Now he will have to face against that part of himself, literally embodied by his own big brain.
@Captain-M said in Chapter 1071: The Hero Deploys:
@DollarScholar My pet theory is that all the satellite imagery is leading to Punk Records being blasted off into space to become a literal satellite, safely out of the World Government's reach and arguably better positioned for the internet-like remote connection on a global scale.
Of course, there's not really any actual evidence to go on yet, I fully expect to dump the theory when the arc starts pulling toward what Oda actually has planned. But I do think whatever contingency Vegapunk has planned will play a big part in the Egghead finale, and will probably give the Vegaclones their role in the story going forward.
I like this idea alot, great way for Oda to open up the whole space chapter of the One piece world too
@Shadowgreed im sure there are many ways to move it, im just wondering if Oda will even adress it or just leave it
@Shadowgreed What are you talking about?
@Zhenja said in Chapter 1071: The Hero Deploys:
@DollarScholar said in Chapter 1071: The Hero Deploys:
How is Vegapunk gonna escape with the Strawhats when his giant brain is literally stuck on Egghead? Has this been brought up earlier?
He has a wireless connection to the server, just like the Satellites. Seems like that connection has no range limits.
...or the brain will just float after him... all the time...
Yeaaah, im not talking about the range issue im kinda more worried about the WG literally blowing up his brain. Seems like you cant really escape if you also leave such a crucial part of yourself behind?
How is Vegapunk gonna escape with the Strawhats when his giant brain is literally stuck on Egghead? Has this been brought up earlier? there is a possibility of a plothole here lol. At this point i wouldnt put it past Oda to just rush through the story and overlook such blatant issues
shouldnt the spoilers be out by now?
when will spoilers be out? am i missing something?
I feel it IS interesting, but very limited in what we have seen or confirmed as awakened df's.
I mean right now we have Doffy and a brief insight into Luffy. It's no surprise that it feels a little lackluster.
Plus I get the feeling we have more awakened Df users than we realise. After all how can some of the world's strongest and most capable fighters not have reached this point? I expect the final war will be filled with these abilities.
Dont forget Law and Kid ;)
Im thinking about how Luffys awakening could be utilized. If hes capable of making other charactes into Rubber as he did with Kaido, that could theoretically mean that other Strawhats could start to utilize rubber abilities. Gomu Gomu no Giant Diable Jambe anyone?
Hawkings is an obvious candidate
I'd think that Enel's Goro Goro no Mi could be one, because of Raijin.
Raijin form is more likely to be a case of Logia awakening imo
Im going to be honest, altough the concept of DF abilities being able to awaken an extra powerup so to speak is really cool, The way Oda has utilized it is frankly kinda uninteresting. Half of the ones we have seen dont even add any logical benefits.
Take Doflamingo: Doffy can already conjure strings out of thin air at will. How is being able to turn existing things into string really that big of a deal? It just doesnt seem like it adds anythings, its not like he was running out of strings before.
I personally hope Oda doesnt turn Chopper into a mythical zoan user, at least not explicitly. That would make 3 mythical zoan strawhats (if Yamato joins) which is 3/5 of DF users in the crew lol.
Plus Chopper has too many transformations already so there really isnt a need for some extra mythical awakening form or anything.
Honestly, I'd bet on that to give an "oomph" to Chopper's abilities.
Unfortunately, Chopper's six forms post-TS are rather bland, and they were mostly ignored for the last 400 chapters when they still mattered in combat. Even the Rumble Ball doesn't look exciting anymore since Monster Point isn't as awesome after Chopper got it under control, since the mode itself is too undercooked as a design. And what was Chopper's last upgrade in Wano? Now he can stay on Monster Point for more time… eeh, not much creativity there.
The best way to salvage Chopper as a fighter (if Oda ever intends to do that) is to make his Zoan model something special. What it could be I don't know.
There is obviously something up with Choppers DF. Hes the only "regular" Zoan that we know of that cannot make a full on transformation into his supposed Zoan Animal. Every Zoan user has a hybrid form and a complete animal form, yet Choppers supposed "human form" looks like a yeti, not a human. So my bet is he actually ate some sort of yeti zoan
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I imagine he's just a regular zoan. Like the Pell falcon to Marco's phoenix.
The thing is Pell can turn into an actual, plain Falcon. Chopper cannot turn into an actual complete human
Zunesha has the special DF. What the Gorosei mean by "awakened" is that Zunesha is now "waking up" after spending centuries walking around like a zombie island and is now involving himself in world affairs. The gorosei know about Zuneshas past with Joyboy and think Zunesha is going to Wano to join Luffy, which confirms to them that Luffy is Joyboy. This is why they now want him dead ASAP
Could it be this awakened devil fruit has nothing to do with anything going on in Wano? Maybe Oda is setting up the next arc already
Kidd and Law taking down Big Mum would kill the manga.
Sorry, but when does next chapter come out?
Wouldnt it be cool if Big Mom uses her DF to take Kaidos soul once hes defeated and makes the ultimate homie
All of shanks crew. And of course Smoothie.
Is it me or does Wano act 1 feel incredible distant at this point? not just in terms of time past, i mean alot of the themes and characters from act 1 have literally no relation or impact on act 3
You could say this about literally anyone in the series. Especially Robin in Skypiea (terrible arc by the way).
Compare with the character introduction Bege recieved in WTI. We literally have not had a single line or panel devoted to Kidds backstory, motives and general character and now he is fighting Big Mom next to Law. This isnt how Oda usually does it.
This past week was sooooo slow, it feels like a month since 1,025 was released… (Now, two more days before spoilers arrive...)
Anyway, 1,026 is either Volume 101's last chapter (less likely) or 102's first (more likely). Will we continue on the hooftop, or change scene?
BTW, we have around 8 chapters left for this year (I'm counting 3 for October, 3 for November and 2 for December, thought the count may be off a bit since we have quite a few weeks more than that), so most of a volume. Let's see what awaits us in Volume 102.
I agree, logged on just to bitch about that. I need my fix! I have a feeling next chapter is gonna be great though. Oda is hitting a perfect pace right now with great action mixed up with important flashbacks
Yamato being Ogre adds to the chance of her joining since Oda clearly likes the idea of having a diverse set of races/semi-humans in the crew (chopper, franky, brook, jinbe)
Loved Laws curly-haired background crew-woman standing there, arms folded, totally fed up with Momo's inability to get his shit together.
Considering how long they've been part of the story it's a shame we know next to nothing about Laws crew (and Kidds for that matter), not that the series needs more side characters at the moment.
The problem with Kidd is that we know absolutley nothing about him in general and despite him playing an important role in this arc we arguably know less about him now than we did before Wano.